I think I had too much fun. :D

Did we have too much to drink?

So, he was thankful about something the bartender did. Was it related to the gun? Yes.

Did the bartender protect him from someone else? No.

Was the man an alcoholic? Irrelevant.

Did the bartender know the man had a drinking problem and refused to serve him? Irrelevant.

Was the man in AA? Irrelevant.

(Was it easier when I quoted each question? Doesn't matter to me either way.)

Did we have too much to drink?


(Was it easier when I quoted each question? Doesn't matter to me either way.)

No, I'm not a big drinker.

This is fine. No need to quote each question. :)


Was the gun real? I'm wondering if it was something like a cigarette lighter, and he thanked him for the light.

Did the man get a drink?

Was the gun real? Yes.

Did the man get a drink? It's irrelevant, but there's a logic that says he did.

Good Morning, I thought this one would surely be solved already.

Nah, no one was really around over the weekend, so it hasn't gone much of anywhere.

Yea, not a happening place on the weekends. Did you have a good one?

Okey dokey. I had to miss that one - long work day. But since J-Lo's gonna be off somewhere for a couple of days, and I have tomorrow off, I'll do another. We wouldn't want QLP to go into withdrawal or anything. :eek:

This is one the main "classics" (Adam probably already found it and peaked), but a shorter one, I think.

A man walks into a bar and asks for a drink. The bartender pulls out a gun and points it at him. The man says, "Thank you," and walks out.

Sorry, I had a very busy weekend :o

When you say, "points at him", him here refers to the man and not the bartender, right?

Did anyone die?

Did the bartender hand the gun to the man?

Was the gun loaded?

Did the gun work?

Did the man drank his drink?
- Was the bartender pointing the gun all this time towards him?

Yea, not a happening place on the weekends. Did you have a good one?

I work on the weekends and it was extremely hectic. In fact, Saturday was pretty much shot altogether, and I never got to relax until last night. So we'll call that a no. (We need more help at work. It's just getting too crazy.)

When you say, "points at him", him here refers to the man and not the bartender, right? Yes, bartender points at man.

Did anyone die? No.

Did the bartender hand the gun to the man? No.

Was the gun loaded? Irrelevant.

Did the gun work? It worked for its intended purpose.

Did the man drank his drink? Irrelevant, but again there's a logic that says he did.

- Was the bartender pointing the gun all this time towards him? No.

Was there anything else the bartender did to receive the thank you?

I'm going to assume no, just to get in more questions. :D

Did the man thank the bartender for not shooting him?

Did the bartender pull the gun out as part of a joke? To scare the man? As a mistake? As a threat?

Were the police involved?

Was the man interested in buying the gun or another gun?

Was the man dazed and confused? Did the bartender snap the man back to reality by pulling out the gun?

Was there anything else the bartender did to receive the thank you? No.

I'm going to assume no, just to get in more questions. :D You assume right.

Did the man thank the bartender for not shooting him? No.

Did the bartender pull the gun out as part of a joke? As a mistake? As a threat? No.

To scare the man? Yes.

Were the police involved? No.

Was the man interested in buying the gun or another gun? No. (But what an interesting idea.)

Was the man dazed and confused? Did the bartender snap the man back to reality by pulling out the gun? No.

Whoopee - I got a Yes. :o Though I think it must be an important yes.

So why does a man ask for a drink and say thank you for being scared? The first thing that comes to mind is he had the hiccups - though a simple boo might have worked. Okay, I'll go with my gut - did he have the hiccups?

morgaine300 agrees : You got it. :-)


They always seem so obvious once you get them. :p

Ready for mine now?

I didn't say it was a brilliant one. :)

Actually, it didn't seem obvious even after I read it. Being interested in buying the gun seems more obvious and I never thought of that. But hey...

And sure, I'm ready.

Besides, if the guy had been there a few hours and was drunk out of his gourd, then maybe we needed a more drastic solution than a simple boo.

That's my guess and I'm sticking with it.

Okay, here goes. To me this one seems hard - hope it challenges everyone.

The Arm of the Postal Service

One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?

EDIT: Post #297, page 30 contains a summary thus far of the above puzzle, so that anyone new doesn't have to look through all of these posts. (There are, however, other posts and comments strewn through it.)


It was a "chain letter." :D

Er, sorry. I'm about to do dishes - I'll think (more seriously) while I'm doing them and be back in a bit.

It was a "chain letter." :D

Er, sorry. I'm about to do dishes - I'll think (more seriously) while I'm doing them and be back in a bit.

Haha. Okay, I'll go make dinner and check back later.

Was the arm flesh? (not a prosthetic)

Did the arm belong to either man?

I had to interrupt my dishes before I forgot everything running through my head:

Did he expect to receive a package?

Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part?

If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm?

Was the arm on ice?

Did he know who sent it? (Even if not personally)

Did he personally know the person who sent it?

Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials?

Did he know the (2nd) man he sent it to?

Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man?

(I just realized we've got this man 1/man 2 confusion again.)

Was the arm flesh? Yes

Did the arm belong to either man? No

Did he expect to receive a package? Yes

Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part? Yes

If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm? Yes

Was the arm on ice? Irrelevant

Did he know who sent it? Yes

Did he personally know the person who sent it? Yes

Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials? No

Did he know the (2nd) man he sent it to? Yes

Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man? Yes

(I just realized we've got this man 1/man 2 confusion again.) How about giving them names - Tom, **** and Harry :p


Okay back to making dinner. I'll check in again when I get a moment.

I'll just get confused over who is who. I'm terrible with names.

OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.

Did the arm have any reason to need to be packed on ice?

Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)?

Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it?

Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.)

Did any postal employees know what was inside the package?

Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew?

Is the person the arm came from still alive?

Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc.

Or, is there nothing left but bone?

OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.

Did the arm have any reason to need to be packed on ice? I don't think it did so I'll answer no.

Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)? Yes

Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it? No

Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.) No

Did any postal employees know what was inside the package? No

Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew? Yes

Is the person the arm came from still alive? Yes

Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc. Yes

Or, is there nothing left but bone? N/A

Hi again, I got busy sorry. I got rather confused to find questions about arms till I spotted you finished one and started another lol.

Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize?
Did he recognize it?

Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1?

Is man 1 expecting any more body parts?
Is man 2?

Did man 2 send anything to man 1?

OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.



Okay I asked my fiancé about this since he's such a mastermind. :) It probably was packed in ice so it wouldn't become a stinky mess - his words, not mine. :o

Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize? Yes
Did he recognize it? Yes

Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1? Yes

Is man 1 expecting any more body parts? No
Is man 2? No

Did man 2 send anything to man 1? No

Hi again, I got busy sorry. I got rather confused to find questions about arms till I spotted you finished one and started another lol.



That's why I post the puzzle again at the tops of new pages. It always feels a little redundant, but you never know when someone will pop in suddenly.

Okay I asked my fiance about this since he's such a mastermind. :) It probably was packed in ice so it wouldn't become a stinky mess - his words, not mine. :o

I was thinking more along the lines of preserving it a bit, but that's kind of what I thought. i.e. I was a bit trying to establish if it needed preserved in some way, or was just a skeletin. But yeah, it would get a bit on the stinky side. ;)

And by the way, the person it came from being alive just threw out several of my obviously not-so brilliant ideas.

Did the first man receive this package at his home?

Did the second man receive this package at his home?

Are these particular woods relevant?

Is the arm from a female? Male?

Is the arm from a child? Teenager? Adult?

Was the arm severed in some type of accident?

The Arm of the Postal Service

One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?


That's why I post the puzzle again at the tops of new pages. It always feels a little redundant, but you never know when someone will pop in suddenly.

I have mine set to 40 posts a page. I'll keep my eyes open and do it every 10.





I was thinking more along the lines of preserving it a bit, but that's kinda what I thought. i.e. I was a bit trying to establish if it needed preserved in some way, or was just a skeletin. But yeah, it would get a bit on the stinky side. ;)

And by the way, the person it came from being alive just threw out several of my obviously not-so brilliant ideas.

I thought you were going that way vs the stinky mess. :p

Did the first man receive this package at his home? Yes

Did the second man receive this package at his home? Yes

Are these particular woods relevant? No

Is the arm from a female? No Male? Yes

Is the arm from a child? No
Teenager? No
Adult? Yes

Was the arm severed in some type of accident? No

Okay - dinner is ready. I'll be back afterwards. :)

Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man?

Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man?

OK, we've established that "either" of the men knew the person the arm came off... so...

Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Did the second?

Was the second man's profession relevant?

That's why I post the puzzle again at the tops of new pages. It always feels a little redundant, but you never know when someone will pop in suddenly.

I have mine set to 40 posts a page. I'll keep my eyes open and do it every 10.

I can help by doing it if I'm around - I even know which post will be at the top of the page. (It's the 1, i.e. 291 is next.) I can even do summaries, considering I'm already copying it all to a file anyway.

OK, wasn't an accident.

Did someone intentional sever this arm?

Was medical science involved?

Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else?

Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.)

Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? The second man?

Are the two men related to each other?

Are the woods part of the property of the second man?

Well, you've shot down all my ideas with your answer, so I'm getting a little stumped. And I thought the relocation of an archeological find was pretty brilliant. :D

Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried?

Was any ritual associated with this burial?

Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man? Yes

Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man? No

OK, we've established that "either" of the men knew the person the arm came off... so...

Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Yes

Did the second? Yes

Was the second man's profession relevant? No

Did someone intentional sever this arm? Yes

Was medical science involved? No

Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else? Yes

Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.) Yes

Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? No
The second man? No

Are the two men related to each other? No

Are the woods part of the property of the second man? I would think so, but it's not really relevant.

