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down2earth
Jan 2, 2007, 02:52 PM
Any experiences with Gardasil? I've been seeing commercials online about it and am intrigued. I'm curious what people think about it since it's new.
Personally I heard that it was FANTASTIC and prevented 100% in a study. It is given to girls ages 16 - 26.
You can read the Merk report here (http://www.merck.com/newsroom/press_releases/research_and_development/2005_1006.html).
nicole_myles03
Sep 13, 2007, 06:18 PM
Any experiences with Gardasil? I've been seeing commercials online about it and am intrigued. I'm curious what people think about it since it's new.
I have had my first vaccine and I have had no side effects from it...
uhhleesha
Jan 29, 2009, 02:13 PM
50% of all women in this country have these papillomaviruses and men have them too, and the incidence of cervical cancer is totally independent of it.
World Intellectual Property Organization, which is part of the United Nations, has been looking into developing vaccines specifically to damage fertility as a method of contraception. They've been looking at tween 80 (polysorbate 80) because it causes infertility in mice. Guess what vaccine it's in now? Mice that were injected with tween80 had impaired sexual organs as well as premature development of their sexual organs.
"2.1.3. At what age do most cervical cancers occur?
Women of any age can get cervical cancer. Though, most cervical cancer occurs in women over 30 years old. But it's clear that new cases of cervical cancer increase with age. New cases of cervical cancer seem to level off at age 40 years old for white women. In African American women, there is a peak of new cases at age 40 years old and there is another peak of new cases after age 80 years old. Deaths from cervical cancer seem to level off at age 50 years old for white women. In African American women, deaths from cervical cancer steadily increase with age and peak in the 80s"
The ISIS Project (http://www.theisisproject.org/cervical_cancer/faq_answers.asp)
So we're taking the drug before we're twenty six and by then the antigens will be gone from our body when we need it most.
If you're getting your yearly papsmear you should be fine. The American Cancer Society reports that cervical cancer rates have dropped by 70% in the past 30 years because of Pap tests, leading to early detection and successful treatment. Interestingly enough, Gardasil didn't check to see if their ingredients cause cancer or if it case adverse effects to the reproductive organs.
This is just my findings from it, and I'm not in the medical field. However, I personally wouldn't get the shot if I had a second chance.
DoulaLC
Jan 29, 2009, 08:46 PM
As with most things, it often depends on what you read: Here's another take on the polysorbate 80 issue: from the Cancer Council of New South Wales
Myth busting. Can the HPV vaccine lead to infertility?
The rumour that the HPV vaccine can lead to infertility has come about as a result of findings of animal studies investigating a chemical stabiliser used in the vaccine called polysorbate 80. In these studies scientists expose the animals (usually mice or rats) to high levels of polysorbate 80 over prolonged periods (most often daily or several times a week for months) to see how their bodies react. The results of studies clearly show that the three intermittent doses of the very low level of polysorbate 80 in the HPV vaccine is way below the level or time showing toxic effect in animal studies.
Medical experts suggest that the HPV vaccine actually protects fertility indirectly by preventing the need for treatments for cervical cancer, which can lead to cervical problems that then cause infertility.
And from the ISIS project that was sited:
16. The HPV Vaccine Indications
16.1. Who is the HPV vaccine for?
Studies submitted to the FDA have found the HPV vaccine to be effective.
The vaccine has been found:
100% effective in preventing 4 types of HPV infection in girls not previously infected with HPV
Effective in young women who have already been exposed to some of the HPV types covered by the vaccine
The vaccine is recommended for girls aged 11- 12 years old and as young as 9 years old. The vaccine is also recommended for girls and women 13 years old to 26 years old who haven't previously received the vaccine. The vaccine has been widely tested in females from 9 years old to 26 years old. Only recently has testing begun in older women. In the future, the HPV vaccine may be available for older women as well.
16.2. Why is the vaccine for such young girls?
Studies have shown the vaccine is most effective in girls and women who have never been exposed to the HPV types covered by the vaccine. This means to get the full benefit of the vaccine, girls and young women should be vaccinated before they become sexually active. Girls and women who have not yet been infected with HPV will get the full benefit of the vaccine.
uhhleesha
Jan 29, 2009, 10:36 PM
And, as long as you're getting regular PAP smears, cervical cancer can be caught in its early, and easily treatable, stages.
Condoms reduce the incidence of HPV by 70 percent, and that's FAR better protection compared to Gardasil.
NEJM -- Condom Use and the Risk of Genital Human Papillomavirus Infection in Young Women (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/25/2645)
VAERS defines serious adverse events as adverse events that involve hospitalization, death, permanent disability, and life-threatening illness. There have been at least 28 spontaneous abortions, and 27 deaths. Guillain-Barré Syndrome has been reported, as well as blood clots. Gardasil also contains L-histadine, and histamines have been found to increase clot production five-fold when combined with Surfactants.
This may be biased but its worthy, in my opinion to note, that there have been cases of genital warts due to Gardasil according to this article.
http://www.naturalnews.com/024774.html
The long term effects of this drug ARE NOT KNOWN. So, why is there such a push to have girls who are probably still virgins to have this shot when no one has any idea how long it will "save them" from certain strands?
It's a mystery jab in my opinion. It's never been tested for genotoxicity (DNA damage). It hasn't even been evaluated for its potential to actually cause cancer. It's only protecting you against FOUR stands when there are HUNDREDS.
This reminds me of the time when WHO, who has been interested in population control, offered free vaccines to young women, but refused to vaccinate men. A vaccine for young women was laced with hGC, and with no scientific basis mandated that they had to have it. 28 miscarriages? Sounds more like population control and one less person than a vaccine to me. While I understand that men are unable to develop cervical cancer, but why push for this vaccine? Why are we now mandating 13 year olds with a health gamble?