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sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 02:08 PM
My grandma died in 2008 in southern California. My mother was the executor of the will and each of us grandkids were to receive 200,000 when we turn 24. But my mother said the ecomony was bad and the accounts were losing money so she gave it to us early in which she gave my brother the full 200,000 but only gave my sister and I 150,000 (my sister less) saying she needed to take out 50,000 thousand for inheritance tax. If this was true then why did my brother not have to pay taxes but my sister and I did? And also something doesn't seem right since I never received anything for paying my taxes on it. Did my mom rip us off?

cdad
Jul 2, 2010, 02:17 PM
For one thing you wouldn't receive anything for paying "your" taxes on it. The "estate" is what paid the taxes. Now as far as the split of money goes. Its hard to say what someone else was thinking. There may have been some prorated amounts going on. Have you spoken to your mom and asked for a possible accounting of the money?

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 02:51 PM
Yes and she said that we each got 200,000 but 50 thousand WE had to pay inheritance taxes on for our half of it. Why did my brother not have to pay any inheritance taxes when the will stated we each get 200,000, and if my sister and I had to pay taces in our names why would we get proof of it considering the taxes were said to be paid in our names? From my understanding California doesn't even have inheritance taxes, only estate with my grandmothers estate already paid for.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 02:55 PM
Also my mom claims that the taxes were paid under My and my sisters names. Why wouldn't we beable to get proof of that if that was the case. My main point is nothing my mother says adds up and when I confronted her with this she get defensive and said its all her money anyway. I am not greedy its not fair that me and my sister only got 150 and my brother 200 when the reasoning for that was inheritance tax. It doesn't make sense.

cdad
Jul 2, 2010, 02:56 PM
If there was one chunk of money like $600,000. And it was said to be split between the three siblings and the money was in stocks or whatever. Then the cash value that was returned is whatever it is. Lets say 620k and then estate taxes were applied of 50k. That would leave 570k. The split should have been from there. Has your mom stated why it wasn't split that way? It sounds like equal portions were intended by the wills instructions.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:02 PM
She won't say and that's why I am suspicious. Either she played favorites or wanted more for herself. Considering she emptied the rest of my grandmas accounts for her expenses, and told my sister and I she needed to borrow money from us to pay off the rest of the "taxes". Im just really upset cause the will clearly states we each get 200,000 thousand and despite receiving the inheritance early due to the economy, the amount did not changed but we were forced to pay these "taxes" that California doesn't even have.

ScottGem
Jul 2, 2010, 03:02 PM
As a beneficiary under the will, you are entitled to an accounting of the estate.

There are no inheritance taxes for CA. If the estate owed taxes, then those taxes are paid from the estate BEFORE any distributions were made.

You also need to know what the will said. If the will specified that the estate should be divided equally, then that's what should have happened. If the will made specific $200K bequests, and the estate was losing money making it impossible to fund those bequests, then they should have been prorated.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:05 PM
My grandma had a trust fund account for money our inheritance was in she had more then enough to pay us out what she wanted to give us which was 200,000. So the amount was secure if that makes sense.

cdad
Jul 2, 2010, 03:07 PM
My grandma had a trust fund account for money our inheritance was in she had more then enough to pay us out what she wanted to give us which was 200,000. so the amount was secure if that makes sense.

As Scott has said you have a legal right to answers and a full accounting of what went on. Have you ever received a copy of the will ?

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:07 PM
Nothing ever lost money besides my moms retirement fund she just wanted to liquidate my grandmas accounts, so basically she emptied the accounts before they would "lose money" which I think she did for her own benefit.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:10 PM
I have seen it and have been read it. But now my mom refuses to give me any documentation or information now. Her and her husband have blown through THOUSANDS of dollars since then right in front of my eyes. So it just appears to me this is foul play and they won't give me any info because of it. But yet I supposedly paid taxes that don't even exist? I'm just curious on what to do its not right that my sister and I got cheated.

cdad
Jul 2, 2010, 03:17 PM
The taxes are on a "federal" level. Maybe you have been missing on that part.

Estate Tax / Inheritance Tax & Gift Taxes (http://www.themoneyalert.com/Estate-Tax.html)

Federal Estate and Gift Taxes (http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10841/Estate_GiftTax_Brief.shtml)

Btw. How old are you?

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:36 PM
And if your wondering I still have all my inheritance from 2 years ago so its not about greed and me trying to get more money, I have just spent 2 years watching my mother DETROY my grandmothers estate she built through hard work and saving. And my brother blew his all on drugs. This is just not right I got lied to and cheated out my the money my grandma wanted me to have

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:47 PM
I was 19 at the time, and I am 21 now. If that's the case then why would my mom say inheritance tax and only tax me and my sister if it was federal tax.

