Another California Environmentalist goes bonkers with a gun and a bomb takes hostages and rants like a lunatic.

James Lee, dead in Discovery Channel hostage crisis, reminiscent of Unabomber - CSMonitor.com (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0901/James-Lee-dead-in-Discovery-Channel-hostage-crisis-reminiscent-of-Unabomber)


Happened only a few miles from my office today.

Thankfully they killed the SOB... the ACLU can't defend him now.

I blame the Goracle . From what I hear ,the moron James Lee was heavily influenced by the Nobel Prize winners 'An Inconvenient Truth '.

But I thought all non-Islamic terrorism was from the Taliban wing of the Republican party.

Hello smoothy:

I heard he was from Virginia.

excon

Hello smoothy:

I heard he was from Virginia.

exconNews says Califiornia.

I know the building and the surrounding buildings... I've been in most of them.

When I heard the address I kew it was one of a couple places I've been in a number of times... before they announced it was The Discovery building.

I was wondering why someone would take hostages at the Discovery Channel building. Crazy Environmentalist. He deserved to be shot how can you not like dirty jobs and cash cab!!

I was wondering why someone would take hostages at the Discovery Channel building. Crazy Environmentalist. He deserved to be shot how can you not like dirty jobs and cash cab!!!!

Well, I don't like cash cab... but Dirty jobs and Deadliest Catch are fantastic shows.

Well, I don't like cash cab....but Dirty jobs and Deadliest Catch are fantastic shows.

Mythbusters makes big booms.

Mythbusters makes big booms.

ANOTHER great show... :D

Back to terrorism for a moment... or not?


Ex-leader of abortion clinic charged in bomb scare (http://amarillo.com/oklahoma-news/2010-09-04/ex-leader-abortion-clinic-charged-bomb-scare)

The former director of an Oklahoma abortion clinic has been charged with making false or misleading statements after telling police she'd found a bomb at the facility, according to federal court documents.

Investigators said Linda Meek reported on Aug. 13 that a bomb had been placed in a trash can at Reproductive Services of Tulsa, according to documents filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Tulsa. The clinic, which was bombed twice in 1997, and an adjacent building were evacuated, but a bomb technician determined that a suspicious box in the trash can was not an explosive.

Now why would an abortion clinic chief lie about a bomb scare? My guess is the same as others in the article speculated, to portray abortion opponents as "violent and dangerous." The same as when our own government released a report on 'right-wing extremism," just as the left went wildly overboard when a census worker staged his suicide as a hate crime, and just as the left smears 'teabaggers' on a daily basis.

I submit that the left is far more violent, far more intolerant, far more vicious and hateful than the right, and they do these things in part to excuse their own behavior and draw attention away from themselves. Read through ANY comment section at Huffpo and tell me I'm wrong.

tell me I'm wrong.Hello Steve:

You're wrong... Not saying lefties are wonderful people, but they don't have a leg up on violence... NONE of us are real peace loving people any more...

excon

I submit that the left is far more violent, far more intolerant, far more vicious and hateful than the right, and they do these things in part to excuse their own behavior and draw attention away from themselves. Read through ANY comment section at Huffpo and tell me I'm wrong.

The argument can be made that both the Taliban and McVeigh should be considered "right-wing," although to my mind both have stepped over the line into lunacy.

You can of course counter with examples of the New Black Panthers and the Unabomber, again both insane in my opinion.

If you want to confine the argument to rhetoric and advocacy, I'll join you. The left has advocated violence since the days of Abbie Hoffman and Chairman Mao. Violence is part and parcel of their "top down" philosophy. After all, the entire concept of "government imposed" anything is predicated on police ability to use deadly force.

After all, the entire concept of "government imposed" anything is predicated on police ability to use deadly force.Hello again, wrongwingers:

And, if the people you want to get elected, DON'T get elected, you always have your "SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES!"

I wonder who said that?? Oh, it was Sharron Angle. The RIGHTWING TEA PARTY candidate for the senate in Nev. But, she was just kidding, right??

