Hello wingers:

It's even WORSE than that, isn't it? Things aren't going your way. Not only would you put a STOP to it, but if you had your way, you'd turn the clock back, wouldn't you? You can come clean, here. Ain't nobody going to tell.

True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:

(1) Repeal health care

(2) Privatize Social Security

(3) Turn Medicare over the insurance companies

(4) End unemployment insurance compensation

(5) Tax the poor

(6) Bomb Iran

(7) Overturn Roe v Wade

(8) Deregulate Wall Street

(9) Overturn Brown v Board of Education

(10) Overturn Giddeon v Wainwright

(11) Overturn Miranda

(12) Repeal the Civil Rights Act..

(13) Repeal ALL gun laws.

(14) **** Put prayer BACK in the public square **** (edited - how could I have forgotten THIS?)

I'm sure there's MORE you'd do. Let me know what I forgot.

excon

Ex, for a "damn smart" guy this is about as goofy a thread as I've ever seen. I think you forgot legalize slavery and replace the constitution with the ten commandments.

Hello again, Steve:

Oh yeah:

(14) Put prayer BACK in public schools.

Thanks. That's a BIG one. So, you don't want to do any of those? Cool. I KNEW you were a lib.

excon

True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:

(1) Repeal health care (True)

(2) Privatize Social Security (yes/no) Both True and False. SSI yes / SDI no

(3) Turn Medicare over the insurance companies ( False )

(4) End unemployment insurance compensation (False) Its an isurance. Since your paying into it your entitled to benefit from it.


(5) Tax the poor (need definition of "poor") If poor is anything at 10% or below poverty line then (False.)

(6) Bomb Iran (True)

(7) Overturn Roe v Wade (False)

(8) Deregulate Wall Street (True)

(9) Overturn Brown v Board of Education (False)

(10) Overturn Giddeon v Wainwright (False)

(11) Overturn Miranda (False)

(12) Repeal the Civil Rights Act.. (False)

(13) Repeal ALL gun laws. (both-True and False)
The deviding line would be for laws regarding "legal" gun ownership. As most stand you can not be convicted of a felony nor be convicted of violent crime or domestic abuse. Aside from those (True)

No, we could have a serious discussion on a few of those, but this OP is not about a serious discussion.

(5) Tax the poor (need definition of "poor")Hello dad:

Thanks. I don't know why Steve thinks its so hard.

The poor would be those people who the right wing referred to, when it made its revelation that 40% of the people DON'T pay taxes. That wasn't too long ago.

excon

Hello dad:

Thanks. I dunno why Steve thinks its so hard.

The poor would be those people who the right wing referred to, when it made its revelation that 40% of the people DON'T pay taxes. That wasn't too long ago.

excon

Truth be told. Im for the "fair" tax myself. It would be nice to abolish the entire IRS and start new.

Hello dad:

Thanks. I dunno why Steve thinks its so hard.

Hard, no. Ridiculous, yes. The thrust of the thread is not engage in a debate but to paint conservatives with a broad, unreasonable, overly radical brush. I see no need to indulge you in that fantasy.

Hard, no. Ridiculous, yes. The thrust of the thread is not engage in a debate but to paint conservatives with a broad, unreasonable, overly radical brush. I see no need to indulge you in that fantasy.

Just maybe it's a way to understand where everyone is on the subjects to get a better understanding. Saying your conservative doesn't mean you agree with everything out there. The question was left openended.

Just maybe its a way to understand where everyone is on the subjects to get a better understanding.

Nah, I'm way too familiar with ex's scheming ways.

Nah, I'm way too familiar with ex's scheming ways.

Sure but every once in awhile when you throw a curve it keeps everyone on their toes ;)

but to paint conservatives with a broad, unreasonable, overly radical brush. I see no need to indulge you in that fantasy.Hello again, Steve:

Wow. I don't know. I hear an awful lot of broad brushing from your side. Maybe they don't have talk radio down where you live. Seems to me like I hear words like socialists, marxists, communists, nazis and the like coming from your side?? You don't hear that?? Dude!

excon

Sure but every once in awhile when you throw a curve it keeps everyone on thier toes ;)

He only throws knuckleballs. :D

Wow. I dunno. I hear an awful lot of broad brushing from your side. Maybe they don't have talk radio down where you live. Seems to me like I hear words like socialists, marxists, communists, nazis and the like coming from your side??? You don't hear that??? Dude!

As opposed to elected Democrats calling their constituents, the people who pay their salary, "nuts (http://www.timesleader.com/news/Kanjo__Barletta_spar_over__lsquo_nuts_rsquo__07-01-2010.html)?"

