Im 16 and my girlfriend and I have been talking about marriage laws since I've proposed to her. I need to know if it is legal to marry her. I already know the Washington state law that applies to 16 year olds, but it says nothing about marriage between two separate ages.

There is one key point you two have not considered, but let me answer your question first. In WA state the legal age to marry is l8; under that age you need parental consent. It doesn't matter that she is 23; now the hard part. Your g/f could be charged with sexual interference of a minor and I am presuming you two have had sex; I don't think anyone is that niave. Of course, if no one finds out she won't be, but if you two try to get married she will. I do have a problem with a sexual relationship between a l6 year old and a 23 year old woman though. Lets hear what others have to say, okay.

Tick

I haven't had sexual relations with my girlfriend up to this point, but thank you for the insight.

You haven't had sexual relations with your g/f ? Tell me another one my dear. Oh, okay, you have decided you and she haven't after you found out she could good to jail for having sex with you.

Tick

Do your parents know about her and how old she is? I believe you have had sex and she's either desperate or she can't get someone her own age. Glad you're not my son. I would be in jail.

Danny, what's the rush to propose and get married?

Long engagements take care of any legal problems and give you both a chance to work on a stable foundation for marriage.

You have proposed to this child molester, you can't support her, you are limited in where you can go with her, you are still in HS (I hope) This woman should be in jail.

I think this may be wishful thinking on your part. Unless this woman is mentally challenged, she knows she cannot marry you without your parents consent, she knows she is breaking the law with you and what in the world would she do with a 16 year old husband.
Where did you meet this wooman? I hope she is not one of your teachers.

I don't understand how a youngster like you could be in love with a 23 year old woman. I should have said a woman who is 23 in years, but apparently isn't mature enough to know she is breaking the law. You better put a stop to it. If you don't you may be visiting her in Prison.

I am not going to jump onto this 16 year old boy, assuming this is a "hot" looking 23 year old, she is mature, has money most likely if she is working, most likely has a car. And for a 16 year old ( what 10th or 11th grade) this is like winning the lottery, all of his friends think he is scoring ( having sex) with a older women, This should make me a "god" or status person in school.

And who would not want to find and get attention from someone that is considered out of their ability.

I have concerns over why this women would do this, but anyway, My blame will go toward a women who knows or should know better, taking emotional advantage of a boy.

I don't know, Chuck, he seems to write quite well with decent grammar for a l6 year old *shrugging*. More here than meets the eye. Don't think he will be back though.

No. The age of majority is 18 in Washington. You need the parents consent. Furthermore, no state allows marriages if you are under 18, without parents consent.

Oh Im back, and I don't appreciate Chucks answer. I don't want to marry her because she is "hot", though she is very beautiful. Im marrying her because I love her more than I ever thought possible, she makes me happier than Ive ever been before.

If we are married, the legal system can't do anything about her and I being together.

If you don't mind, I would like a little more information. You may be able to clear some things up for me.

I have permission from my mother and most of my family. I met her online, though we aren't long distance, just happened to meet that way. Stop calling my fiancé a child molester.

My family knows about our engagement and that Im moving in with her soon. I have permission to marry her from my mother. We haven't had sex, were waiting till marriage so its legal.

I already knew this, as I stated it above with my question.

One more thing. I posted this question to get answers to my question, not to be criticized by people that don't know my relationship with my fiancé. In addition, read my comments before posting!

You are 16 years old, if this is in fact real.
Are you still in school?
And whether you want her called that or not, she is a criminal under the law. You are a minor she is an adult.

You may not like the answers you are given but they are good advice. Whether you want to face the fact or not, there is something hinky about a 23 year old woman agreeing to or even wanting to marry a 16 year old boy. What can you contribute to this relationship?

So... you do realize that an older women liking a guy in high school is because she wants to feel adored and worshiped and like she has the upper hand in the relationship right? SO either she is like obese, greasy, and can't get anyone better, OR... you are what is referred to as a "boy-toy". Either way all I can really think to say is "EW." Good day.

She isn't any of these things. People are so judge-mental these days. And I asked HER to marry ME! I asked her out, I asked her for her number! All that crap! Stop criticizing her! If you're going to criticize anyone, criticize me!

I have a job, I love, care, and support her in anyway she needs it without her even asking me. We haven't had sex and it isn't illegal when married. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL YOU IMBECILE!

danny, the 'comment box' does not alert us that you have responded to the thread. Please use the Answer box at the bottom of the page. It does tell us when you respond.