DUDES!

If you want to talk about policies, let's talk. But, you ain't NEVER going to convince me that my side is violent, while you just sit there... Nope. Ain't going to happen.

excon

I submit that the left is far more violent, far more intolerant, far more vicious and hateful than the right, and they do these things in part to excuse their own behavior and draw attention away from themselves. Read through ANY comment section at Huffpo and tell me I'm wrong.
I find that when ANYONE makes a lot of noise, it is to draw attention TOWARD themselves, not away.

Let's face it. Rightie or leftie, we have a lot of mentally unbalanced people in this world. In my opinion, anyone who tries to force their opinions down another person's throat using terrorist tactics is emotionally disturbed. Whether "the left is far more violent, far more intolerant, far more vicious and hateful than the right, " well, I guess we need to take the time to do a serious census to prove that theory out. Based upon news reports & articles I have read throughout my life, it does appear the younger people with leftist ideals tend to act out in a much more aggressive manner both vocally & illegally than those with right leaning tendencies. But, as people grow older, I think the loonies are on both sides of the fence. On the one hand, we have this guy Lee who Smoothy describes as an Environazi. I guess that translates to leftist politics. On the other hand, we have Andrew Joseph Stack III, the guy who flew his plane into that IRS building in your home state of Texas to voice his final objections to his tax bills. I have heard the guy referred to as a right wing conservative. I don't care what their political leaning are. They were both emotionally disturbed individuals sitting on the same side of the "crazy" fence.

Based upon news reports & articles I have read throughout my life, it does appear the younger people with leftist ideals tend to act out in a much more aggressive manner both vocally & illegally than those with right leaning tendencies. G'morning J:

Those with "right leaning tendencies", perpetrate their violence by attacking countries who DIDN'T attack us, and through their police forces who brutalize people all the time.

They DO all this from the comfort of their couch, so they can PRETEND they're not violent. Give me a break!

excon

So, we are now moving reponses to the comment that Speechless made to other countries? Okay. I guess you forgot about a little war that was declared while Kennedy was in office. In case you need a reminder, the country was Vietnam.

*edit*... my bad. Although the problem escalated under Kennedy, war wasn't declared until Johnson was in office.

Lets See... The Purges under Stalin post WW2.

The massive murders under Chairman Mao.

The Killing Fields of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.


All on behalf of leftist ideologies... all murders in the millions of their own people NOT by the hands of another nation. In the cases of the USSR and China, in the tens of millions each.

And smaller cases of Tibet, Cuba... Columbia, the list goes on and on...

through their police forces who brutalize people all the time.

Mornin' Ex,

Let's then discuss Janet Reno vs. Randy Weaver. Then Janet Reno vs. David Koresch. Then Janet Reno vs. Elian Gonzalez.

I didn't see "Bush's jackbooted thugs"(another Huffpo term) taking out hillbillies and churches and six year olds.

Hello again, wingers:

WE are a violent being. That is just so. That's in our nature, not our politics. One of the reasons our politics is SOOO screwed up, is that you BELIEVE the absolutely UNBELIEVABLE tripe you do - like this.

The fact is, your side is SOOO out of touch with human nature, that you could make such broad based stupid statements, like the ones above.

excon

Right... we are out of touch because we want to keep the money WE worked hard to earn... and shame on us for not wanting to give it all to illegals and the lazy bums who did not apply themselves in school because getting drunk, smoking weed, having babies by numerous people out of wedlock and picking on the geeks that took school serious was more important to them...

Yeah.. shame on us for wanting to keep what we worked hard to earn.

Never mind it's the left that for the most part doesn't pay their fair share of the taxes... (38% pay not taxes at all) Never mind the fact it's the left that grants Terrorists and muslims more rights than Christians and American Citizens.

