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Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 05:23 AM
I just found out that my father is in America (California). I live in Europe.
20 years ago he escaped in America to avoid the process (recognition).
He never aided my mother.
Now, What can I do to force him to recognise me and to pay something? How is the law in California?
What about Inheritance? Can I except something as firstborn?
Thank you very much for your help.
Bye
smoothy
Oct 15, 2010, 05:59 AM
Children are ENTITLED to no inheritance. Doesn't matter if you are the first or last born. Parents are free to leave their wealth and property to whomever they wish. While it is usually their children, it isn't always nor is it required to be.
You can't make him recognise you . You are an adult. Anything he may have done in europe would have to have been prosecuted in your home country under its laws.
Fr_Chuck
Oct 15, 2010, 07:22 AM
You can not make him accept you as his child, and unless there was a court order for child support made when you were a child there is nothing that can be done. ( and you can not even do that, your mother would have had to do that)
And you while as his child, you may have a claim to his estate when he dies, that will depend on where he is living at the time of his death, and if he has a will. He has no obligation to leave you anything at his death. *** First born has no special rights at all in the US
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:26 AM
Hi, I don't want make him accept me, I want him to pay, because he never helped my M.
There's a court order, and there was a monthly amount, but I don't know why, he runned away before the DNA test, and his name is not on my birth certif.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:29 AM
My mother did everything possible, there was a process... but he escaped in America... and I found him using Google (funny isn't it ?)... because he has a medical studio with his name.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:36 AM
I can't make him recognise? 20 years ago his lawyer said: My client want to do the DNA test to prove that (me) is not his child... but he has to go back to his own country... The letter was written by the lawyer, my father was already gone away
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:37 AM
As you can see, English is not my mother language... sorry
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:37 AM
As you can see, English is not my mother language... sorry
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 08:45 AM
In my country the wife and child's receives always something... the law is planned that way.
You don't receive nothing just if you are "dispossessed"
smoothy
Oct 15, 2010, 09:03 AM
Well, I assumed english wasn't your first language (but you do write it well).
The problem is he is in the USA... he has been in the USA for many years. Here, American law is what applies. While he remains in the USA... its what American law allows. And if his assets are all here, if he gives EVERYTHING to another person organisation or charity there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Sorry, but that's his right. As was mentioned, if he died without a will, then you might argue FOR the assets in probate court.
As I said... most people give what they have to their children upon their death... but many don't for any number of reasons. As much as it may upset you, what applies in your country doesn't apply here unless we have a similar law.
If he ever returned to your home country then your laws there would apply.
You used the word entitlement... that means you have the right to something... what you believe you should get, is not the same as what you have the right to get.
ShineYourEyes
Oct 15, 2010, 09:34 AM
If you are 20 years and you don't know what to do with your life but looking for an inheritance somewhere is not a good sign that you have developed properly. Get up and use the opportunity you have and not the one you didn't have. IF you continue to cry over a spill milk, I'm sorry.
smoothy
Oct 15, 2010, 09:45 AM
If you are 20 years and you don't know what to do with your life but looking for an inheritance somewhere is not a good sign that you have developed properly. Get up and use the opportunity you have and not the one you didn't have. IF you continue to cry over a spill milk, I'm sorry.
That and the man may live to be 105 for all any of us know (nobody without a terminal illness has any idea how long they will live). That's a long, LONG time to wait for something, assuming he actually has much of any value at that time. For all any of us know we could die in an accident today... or live long enough to be the oldest living person... or anything in between. Make the most of what you do have... and don't waste it thinking about what if. We can't change the past... but how you approach life WILL influence what you make of your future.
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 01:45 PM
This is an interesting question. I have to ask you. From what you know was there any type of court or governing proceedings that went on when he was suppose to go through the process of recognition?
Also I didn't see what country you are in and it may make a difference. There is actually a possibility that he may owe for back child support. The money wouldn't be owed to you but to your mother.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:13 PM
You are talking with the wrong person, I don't need his money... I want him to pay... maybe is a little revenge... for all the efforts my mother have done. Maybe for you this situation is normal, but I don't think so.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:28 PM
Okay Okay this is not a problem, my first goal is not his money... I wrote to him... and he didn't had the courage to answer. He's a bastard, he's a doctor, he has money... he supports politicians of his town with donations... and he never...
