Anyone know of self-defence lawyers in Canada? Compiling a list to pass on to CASD members for when SHTF. ATC regs. May change yet.

Hello g:

I'm sure you're asking something pretty important. I can tell by all the initials you're using. But, I haven't got a clue what you're saying... Are you planning on committing a crime where you have to plead SELF DEFENSE?? How would one know that in advance??

excon

By definition a self-defense Attorney is an Attorney who represents his/her self.

What?

Canada's violent crime rate is higher than the US because of our backward gun laws. US issues permits to carry conceiled weapons where in Canada, you need to be in a profession where a firearm is required.

We can defend ourselves in our homes providing we can get an appropriate weapon out of storage and load it in time to make a stand. If, and I say "IF" it comes to the point where deadly force is necessary, there are numerous charges we face because we chose to not be a victim or statistic. In Canada, criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens.

There is no intent to commit a crime and then "claim" self defence but having a list of law professionals who have experience in self defence where it pertains to the law would be handy.

Everybody has heard the stories and seen the news of people being mugged, raped or murdered in their own homes, walking down the street, strolling through the park, etc... We sit back and say, "glad that never happened to me".
The fact is, at some time, they probably said the same thing.

The anti-gun crowd say that only the police need to carry guns; the police don't carry guns to protect citizens, they carry to protect themselves. Hey, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

As for the initials CCW=Carry Conceiled Weapon (US); ATC=Authorization To Carry (CAN); CASD=Canadian Association for Self Defence... SHTF=Sh!t Hits The Fan (Everywhere)

Canada's violent crime rate is higher than the US because of our backward gun laws.Hello g:

Nahhh. I think you're letting the cold weather get to you. Here's some stats to keep you busy:

Comparing crime rates between countries is difficult due to the differences in jurisprudence, reporting and crime classifications. National crime statistics are in reality statistics of only selected crime types. Data is collected through various surveying methods that have previously ranged between 15% and 100% coverage of the data. A 2001 Statistics Canada study concluded that comparisons with the U.S. on homicide rates were the most reliable. Comparison of rates for 6 lesser incident crimes considered possible but subject to more difficulty of interpretation. For example types of assaults receive different classifications and laws in Canada and the US making comparisons more difficult than homicides. At the time the U.S. crime of aggravated assault could be compared to the sum of three Canadian crimes (aggravated assault, assault with a weapon, and attempted murder). This comparison had a predicted bias that would inflate the Canadian numbers by only 0.1%. The study also concluded that directly comparing the 2 countries' reported total crime rate (i.e. total selected crimes) was "inappropriate" since the totals include the problem data sets as well as the usable sets.[6] For reasons like these homicides have been favored in international studies looking for predictors of crime rates (predictors like economic inequality).

Historically, the violent crime rate in Canada is lower than that of the U.S. and this continues to be the case. For example, in 2000 the United States' rate for robberies was 65 percent higher, its rate for aggravated assault was more than double and its murder rate was triple that of Canada. However, the rate of some property crime types is lower in the U.S. than in Canada. For example, in 2006, the rates of vehicle theft were 22% higher in Canada than in the US.[7] Since violent crimes are a smaller fraction of all crimes, the difference between the two countries is less than the homicide rate might make it seem, and the overall rates are generally close (see Crime in the United States).

Furthermore, in recent years, the gap in violent crime rates between the United States and Canada has narrowed due to a precipitous drop in the violent crime rate in the U.S. For example, while the aggravated assault rate declined for most of 1990s in the U.S. and was 324 per 100,000 in 2000, the aggravated assault rate in Canada remained relatively steady throughout and was 143 per 100,000 in 2000. In other areas, the U.S. had a faster decline. For instance, whereas the murder rate in Canada declined by 36% between 1991 and 2004, the U.S. murder rate declined by 44%. [8] Surprisingly, both Saskatoon and Regina consistently have Violent Crime rates that would place them among the 10 most violent cities in the US, and often individually exceed larger US centers in terms of Total numbers for Aggravated Assaults and Robbery.