As opposed to elected Democrats calling their constituents, the people who pay their salary, "nuts (http://www.timesleader.com/news/Kanjo__Barletta_spar_over__lsquo_nuts_rsquo__07-01-2010.html)?"
What's wrong there? That guy is right.

What's wrong there? That guy is right.

Oh I get it, nothing like what Democrats do.

Democrats looking for new Republican ‘macaca’ moments (http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/29/democrats-looking-for-new-republican-macaca-moments/)

You seek out blogs by fanatics. I'm not sure why. I don't care really.
The "nuts" thing you posted involved two nuts, not the "left" and the "right". I see no need to indulge you in that fantasy.

True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:

(1) Repeal health care, repeal the current scam that has forced laws like taxing tanning booths and has already caused health care costs to go up 25 to 50 percent. Under the current laws going into effect most people will no longer have insurance in a few years since they can't afford it. There is nothing in the new law making it affordable, just taxing and requiring coverage.

(2) Privatize Social Security, since the government has spent all the money, there is no money to move over to make it private. Had a private company done what the government did, their CEO would be in jail. And people are forced to pay in, with no written contract that they will ever be paid back this money or that they will even get any retirement plan. If I started taking peoples money, and said well maybe, if I have not spent all the money and went broke I will pay you when you retire at a certain age ( but I can change that age anytime I want) would anyone be stupid enough to invest with me?

(3) Turn Medicare over the insurance companies, there are already medicare advantage plans, for the same money Medicare takes, they provide more and better services, So it has already worked

(4) End unemployment insurance compensation, no, just make sure there are ways to pay for it

(5) Tax the poor , fair tax, taxes everyone on things they buy, the real poor will have credits toward the basis of life

(6) Bomb Iran, Level several cities there like we did Japan in WWII, and do it again and again, till they give up, we either need to fight a war, or decide to surrender

(7) Overturn Roe v Wade, Even Roe, wants it overturned, The supreme court never should have ruled on it, this was and still should be a state rights issue, But allowing controlled murder is also not constitutional, ( right to life and liberty) the baby has lost its rights

(8) Deregulate Wall Street, depends on what regulations

(9) Overturn Brown v Board of Education,

(10) Overturn Giddeon v Wainwright

(11) Overturn Miranda, don't really have to, it has been weakened and weakened over the years. If anything it needs to be addressed.
But it also does not need to apply to war zones and our enemy in battle

(12) Repeal the Civil Rights Act.. no but not use it to give special and additional rights to minorities. Equal, not special

(13) Repeal ALL gun laws. some law abiding citizens have a constitutional right to own guns, states and cities can not or should not be allowed to stop them from exercising constitutional rights

*** Enforce immigration laws ***

I'm sure there's MORE you'd do. Let me know what I forgot.

excon[/QUOTE]

You seek out blogs by fanatics. I'm not sure why. I don't care really.

What? What fanatic blog would you be referring to? So far today I've linked to 3 news sites.

Decisions, decisions

There is no Social Security Retirement benefits in Russia. There is no Unemployment Insurance in Russia. At least America STILL has both to fall back on.

Quite honestly I would not repeal or end anything on your list except health care which is more like nonhealth care or death care.. That item took too long to finally jam through to a yes vote. Why didn't Congress vote on something for the masses instead of the insurance companies? Still scratching my head on that one.

AND put God back into the schools please. Having to select a passage out of the bible in the morning and reading it was one thing I remember from my childhood. So what's so wrong with that practice? We are raising a generation of god hating children who have no morals or values at all.

True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:

(1) Repeal health care

(3) Turn Medicare over the insurance companies

1 ,2, and 3 are the same issue . Like you ,if I had my way ,I would negotiate fees directly with the caregiver. Insurance would be for catastrophic care and if the government was involved at all it would perhaps help in creating incentives for people to save into a health care account.
The poor would be eligible for care under a safety net program. But that is an unrelated issue. I would not create a massive government run program to administer health care.

Social Security is a reality and so is Medicare. It would be grossly unfair to screw the people who have paid into these abominations all these years. I would gurarantee their benefits ,but would phase them out for new workers .

Both programs are headed for a train wreck and are unsustainable as is . Increasing the scope of these programs is folly.

Will deal with the rest later

(4) End unemployment insurance compensation

No However you know as well as I that it is a double edged sword and acts as a disincentive in some cases for job seekers. The true numbers of unemployed recenty have been vastly understated because many people having their unemployment benefits extended have stopped seeking employment .