Never mind that far more people are center right than center left. Never mind the fact this ISN'T a socialist country, and never mind the fact the left invents facts (creates fiction in reality) to support their agenda when no facts exist.

shame on us for not wanting to give it all to illegals and the lazy bums who did not apply themselves in school because getting drunk, smoking weed, having babies by numerous people out of wedlock and picking on the geeks that took school serious was more important to them...Hello again, smoothy:

An accurate representation of just how out of touch with human nature you are.

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

An accurate representation of just how out of touch with human nature you are.

excon

Prove ANY of that is wrong... it describes the left to a "T". Its Exactly what Obamas redistribution of Wealth is all about... and its been proven to be accurate in EVERY socialist attempt at society on the entire planet in history.

The only human nature that YOU are out of touch with is the fact not all people are as lazy as so much of the left is... and not all humans are content to sit on their a55es and demand their neighbor who works hard hand over his hard earned money so they who did no work could share in the rewards.

Human Nature IS that the lazy and those who want something for nothing tend to gravitiate to the left, while most who are driven to work hard and know they are entitled to keep what THEY earned gravitates to the right.

Taking from one person who earned something who doesn't want to give it up to give to someone who didn't in most civilized cultures is considered theft. The only differnce is if it's a crack head or a leftist politician... its still theft.

Prove ANY of that is wrong..Hello again, smoothy:

I prove you wrong day in, and day out. That doesn't stop you.

excon

Taking from one person who earned something who doesn't want to give it up to give to someone who didn't in most civilized cultures is considered theft. The only differnce is if its a crack head or a leftist politician....its still theft.

Old bumper sticker:

32956

Hello again, smoothy:

I prove you wrong day in, and day out. That doesn't stop you.

excon

You are no different than Obama... you live in a universe where reality and facts exist only in your own mind. Did you sit in Democrat propaganda class with Dan Rather?

Old bumper sticker:

32956

Exactly...

When 38% of the population pays no taxes and expects the rest of us that do to pay THEIR share as well as our own and for even more entitlement programs they demand and yet contribute NOTHING towards...

Then there is absolutely no difference between the thug who robs you at gun point and the Government who effectively kidnaps you at gunpoint, then locks you up until you pay a ransom... all because you wouldn't hand over your property to people who didn't earn it, or have a right to it.

Reading threads like these make me happy I am not american.

Reading threads like these make me happy I am not american.

I've spent enough time living and working abroad to be glad I AM an American.

You're "glad"? LOL! All I see is threads full of disgust and hate.

You're "glad"? LOL! All I see is threads full of disgust and hate.

Disgust is one thing, hate is another. The right is disgusted by Obama's policies. The right is disgusted that he apologizes to China and genuflects to UN human rights watchdogs like Libya and Cuba. The left hates Bush, the left hates 'teabaggers,' the left hates the "Taliban wing of the Republican party."

The challenge was to look through any thread at Huffpo and tell me I'm wrong. Or, as I continue to challenge when someone refers to those violent 'teabaggers' and their 'second amendment remedies,' compare a Tea Party rally to virtually any left-wing rally (http://zombietime.com/). Go to a Tea Party rally and you'll see plenty of disgust (and possibly some violence by union thugs), go to a leftist rally and you'll see ample supplies of hate.

Hello again:

Ok, let's settle it. I'm a MUCH nicer person than you. So, people who think like me are too.

excon

You're "glad"? LOL! All I see is threads full of disgust and hate.

And you I suppose live in the land of perfect politicians?

Hello again:

Ok, let's settle it. I'm a MUCH nicer person than you. So, people who think like me are too.

exconChairman Mao was loved by people that really didn't know what he was doing too. So was Stalin. Doesn't mean what they were doing was right.

Charles Manson was well liked (even loved) in a certain circle as well.

Adolph Hitlers people thought He was doing the right thing too, up until the end of the war... and even then some still did. Did that make them right too?

Hello again,

Call me when we have something SERIOUS to talk about. I'm out of here.

excon

PS> I'm even embarrassed that I participated as long as I did

Chairman Mao was loved by people that really didn't know what he was doing too. So was Stalin. Doesn't mean what they were doing was right.

