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tomder55
Sep 25, 2010, 11:45 AM
Obama compadre and patron ,former Weather Underground terrorist and, current professor at the Univiersity of Illinois Chicago William Ayers was denied the prestigious status of Professor Emeritus by a unanimous vote of the University Board .

One of the overlooked Ayers books before the 2008 election was the almost forgotten "communist/terrorist manifesto " written by Ayers called Prairie Fire . In the book he brags about the bombings he planned ,his communist convictions ,and the rationale behind the Weather Underground terrorist movement (which had nothing to do with Vietnam) . Ayers dedicated the book to a rogues gallery that included Robert F Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan.

He later went on from a terrorist bomber to university professor when he realized he could do more damage to the country by controlling what American youth learn than blowing up buildings and people one bomb at a time (as evidenced in his address with ,and praise of Hugo Chavez ,in Venezuela, about radical education).

The delicious irony is that the UIC board is led by Chris Kennedy RFK's SON!!

In a very emotional statement Kennedy declared :

“I intend to vote against conferring the honorific title of our university to a man whose body of work includes a book dedicated in part to the man who murdered my father, Robert F. Kennedy,” .....
“There is nothing more antithetical to the hopes for a university that is lively and yet civil, or to the hopes of our founding fathers for their great experiment of a self-governing people, than to permanently seal off debate with one's opponents by killing them.”

BAM!!

Ayer's chickens coming home to roost!

The next thing for the board to do is to expel him from the University for spreading his hatred of his country to generations of American youth . As for young Kennedy... it is all well and good that you took this action for a personal vendetta . Now let's hear your condemnation of Ayers for his past terrorist activities.

speechlesstx
Sep 25, 2010, 04:55 PM
What is it folks from that generation like to say? Karma's a b*tch?

Wondergirl
Sep 25, 2010, 05:06 PM
Ayers is denied because of personal spite?

tomder55
Sep 25, 2010, 05:35 PM
Yes dedication of his book to the terrorist who snuffed his old man was kind of hard to get over for Chris Kennedy I guess

Wondergirl
Sep 25, 2010, 05:38 PM
Doesn't seem ummmm ethical.

tomder55
Sep 25, 2010, 07:46 PM
What really isn't ethical is keeping an unrepentant scum like Ayers as a professor in the 1st place. Kennedy is right on .Too bad it takes something personal like this for the left to recognize what a piece of krap Ayers is . I liken the University even considering honoring that sub-human as the equivalent of the Palestinians naming streets after homicide bombers.

There is nothing entitled about the emeritus status .It is an honor and a privilege... not a right. I don't think the board went far enough. Kennedy ,as chair of the board sat silent for years while the creating was a professor at the University . He had many occasions to allow investigations into Ayers past and continuous terror supporting activities. I will remind you that Ayers was this year ,deeply involved in the flotilla incident ,and giving support to Hamas

He lived a comfortable life brainwashing American youth instead of rotting in jail where he belonged . That alone is more consideration than he deserves . That's more than police Sergeant Brian McDonnell,New York City, Judge Murtagh ,police officers, Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown, and a Brink's guard, Peter Paige received.

speechlesstx
Sep 26, 2010, 04:36 AM
Doesn't seem ummmm ethical.

Really? Why?

excon
Sep 26, 2010, 05:16 AM
Obama compadre and patron ,former Weather Underground terrorist and, current professor at the Univiersity of Illinois Chicago William Ayers Hello tom:

The only reason for your interest in a 60's radical is if you believe that Obama was his "compadre". You're wrong as usual. This 60's was a long time ago... Let it go...

excon

tomder55
Sep 26, 2010, 06:50 AM
Nope... Just can't let go of the fact that the President's patron and friend is a terror bomber . Sgt McDonnell left 2 children behind .Ayers is no different than Tim Mc Veigh .

Wondergirl
Sep 26, 2010, 10:45 AM
Nope ...Just can't let go of the fact that the President's patron and friend is a terror bomber .
Ayers and his wife agreed to be the host for Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event. They aren't friends (more like acquaintances) and Ayers kicked in -- guess how much money?

tomder55
Sep 26, 2010, 11:31 AM
OK ,deny the Annenburg and the Woods Fund connection if you like . Ignore the Obama and Bernardine Dohrn connection from their law firm Sidley and Austin days .


The truth is that they have had a long time personal and professional relationship since 1988.

Wondergirl
Sep 26, 2010, 12:04 PM
And how many hundreds of people were also involved in those things including the law firm? They were ships passing in the night.

tomder55
Sep 26, 2010, 03:41 PM
.. ships that sailed the same cruise and docked in the same port.
Give it up. The links are undeniable .

Wondergirl
Sep 26, 2010, 04:03 PM
..ships that sailed the same cruise and docked in the same port.
Give it up. The links are undeniable .
"Links." *piffle* I put more money into Obama's presidential campaign than Ayers did.

tomder55
Sep 26, 2010, 04:58 PM
Patron means more than monetary support. Obama's career and it's direction was orchestrated by Ayers .

