View Full Version : Is there a trick math equation like the one where 2 = 1 where 3 = 1?
Wiley50
Aug 19, 2010, 06:35 AM
I am looking for a trick math equation to where 3 = 1 like the trick math equation where 2 equals 1.
Unknown008
Aug 19, 2010, 09:14 AM
If you're taking it as the thread that Nestorian made some last year, well, you can have any sort of thing...
I'll take a chemistry example, regarding molecules.
2SO_2 + 2H_2O + O_2 \rightarrow 2H_2SO_4
There you end up with:
2 + 2 + 1 = 2
:p
galactus
Aug 19, 2010, 10:15 AM
These are called 'mathematical fallacies'.
Google that and you will find many.
ebaines
Aug 24, 2010, 11:32 AM
Here's one: it actually "proves" that 1 = - 1, but if you then add 2 to both sides you get 3 = 1:
-1 = -1 \\
\frac 1 {-1} = \frac {-1} 1
Take the square root of both sides (yes - it is perfectly OK to take the square root of a negative number):
\sqrt {\frac 1 {-1}} = \sqrt {\frac {-1} 1}
Since \sqrt{a/b} = \sqrt a/ \sqrt b:
\frac {\sqrt 1} {\sqrt {-1}} = \frac {\sqrt {-1 }} {\sqrt 1}
Now cross multiply, using the rule for fractions that if a/b = c/d, then ad = cb:
\sqrt 1 \ \times \ sqrt 1 = sqrt{-1} \ \times \ \sqrt{-1}
Since \sqrt a \ \times \ \sqrt a = a :
1 = -1
And add 2 to both sides:
1+2 = -1+2
3 = 1
QED
Do you see where the fallacy is?
Unknown008
Aug 24, 2010, 11:46 AM
I would say... \sqrt{1} because this can take either of \pm1
Is that it? :)
ebaines
Aug 24, 2010, 11:51 AM
I would say... \sqrt{1} because this can take either of \pm1
Is that it? :)
You're saying that \sqrt a \times \sqrt a = \pm a ? So if we simply chose \sqrt 1 \times \sqrt 1 = -1 that would fix it. True enough. But there's actually an error that occurs earlier in the "proof."
Unknown008
Aug 24, 2010, 11:54 AM
Well, I had suspicion about the
\frac{1}{-1} = \frac{-1}{1}
But I wasn't sure. This is the only thing that I don't think might be 'legal'.
ebaines
Aug 24, 2010, 12:22 PM
Well, I had suspicion about the
\frac{1}{-1} = \frac{-1}{1}
But I wasn't sure. This is the only thing that I don't think might be 'legal'.
Nothing wrong with that - both sides equal -1, right?
Keep looking...
Unknown008
Aug 24, 2010, 12:53 PM
Or is it because you got
\frac{\sqrt1}{\sqrt{-1}} = \frac{\sqrt{-1}}{\sqrt{1}}
You have in fact, \frac{1}{i} = \frac{i}{1}
I don't know much about complex numbers, but cross multiplication might not be something allowed.. (taking only the positive root, for the time being)
ebaines
Aug 24, 2010, 01:00 PM
Or is it because you got
\frac{\sqrt1}{\sqrt{-1}} = \frac{\sqrt{-1}}{\sqrt{1}}
You have in fact, \frac{1}{i} = \frac{i}{1}
I don't know much about complex numbers, but cross multiplication might not be something allowed... ? (taking only the positive root, for the time being)
Tha's it! Using the notation \sqrt {-1} = i, the left hand side is:
\frac{\sqrt1}{\sqrt{-1}} = \frac 1 i = -i
and the right hand side is
\frac{\sqrt{-1}}{\sqrt{1}} = i
So the error is:
\sqrt{\frac a b} \ \ne \ \frac {\sqrt a} {\sqrt b}
for negative numbers.
Unknown008
Aug 24, 2010, 01:06 PM
Finally! Thanks! :)