Well, you've shot down all my ideas with your answer, so I'm getting a little stumped. And I thought the relocation of an archeological find was pretty brilliant. :D That is brilliant, but wrong. :D

Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? No

Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried? No

Was any ritual associated with this burial? No

Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm?

If not, did the armless man know the person who severed his arm?

(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.)

So, they all knew each other, but weren't related. Nice, happy little non-family. Okey dokey.

Were the three of them friends?

Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever)

Is it relevant why the arm got severed?

Is it relevant how the arm got severed?

Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort?

Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm? Yes

If not, did the armless man know the person who severed his arm? N/A

(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.) Who, me? :rolleyes:

So, they all knew each other, but weren't related. Nice, happy little non-family. Okey dokey.

Were the three of them friends? Not necessarily.

Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever) No.

Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes

Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.

Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort? No

The Arm of the Postal Service

One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?

(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.) Who, me? :rolleyes:

You said it, not me.


Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes

Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.

But, it's still relevant why he did it? (Seems like it would be.)

Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free?

(But then why would someone bury it in the woods. That doesn't make sense.)

Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved?

Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance?

Where's Unky? We need new questions. :eek:

Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it?

Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.)

OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct?

I don't feel like waiting on the answer, so pretending for the moment that's true, does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man?

Was confirmed earlier man 1 got instructions to send to man 2.

Did these instructions come from the armless man?

Did man 2 also get instruction to bury the arm?

If so, did those instructions come from the armless man?

But, it's still relevant why he did it? (Seems like it would be.) Yes

Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free? No

(But then why would someone bury it in the woods. That doesn't make sense.)

Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved? No

Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance? That's what I would assume.

Where's Unky? We need new questions. :eek: Yes ;)

Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it? No

Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.) Yes

OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct? That's what I would assume.

I don't feel like waiting on the answer, so pretending for the moment that's true, does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man? I don't know, so I guess that means it's irrelevant.

Was confirmed earlier man 1 got instructions to send to man 2.

Did these instructions come from the armless man? Yes

Did man 2 also get instruction to bury the arm? No

If so, did those instructions come from the armless man? N/A

Weird - I answered these before but must not have hit the submit button. That means it's bedtime after I answer again... though if tonight is like the typical night lately, I'll be up again in a couple of hours.

Where's Unky? We need new questions. :eek: Yes ;)


Are you saying I'm getting nowhere real fast? :p

Ah, but at least I'm eliminating things. (Not that it's much consolation, but it is necessary to eliminate things.) I'm beginning to believe you that this one is going to be a challenge.

As for your typical night, if you're back up in a couple of hours, I will probably still be around, at least for a bit.

I know it's not the top of a page, and this is also J-Lo's puzzle not mine, but I'm going to take it upon myself to do a summary here, just so anyone coming on new won't have to wade through all that - there's a LOT of questions already. (The organization is just how I had it in my file. Sorry if someone else doesn't like it that way.)

The Arm of the Postal Service

One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?


Was the arm flesh? (not a prosthetic) Yes.
Did the arm belong to either man? No
Was the arm on ice? Yes.
Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)? Yes
Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew? Yes.
Is the person the arm came from still alive? Yes.
Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc. Yes.
Is the arm from a female? No. Male? Yes.
Is the arm from a child? No. Teenager? No. Adult? Yes
Was the arm severed in some type of accident? No.
Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man? Yes.
Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man? No.
Did someone intentional sever this arm? Yes.
Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else? Yes.
Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.) Yes.
Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? No. The second man? No.
Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm? Yes.
Were the three of them friends? Not necessarily.
Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever) No
Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes.
Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.
But, it's still relevant why he did it? Yes.
Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort? No.
Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free? No.
Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it? No.
Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.) Yes.
Does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man? I don't know, so I guess that means it's irrelevant.

1st man:
Did he expect to receive a package? Yes.
Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part? Yes.
If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm? Yes.
Did he personally know the person who sent it? Yes.
Did he know the man he sent it to? Yes.
Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man? Yes.
Did these instructions come from the armless man? Yes.
Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it? No
Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.) No.
Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize? Yes
Did he recognize it? Yes
Is man 1 expecting any more body parts? No.
Did the first man receive this package at his home? Yes.
Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Yes.
Are the two men related to each other? No.

2nd man:
Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1? Yes.
Is man 2 expecting any more body parts? No.
Did man 2 send anything to man 1? No.
Did the second man receive this package at his home? Yes.
Did the second man know the person the arm came off? Yes.
Was the second man's profession relevant? No.
Are the two men related to each other? No.
Did man 2 also get instruction to bury the arm? No.


Are these particular woods relevant? No.
Are the woods part of the property of the second man? I would think so, but it's not really relevant.
Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? No.
Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried? No.
Was any ritual associated with this burial? No.


Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials? No
Did any postal employees know what was inside the package? No.
Was medical science involved? No.
Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved? No.
Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance? That's what I would assume.
OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct? That's what I would assume.

OK, so armless man severs his own arm. He sends it to man 1 and instructs him to send it along to man 2. But man 2 is not instructed to bury it?

Have I got that right?

Did man 2 just bury it of his own free will then?

Did anything relevant happen between when man 1 got the arm and when he sent it to man 2?

Did anything relevant happen between when man 2 got the arm and when he buried it?

I admit I'm completely stumped at this point. But you're off in bed, so I'll do something else and think upon it a while

I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek:

Was the arm infected by something?

Is the job of Man 1 relevant?
- Is he a physicist?
- Is he a morgue doctor? ('medecin legiste'... I forgot the technical name if that's not it)

Was the arm carrying some disease?

Was it dangerous?

Was the 'armless' man someone who worked with biohazards?
- Some biological experiments?
- Was he a volunteer for drug testing?

Yea! someone else is here. I ran out of ideas and am just asking junk for the sake of asking.

And it's a mortician. ;) (A little similar to Morticia, but not quite the same.)


I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek:

Not at the rate we're going.

OK, so armless man severs his own arm. He sends it to man 1 and instructs him to send it along to man 2. But man 2 is not instructed to bury it? There is nothing in the solution that tells me man 2 was instructed to bury it.

Have I got that right? Yes

Did man 2 just bury it of his own free will then? That's how I read it. I don't see anything special in the act of burying the arm, except that stinky mess thing. :p

Did anything relevant happen between when man 1 got the arm and when he sent it to man 2? No

Did anything relevant happen between when man 2 got the arm and when he buried it? No

I admit I'm completely stumped at this point. But you're off in bed, so I'll do something else and think upon it a while Well, as usual, I'm awake for a while now.

I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek: We were waiting for you, Unky. ;)

Was the arm infected by something? No

Is the job of Man 1 relevant? No- Is he a physicist? No- Is he a morgue doctor? No ('medecin legiste'... I forgot the technical name if that's not it)

Was the arm carrying some disease? No

Was it dangerous? No

Was the 'armless' man someone who worked with biohazards? No- Some biological experiments? No- Was he a volunteer for drug testing? No

Yea!, someone else is here. I ran out of ideas and am just asking junk for the sake of asking.

And it's a mortician. ;) (A little similar to Morticia, but not quite the same.)



Not at the rate we're going.

Thanks for doing the summary. I like the way you arranged it.

Yeah, this one is difficult. I thought so, but every time you ask a question - even when you get a No - I'm thinking... oh, she'll get it. I'm glad it's not too easy. :)

Hm... okay.

Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm?
Would someone kill him if he had not sever his arm?

Was the arm buried because it was then useless?

Did Man 1 expect the arm to be as he examined it?

Is there anything abnormal about the arm besides having been severed?

Did Man 2 examine the arm in the same way as Man 1 did?

Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm? No

Would someone kill him if he had not sever his arm? I don't think so, but it is in the realm of possibilities.

Was the arm buried because it was then useless? I think that must be true.

Did Man 1 expect the arm to be as he examined it? Yes

Is there anything abnormal about the arm besides having been severed? No

Did Man 2 examine the arm in the same way as Man 1 did? Yes, though examine might be a strong word.

Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm? No

Unky, I think I may have read this question wrong. There was nothing physically about the arm that would have killed him - that is not why he severed it. He would not have died of natural causes if the arm was left on until he was old. I don't know how old he is now.

I was trying to find out why it was severed, as it hasn't been established yet. And I still have no clue as to the reason behind it... I was thinking as about an infection, or something of the sort.

Was the armless man ill in any relevant way?
Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to?
Did the armless man want to know if he could have his arm attacked to him again?
Did the armless man got his arm severed at work? At home? Another relevant place?

Ok, I need to go now. See you later :)

I was trying to find out why it was severed, as it hasn't been established yet. And I still have no clue as to the reason behind it... I was thinking as about an infection, or something of the sort.

Was the armless man ill in any relevant way? No

Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to? Hmmm ... how do I answer this? I would say he did it of his own free will, but some more questions along this line may help you.

Did the armless man want to know if he could have his arm attacked to him again? No, he didn't want to have it attached again.

Did the armless man got his arm severed at work? At home? Another relevant place? Where he got his arm severed is not relevant.

Ok, I need to go now. See you later :) Okay. Have a good day.

I don't think this point is important, but I was just reading over the solution again. At first I thought the armless man severed his arm, but the solution reads that he had it amputated. Slight difference - he had it done vs his doing it himself. Could you even do it yourself?

Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to? Hmmm ... how do I answer this? I would say he did it of his own free will, but some more questions along this line may help you.
I'm a little troubled about how I answered this - definitely needs more questions.

Did man 2 have the normal number of body parts?
Did man 3?
Was man 1 paid to have his arm removed?
Was man 1 blackmailed to have his arm removed?

QLP - We are identifying the men as:

Man 1 - first man to receive the arm
Man 2 - second man to receive the arm
Man 3 - We've been calling him the armless man.