Danny, a long engagement of two years would allow you both to be certain that this is the best relationship for both of you. It would take out the need for parental permission, too and show that you are both better able to handle the changes that come with marriage.

IF you are so set on marriage right this minute, I think you should take a marriage preparation class together. Many churches and communities have them available. In some places taking one can get you a huge discount on the marriage license fee.

How long have you known this woman and how well do you really know her? I don't recommend marrying anyone that you have known less than a year. It takes months to really know enough about the ins and outs of someone else's personality and quirks and for them to know yours before a really stable foundation for a lasting relationship is formed.

Are you truly ready to become an adult in the eyes of the law? It means that you get the responsibilities without the perks. You become responsible for yourself and all of your needs and hers (marriage is a joint endeavor), but you still can't vote or legally drink and smoke.

Be certain this is what you want and not just because she makes you happier than you ever have been. You shouldn't put anyone other than yourself in the position of 'making' you happy. It isn't fair to them or you.

So... you do realize that an older women liking a guy in high school is because she wants to feel adored and worshiped and like she has the upper hand in the relationship right? SO either she is like obese, greasy, and can't get anyone better, OR... you are what is referred to as a "boy-toy". Either way all I can really think to say is "EW." Good day.

Although I do agree with the fact that a 23 year old would want to be with a 16 year old is wrong on so many levels.

I have to disagree, respectfully with you about her weight size being a reason why she has gravitated to this 16 year old.

I don't think her looks is a reason. I believe that either she is a sick woman, or she genuinely fell in love with a minor. Wrong? Yes. However, it has been known to happen.

danny, the 'comment box' does not alert us that you have responded to the thread. Please use the Answer box at the bottom of the page. It does tell us when you respond.

Danny, a long engagement of two years would allow you both to be certain that this is the best relationship for both of you. It would take out the need for parental permission, too and show that you are both better able to handle the changes that come with marriage.

IF you are so set on marriage right this minute, I think you should take a marriage preparation class together. Many churches and communities have them available. In some places taking one can get you a huge discount on the marriage license fee.

How long have you known this woman and how well do you really know her? I don't recommend marrying anyone that you have known less than a year. It takes months to really know enough about the ins and outs of someone else's personality and quirks and for them to know yours before a really stable foundation for a lasting relationship is formed.

Are you truly ready to become an adult in the eyes of the law? It means that you get the responsibilities without the perks. You become responsible for yourself and all of your needs and hers (marriage is a joint endeavor), but you still can't vote or legally drink and smoke.

Be certain this is what you want and not just because she makes you happier than you ever have been. You shouldn't put anyone other than yourself in the position of 'making' you happy. It isn't fair to them or you.

I have decided to marry her and that is what I will do. Getting married solves legal issues as far as her and I being together. Its not just that she makes me happy. She has been there for me through some of my worst relationships and truly cares about me and my feelings. I do the same for her when she needs it.

Oh, and cat, you are the only person on this page that hasn't criticized me or given me grief over my decision. Thank you for being insightful and trying to help.
I will look into a few things as far as the laws and community goes. I will marry her one way or another, but I don't plan to wait till I'm 18 to do it.

As far as your two options, it is the latter. Whether this marriage is wrong or not is a matter of opinion.

Danny, please watch what you say and you might want to apologize for calling Homegirl a name. It is against the site rules. I don't want to see you banned because you couldn't carry on a discussion without resorting to name calling.

Whether you like it or not, the people on here are trying to help you see things in a different way.

By the way, in many states (such as mine, I don't know about yours) oral sex and touching of private parts is illegal. As is exposing one's self to minor or showing him/her adult-related materials (videos, movies, pictures, etc.) Just a few things for you to think about.

How long have you known this woman and do your parents know how old she is?

Have you even finished HS, do you plan on doing so? There is no way you are going to be able to take care of a wife and all of the responsibilities that go along with marriage if you can't get a job.
Perhaps this should wait until you are at least 18.

dannyo013 : I have a job, I love, care, and support her in anyway she needs it without her even asking me. We haven't had sex and it isnt illegal when married. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL YOU IMBECILE!
With all due respect, you are the one with the problem here not me. You are 16 years old, no HS diploma. Do you make enough money to pay rent, support a child if there is one? Can you take care of the kind of business adults need to do? You are a minor, you can't even sign the lease on anything.
Your calling me names is showing your age and maturity level. Give yourself a couple of years or more.
You said you will find a way to marry. If your parents know about this I take it they won't sign for you.

danny, please watch what you say and you might want to apologize for calling Homegirl a name. It is against the site rules. I don't want to see you banned because you couldn't carry on a discussion without resorting to name calling.