JudyKayTee
Jul 2, 2010, 03:50 PM
I was 19 at the time, and i am 21 now. if thats the case then why would my mom say inheritance tax and only tax me and my sister if it was federal tax.


No one knows the answer to this except your mother - ask her. If that fails, retain an Attorney and have someone get copies of all of the estate papers.

It is possible that the estate did not have sufficient funds to give each of you the promised amount. If that is the case what WAS there should have been divided equally.

What your brother did with the money is really none of your business.

Why would your mother say or do anything? Ask her.

If this is not about greed then you won't be able to sue because you can only sue for money.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:51 PM
My main point is we were all set for the 200,000 thousand but I was told that we had to pay 50,000 for inheritance taxes that don't even exist in California and my brother would have been required to pay that to but he wasn't. No federal or estate taxes mentioned, my mom said I could use it as a tax write off which is why I'm wondering about proof of paying it but clearly no taxes were ever paid.

JudyKayTee
Jul 2, 2010, 03:54 PM
I get your main point. Did you get mine?

Ask your mother - no one here knows why anybody does anything "they" do. Maybe she said that to shut you up. I don't know.

Consult with an Attorney, review the estate documents.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 03:56 PM
Um actually both him and my mom have substance abuse problems so that is why I brought up a possible reason for him getting more money. Do not tell me its none of my business. I just wanted an answer to my question but you guys want these details so I'm giving it to you. I just wanted some advice on what to do. No need to be rude I can say what I want about my brother since he was trying to get into MY inheritance.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 04:31 PM
Im new to this OK. I live in Washington state now so its not like I can just go down there to the probate court. I didn't ask for tax advise I'm asking for a opinion of a executer acting unfair basically since there was no inheritance tax. This is not

meganclevenger
Jul 2, 2010, 05:30 PM
Judykaytee this is just a website not a courtroom no one committed purgery here. Leave my friend alone. Report her if your so concerned about us trying to get simple answers for our questions. Just back off oviously she has enough on her plate alread

meganclevenger
Jul 2, 2010, 05:54 PM
Judy you are hilarious! If you have a problem with Sydney then simply don't answer her questions. You are the one who is insulting and rude, Just stop.

Fr_Chuck
Jul 2, 2010, 07:33 PM
If you thought the others were out of line, you are going to love mine, first you have no right to demand anything here, people have tried and tried to help you.

Perhaps the reason they cheated you was because they figured they could and you would not do anything about it or not be smart enough to figure it out.

People have told you,

You have the right to go though the court for a full accounting of all the money paid out of the estate. Either you, or you with an attorney not ask ( who gives a flip if you nicely ask) you demand in court for an accounting of the entire trust money and how it was given out.

ScottGem
Jul 2, 2010, 07:33 PM
I would like to thank the first two people who tried to answer my dilemma considering now its clear that my question will remain unanswered due to this page reaking of immaturity and unnecessary insults. People just need to stop instigating problems when there input is not appreciated or wanted.

Sydney, you are WAY out of line here. You asked a question that we just can't answer. We have no idea what your mother did as executor of your grandmother's estate. We have no idea whether she acted properly in her role as executor or not.

The best and only advice we can give is to demand an accounting of the estate, that is your right. If your mother refuses, then you need to retain an attorney to force her to provide it. It's possible that all of this has been recorded with the probate court, in which case, you can try to get the documents yourself or retain an attorney to do so. This is what Judy and others were trying to tell you. Instead of wasting your time and ours repeating the same question that we can't answer.

You also mention that your grandmother set up a trust fund for you and your two siblings. Do you know how those funds were invested? Its certainly possible that the investments were losing money and that's why your mom liquidated them early.

As for taxation, if taxes were taken unequally from each sibling's share of the trust that would certainly appear to be a problem. But the only way to resolve it is to get an accounting of the trust. And if mom won't give it to you you need to retain an attorney to force her to.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here that this whole thing was not a put up job to make trouble. The fact that you created another ID and used it to attack Judy, is a serious breach of ethics as well as a violation of our rules. That second ID has now been banned. You have also violated our rules by launching an unwarranted personal attack against one of our members. As I said, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But you owe Judy an apology and if one is not forthcoming, I will assume this WAS a put up job and will act accordingly.