Can you re-ask your questions based on this? You've got some insightful questions here.

Okay, I am really tired again, so back to bed. I'll be on in a couple of hours.

Sorry, ok:

Did man 1 have the normal number of body parts?
Did man 2?
Was man 3 paid to have his arm removed?
Was man 3 blackmailed to have his arm removed?

Sorry, ok:

Did man 1 have the normal number of body parts? No
Did man 2? No
Was man 3 paid to have his arm removed? No
Was man 3 blackmailed to have his arm removed? No

Turns out I still can't sleep. It's going to be a long day. :(

Were Man 1 and Man 2 also one-armed?

Were all three men together when both Man 1 and Man 2 lost their arm?

Were they, in fact, in a shipwreck (or similar) and cut one arm off each man for food, but were rescued before needing to do so by the third man? Did he send/sacrifice his arm because their arm sacrifices kept all three of them alive? Was the examination simply to verify that the arm came from Man 3?

(yeah, I know--I went weird again. But that scenario popped into my head, and I had to go with it)

Would Man 3 gain anything in having his arm amputated?
Would any of Man 1 or Man 2 benefit it?
Was Man 3 amputated as a form of punishment?
Does Man 1 usually examine body parts of people?
Has Man 2 ever done similar things before? (ie received, examine and buried body parts)
Is Man 3 kept captive?

Were Man 1 and Man 2 also one-armed? Yes

Were all three men together when both Man 1 and Man 2 lost their arm? Yes

Were they, in fact, in a shipwreck (or similar) and cut one arm off each man for food, but were rescued before needing to do so by the third man? Did he send/sacrifice his arm because their arm sacrifices kept all three of them alive? Was the examination simply to verify that the arm came from Man 3? Yes, Yes, Yes

(yeah, I know--I went weird again. But that scenario popped into my head, and I had to go with it) Well, this time you got it. I think I even referred to the puzzle as weird.

Wow, good job Synn! :)

Would Man 3 gain anything in having his arm amputated? Not really - except he kept his word.

Would any of Man 1 or Man 2 benefit it? Only in the sense they were getting what Man 3 sweared by oath to do.

Was Man 3 amputated as a form of punishment? No

Does Man 1 usually examine body parts of people? Haha - so many things I could say, but no.

Has Man 2 ever done similar things before? (ie received, examine and buried body parts) No

Is Man 3 kept captive? No

Synnen got it, but I'll answer these anyway. I'm glad in that your questions were kind of hard to answer, but now that you know the puzzle they make sense.

It disturbs me a lot when some of the weird things that come to me turn out to be the answer... I mean, really... what does that say about me?

It disturbs me a lot when some of the weird things that come to me turn out to be the answer...I mean, really...what does that say about me?

We won't tell anyone. :p Oh wait... I know... it's just because we've done a few of these puzzles and we know they are strange. Nothing to do with your mind at all.

The official solution:
The three men had been stranded on a desert island. Desperate for food, they had agreed to amputate their left arms in order to eat them. They swore an oath that each would have his left arm cut off. One of them was a doctor and he cut the arms off his two companions. They were then rescued. But his oath was still binding so he later had to have his arm amputated and sent to his colleagues.

This is often told with a further twist whereby a doctor pays a tramp a large sum in order to amputate the tramp's arm which the doctor then sends to another man who inspects it etc. This variation can make for a long night of questioning!

Can you imagine how much tougher that variation would be?

Wow what a guess Syn, well done.

I believe you had a third one of these? Did you want to do it?

Sorry, I was at a client's office most of today so I haven't been in here. I think this is an easier one:


A man is alone on an island with no food and no water, yet he does not fear for his life. Why not?

Is the island Manhatten? ;)

Is the island Manhatten? ;)

No.

I would be amazed if you got it on your first guess. Second maybe. :)

Was it a curb island in a parking lot?

Was it a curb island in a parking lot?

No

A median, or other traffic-type island?

A median, or other traffic-type island?

Yes. Really, that's it for this puzzle. It's a traffic island. Kind of nice to have an easy one once in a while. :D

Yes. Really, that's it for this puzzle. It's a traffic island. Kind of nice to have an easy one once in a while. :D

Yea, I don't have a tough one in me after getting up at 4:00 A.M. every morning.

Actually, that's the kind that would stump me. All of these puzzles thus far have been the variety whereby there isn't any type of word-play type thing like that involved, as in, you can just take what it says at face value. (Though the statements can still be misleading.) So I would have taken island to be an island.

But then, that was the kind where you don't have to ask a bunch of questions - you just try to guess it.

Got any more up your sleeve?

I also lied to Unky earlier. It's not a mortician. That's the person who fixes up the body. It's a coroner you want, the medical guy in the morgue.

How about a change of pace? This isn't a "yes", "no" puzzle - just a logic puzzle.

A train goes between Chicago and New York. The brakeman, the fireman and the engineer are named Smith, Jones and Brown. (The names are not necessarily in order). There are also three passengers named Mr. Smith, Mr. Jones and Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown lives in New York. The brakeman lives halfway between New York and Chicago. Mr. Jones earns exactly $20,000 per year. Smith beat the fireman at their last game of golf. The passenger who lives in Chicago has the same name as the brakeman. The brakeman's next door neighbor is a passenger on this train and earns exactly three times as much as the brakeman. What is the name of the engineer?

Smith. And no I'm not just guessing.

Smith. And no I'm not just guessing.

I knew you'd get it but I thought it might take longer. :)

I don't think I'll be here much tonight. "Someone" wants some attention. I'll see if I can find another puzzle later.

Actually, it took me like 5-10 minutes. I've been doing those logic puzzles my whole life. (Although I've never seen one that had a math trick as a clue.)

Deleted - sorry, changed my mind. :)

OK, since J-Lo is not wanting to commit at this very second, I'll throw some in. The following came from a list of "tricky" ones, except that I answered most of them correctly the first time, within about 30 seconds. So these are not yes and no ones... assuming anyone is alive out there, they shouldn't take long.

Adults are holding children, waiting their turn. The children are handed (one at a time, usually) to a man, who holds them while a woman shoots them. If the child is crying, the man tries to stop the crying before the child is shot.

A cabin, locked from the inside, is perched on the side of a mountain. It is forced open, and thirty people are found dead inside. They had plenty of food and water.

A man marries twenty women in his village but isn't charged with polygamy.

A woman came home with a bag of groceries, got the mail, and walked into the house. On the way to the kitchen, she went through the living room and looked at her husband, who had blown his brains out. She continued to the kitchen, put away the groceries, and made dinner

A man is found dead in the arctic with a pack on his back.

A train pulls into a station, but none of the waiting passengers move.

And lastly:
A young woman is whisked away to a far off land, where she kills the first person she meets. Then she teams up with three others to kill again.

Since those won't last long, I'll post a harder one. This one has two alternatives - one of them is easy and fairly obvious and I guessed it quickly too. (I also head it years ago.) So we're going to use the alternative answer because this'll require more figuring out.

A rope breaks. A bell rings. A man dies.

1. The children are getting their vaccination..

2. They died of suffocation while they were sleeping?

3. This is an African village or an Arabic/Islamic country?

4. " who had blown his brains out" that I do not understand the slang in here :(

5. The man got tired, fell down and froze to death?

6. The train is full... or the train has a notice saying it's under repair...

7. An extremist who hates men?

8. The man is being executed (guillotine)?

1. The children are getting their vaccination..

Yup. Well, any type of shot at the doctor's. Another version is getting their photo "shot" with Santa.



2. They died of suffocation while they were sleeping?

Nope.


3. This is an African village or an Arabic/Islamic country?

No unusual cultures going on here.


4. " who had blown his brains out" that I do not understand the slang in here :(

i.e. with a gun - suicide


5. The man got tired, fell down and froze to death?
6. The train is full... or the train has a notice saying it's under repair...

Nope.


7. An extremist who hates men?

I realized after I posted it that this one might be hard, and one of the ones I didn't get. If no one gets this, it might require questions. We'll see.

Actually, all of these are like trick questions. They're all very logical but sound funny. Think like how the first one is.


8. The man is being executed (guillotine)?

Is this supposed to be the one in the separate thread? That's one you'll have to do questions on - I wasn't sure how fast the first set would get solved, so I threw that in. I can't be back (probably) for a good 13-14 hours from now (unless I get an unexpected break), so you can take off on any of these you want.

A cabin, locked from the inside, is perched on the side of a mountain. It is forced open, and thirty people are found dead inside. They had plenty of food and water.

The cabin was taken by an avalanche and they froze to death?


A man marries twenty women in his village but isn't charged with polygamy.

The man has been divorcing between each marriage?


A woman came home with a bag of groceries, got the mail, and walked into the house. On the way to the kitchen, she went through the living room and looked at her husband, who had blown his brains out. She continued to the kitchen, put away the groceries, and made dinner

She already knew her husband was dead?


A man is found dead in the arctic with a pack on his back.

This man was parachuting when a strong wind blew him in the middle of the Arctic. The old winds being too heavy, he started falling down and died on impact.


A train pulls into a station, but none of the waiting passengers move.

The train doesn't have passenger compartments?


And lastly:
A young woman is whisked away to a far off land, where she kills the first person she meets. Then she teams up with three others to kill again.

It's a movie :p


A rope breaks. A bell rings. A man dies.

Did those happen in the order you gave them?
Is the bell attached to the man?
Is the man attached to the rope?
Are there relevant people involved?

1. Vaccinations
2. Plane crash
3. The man is a priest/reverend
4. She looks at a photograph
5. Parachute didn't open
6. Model train?
7. The Wizard of Oz
8. The man is climbing Mt Everest, and his supporting rope breaks. A bell was tied to his pack and it rang as he fell. Hitting the ground far below, he dies.