Whether you like it or not, the people on here are trying to help you see things in a different way.

By the way, in many states (such as mine, I don't know about yours) oral sex and touching of private parts is illegal. As is exposing one's self to minor or showing him/her adult-related materials (videos, movies, pictures, etc.) Just a few things for you to think about.

I will keep this in mind in the future. I apologize, I am just becoming irritated with some of the "answers" on this page. I am protective of my fiancé more than anything and will fight to the death for her, insulting her is not the best way to stay on my good side. Plus, I believe "Imbecile" is a bit less harsh than "Child Molester". Im sure I cannot be the only one who thinks so.

My entire family knows her age and what we plan to do... Ive only said it 58 times already (exaggeration). If I were to wait till 18, we would end up going through court and her ending up in jail. Starting to get the bigger picture?

If you marry her when you are an adult then there is no legal problem.
And stop writing in the comment box.

I will keep this in mind in the future. I apologize, I am just becoming irritated with some of the "answers" on this page. I am protective of my fiance more than anything and will fight to the death for her, insulting her is not the best way to stay on my good side. Plus, I believe "Imbecile" is a bit less harsh than "Child Molester". Im sure I cannot be the only one who thinks so.

I just would like to add that Homegirl gives great advice. She is not an "Imbecile"!

You have to understand that with the information that you have provided us with, you may not like the answers that you get. We aretrying to help you out. So please be respectful to those who are simply doing that for you.

Insulting the experts and great members of AMHD is not the best way to stay on OUR good side.

Please read the rules if you need a better understanding of how things work around here.

Thank you.

It's that simple. All I want is an answer, don't post if you are going to give me grief over this question. All I want to know is if it is legal for me to have sex with my fiancé after marriage.

Posting this in a different spot is not going work. It will just get merged with your other thread.
If you are married sex is not illegal, but you have to get get parental permission to marry her as you are a minor.
At her age she should know all of this. Have you even discussed this with her?

I am going to second Cats suggestion to wait for marriage. Although it is difficult to comprehend at 16, your life will go through many changes emotionally and mentally before you reach the age of 23. Until that transition has occurred you are going to have a difficult time believing that there is a problem with a 23 year old and a 16 year old having a relationship. It's about life experiences and where you are in life that makes the age difference extreme.

At 16, life is all about growing up but that will come in time. Take the time to graduate high school, pursue college and a career, not a 'job', move out, manage bills, own a vehicle that is dependable. If she loves you and you love her, she will wait to marry you until you are 18. Your relationship can only grow with time, what is the rush other than wanting to legalize the ability to sleep together, if you are mature, you can focus on building a relationship that isn't based on sex and that will only contribute to the strength and foundation of your marriage.

dannyo013 : My entire family knows her age and what we plan to do... Ive only said it 58 times already (exaggeration). If I were to wait till 18, we would end up going through court and her ending up in jail. Starting to get the bigger picture?

If you don't do anything sexual, the courts/police can't and won't step in. Dating and abstinence is not a crime.

Take your time. You are making a decision for a lifetime. So don't rush it.

I have decided to marry her and that is what I will do. Getting married solves legal issues as far as her and I being together. Its not just that she makes me happy. She has been there for me through some of my worst relationships and truly cares about me and my feelings. I do the same for her when she needs it.

Oh, and cat, you are the only person on this page that hasnt criticized me or given me grief over my decision. Thank you for being insightful and trying to help.
I will look into a few things as far as the laws and community goes. I will marry her one way or another, but I dont plan to wait till im 18 to do it.

What legal issue does that solve? On your wedding night she can be arrested and put away and tagged for life. Marriage doesn't superceed the law. Your in a dream world. The law clearly address the issue of age and its consent involved. Since your ages are so far apart they are still guilty of a crime. Marriage alone is no defense.

RCW 9A.44.030: Defenses to prosecution under this chapter. (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.030)

The whole chapter on Sexual offenses for your state can be found here:
Chapter 9A.44 RCW: Sex offenses (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44)

We've already told you that it would require parental consent to marry prior to age 18.

So given the laws of the state of Washington, I don't think you will find ANYONE to marry you even WITH parental consent. Since doing so would be allowing your fiancée to commit an illegal act.

Oh and by the way a 16 yr old is not a man . You are still a boy and legally a minor whether you like it or not.

That's the law whether you like it or not.