Charles Manson was well liked (even loved) in a certain circle as well.

Adolph Hitlers people thought He was doing the right thing too, up until the end of the war...and even then some still did. Did that make them right too?
And some people probably like you too.

Disgust is one thing, hate is another.I'm talking about this site and specifically the Current Events board. If a visitor were to read this board they'd come away with the feeling that the US is a steaming pot of hatred.

And some people probably like you too.

Quite a few in fact... more than half the US population thinks along the lines I do as well.

Hello again,

Call me when we have something SERIOUS to talk about. I'm outta here.

excon

PS> I'm even embarrassed that I participated as long as I did

That's because you can't respond when called to the carpert...


You like to invent evidence to back up your claims just like Dan Rather got caught doing. Something that is SOP with the Obama administration.

Obama still claims the ecomony is doing quite well, despite the fact NOTHING is doing well except the sector that gets money from the government.

THe Unemployment rates are in the tank... and haven't improved... the National debt has quadrupled in 19 months, nobody is hiring, he housing market is at historical lows.

Yeah... the Obama Economy is doing so well Cuba is almost starting to look good.

Quite a few in fact.....more than half the US population thinks along the lines I do as well.Yea but they haven't met you. :D I'm happy that you are proud of your bigotry.

your bigotry.

So glad you brought that up. I really think a great deal of the left's "social justice" views stem from closet racism. The elitist thinks that the poor downtrodden (pick a disadvantaged minority) simply can not get ahead on his/her own so they have to give him/her what s/he cannot achieve to make him/her "equal."

I'm talking about this site and specifically the Current Events board. If a visitor were to read this board they'd come away with the feeling that the US is a steaming pot of hatred.

Hmmmm!

The elitist thinks that the poor downtrodden (pick a disadvantaged minority) simply can not get ahead on his/her own so they have to give him/her what s/he cannot achieve to make him/her "equal."That theory sounds exactly like what the Bible proposes.

That theory sounds exactly like what the Bible proposes.

So why don't you pick some poor downtrodden homeless person and give them half of everything you own? Then you'd both be equal.

Most of the neo-feudalist elitists certainly won't.

I, however, will give the same opportunity I had to anyone. I had the opportunity to work my way though school, get swindled out of a house, build a career and a family and another house by busting my chops for twenty five years.

That's the difference: equal opportunity or equal results.

Hello again:

Ok, let's settle it. I'm a MUCH nicer person than you. So, people who think like me are too.

excon

LOL, exactly.

I'm talking about this site and specifically the Current Events board. If a visitor were to read this board they'd come away with the feeling that the US is a steaming pot of hatred.

And you contribute nothing to that atmosphere I take it?

That theory sounds exactly like what the Bible proposes.

The bible says if a man doesn't want to work, don't let him eat. Is that the part you're referring to? In other words, the bible tells us to help those truly in need, but if you're able you need to get off your butt and help yourself. Support for the nanny state the left dreams of is not to be found.

Yea but they haven't met you. :D I'm happy that you are proud of your bigotry.

Just like a typical liberal to start the name calling... Can't get over that personality trait can you.

So why don't you pick some poor downtrodden homeless person and give them half of everything you own? Then you'd both be equal.

Most of the neo-feudalist elitists certainly won't.

I, however, will give the exact same opportunity I had to anyone. I had the opportunity to work my way though school, get swindled out of a house, build a career and a family and another house by busting my chops for twenty five years.

That's the difference: equal opportunity or equal results.
Exactly... but the liberals don't WANT to earn it... they want it handed to them. They believe they are ENTITLED to what others work hard to earn.

That theory sounds exactly like what the Bible proposes.

Exactly how does THAT equate to "The lord helps those who help themselves."

Which Specifically means you have to work to earn what you desire. It doesn't mean others are obligated to give you what you were too lazy to go out and earn.