The homicide rate in Canada peaked in 1975 at 3.03 per 100,000 and has dropped since then; it reached lower peaks in 1985 (2.72) and 1991 (2.69). It reached a post 1970 low of 1.73 in 2003. The average murder rate between 1970 and 1976 was 2.52, between 1977 and 1983 it was 2.67, between 1984 and 1990 it was 2.41, between 1991 and 1997 it was 2.23 and between 1998 to 2004 it was 1.82.[9] The attempted homicide rate has fallen at a faster rate than the homicide rate.[10]

By comparison, the homicide rate in the U.S. reached 10.1 per 100,000 in 1974, peaked in 1980 at 10.7 and reached a lower peak in 1991 (10.5). The average murder rate between 1970 and 1976 was 9.4, between 1977 and 1983 it was 9.6, between 1984 and 1990 it was 9, between 1991 and 1997 it was 9.2 and between 1998 and 2004 it was 6.3. In 2004 the murder rate in the U.S. dipped below 6 per 100,000, for the first time since 1966.[8]

Approximately 70 percent of the total murders in the U.S. are committed with firearms, versus about 30 percent in Canada.

excon

You came up with these stats pretty damn quick. Where are you and what do you do for a living? The fact that you seem to know about S'toon and Regina means you don't live in the US.

You came up with these stats pretty damn quick. Where are you and what do you do for a living? The fact that you seem to know about S'toon and Regina means you don't live in the US.
I could have come up with those stats just as quickly. excon lives in Wikipedia-land --

Crime in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada)

Well, how silly of me to think that every-day-joe should be allowed to defend themselves.

Well, how silly of me to think that every-day-joe should be allowed to defend themselves.
Huh? No one said he shouldn't be able to.

Forget I asked.

Forget I asked.
Now you're copping out?

Now you're copping out?


Hey, when you're losing the argument it's best to turn and go - have to laugh.

Looking for a legitimate answer, not retoric from people who expect donut shop jockeys to save their asses in a crisis.

Where do you live in Canada?

Looking for a legitimate answer, not retoric from people who expect donut shop jockeys to save their asses in a crisis.


Some of the donut shop jockeys actually went to law school.

Of course, people get what they pay for -

OP seems to have an attitude problem here. Doesn't lend well to getting people to offer responses.

Disclaimer: I love our gun laws here in Canada. I feel safe here and there is very little crime around me or my family.

Looking for a legitimate answer, Hello again, g:

You appear to be looking for a list of attorney's with a specific political bent, along with criminal defense expertise in a very narrow segment of criminal law. In my view, no such list exists.

I couldn't care less WHY you think you may need their services. I just pointed out that the reason you gave was full of holes. Now, I understand if you're concerned with protecting your family. I am too. But, I think you were making a political statement instead of exhibiting fear for your family. We can argue about that on the current events page. I'll be happy to take you on over there. But, THIS board is where people are looking for advice because they're in trouble. You're not.

excon

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Hey! I take offense to that. I don't deny it, I just take offense.

Hey! I take offense to that. I don't deny it, I just take offense.Hello again, Judy:

Between the two of us, one IS more coppish than the other. Just saying...

excon

Seeing as I don't plan on coming back to this site and I can't just delete my profile, I really don't give a flying f-u-c-k what I say. This is clearly a useless site full of self-important moderators... Correction, female mods. Nothing worse than asking a question and getting useless right-wing Liberal retoric.

None of the people on this thread are mods.

getting useless right-wing Liberal retoric.You made me laugh there though I'm sure you didn't plan that. You bring shame to Canadians.

Seeing as I don't plan on coming back to this site and I can't just delete my profile, I really don't give a flying f-u-c-k what I say. This is clearly a useless site full of self-important moderators....Correction, female mods. Nothing worse than asking a question and getting useless right-wing Liberal retoric.


What a way to find out, both through a "disagree" AND this post. I've been upgraded to a Mod!

I'm making a list of all the people I am going to ban. Exy, turn in your keys!

I am so excited!

And the useless left-wing has spoken - apparently unable to express himself without obscenities.