1. Vaccinations
2. Plane crash
3. The man is a priest/reverend

All correct.


4. She looks at a photograph

No but along the right lines.


5. Parachute didn't open

That was a different puzzle. ;)


6. Model train?
7. The Wizard of Oz

Yup. I didn't get that last thing at all. This came out of a set that can have "unrealistic" answers, but I wasn't thinking about that.

So 4 is close. 5 - parachute too obvious.


8. The man is climbing Mt Everest, and his supporting rope breaks. A bell was tied to his pack and it rang as he fell. Hitting the ground far below, he dies.

No. But I'll get to your set of questions in a minute.

Oh, I'm confused. I don't know why I thought Unky's last post was Synnen. When I saw the second post, I thought she changed her guesses.

Tired. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.

(Unky's post)
As to dead hubby, yeah she already knew he was dead but...

Did you know which movie? (Am I the only one who didn't get that one?)

Bell:
Did those happen in the order you gave them? Yes.

Is the bell attached to the man? No.

Is the man attached to the rope? No.

Are there relevant people involved? Only the man.

Arctic - he's a cave man and was caught in a glacier?

Shopping woman - She had him stuffed and put in his favorite chair?

Rope/bell/dead - He's leaning against a cordon keeping back the crowd, the rope of the cordon breaks, he falls forward just as the bell to start a horserace rings and is trampled to death by the horses.

No to all, although the shopping woman is still along the right lines.

The woman's husband didn't die... but is now a vegetable?

Arctic--is the pack his? Does it contain survival gear?

The woman's husband didn't die... but is now a vegetable?

Getting colder again. He's dead.



Arctic--is the pack his? Does it contain survival gear?

No and no.

Is it a sculpture?

Is the pack a play on words? As in, it's not a backpack, but a pack of dogs or wolves or bears?

Is it a sculpture?

No, but getting warmer again. You've had the right idea about 3 times and just aren't hitting on it.


Is the pack a play on words? As in, it's not a backpack, but a pack of dogs or wolves or bears?

You got it. Wolves to be exact.

His ashes?

Oh, I see I find it "helpful" now instead of agreeing. How nice.

Anyway... I thought of that immediately, but maybe cause I have a cat in an urn on my mantle.

Okay, do we have an answer for the rope/bell/dead yet?

It seems not...

Did the die as he fell down?
Did he die at ground level? Above ground level?
Was he on an elevated place before dying?
Is the bell an electric bell?
Is the bell anywhere within 1 m from the man?

No, we haven't solve it yet. We have thus far:

A rope breaks. A bell rings. A man dies.


Did those happen in the order you gave them? Yes.

Is the bell attached to the man? No.

Is the man attached to the rope? No.

Are there relevant people involved? Only the man.

Did the die as he fell down? Yes.

Did he die at ground level? Above ground level? Um... I guess I'll have to call it ground level.

Was he on an elevated place before dying? Yes.

Is the bell an electric bell? No.

Is the bell anywhere within 1 m from the man? Yes.

Did he die in a city?
- In a remote area otherwise?

Was the breaking of the rope the cause of his fall?

Was the rope attached to the bell?

Did he die in a city? No.
- In a remote area otherwise? Oh, highly possible.

Was the breaking of the rope the cause of his fall? No.

Was the rope attached to the bell? Not directly.

Is the man a mountain climber?
Was the man flying before falling down?
Was he running at any point before falling down?

Did the bell fall on the man? The rope holding the bell broke, and it fell and crushed the man?

For anyone new coming on, just start at post #357.

Is the man a mountain climber? No.

Was the man flying before falling down? No.

Was he running at any point before falling down? Not likely.

Did the bell fall on the man? The rope holding the bell broke, and it fell and crushed the man?

Although that is one answer, that's the easier "popular" version I spoke of when I first posted this. This is a different version to make it more fun. Though I don't think this one is difficult, I do think that to just guess it without the questions would require some imagination. (Though some around here do have quite a bit of imagination.)

But credit for solving an answer - just not my answer. :D

(Okay, I'm among the living again - almost. I feel better, just not good yet. :o)

Was the bell attached to the rope?

The elevated place:
Was it a set of stairs? A balcony? A rooftop? Part of a building? A mountain?
A hill? Some type of land formation?

Did the man see the rope break? Did he hear the bell ring?

Is it true that the man fell from some elevated area, hit the ground below, and that is what caused his death? Was the rope meant as a barrier (I'm sure there's a better word, but I can't think of it) to falling off whatever type of elevation is in question?

Yep, I was thinking about that, but the fact that the man wasn't in some city but in a 'remote place' removed that possibility. However, I just thought about some big bell in a remote place... though that's not so common...

But let's try it.

Is the bell bigger than the man?
Did the bell crush the man?
Did the rope cause his death?
Was the man handling the rope?
Did the man fall on the bell? :p

(Okay, I'm among the living again - almost. I feel better, just not good yet. :o)

Hey, welcome back. I was just thinking about you a couple of hours ago and wondering how you were doing.

Was the bell attached to the rope? Not directly.

The elevated place:

Was it a set of stairs? A balcony? A rooftop? Part of a building? No.

A mountain? A hill? Maybe.

Some type of land formation? Yes.

Did the man see the rope break? No.

Did he hear the bell ring? Yes.

Is it true that the man fell from some elevated area, hit the ground below, and that is what caused his death? Yes.

Was the rope meant as a barrier (I'm sure there's a better word, but I can't think of it) to falling off whatever type of elevation is in question? No.

But let's try it.

Try again.:D

Is the bell bigger than the man? I wouldn't think so.
Did the bell crush the man? No.
Did the rope cause his death? No.
Was the man handling the rope? No.
Did the man fall on the bell? :p No. [/QUOTE]

Does what the man did relevant?
- Was it some sport?
- Was it some rescue?
- Was it for leisure?

Does what the man did relevant? Yes.
- Was it some sport? No
- Was it some rescue? No
- Was it for leisure? Yes.

Current puzzle: start at post #357, pg 36.

The rope holding the goat broke, and the bell on his collar rang as he ran at the man and butted him off the cliff.

Is it relevant what type of land formation, or only that he fell off it to his death?

Is the bell from an alarm clock? A fire alarm? A car alarm? Some other type of alarm? A bell ringing to tell time? A bell from a church?

Are you saying it is relevant what the man does for a living? Or is it relevant what the man was doing at the time?

Some sort of leisure: Was he walking? Running? Riding a bike? Going for a drive? Meditating? Was he a tourist? Was he eating? Was he hunting? Was he bird watching? Golfing? Skiing? Girl watching? Was it a beach outing? Playing a game of some sort?

Okay, back to bed.

Lol JLo :p

Was there any natural catastrophe involved?
- Tornado?
- Earthquake?
- Landslide?

Is there an animal involved?
- A horse?
- A wolf?
- Many animals?

Did the man slip at any point before falling?

A sailor was swept overboard, forcing him to swim to shore. He was swimming toward the sound of a buoy bell, in the bay. The rope ancoring the bell broke, setting the buoy adrift, causing the man to swim out to sea, following the sound of the bell. He drowns at sea.

Ooooh... I think JMJ is right here.

But... but... wasn't the man was on an elevated place? On some landscape like a mountain or a hill? Some rope broke, before the ball rang? :confused:

Fell off a cliff into the ocean and followed the buoy bell?

Then his death is no more cause by falling down, but by drowning... :confused:

This is true.

Dammit! The drowning was better than my goat theory!

Getting close though guys...

Fell off a cliff into the ocean and followed the buoy bell?

I think she's got it. Did he die from the fall off a cliff, following the sound of a wayward buoy?

You said "close". This has to be it.

I think she's got it. Did he die from the fall off of a cliff, following the sound of a wayward bouy?

You said "close". This has to be it.

Sounds good to me. I guess the only question is why he didn't see he was at the edge of the cliff. Was he drunk? Was the fog too thick? Was he blind? Was he crazy? Blindfolded? Was it during the night?

Well, all the discussion on wrong answers have been a source of amusement, and much creativity going on. Adam is correct that some ideas are getting close, but I won't say which ones. :D I'll just go answer the questions and maybe that will shed light (or not).

It was Mr. Bell, with the Rope, on the cliff?

Is it relevant what type of land formation, or only that he fell off it to his death? It's relevant for the setting.

Is the bell from an alarm clock? A fire alarm? A car alarm? Some other type of alarm? A bell ringing to tell time? A bell from a church? None of the above.

Are you saying it is relevant what the man does for a living? No.
Or is it relevant what the man was doing at the time? Yes.

Some sort of leisure: Was he walking? Yes.

Running? Riding a bike? Going for a drive? Meditating? Was he a tourist? Was he hunting? Was he bird watching? Golfing? Skiing? Girl watching? No.

Was he eating? Irrelevant but probably not.

Was it a beach outing? Playing a game of some sort? No.

Was there any natural catastrophe involved? - Tornado? -Earthquake? - Landslide? No.

Is there an animal involved? - A horse? - A wolf? - Many animals? No.

Did the man slip at any point before falling? Possibly.

JMJ gets points for creativity on his "man overboard" answer, but Unky was right about the falling.

I think she's got it. Did he die from the fall off a cliff, following the sound of a wayward buoy?

Was this a real question or a guess at the answer? As an answer, not there.

As two questions:
Did he die from the fall off a cliff? Yes.

... following the sound of a wayward buoy? Yes, but I think there are better words than "following."

I guess the only question is why he didn't see he was at the edge of the cliff.

Was he drunk? Was the fog too thick? Was it during the night? Irrelevant.