On a personal note, pedophiles are not only males. So far you have shown, by your actions here, that you are not mature enough to be making these decisions. Second, any reasonable person is going to question a 23 yr old having a relationship with a 16 yr old. Whatever the sexes on each side. I have a hard time accepting you at your word that your parents approve of this relationship.

From what you have written here it appears to me that you are as horny as H-E double hockey sticks. That you want sex in the worst way. That you are just rational enough to understand that doing it with a 23 yr old will get her jailed as a sex offender. Or maybe she is refusing you for that reason. In any event I see lust here, not love.

I have to say that, yes, scottgem has already ELABORATED on what would happen. And, I can't pinpoint the post but you stated 'so, just WHAT do I have to do have SEX WITH HER'. It would have been, 'just what do I have to do to make love to my woman', but you didn't say that.

If you don't want input, don't want answers, taking a little bit out of each response, to read what you want to, then you don't belong here. I still say you write better then I would imagine a l6 year old would write. So, who are you, and what do you want us to say?

I SUGGEST THIS THREAD BE CLOSED.

Tick

danny, what's the rush to propose and get married?

Long engagements take care of any legal problems and give you both a chance to work on a stable foundation for marriage.

I can see the reason, why can't you. She is holding out because she doesn't really want the advances of a 'l6 year old' who is pressuring her and can't see passed the sex part which she is not really willing to do. She knows what is going on.

Tick

I wonder what is going on in her mind. Surely she knows she cannot marry this boy, unless she is emotionally challenged.

My most sincere apologies to Cat, who took exception to my response to his comments in #26. None were intended I assure you. I meant to say, and I thought I did, that OP is in a rush to propose and get married, because, and he insists he and his g/f have never had sex before. She is holding out, for probably good reasons.

Tick

My most sincere apologies to Cat, who took exception to my response to his comments in #26. None were intended I assure you. I meant to say, and I thought I did, that OP is in a rush to propose and get married, because, and he insists he and his g/f have never had sex before. She is holding out, for probably good reasons.

tick

Apologies accepted and extended for misunderstanding your intentions and point.

Cat (not Cats) :)

Is she a school teacher?

Wait till you're 23 and she's 30, then you may be able to understand each other better.

What do you two have in common? I am curious.

Actually--the BEST comparison here is asking the OP whether he'd be interested in dating a 9 year old.

No?

Well, why not? It's the same age gap as between you and your girlfriend, and with the same number of life changes that happen in those 7 years! Do you have a lot in common with 9 year olds? Well, what in god's name do you think a 23 year old has in common with you?

I ALSO think this is your FIRST girlfriend. Most of us are madly in love with our "first" while the relationship lasts, but the perspective of years lets us know how truly wrong that relationship was for us.

You have some growing up to do still, whether you like it or not. YOU have nothing in common with a 23 year old, unless you are one of those rare genius children that has graduated high school at 14 and is now in his sophomore year of college----which I truly doubt.

Actually--the BEST comparison here is asking the OP whether or not he'd be interested in dating a 9 year old.

No?

Well, why not? It's the same age gap as between you and your girlfriend, and with the same number of life changes that happen in those 7 years! Do you have a lot in common with 9 year olds? Well, what in god's name do you think a 23 year old has in common with you?


Had to spread the rep, but that is a GREAT suggestion. I would love to see the OP try to answer that one.

Actually--the BEST comparison here is asking the OP whether he'd be interested in dating a 9 year old.

No?

Well, why not? It's the same age gap as between you and your girlfriend, and with the same number of life changes that happen in those 7 years! Do you have a lot in common with 9 year olds? Well, what in god's name do you think a 23 year old has in common with you?

I ALSO think this is your FIRST girlfriend. Most of us are madly in love with our "first" while the relationship lasts, but the perspective of years lets us know how truly wrong that relationship was for us.

You have some growing up to do still, whether you like it or not. YOU have nothing in common with a 23 year old, unless you are one of those rare genius children that has graduated high school at 14 and is now in his sophomore year of college----which I truly doubt.

While true I wouldn't date a 9 year old, its because I would not want to date someone with that low of a maturity level.

Try looking above, smart one

While true I wouldnt date a 9 year old, its because I would not want to date someone with that low of a maturity level.

And what do you think a 24 yr old woman would feel towards a 16 yr old kid?