The money was from Dr. Khalid al Mansour .

excon
Sep 26, 2010, 05:02 PM
Patron means more than monetary support. Obama's career and it's direction was orchestrated by Ayers . Hello again, tom:

You righty's just keep making up stuff, don't you? It ain't going to work, though.

excon

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 04:18 AM
Just connecting the dots... doing the job the press used to do or would've done had they taken the time to put down their pom poms

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 08:43 AM
pom poms
pom pom = an automatic rapid-firing, small-calibre cannon, esp a type of anti-aircraft cannon used in World War II

pom pon = a decorative ball of fluff, often shaken by cheerleaders

Just wondering which you mean...

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 09:16 AM
I'm just going to come right out and ask, why do you guys defend this terrorist scumbag?

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 09:30 AM
I don't see any defending in this thread, I see people correcting you and tom on the link you are making that isn't there.

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 09:51 AM
pom pom = an automatic rapid-firing, small-calibre cannon, esp a type of anti-aircraft cannon used in World War II

pom pon = a decorative ball of fluff, often shaken by cheerleaders

Just wondering which you mean....

I believe you know which definition I mean.

Former Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton confirmed that al Mansour helped Obama get into Harvard (maybe Sutton was lying too) .

From there ,the dots connect as al Mansour has clear links to Ayers . Every other aspect of Obama's rise has an Ayers connection.
Too many ships sailing in the same sea to be a coincidence.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 09:55 AM
http://urbanflyventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Its-A-Conspiracy.jpg

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 10:00 AM
I don't see any defending in this thread, I see people correcting you and tom on the link you are making that isn't there.

That's funny, I don't see me making any link so that would be you making a link that isn't there.

If it makes you feel better I'll rephrase, why are you guys apologists for this terrorist scumbag?

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 10:03 AM
That's funny, I don't see me making any link so that would be you making a link that isn't there.Well then if there is no link between Ayers and Obama this is a non-thread.


why are you guys apologists for this terrorist scumbagOnce again I see no one doing that in this thread.

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 10:09 AM
Well then if there is no link between Ayers and Obama this is a non-thread.

NK, the only thing irrelevant here are your contributions to this thread.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 10:11 AM
If you have to post that derogatory comment then I guess I won. :)

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 10:19 AM
If you have to post that derogatory comment then I guess I won. :)

If it makes you feel better, OK.

Now, why do you guys defend this terrorist scumbag?

"Ayers is denied because of personal spite?"

"Doesn't seem ummmm ethical."-Wondergirl

That's a defense, and I'll phrase the question how I please.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 10:29 AM
"Ayers is denied because of personal spite?"

"Doesn't seem ummmm ethical."-WondergirlShe seems to be commenting the reason for a university to deny a promotion. Not a defense or support of a terrorist. Kind of like if you were denied a promotion because you spraypainted the company's wall when you were 18. If someone said that seemed unethical no one would scream "WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS NEOCON?????"

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 10:40 AM
I agree that Ayers should not have been named emeritus, but the reason why it was done was all wrong. It reminded me of how we ended up in Iraq.

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 10:45 AM
Well that's a Kennedy for you. They support terrorists until one of their own get's wacked .

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 10:47 AM
Well that's a Kennedy for ya. They support terrorists until one of their own get's wacked .
Ayers should not be named professor emeritus. Why not?

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 10:53 AM
Because he should not be a professor . Because he is a poor representative for the University with his continued terror supporting ,and his past terrorist activities. Because his terrorist activities led to his direct and/or indirect culpability in murder .

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 10:54 AM
Bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon, police stations, robbing banks and murder vs. graffiti. No I don't see how one's kind of like the other.

The facts is, William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant terrorists who engaged in a self-declared war against their country, yet have been embraced with open arms by the left. Why?

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 10:59 AM
The facts is, William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant terrorists who engaged in a self-declared war against their country, yet have been embraced with open arms by the left. Why?Making stuff up again I see.

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 11:06 AM
Nothing made up in Steve's reply. Ayers bragged about his terrorism in his memoir . 'Fugitive Days'. He was interviewed by the NY Slimes about the book and his quote that he wished he'd done more bombing. The Slimes made it their front page story on 9-11-01.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 11:09 AM
It's on the front page so you conclude the "left embraces him"? Ignorance abounds here.

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 11:14 AM
William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant [domestic] terrorists
There you go! I agree. He was an arrogant rich kid caught up in the times (which I happily was slightly too old to get caught up in). But he's never repented, never said he's sorry. Even though he occasionally comes up with some good ideas about how to educate, that doesn't erase the rest of what he stands for.

P.S. The "left" doesn't embrace him.

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 11:16 AM
It's on the front page so you conclude the "left embraces him"? Ignorance abounds here.

Pay attention, NK, even Wondergirl noted how he hosted "Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event." I'd say hosting the future president is an embrace.

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 11:18 AM
Pay attention, NK, even Wondergirl noted how he hosted "Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event." I'd say hosting the future president is an embrace.
AND that was because they lived in the same neighborhood and not because they were best friends. Do you know all your neighbors intimately? I don't even know the people on my own block!

If I thought one of my neighbors might have a chance to become president of the U.S. I'd kick in $200 bucks and my living room.