Was he blind? Yes.

Was he crazy? Maybe a little. :D

Blindfolded? No.


That set probably about did it. So who's around to put the final together and get the prize?

I'll take a stab at it, but only if I can share the prize. :) Plus, I know you want to get started on a new one.

A blind man was walking along a cliff. He got confused as to where he was because he typically used the sound of the bell on the buoy to judge his distance from the edge of the cliff. Since the rope of the buoy broke it was drifting further from shore, so he walked off the edge of the cliff.

Apparently I need to spread some rep but...

Oh wait, I hope there's some appreciation for me throwing up while I go into the new skin to do this, but I'll be back in a minute...

Ding! Ding! Ding!

While Morgaine is spreading the rep, I'll post the next puzzle. I have to run to an attorney's office for one of my clients, so I'll be gone for a couple of hours. Have I ever mentioned that attorneys are not necessarily my favorite people? :confused:


When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

SHIVERS!

That was absolutely NOT worth the joke to write Ding, Ding, Ding. Sheesh, I couldn't even find the post. Unky, if you're using that new skin all the time, I understand why you can't find anything. I had to put it on "newest" and then it's all backwards, and when I put it on "oldest" (expecting the end to be at the, well you know, the end), it wasn't there and I couldn't find it.

WHAT'S WITH THAT?

Not something I've yet experienced and that's even more horrid than this comment thing. OK, more junk to add to my list. Ain't no one could explain to me how that even comes close to working right.

SHIVERS again!!

(Sorry for the rant in the middle of this, but that was a horrifying experience! )

(Darn, I should've gotten a screenshot of that mess while I was there.)

The official answer:

A blind man enjoys walking near a cliff and uses the sound of a buoy to gauge his distance from the edge. One day the buoy's anchor rope breaks, allowing the buoy to drift away from the shore. When it rings, the man thinks he's further away from the edge than he is, walks over it, and falls to his death.

So yours was pretty much right on. Yes, you can share in the prize, and I've just decided the prize is getting rid of the new skin. :rolleyes:

I'd help with the thowup... But ewwww. :)

Rotflmo!

When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

The death of his sister made him completely lose his mind?? :p

Seriously, I have some stuff to do as well, so I'll cook up some questions while I'm off. And no, I've never heard that attorneys aren't your favorite people. Some of them are actually OK, and unfortunately the bad ones give them all a bad name.

Okay. Here goes.

Ned hated his sister. When he found out that she was dying, he was really happy. Except... since he was an estate lawyer, he knew he wasn't going to get a penny of her money unless he was really poor and needed it. SO! He quit his job working for the rich and famous and went back to his small town in Connecticut to take care of his dying sister and scam her out of as much money as possible. Since he had to have a job to be in her good graces, he got a job as close to the hospital as possible so that he could monitor how soon he could throw his celebratory party.

I so far have not found any creative way to connect these events. Are we assuming this one requires questions?

Synn, you really do have the most interesting imagination.

When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

The death of his sister made him completely lose his mind??? :p

Seriously, I have some stuff to do as well, so I'll cook up some questions while I'm off. And no, I've never heard that attorneys aren't your favorite people. Some of them are actually OK, and unfortunately the bad ones give them all a bad name.

No - but of course you knew that.

Well, the attorney I had to visit is one of the better ones - but then he's my client's attorney. The other side's attorneys in this case are despicable. :mad: Vultures. Liars. Scum.


Okay then...


Okay. Here goes.

Ned hated his sister. When he found out that she was dying, he was really happy. Except...since he was an estate lawyer, he knew he wasn't going to get a penny of her money unless he was really poor and needed it. SO!! He quit his job working for the rich and famous and went back to his small town in Connecticut to take care of his dying sister and scam her out of as much money as possible. Since he had to have a job to be in her good graces, he got a job as close to the hospital as possible so that he could monitor how soon he could throw his celebratory party.

You really do have a great imagination. :)

Morgaine, this is one of the puzzles that I mentioned took 70-90 questions to answer. I bet you all will get it more quickly than that, but I think it will take many questions. I hope.

Well, the attorney I had to visit is one of the better ones - but then he's my client's attorney. The other side's attorneys in this case are despicable. :mad: Vultures. Liars. Scum.

Yup, unfortunately many of those do exist. I wouldn't want to have to deal with one, and I think I'd hate it even more if it were in the capacity of my job cause then I'd have to behave myself. :D


Morgaine, this is one of the puzzles that I mentioned took 70-90 questions to answer. I bet you all will get it more quickly than that, but I think it will take many questions. I hope.

Ah. Well, I like having a good challenge as well. I like a variety, really. OK, I have some questions started but not too many. Let's see what else I can come up with.

(I take it that Synn's answer wasn't it, or you wouldn't be still posting.)

Sorry, I didn't make it clear but Synn's answer wasn't it. I took it as more of a joke about lawyers.

Is the cause of his sister's dying relevant?

Did he leave another job to take this one?

Are any of his prior jobs relevant to this situation?

Was his sister married?

Did any relatives (including inlaws) work at the used car lot?

Had he ever sold cars before?

Ned is an adult, correct?

Is his approximate age relevant?

Is his sister a child? Teen? Adult?

Are their parents divorced? (I don't know where that came from, but hey you never know.)

Did he move to take the job?

Is his sister in a hospital?

Sorry, I didn't make it clear but Synn's answer wasn't it. I took it as more of a joke about lawyers.

That went right over my head. Maybe I should just go back to bed. :rolleyes:

Is the cause of his sister's dying relevant? No

Did he leave another job to take this one? Unknown

Are any of his prior jobs relevant to this situation? No

Was his sister married? Yes

Did any relatives (including inlaws) work at the used car lot? No

Had he ever sold cars before? Unknown, but I don't think so.

Ned is an adult, correct? Yes

Is his approximate age relevant? No

Is his sister a child? No Teen? No Adult? Yes

Are their parents divorced? (I don't know where that came from, but hey you never know.) Unknown

Did he move to take the job? No

Is his sister in a hospital? Unknown

Is sister sane?

Do these two live in the same town?

Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.)

Is Ned married?

Are their parents still alive?

Did the sister have any kids?

Does Ned have any kids?

Are there other siblings of Ned and sis?

Is sister sane? Yes

Do these two live in the same town? Most likely

Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) yes

Is Ned married? Unknown

Are their parents still alive? Unknown

Did the sister have any kids? I would have to guess no.

Does Ned have any kids? Unknown

Are there other siblings of Ned and sis? I would have to guess no.

Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) yes

Well, since the cause of the death isn't relevant, if you answered this one no, I was going to proceed with tearing my hair out already. ;)

At least this now gives me a start on something to think about...

Do Ned and sis's hubby get along?

Is sis's hubby dying as well?

Is anyone else dying?

Is sis Ned's current boss (dying notwithstanding)?

Does sis have a will?

Do Ned and sis's hubby get along? Unknown

Is sis's hubby dying as well? No

Is anyone else dying? No

Is sis Ned's current boss (dying notwithstanding)? No

Does sis have a will? Yes

Is hubby in the will?

Is Ned in the will?

Is anyone else named in the will?

Did sis leave Ned a used car business? :D

Is a really scummy attorney involved in any way? :eek:

Is hubby in the will? Yes

Is Ned in the will? Yes

Is anyone else named in the will? No

Did sis leave Ned a used car business? :D No

Haha, you added one:

Is a really scummy attorney involved in any way? No

Sorry. I added it immediately and didn't think I'd get caught.

Did Ned get something in the will?
Did he get requested to do something in the will?
Did hubby get something in the will?
Did hubby get requested to do something in the will?

Is Ned planning to work at any particular car dealership?

Did Ned get something in the will? Yes (going with the intent of the question - but does would be better than did in all these questions)

Did he get requested to do something in the will? No

Did hubby get something in the will? Yes

Did hubby get requested to do something in the will? No

Is Ned planning to work at any particular car dealership? No

...

Is the bell anywhere within 1 m from the man? Yes.

I guess that this one is false then :rolleyes:
But true for the 'easier' problem.

T_T
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As for the next one...
Do Ned and his sister share some particular thing that most people don't have?
Is Ned getting something more than hubby? Less? Same?
Is Ned jealous of hubby?

Good morning, Unky. :)


Do Ned and his sister share some particular thing that most people don't have? No
Is Ned getting something more than hubby? No Less? No Same? Yes
Is Ned jealous of hubby? Hmmm ... jealous? I'm not sure that's the way I would word it, but possibly.

Good evening JLo :)

Hm... he is perhaps possessive?
Ned wants to get everything in his sister's will?
Does hubby need a car?
Did hubby and Ned challenged each other over some silly bet?

Is the bell anywhere within 1 m from the man? Yes.

I guess that this one is false then :rolleyes:
But true for the 'easier' problem.



I actually thought about that one for a while. I almost said "perhaps," but I would never have said "no" cause it's actually unknown where the bell is, and where it may have drifted to. I thought that was getting a bit far for someone to hear it, but I could be wrong on that. (That would put it the distance from the house where I grew up to the school I went to, and I'm having a hard time imagining hearing a bell from that distance.)

I've done a lot of traveling and most definitely have seen bueys within a fairly short distance from a shore, so that can't be it. Maybe I should have stuck with my "perhaps" answer.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone answered in a fashion that may have been wrong or misleading. I didn't agree with some other answers I've seen either. But, I don't mind you saying something - I do try to be careful, so if someone thinks something is wrong, so say.