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:31 PM
Helped my mother. I want my little revenge... and I want to finish want my mother started 20 years ago with the process. I give him his last chance... after I will get in touch with a lawyer.. and his new family will know everything.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
Is better for him to answer, to recognise me... to give some money to my mother telling: Sorry, I'm a bastard.
I will have my little revenge... in one way or another
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:43 PM
My questions were general... I just want to now how does it works in USA... and if is possible to force him to recognise me with a DNA test. If is possible I will hire a laywer in California... and we will see
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:46 PM
There's a court order, and there was a monthly amount, but I don't know why, he runned away before the DNA test, and his name is not on my birth certif.
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 02:50 PM
I'm in Swtzerland, is pretty impossible to find here a lawyer how knows USA laws... maybe you can find some... but they are specialized in finanacial and economics matter... certenlz not in family law =)
ShineYourEyes
Oct 15, 2010, 02:55 PM
Why are you trying to revenge? If someone is to trail you for some of the wrong you too have done, you will not be able to contain it. Face your life and forget the past. Your future is bigger than your past. Confirm.
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:02 PM
If there is a court order. And there is a monthly amount then he will be in what's called arrears.
What you need to do is have that order enforced. You need to get a lawyer or someone there to help you if possible. You might also be able to do this yourself but it is your mom who is the beneficiary.
California Department of Child Support Services > Home (http://www.childsup.ca.gov/default.aspx)
You will need to explain in detail and provide all proof as they ask you to do. They can help you collect it. It may be a matter of jurisdiction and it may need to be transferred. But it is possible.
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:06 PM
Why are you trying to revenge? If someone is to trail you for some of the wrong you too have done, you will not be able to contain it. Face your life and forget the past. Your future is bigger than your past. Confirm.
Motives aside. If this man had an order against him and fled the country to get away from his obligation then the law says he is to pay his court ordered child support. It never goes away. Had this been a California generated order he would be owing 10% on his arrears yearly.
It adds up very fast.
smoothy
Oct 15, 2010, 03:08 PM
US laws don't matter... YOU and your mother were not here as residents or citizens during your childhood. US laws don't apply because of you are under Swiss Laws which don't apply here.
If he ever returns to Swiss territory... THEN you can do something.
My advice is get over it. He owes you nothing. You are entitled to nothing. Wasting your youth being bitter about a man you never knew and never wanted anything to do with you will get you nothing... and will only hold you back in life. You can't be looking back and moving forward at the same time.
When you are able to do that you will see the wisdom in what I just said. Sometimes life isn't fair... but if you make the best of what life does offer you, then you can consider yourself a success.
But if you sit around complaining and wanting "revenge" its only going to hurt YOU.
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:09 PM
Here are several that practice family law in Switzerland. You can try contacting them to get information on ones that are near you.
Child Support and Custody Lawyer in Switzerland - Switzerland Lawyer Child Support and Custody - Child Support and Custody Attorneys Switzerland (http://www.hg.org/law-firms/Child-Support-and-Custody/Switzerland.html)
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:11 PM
US laws don't matter....YOU and your mother were not here. US laws don't apply.
Swiss Laws don't apply here.
My advice....get over it. He owes you nothing. You are entitled to nothing. Wasting your youth being bitter about a man you never knew will get you nothing....and will only hold you back.
This is incorrect. We have signed agreements with other countries concerning the application of child support as well as other laws that protect certain rights such as being married etc. So a swiss order is good as far as the courts are concerned. Otherwise you could have the noncustodial parents fleeing to other countries and never having to pay a dime. It doesn't work that way.
ShineYourEyes
Oct 15, 2010, 03:33 PM
10% yearly! Cool money eh? Look elsewhere my friend.
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:34 PM
10% yearly! Cool money eh? Look elsewhere my friend.
Who are you addressing?
Leonardo1000
Oct 15, 2010, 03:45 PM
Thanks
cdad
Oct 15, 2010, 03:54 PM
In case anyone was curious check it for yorself.
http://www.ncsea.org/content.asp?contentid=419