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 11:23 AM
The question is why would the President agree to it knowing the history of Ayers ? Answer Because he "owes " him.

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 11:26 AM
The question is why would the President agree to it knowing the history of Ayers ? Answer Because he "owes " him.
Not true. You're jumping to conclusions. Obama was a State Senator, and this was in Hyde Park. Do you know anything about Hyde Park?

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 11:33 AM
It doesn't matter where it took place. Obama had a long relationship with Ayers dating back to his Columbia U days (or possibly even in his Occidental College days although the President and his handlers have done a fairly good job scrubbing the public record of those years ) .

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 11:34 AM
It doesn't matter where it took place.
Of course it does! I guess I will break for lunch.

Ayers grew up in Glen Ellyn, a suburb close enough I could spit into from my front porch. I'm sure you could make something of that too.

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 11:40 AM
Obama had a long relationship with Ayers dating back to his Columbia U days
I missed this tidbit. How did they know each other in such a huge college?

Lunchtime. Bye for now.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 11:47 AM
Here we can put this thread to rest now:
Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'? – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-is-obama-palling-around-with-terrorists/)

The extent of Obama's relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood ... the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago - when I was 8 years old - somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

tomder55
Sep 27, 2010, 11:51 AM
Fill in the blanks :

Somewhere between 1981-1983 William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?

1987 William Ayers and Barack Obama work together in Chicago to reform public schools (Alliance for Better Chicago Schools )

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama's Harvard law School education (confirmed by Sutton)

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts Obama's political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers).

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 12:08 PM
AND that was because they lived in the same neighborhood and not because they were best friends. Do you know all your neighbors intimately? I don't even know the people on my own block!

Did I say anything about them being best friends? No I did not, but it was on Huffpo where a former CIA and State Dept official said Ayers would be "Obama's Willie Horton (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/no-he-cant-because-yes-th_b_87036.html)" due to their longstanding ties (Note, he also said Ayers is "normally described as a distinguished education professor" which also sounds like an embrace to me).


William Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist, though he is normally described as a distinguished education professor. One does not necessarily rule out the other, but he himself acknowledges planting bombs in U.S. Federal buildings. There is now undeniable proof of a longstanding relationship between Barack Obama and William Ayers. We are not talking about two guys who just happened to bump into one another on the street. We are not talking about a secret admirer (Ayers) who quietly sent $200 to an aspiring politician.

No, we are talking about William Ayers hosting a fundraiser for Barack Obama and actively working with him to secure Barack's first electoral victory in Illinois. But wait, there is more. Barack and Ayers also served on the board of the Woods Fund. And they worked together to give money to some other folks, including a group with ties to the PLO.

What makes Ayers so toxic is his own written record equating U.S. Marines with terrorists. Look at the beating that John Kerry took for tossing his medals over the White House fence. Ayers did not toss medals, he threw bombs. Real ones. Bombs that exploded.

Do you think that Republicans will ignore Obama's ties to Ayers? The two were serving on the same board in 2002. We are talking less than six years ago and the record will come out showing some questionable grants by these two characters. William Ayers, in the age of terrorism, will be Barack Obama's Willie Horton.

NeedKarma
Sep 27, 2010, 12:18 PM
Did I say anything about them being best friends?
No, tom did.

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 01:50 PM
Somewhere between 1981-1983 William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?
Big school, but very possible. If Ayers had been a prof at my college, I would have know about it and would have gone to a tea in order to meet him, especially if I was interested in any kind of political or educational reform. So we meet. So what?

1995 Ayers hosts Obama's political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers).
Is there documentation for this? (And it wasn't his political debut, by the way.)

excon
Sep 27, 2010, 02:05 PM
Is there documentation for this?Hello WG:

What difference does it make?? Obama is EITHER a Muslim Terrorist planted here when he was a baby, so that he could grow up, get elected president, and turn us over to the Islamists... OR he is a left wing radical hippie bent on Socialism and Marxism for the US.

I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

excon

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2010, 02:13 PM
I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

Hello, excon:

He's sure darn cute though.

speechlesstx
Sep 27, 2010, 04:16 PM
What difference does it make??? Obama is EITHER a Muslim Terrorist planted here when he was a baby, so that he could grow up, get elected president, and turn us over to the Islamists... OR he is a left wing radical hippie bent on Socialism and Marxism for the US.

I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

I was a hippie, I knew plenty of hippies, and trust me, Obama is no hippie. I do think I've found the perfect job for him though, as the UN alien ambassador (http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/un-to-appoint-earth-contact-for-aliens/story-e6frfku0-1225929498742).

tomder55
Sep 28, 2010, 03:51 AM
I was a hippie, I knew plenty of hippies, and trust me, Obama is no hippie. I do think I've found the perfect job for him though, as the UN alien ambassador (http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/un-to-appoint-earth-contact-for-aliens/story-e6frfku0-1225929498742).


What ? Dennis Kucinich wasn't available ?

speechlesstx
Sep 28, 2010, 04:27 AM
What ? Dennis Kucinich wasn't available ?

I think Kucinich IS an alien... or at least his wife.