Hm... he is perhaps possessive? No
Ned wants to get everything in his sister's will? Yes
Does hubby need a car? No
Did hubby and Ned challenged each other over some silly bet? No

I actually thought about that one for a while. I almost said "perhaps," but I would never have said "no" cause it's actually unknown where the bell is, and where it may have drifted to. I thought that was getting a bit far for someone to hear it, but I could be wrong on that. (That would put it the distance from the house where I grew up to the school I went to, and I'm having a hard time imagining hearing a bell from that distance.)

I've done a lot of traveling and most definitely have seen bueys within a fairly short distance from a shore, so that can't be it. Maybe I should have stuck with my "perhaps" answer.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone answered in a fashion that may have been wrong or misleading. I didn't agree with some other answers I've seen either. But, I don't mind you saying something - I do try to be careful, so if someone thinks something is wrong, go ahead and so say.

I wonder if you are thinking 1 mile and Unky means 1 meter.

Hm...

Is the something in the will money?
Does Ned want to make hubby buy a car to get the money?

Did Ned get something in the will? Yes (going with the intent of the question - but does would be better than did in all these questions)


I'm not understanding your meaning there. Intent was pretty much as you'd expect: got money, estate, insurance, stock, whatever. (Not sure what other intent there would be.) I was trying to distinguish him as the recipient of something versus (and/or) having some other request made of him (such as becoming guardian of a child - though I didn't know what it would be).

And not sure what "but does would be better than did in all these questions" was supposed to be. Might check your coffee level there. :p

OK. So how about, was Ned envious of hubby or hubby's inheritance? (Since you didn't like the word jealous. Or you don't like "envious" either?)

Does Ned feel something other than sisterly love for his sister? (I really am sane, really I am. Sorry, it just popped in my head.)

It's okay :) I wanted to pick on you a little ;)

Now why would you want to go and do that? I never pick on you. Ever. Really, Never, ever. I'd never even consider it. I'm a wonderful little person who never picks on anyone. I'm totally innocent.

Check you sleep level morgaine :D

What JLo means was that you use the present tense instead of the past tense, because the sister of Ned isn't dead yet. :)

With those questions of yours with all sorts of weird things, that is what pushed me to pick on you once :p

I wonder if you are thinking 1 mile and Unky means 1 meter.

Oh well hell. Been online with people all over the world many years - you'd think I'd know better. But metric just did not even occur to me.

Well - you're right. That would be a bad answer. ;)

Check you sleep level morgaine :D

What JLo means was that you use the present tense instead of the past tense, because the sister of Ned isn't dead yet. :)

With those questions of yours with all sorts of weird things, that is what pushed me to pick on you once :p

Oh well hell again. It would have helped if she'd said, but "does" would be better than "did" in all these questions" It just sounded like some weirdo typing thing going on.

OK, now that we're all done misinterpreting each other. :D

So Ned wants everything. Rather selfish of him, considering hubby is, after all, hubby.

Did Ned want some particular item?

Morgaine, I've been curious. What time zone are you in? I'm always imagining it's really late where you are.


Hm...

Is the something in the will money? Yes
Does Ned want to make hubby buy a car to get the money? No


I'm not understanding your meaning there. Intent was pretty much as you'd expect: got money, estate, insurance, stock, whatever. (Not sure what other intent there would be.) I was trying to distinguish him as the recipient of something versus (and/or) having some other request made of him (such as becoming guardian of a child - though I didn't know what it would be).

And not sure what "but does would be better than did in all these questions" was supposed to be. Might check your coffee level there. :p
Unky is right. It was a question of tense. I could have been clearer.

OK. So how about, was Ned envious of hubby or hubby's inheritance? (Since you didn't like the word jealous. Or you don't like "envious" either?) I don't like "envious" either. There's a better word for what Ned is.

Does Ned feel something other than sisterly love for his sister? (I really am sane, really I am. Sorry, it just popped in my head.)No - ewwwww. It really is late. :p


Now why would you wanna go and do that? I never pick on you. Ever. Really, Never, ever. I'd never even consider it. I'm a wonderful little person who never picks on anyone. I'm totally innocent. I could tell that about you right away. Don't feel bad - no one ever believes I'm innocent either. :rolleyes:


Oh well hell again. It would have helped if she'd said, but "does" would be better than "did" in all these questions" It just sounded like some weirdo typing thing going on.

OK, now that we're all done misinterpreting each other. :D Who says we're done misinterpreting each other?


So Ned wants everything. Rather selfish of him, considering hubby is, after all, hubby.

Did Ned want some particular item? No, not a particular item.

Is he planning to become a used car salesman by trade? As in for his job?

Or

Is he planning on sell a car (or two)?

Is he planning to become a used car salesman by trade? Not really. As in for his job? The puzzle states that: "He decides to become a used car salesman. How come?" It's not that he's planning it to be his job. I know - it's perfectly clear now. :o

Or

Is he planning on sell a car (or two)? No

Does Ned want to prove something to hubby?

Is greedy a better adjective?

Does Ned want to prove something to hubby? No

Is greedy a better adjective? Yes, that's the right word. :)

Is he planning to become a used car salesman by trade? Not really. As in for his job? The puzzle states that: "He decides to become a used car salesman. How come?" It's not that he's planning it to be his job. I know - it's perfectly clear now. :o

Or

Is he planning on sell a car (or two)? No

I'm even confused by this answer. He has decided to make his job a used car salesman. Why?

Oh yes, that's so much better.

It is late. I work sort of second-shift hours - my schedule is a little bizarre but second shift is 'the best fit'. So I don't mostly have to do mornings. I'm a night person, always have been. I love the night, I love the dark, I love the quiet. I get many jokes about my coffin. (I do also, however, love a wonderful sunny day outdoors.) My neighbors are usually up leaving for work before I'm in bed, though they also start work really early.

I've actually been trying to knock my schedule back a little at a time (so that I'm up late instead of all night), but too many nights I'm just not getting tired any earlier, so it's not going real well.

As for being innocent, that was total sarcasm. Since I do pick on Unky, I'm sure he got that. Or maybe you were kidding too. So you're right - we're not done misinterpreting each other. LOL.

I'm even confused by this answer. He has decided to make his job a used car salesman. Why?

Oh yes, that's so much better.

Yes. Actually, that's all I meant. I originally assumed it meant as a job. Then the thought struck me, did it maybe mean he was just planning to sell a used car, like a little trickery of words. Job - that's a good enough word and answers my question.

I'm a little confused now...

Ned decides to sell one car?

I'm a little confused now...

Ned decides to sell one car? No, it's not that he decides to sell just one car.

Sorry, Unky. It's after midnight here - past my bedtime. I just keep thinking you guys will get this any second. I think I over-interpreted Morgaine's question. She just wanted to make sure he was taking a job as a used car salesman. The answer to that is yes. The question is why does he want that job.

You haven't been to bed yet? I just assumed you were now in your non-sleeping mode.

Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect?

Is sis supporting him now?

Okay, no worries, I'll keep thinking :)

Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis?

Is the job's nature relevant? I mean, could he have decided to take some other job?

Is he living with sis and her hubby?

If so, is hubby going to end up kicking him out?

Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get?

Versus. Did he pick used car salesman in particular for some relevant reason?

You haven't been to bed yet? I just assumed you were now in your non-sleeping mode. No, not yet. I usually go to bed at 11, wake at 1:00 or 2:00 for an hour, and then get up between 5:00 and 6:00. For some reason, I'm just not getting sleepy. These games do that to me.

Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect? Possibly - the puzzle doesn't specifically state that though.

Is sis supporting him now? No

Ha! Looks like we are now thinking along the same lines about the job.

Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis? Not sure how to answer this, but I would say it's related to the hubby. I may have to clarify later.

Is the job's nature relevant? Yes I mean, could he have decided to take some other job? He had a specific reason to take this job.

Is he living with sis and her hubby? No

If so, is hubby going to end up kicking him out? N/A

Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get? No

Versus. Did he pick used car salesman in particular for some relevant reason? Haha - I was tempted to contradict myself, but then you'd be pulling your hair out. :confused:

Hmm, if he took (is taking) that job for some specific reason, I'm certainly not getting the connection, so I don't know that you should think we're ready to "get it any second." (Well, speaking for me anyway.)

In other words, if you feel you need to go relax so you can get some sleep, by all means do so.

Hmm, if he took (is taking) that job for some specific reason, I'm certainly not getting the connection, so I don't know that you should think we're ready to "get it any second." (Well, speaking for me anyway.)

In other words, if you feel you need to go relax so you can get some sleep, by all means do so.

I think I better go to bed. I don't want a relapse of the flu. See you tomorrow. :)

ETA: This game starts at post 393.
When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

I'll formulate it another then, maybe that's better?

Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job?

Is Ned protesting the will?

Is sis rich?

Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.)