5.Tax the poor . Yes ,as cruel as it sounds I think everyone with income should have some skin in the game if there is going to be an income tax . The poor do get taxed .Every purchase the poor makes gets taxed . But you aren't talking about that tax... you are talking about income tax . There should be no taxes at all on income for anyone .

More to come.

True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:

(1) Repeal health care If the government is to provide health care, let it do so instead of forcing me to subsidize Aetna

(2) Privatize Social Security I'm 50+, I'll never see it.

(3) Turn Medicare over the the insurance companies Already happening.

(4) End unemployment insurance compensationPrivatize it and require employers to have it just like liability.

(5) Tax the poor They already are being taxed. Make it more equitable, yes.

(6) Bomb Iran "Make a desert and call it Peace" They declared war in 1979.

(7) Overturn Roe v Wade Get the government out of the practice of medicine altogether

(8) Deregulate Wall StreetYou pays your money and you takes your chances. Fraud is still fraud.

(9) Overturn Brown v Board of Education If that's what it takes to eliminate reverse discrimination as well as the original

(10) Overturn Giddeon v Wainwright Given the con game the legal profession has become, this one is necessary

(11) Overturn Miranda See # 10. In U.S. Courts regarding U.S. laws

(12) Repeal the Civil Rights Act.. Which one? 1866? 1875? 1960? 1964? 2009?

(13) Repeal ALL gun laws. Nope. Leave the 2nd amendment.

(14) **** Put prayer BACK in the public square **** (edited - how could I have forgotten THIS?) Wouldn't you like to put a manora on your lawn?

There are a couple more I'd like to eliminate: The IRS, the NEA, the concept of confinement as punishment, stuff like that.

Wouldn't you like to put a manora on your lawn? There are a couple more I'd like to eliminate: The IRS, the NEA, the concept of confinement as punishment, stuff like that.Hello Cats:

Interesting... What would you do? Reinstate stocks? By the way, my lawn is NOT public. If it was, I SHOULDN'T be able to put a manora there.

excon

Hello Cats:

Interesting... What would you do? Reinstate stocks? By the way, my lawn is NOT public. If it was, I SHOULDN'T be able to put a manora there.

excon

But it's visible to the public. Lawsuits have been won on that basis. I'm not about to put a pentagram on mine.

As far as punishment goes, I want restitution made rather than supporting the miscreant. If restituition cannot be made, bullets are cheap.

6. Bomb Iran.. I am on record pf preferring regime change . Bombing although completely justified would only be a last resort .

7.Overturn Roe v Wade . Absolutely there is no Constitutional basis for the law or the taking of innocent life.

8. Deregulate Wall Street. Not completely ,but determine which regulations help the consumer and which ones put a needless monkey wrench into business practices and ironically create the very conditons you would like to prevent.

9. Brown v Board reversed an activist court's misreading of the amendments that followed the Civil War.

10 and 11 Cat's answer is the correct response. The court periodically adjusts these rulings anyway.

12. No ;my name isn't either Ron or Rand Paul. The Courts periodically address the unintended consequences to the Act . Like ALL comprehensive legislation there is some worth keeping ,some needing adjustment and some unconstitutional . For that reason alone I object to comprehensive legislation.

13. There is nothing wrong with registering requirements.

14. Imagine that... 234 years of independence with people freely praying on the public square and celebrating faith... and for the most part no one objected or thought it necessary to deny them their civil religious rights as identifed in the very 1st amendment to the Constitition (free exercise... and the right to peaceful assembly for that matter ).

That about covers it.

14. Imagine that ....234 years of independence with people freely praying on the public square and celebrating faith ...and for the most part no one objected or thought it necessary to deny them their civil religious rights as identifed in the very 1st amendment to the Constitition (free exercise ...and the right to peaceful assembly for that matter ).

That about covers it.Hello again, tom:

When I recited prayer in public school, it wasn't MY faith that was celebrated. It was YOURS. If I was free, as you say I am, that would NOT have been imposed upon me. But it WAS, and you'd do it again. I don't know why. I believe in religious FREEDOM too.

That about covers it.

excon

You didn't ask about prayers in school . You said prayers in the public square .

(6) Bomb Iran, Level several cities there like we did Japan in WWII, and do it again and again, till they give up

What part of the gospel would you cite for this? Just asking.

you didn't ask about prayers in school . You said prayers in the public square .Hello again, tom:

Yeah. I should have been more specific.

excon

Hello again, tom:

Yeah. I shoulda been more specific.

excon

I was bemused by your changing it from school to square. I don't think prayers in school violate anyone's rights. The mandatory part is what's unConstitutional.