Well of course the maturity level would be low, we are talking about a child, a minor.
But compared to most 23 year olds a 16 year old maturity level is lower than his/hers, but they would not date one because at 16 you are a minor and you have little to nothing in common.
How does this 23 year old woman justify her relationship with you, knowing she is breaking the law and basically robbing you of your teen years?
What do you two do? I'm not trying to be funny, but I don't understand what a 23 year old woman sees in a 16 year old boy.

Actually--the BEST comparison here is asking the OP whether he'd be interested in dating a 9 year old.

No?

Well, why not? It's the same age gap as between you and your girlfriend, and with the same number of life changes that happen in those 7 years! Do you have a lot in common with 9 year olds? Well, what in god's name do you think a 23 year old has in common with you?

I ALSO think this is your FIRST girlfriend. Most of us are madly in love with our "first" while the relationship lasts, but the perspective of years lets us know how truly wrong that relationship was for us.

You have some growing up to do still, whether you like it or not. YOU have nothing in common with a 23 year old, unless you are one of those rare genius children that has graduated high school at 14 and is now in his sophomore year of college----which I truly doubt.

I forgot to mention this in my last answer. I have dated at least 40 girls, my fiancé is not my first girlfriend, far from it. I have plenty in common with my fiancé, we are both mature, caring of each other, have almost all the same likes and dislikes, even the same freaking favorite color (green), we agree on nearly everything.

Age difference does not mean we have nothing in common. Im sure a lot of people have quite a bit common with their parents, does that mean that they are going to date? No (or at least I hope not).

I like to think that I am mature for my age, as I have been told this most of my life. I think that my fiancé is perfect for me in every way, and she believes the same about me.

Can any one of you think back to when you were in school and you were told not to discriminate because of religion, race, age, weight, height, etc. Why does it all change suddenly when someone my age falls in love with someone the age of my fiancé? I know for a fact that if any one of you were to be accused of discrimination, it would be nothing but the truth.

I came here in search of advise, not criticism. Some have helped me, but almost everyone has given me nothing but criticism. I say shame on you all.

I'm not criticizing you, I'm wondering why this 23 year old woman is messing with a minor.
This is not a matter of discrimination but breaking the law. At her age I'm sure she knows that is what she is doing is wrong on a whole lot of levels. Are you going to be satisfied with this woman supporting you, signing everything for you, because as a minor there is very little you can sign for.
I have a problem with her not you. She should know better

I came here in search of advise, not criticism. Some have helped me, but almost everyone has given me nothing but criticism. I say shame on you all.

Oh, get off your high horse. A lot of people come here for advice, it is a diverse community answering all questions. Are we all supposed to give the same advice every time we answer. That is what makes us different. We are all volunteers here from all walks of life, different age groups, different ways of looking at life.

If you feel that there is nothing left to find here, then, don't come back. There is nothing more for you here anyway. Some people ask questions and don't like the answers, and tell us so in sometimes very different terminology. Sobeit, then, we can't please everyone and we don't know you from a hole in the ground.

You live your life at l6 the way you want, with your 23 year old and I hope it lasts long enough for you to find yourself and exactly what you want.

Tick

I'm not criticizing you, I'm wondering why this 23 year old woman is messing with a minor.
This is not a matter of discrimination but breaking the law. At her age I'm sure she knows that is what she is doing is wrong on a whole lot of levels. Are you going to be satisfied with this woman supporting you, signing everything for you, because as a minor there is very little you can sign for.
I have a problem with her not you. She should know better

We actually didn't know each others ages till a few weeks after we started taking. She wasn't looking for someone my age, it just happened to end up that way. She wouldn't be able to sign my papers, that's why Im only moving about a block from my current home with her.

I came here in search of advise, not criticism. Some have helped me, but almost everyone has given me nothing but criticism. I say shame on you all.

No you came here for affirmation of a relationship that is questionable at best. You did ask some specific legal questions, which were answered accurately.

But you are asking us to believe that a rational, reasonable 23 yr old woman, would enter into a relationship with a 16 yr old boy. And then you become surprised when people are incredulous about this.

Next lets look at your claim about age discrimination. By that logic it would be OK for a 50 yr old man to have sex with a 14 yr old girl. After all isn't that just as much age discrimination? Sorry, that argument doesn't work. We are talking exploitation not discrimination.

And lets look at your claim that you have had dated at least 40 girls. Lets say you started dating at 13. That means averaging about 1 girl per month. Not an argument for being able to know what a real relationship is about!

Do you know what a troll is on the Internet? I'm beginning to think that's what we are dealing with here.

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Do you know what a troll is on the Internet? I'm beginning to think that's what we are dealing with here.