How's about a recap:

When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

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Was his sister married? Yes.
Is his sister a child? No. Teen? No. Adult? Yes.
Is his sister in a hospital? Unknown.
Is sister sane? Yes.
Did the sister have any kids? I would have to guess no.
Are there other siblings of Ned and sis? I would have to guess no.
Is sis's hubby dying as well? No

Did he leave another job to take this one? Unknown
Are any of his prior jobs relevant to this situation? No.
Had he ever sold cars before? Unknown, but I don't think so.
Ned is an adult, correct? Yes.
Is his approximate age relevant? No.
Did he move to take the job? No.
Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) Yes.
Is Ned married? Unknown
Does Ned have any kids? Unknown
Do Ned and sis's hubby get along? Unknown
Is sis Ned's current boss (dying notwithstanding)? No
Is Ned planning to work at any particular car dealership? No.
Does Ned feel something other than sisterly love for his sister? (I really am sane, really I am. Sorry, it just popped in my head.) No.
Is he planning to become a used car salesman by trade? As in for his job? As a job, yes
Or, is he planning on sell a car (or two)? No
Does Ned want to prove something to hubby? No.
Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect? Possibly - the puzzle doesn't specifically state that though.
Is sis supporting him now? No.
Is Ned jealous of hubby? Hmmm ... jealous? I'm not sure that's the way I would word it, but possibly.
OK. So how about, was Ned envious of hubby or hubby's inheritance? I don't like envious either.
Is greedy a better adjective? Yes, that's the right word.
Hm... he is perhaps possessive? No.
Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis? Not sure how to answer this, but I would say it's related to the hubby. I may have to clarify later.
Is the job's nature relevant? Yes.
I mean, could he have decided to take some other job? He had a specific reason to take this job.
Is he living with sis and her hubby? No.
Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get? No

Does sis have a will? Yes
Is hubby in the will? Yes
Is Ned in the will? Yes
Is anyone else named in the will? No
Did sis leave Ned a used car business? No
Did Ned get something in the will? Yes.
Did he get requested to do something in the will? No.
Did hubby get something in the will? Yes.
Did hubby get requested to do something in the will? No.
Is Ned getting something more than hubby? No Less? No. Same? Yes.
Is the something in the will money? Yes.
Ned wants to get everything in his sister's will? Yes.
Did Ned want some particular item? No.

Is the cause of his sister's dying relevant? No.
Did any relatives (including inlaws) work at the used car lot? No.
Are their parents divorced? Unknown.
Are their parents still alive? Unknown
Do these two live in the same town? Most likely.
Is anyone else dying? No
Is a really scummy attorney involved in any way? No
Do Ned and his sister share some particular thing that most people don't have? No.
Does hubby need a car? No.
Did hubby and Ned challenged each other over some silly bet? No.
Does Ned want to make hubby buy a car to get the money? No.

Asked but unanswered as of this post:
Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job?
Is Ned protesting the will?
Is sis rich?
Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.)

OK, Ned "decided" to become a used car saleman...

Is he doing this of his own free will?
Getting coerced?
Threatened?
All of the above?

Is there any significance in that he's becoming a used car salesman?

Are any of hubby's friends involved in this?

Do you remember what my other question was going to be?

Does Ned want to start his own business?

Will he be working for someone else? Himself?

Does Ned like cars?

Does hubby like cars?

Will hubby inheriit any kind of business?

Will anyone inherit any cars?

Does hubby already own a business?


Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) Yes.
We already know he will have an inheritance of some sort, and that he will becoming a used car salesman. Is there going to be some other change in his life other than these two things, because of his sister's death? (i.e. do we have yet another "change" to figure out?)

Good morning everyone, although everyone is probably gone by now. I can play this one since I do not know the answer. Yay!

Is Ned's sister's car coming to the dealership?

If so, is there something about the car that only he knows?

If so, is there something in the car that he wants?

Is hubby also greedy?

Does anyone in the family know about Ned deciding to take this job as a car salesman?

Or is he taking this job to have pity from his sister to get more money?

I'll formulate it another then, maybe that's better?

Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job? Yes




Is Ned protesting the will? No

Is sis rich? Yes

Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.) No


How's about a recap:
Thanks. The last thing I remember thinking about before falling asleep is that I thought you'd do a recap. :)


OK, Ned "decided" to become a used car saleman...

Is he doing this of his own free will? Yes
Getting coerced? Threatened? All of the above? No, to all of these.

Is there any significance in that he's becoming a used car salesman? I was thinking about that, figuring the question would come. It could have been a new car salesman, but there is a reason "used' makes more sense.

Are any of hubby's friends involved in this? No

Do you remember what my other question was going to be? No ;)


Does Ned want to start his own business? No

Will he be working for someone else? Yes Himself? No

Does Ned like cars? Irrelevant

Does hubby like cars? Irrelevant

Will hubby inheriit any kind of business? Unknown

Will anyone inherit any cars? No

Does hubby already own a business? Unknown

We already know he will have an inheritance of some sort, and that he will becoming a used car salesman. Is there going to be some other change in his life other than these two things, because of his sister's death? (i.e. do we have yet another "change" to figure out?) No


Good morning everyone, although everyone is probably gone by now. I can play this one since I do not know the answer. Yay!
Great. I was pretty sure that would be the case. I think it's a pretty obscure site. I tried googling a bunch of the questions from the site and none of them came up, so I was thinking you probably hadn't seen this site. :)


Is Ned's sister's car coming to the dealership? No

If so, is there something about the car that only he knows? N/A

If so, is there something in the car that he wants? N/A - but good thinking.

Is hubby also greedy? I have no reason to believe he is.


Does anyone in the family know about Ned deciding to take this job as a car salesman? No

Or is he taking this job to have pity from his sister to get more money?No

Wow, I got absolutely nowhere. I had an idea that I was leading towards and now, I am lost. After reading all of this, I had those questions come up and was hoping I was in the right direction. This one seems like it will be fun.

Is somebody's car coming to the used dealership?

Is there something relavent about one of the cars on the lot?

Is Ned wanting to sell a used car to his sisters husband?

Did Ned have something to do with his sisters death?

May have been asked, but did Ned hate her husband?

Wow, I got absolutely nowhere. I had an idea that I was leading towards and now, I am lost. After reading all of this, I had those questions come up and was hoping I was in the right direction. This one seems like it will be fun.

Either that, or you guys will be throwing stones at me. :D

As I told Morgaine, I picked out a few puzzles from this site. They all have 70-90 posts. I didn't take the time to read through the posts, just the questions and answers.

I am sure that everyone will enjoy it.

Is somebody's car coming to the used dealership? No

Is there something relavent about one of the cars on the lot? No, it's not about a particular car.

Is Ned wanting to sell a used car to his sisters husband? No

Did Ned have something to do with his sisters death? No, and she's not dead yet.

May have been asked, but did Ned hate her husband? I have no reason to think he hated the husband. If you read over Morgaine's summary there is another emotion involved.

Oops, somehow I didn't see this earlier. Must have been too early. :)

Thanks. The last thing I remember thinking about before falling asleep is that I thought you'd do a recap. :)

LOL.



Great. I was pretty sure that would be the case. I think it's a pretty obscure site. I tried googling a bunch of the questions from the site and none of them came up, so I was thinking you probably hadn't seen this site. :)

I already have plenty without going some place new. Although I do have some sites I haven't looked through much. But for the moment this at least leaves ones I don't know. (I've even thought about trying my hand at making something up myself - hmm.)

If it's that hard, at least I might still have a chance at getting back to it before someone else comes in for the steal. Cause I probably can't be back until late evening. I figured some morning person would've solve it by now. :D

But I did copy all the new stuff and plopped it on a flash drive to take to work, in case I get a break.

Sorry, I was not paying attention when I used a different tense. As far as the emotion in the summary, I will go try and find it now. I skipped it since I read the whole thing until the end.

Hmm, no more questions yet. Maybe I still have a shot at this. I actually got a break at work but it's almost over at this point.

Adam, I kept using paste tense as well and when she tried to give me a hint about it, it went right over my head. And I still do it. It's easy to think she's already dead.

Which leads to a question...

Is it significant in any way that sis is not dead yet?

Is Ned going to do something else significant while he's selling cars, such as with the cars themselves or something else at the car lot?

Is he taking this job now, before his sister dies? Or waiting until afterwards? Or does it matter?

Does Ned have any expectations that his sister might change her will before dying?

Is there something Ned is planning to do that will somehow get him part/all of hubby's inheritance?

Which leads to a question...

Is it significant in any way that sis is not dead yet? Yes

Is Ned going to do something else significant while he's selling cars, such as with the cars themselves or something else at the car lot? Yes

Is he taking this job now, before his sister dies? Yes Or waiting til afterwards? No Or does it matter? Yes, it's significant.

Does Ned have any expectations that his sister might change her will before dying? No


Is there something Ned is planning to do that will somehow get him part/all of hubby's inheritance? Yes

That was a good set of questions. Now I know you'll get it soon. :p

Well, it only tells me I'm on the right track, but I still don't know what. Unfortunately, unless yet another one of my students doesn't show up, I have to get back to work and can't even work on it until later.

BUMMER!

(And if anyone else solves it, could you at least do the white-font de-spoiler so we don't see it?)

Well, it only tells me I'm on the right track, but I still don't know what. Unfortunately, unless yet another one of my students doesn't show up, I have to get back to work and can't even work on it til later.

BUMMER!

(And if anyone else solves it, could you at least do the white-font de-spoiler so we don't see it?)

Hope you get back in time. Unky will probably be on later tonight, but Adam is gone for the day.

No clue where I'm going with this but...

Is he trying to find a way to kill hubby before sis dies?

Is he going to steal anything?

No clue where I'm going with this but...

Is he trying to find a way to kill hubby before sis dies? Yes

Is he going to steal anything? No

Next student is late so I'm still hanging in there...

Going to take a crack at this...

Ned wants to be on the car lot so that he has an 'excuse' to be able to drive the cars, i.e. borrow a car, so that he can run down hubby and kill him, so he can then have the entire enheritance.

Hmm, that's hard to tell. I did the white font thing there.

Next student is late so I'm still hanging in there...

Gonna take a crack at this...

Ned wants to be on the car lot so that he has an 'excuse' to be able to drive the cars, i.e. borrow a car, so that he can run down hubby and kill him, so he can then have the entire enheritance.

Response is in white.

I'd say that's really close. The solution doesn't say he'll run him over, but he has a reason to drive one of the cars.

Oh well, getting there. But now I have a student so can't think about until later when I get home.

Arrg! So close. :rolleyes:

So...

Is he going to get hubby into one of the cars with him?
Is he going to take one of the cars to their house?
Is he going to get hubby to take a test drive?

Is he going to get hubby into one of the cars with him? No
Is he going to take one of the cars to their house? Yes
Is he going to get hubby to take a test drive? No

Is he going to put a bomb in the car?

Is he going to put a bomb in the car?

No

He's going to take the car to the house. And he's going to try to make hubby die so he can get the money. But he's not going to blow him up nor smack into him.

Hmm.

I can't say I'm well versed in the ways of killing people.

Is he going to get hubby inside the car somehow?

And what you you doing up, young lady? You had the flu and you're supposed to be resting. And it's too early for your 'waking up later' thing.

He's going to take the car to the house. And he's going to try to make hubby die so he can get the money. But he's not going to blow him up nor smack into him.

Hmm.

I can't say I'm well versed in the ways of killing people. You don't need to know the ways of killing people to solve the puzzle. Look at the question again.

Is he going to get hubby inside the car somehow? No

And what you you doing up, young lady? You had the flu and you're supposed to be resting. And it's too early for your 'waking up later' thing.

It's only 9:30 here. :) Plus, I know you are getting really close to solving this. ;)

[QUOTE]It's only 9:30 here. :)

Hmm... I always thought you disappeared before this and then came back in what would be about a half hour or so from now. I guess I'm crazy.

EDIT: Er, I meant "before the time of my last post," cause it's like 2 hours later now.


Plus, I know you are getting really close to solving this. ;)

If you say so. Sure, I've got the gist, but not getting that detail. Maybe Unky'll be along too. Maybe just the right question from him...


Is he going to try to kill hubby while he (Ned) is in the car?
Is he going to leave the car at the house?

Does Ned want hubby to be in a used car that he previously manipulated to that it occurs as an accident?

Does Ned expect to convince hubby to try a car?
Then try to kill him?
While still making it seem like an accident?

I'm thinking he can't risk killing hubby carelessly, or he'll be in jail and some other person will get the heritage...

Yea! Unky's here. Cause I'm running out of steam on questions. Got the main gist, but there's that nagging little detail about how the "kill" is going to happen. (By the way, I doubt it'll hurt for you to read the spoilers of my incorrect answer, since nearly everything of it has been solved anyway.)

Since J-Lo is perhaps sleeping better tonight, I will point out that he's not trying to get hubby to try the car - already asked. I also suspect that how easily he might get caught might not be relevant. When did the people in these scenarios make any sense anyway. :)

(I might check in one more time, but I'm making an attempt to hit the sack a bit earlier. I've already got it solved except for this detail. So we'll see what happens by time I get back up.)

I DO expect credit for solving the rest though. :p

Ned wants someone irrelevant to drive the car with him. He then will manage to run hubby over with the buyer (who's driving). He has tweaked the car before, so this will appear as an accident.

I keep thinking that he will try to stay out of suspicion...

I only read the one JLo said afterwards and I have some idea of what you said. Anyway, okay, I'll read back.

Ned wants someone irrelevant to drive the car with him. He then will manage to run hubby over with the buyer (who's driving). He has tweaked the car before, so this will appear as an accident.

Not bad. Except it doesn't explain taking the car to the house.

I kept thinking he was going to cut a brake line or something of the sort, but still doesn't explain him taking it to the house. That's stumping me.

She said the site where she got it had like 70-90 posts. How many do you think we have? :D

4 pages of 20 posts for me, that makes like the same as theirs and if we don't find it quick :eek:

Ok, I keep missing some details...

Something riduculous, but who knows...

He plans to take the car to their house. At night, Ned would switch on the engine and let carbon monoxide fill the house so that hubby will die. I'm assuming though that sis is at the hospital... or that Ned is killing his sis too... one rock, two hits.

He plans to take the car to their house. At night, Ned would switch on the engine and let carbon monoxide fill the house so that hubby will die. I'm assuming though that sis is at the hospital... or that Ned is killing his sis too... one rock, two hits.

LOL. I'm all for it.

But I'm done for the night and need to be in bed. Guess I'll see later how it all faired out.

Have a good sleep morgaine :)

Hmm... I always thought you disappeared before this and then came back in what would be about a half hour or so from now. I guess I'm crazy.

EDIT: Er, I meant "before the time of my last post," cause it's like 2 hours later now.

I actually slept thru the night - sounds like a baby, finally sleeping thru the night. My mom would have been so proud. :o

If you say so. Sure, I've got the gist, but not getting that detail. Maybe Unky'll be along too. Maybe just the right question from him....


Is he going to try to kill hubby while he (Ned) is in the car? No
Is he going to leave the car at the house? No


Does Ned want hubby to be in a used car that he previously manipulated to that it occurs as an accident? No

Does Ned expect to convince hubby to try a car? No
Then try to kill him? No
While still making it seem like an accident? No

I'm thinking he can't risk killing hubby carelessly, or he'll be in jail and some other person will get the heritage... Now you are thinking on the right track - the final part of this puzzle is his motivation for taking the job only.


Yea!, Unky's here. Cause I'm running out of steam on questions. Got the main gist, but there's that nagging little detail about how the "kill" is going to happen. (By the way, I doubt it'll hurt for you to read the spoilers of my incorrect answer, since nearly everything of it has been solved anyway.) It doesn't matter how the kill will happen.

Since J-Lo is perhaps sleeping better tonight Yes!, I will point out that he's not trying to get hubby to try the car - already asked. I also suspect that how easily he might get caught might not be relevant. When did the people in these scenarios make any sense anyway. :) Actually it is relevant. This was based on a TV show, so is slightly more realistic.

(I might check in one more time, but I'm making an attempt to hit the sack a bit earlier. I've already got it solved except for this detail. So we'll see what happens by time I get back up.)

I DO expect credit for solving the rest though. :p Absolutely


Ned wants someone irrelevant to drive the car with him. He then will manage to run hubby over with the buyer (who's driving). He has tweaked the car before, so this will appear as an accident. No

I keep thinking that he will try to stay out of suspicion... Yes, that's his motivation.

I only read the one JLo said afterwards and I have some idea of what you said. Anyway, okay, I'll read back.


Not bad. Except it doesn't explain taking the car to the house.

I kept thinking he was going to cut a brake line or something of the sort, No but still doesn't explain him taking it to the house. That's stumping me.




She said the site where she got it had like 70-90 posts. How many do you think we have? :D We started at #393.


4 pages of 20 posts for me, that makes like the same as theirs and if we don't find it quick :eek:

Ok, I keep missing some details... Not really - it's simpler than where you guys are headed.

Something riduculous, but who knows...

He plans to take the car to their house. At night, Ned would switch on the engine and let carbon monoxide fill the house so that hubby will die. I'm assuming though that sis is at the hospital... or that Ned is killing his sis too... one rock, two hits. No - the actual method of death is not mentioned. I accidently hit "agree" rather than quote. I keep doing that. :confused:



Yep. You guys are going to stone me. I feel like really this puzzle is over. Unky basically got the final touch by saying "I'm thinking he can't risk killing hubby carelessly, or he'll be in jail and some other person will get the heritage..." and "I keep thinking that he will try to stay out of suspicion... "

This is the official solution. The nagging detail was just that he wanted to use a different car so if he was seen no one would know it was him. It really would have been better if the type of murder was included, but I'm thinking Ned wasn't all that bright and hadn't figured that out yet.

Ned's sister is very rich but Ned is not. She once told him her will left half her fortune to her husband & half to Ned. When he learned that she was dying, he decided to double his inheritance by killing the husband before her death. He became a used car salesman to have access to cars that were not recognizably his & hence would not be recognized when he went to murder the husband. He would also be more likely to be identified on the street if he were on foot. This puzzle is adapted from a TV show.

Okay, that was a silly solution.

I could have come up with something more imaginative than THAT!

Okay, that was a silly solution.

I could have come up with something more imaginative than THAT!!

I bet you could have - really all they needed was an interesting murder.

Maybe you should write for TV.

Ooh, I have an idea. You should turn one of your creative ideas into a lateral puzzle for us.

Oh god no.

I have a few good lateral puzzles that I know. The problem is that my ability to participate on AMHD is very sporadic lately, and I need to keep up with my moderator stuff first before playing--so if I posted a puzzle, I wouldn't be able to respond to questions in a timely manner.

I've been playing these since I was 13 and a teacher introduced us to them. It was our Friday game. She'd give us the puzzle on Wednesday, and we would write down questions to turn in Thursday. On Friday, she'd have the questions and answers on the board, and we'd solve the puzzle before doing any other classwork. Changed how I think about a lot of things, and really made it easier to "think outside the box". I've talked to others from that class throughout the years, and most of us have retained that ability to change perspective and see the puzzle from a different way.

Best thing about the whole thing? It was a MATH class. :)

Nice :)

So... we failed to get the official solution :(

I always liked teachers who could come up with creative ideas like that. I remember three in particular - one was a psychology teacher and the other two were math teachers. I always loved math anyway, but these two teachers were really special.

Synnen - I understand about your duties. From December through April 15, I work really long hours and barely have time to play. This is my slow season, though.

Unky - I do think you got it. It may not have been the exact wording, but the thought was still there. :)

Does someone want me to PM them a puzzle and they can do the answers?

Does someone want me to PM them a puzzle and they can do the answers?

I would do that if no one else wants to. I like giving Morgaine a chance to play since she's done so many of these. I'm only here for one more week, and then gone for the rest of the month to get married and go on our honeymoon. My mind is not exactly on work. :o

Oh... gee thanks JLo :o

No thanks. I don't know how much time I'll be able to keep up here. 2 weeks before the big exams and I feel like I have a lot to do :( I'll have to practice my physics and try to get used to my forgotten formulae.