Actually you may have hit the nail on the head because the OP fits all the criteria for trollism. You have no idea how that thought occurred to me after reading through some of the OP's replies. There is a pattern.

Tick

I'm not criticizing you.

I'm warning you.

You may be mature for your age at 16, but you simply do NOT have the experience to determine that this woman is what you want for the rest of your life.

Hate to tell you this, but I've been married nearly 10 years, and with my husband for nearly 15. We have the same favorite color and like some of the same books. We also have different religions, different politics, and different ideas on how to budget. We don't agree on a LOT of things, and sometimes we fight.

That's a LOT healthier than "we agree on everything and like the same things".

How do you both feel about kids? How do you feel about being tied down with kids before you're an adult yourself? How do you both think kids should be raised? If you're not thinking of kids, you should be--birth control fails. I was using THREE forms of birth control correctly when I got pregnant.

What about money? You say you have a job, and so does she--what about college? Who's paying for it? You won't qualify for parental aid in student loans if you're not a dependent, you know. What about insurance? Do either of you have the kind of job that has the kind of insurance that could cover a crippling accident or disease? What do you each think about major purchases? How will you determine where money is spent when it's so tight you have to choose between a phone and food? Married without children actually qualifies you for LESS aid than you would believe in that sort of situation.

Money and kids are the two big causes of divorce--but what about the others? How will you feel when she goes out to the bars without you? What about when you can finally go to the bars at 21, and she's upset because she's stuck at home with the kids? Have you even TALKED about the age difference and what it will mean to different life goals? She should be focusing on a career right now, and you should be focusing on graduating high school and going to college. You're BOTH focusing too much on each other if you're talking marriage to get that done to the levels it should be.

Have you talked about families, yours and hers? How about how you'll spend holidays? What about if your parents or hers interfere in your marriage--have you talked out scenarios like that? What about how you will deal with parents after you have kids? Have you even THOUGHT of these questions?

I have a feeling that the focus has been on the honeymoon, feel-good part of the relationship, and that you haven't even fought about anything serious enough to know how the other person fights yet. I am sure you've also not thought of things like dividing chores, dividing costs, and determining "house rules" once you're living together.

And if you have NOT thought about all of these things ---ALL of them--then you're not ready to get married yet.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ScottGem again.


I think you might be right about the troll thing.
He has not answered one question about this woman. What she does for a living, why he has not asked her about the law.
He says he met her Online. I wonder if she knows how old he is and if in fact they have even met.
I also cannot imagine any mother being OK with a 23 year old messing with her son and being OK with a relationship between them.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Synnen again.


That says all there needs to be said.

No you came here for affirmation of a relationship that is questionable at best. You did ask some specific legal questions, which were answered accurately.

But you are asking us to believe that a rational, reasonable 23 yr old woman, would enter into a relationship with a 16 yr old boy. And then you become surprised when people are incredulous about this.

Next lets look at your claim about age discrimination. By that logic it would be OK for a 50 yr old man to have sex with a 14 yr old girl. After all isn't that just as much age discrimination? Sorry, that argument doesn't work. We are talking exploitation not discrimination.

And lets look at your claim that you have had dated at least 40 girls. Lets say you started dating at 13. That means averaging about 1 girl per month. Not an argument for being able to know what a real relationship is about!

Do you know what a troll is on the Internet? I'm beginning to think that's what we are dealing with here.

I have to ask at this point. Since the OP mentioned it. If there wasn't discrimination of some kind then why did he reject automatically the notion of dating a 9 year old??

To OP:

There are laws to protect minors as they know not what they do. Your one of them.

We actually didnt know each others ages till a few weeks after we started taking. She wasnt looking for someone my age, it just happened to end up that way. She wouldnt be able to sign my papers, thats why Im only moving about a block from my current home with her.
Once she found out how old you were she should have backed off. That is what I don't understand. Are you going to be living with her or just near her? Do you go to school?
Has this grown woman actually agree to marry you, a minor?

With. Yes. Yes.

Danny 013 telling a member here to F off just because you don't agree with them is rude and uncalled for. You really should apologize.

So you are going to live with this woman. Does she realize that she can be arrested for what she is doing?
Does she work, what does she do? I wonder what her employer would say or do if they found out what she is doing. There are morals and ethic clauses with a lot of jobs.
Did you read any of what Synnen had to say? These are things you both need to be thinking about.
I think what this woman is doing is shameful. She ought to be arrested.

OP clearly has no respect for the rules of this site or any facts or opinions he doesn't like or agree with.

So this thread is closed.