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https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedback/using-comments-feature-24951.html

Your giving a negative comment to an accurate statement of fact is another violation of our rules.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 07:50 PM
I accidentally clicked disagree on judy, as I said before I am new to this site. And no I did not create another account to attack judy, she responded to another question that was asked by my friend on my account and blew that out of porportion as well. So she made her own account since in doing so was in violations of the rules, according to judy. I came for advice and you are completely attacking me. What are your rules for members being flat out rude to people just asking questions? I don't appreciate any of this and for you guys to attack me is out of line. You asked me questions about my problem I gave you details, and judy decided to be rude so I got offended and then she furthered her actions onto another one of my questions. Bottom Line. I have a right to defend myself from being attacked when MY question is being ridiculed by a member who doesn't want to leave it be.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 07:55 PM
People asked me for details to clarify the matter and I gave it to them, Don't undermine my intelligence because I feel I was deceived. It's a website for advice not rude accusations and people acting like they are above me cause I'm confused about a ma

ScottGem
Jul 2, 2010, 08:01 PM
I reviewed the other threads and I cannot find anything that justifies your claims about being attacked or people being rude to you.

Since you are new to this I will continue to give you the benefit of the doubt. I will give you a chance to apologize to Judy and if you do I will reinstate the other account. But I will make myself clear the initial rudeness and only real rudeness was on your part. You could have avoided this by allowing your friend to start her own account and post her own question from the start. You could have read the rules like you said you did when you signed on. You could have browsed around a bit and seen how to use this site before jumping in.

Instead you did none of those things and when Judy gave you good advice you attacked her.

So the ball is in your court now. Apologize for your actions and we will put it behind us.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 08:01 PM
OK that was all I was looking for regarding my question. I didn't mean to disagree with judy, I clicked it on accident and there is no where for me to counteract it, I looked. No account by me was made to attack judy. My friend made her own account si

sydneyfantastic
Jul 2, 2010, 08:28 PM
Basically telling me I'm just stupid and that's why I got ripped off isn't a attack? Fr chuck I believe. So just ban my account to, I don't need to justify myself anymore.

ScottGem
Jul 3, 2010, 03:06 AM
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sydneyfantastic : I am not interested in apologizing to judy, and the other account is not my problem, its meg's. I feel we can both benefit by seeking advice somewhere else. I do not feel attacked for no reason, oviously your one sided with other "experts" and I want

If you believe I'm one sided, then you know nothing about me. If you believe you will find better answers elsewhere, good luck to you. I doubt if you will get any different answers anywhere else.

I will say I have no doubt, you felt attacked. That doesn't mean you WERE attacked. One of the drawbacks of this form of communication is that the written word comprises only about 30% of communication. We lack the visual cues of tone of voice, facial expression and body language that make up most of communication. Its not that unusual for people to take offense when no offense was intended or overt. And that's what I see happened here. You took offense when there was none and started getting defensive and attacked others unnecessarily.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 3, 2010, 10:34 AM
"shutting you up" "if you thought the others were out of line your going to love mine" "maybe they knew you were to stupid to figure it out" Right.. I researched this website and it is NOTORIOUS for abuse by so called experts. If I could delete this

ScottGem
Jul 3, 2010, 02:40 PM
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sydneyfantastic : "shutting you up" "if you thought the others were out of line your going to love mine" "maybe they knew you were to stupid to figure it out" Right.. I researched this website and it is NOTORIOUS for abuse by so called experts. If I could delete this

Where did you do this so-called "research"? There are some people who have bashed this site because they were banned for violating its rules. Such people have alleged abuse that has never been proven! That you refer to this makes me believe it WAS a put up job. That you were just looking to start trouble.

This thread has now been closed.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 3, 2010, 03:16 PM
Wow. I found this website for free advise, assumed it was from people licensed in law considering its illegal to give legal advise otherwise and found that you think its OK to be completely rude in your answers and act unprofessionally. And now you de

sydneyfantastic
Jul 3, 2010, 04:37 PM
Scott then BAN ME its really disappointing that every time I check my email there's an alert to another fabricated story you claim! No proof? People that complained are the proof! Like I really have no life and went out of my way to cause trouble on a advic

ScottGem
Jul 4, 2010, 04:06 PM
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sydneyfantastic : Wow. I found this website for free advise, assumed it was from people licensed in law considering its illegal to give legal advise otherwise and found that you think its OK to be completely rude in your answers and act unprofessionally. And now you de

If you had read the Terms of Service as you agreed to when you signed up you would not have made these false assumptions. The TOS states how experts are chosen.

Secondly, if you had spent time browsing around as I suggested you would have learned the comments feature is NOT to be used to post followups As you can see the number of characters in a comment is limited.

Also I don't know where you got the idea that giving legal advise is illegal. It is illegal to claim to be a lawyer when you are not. But one does not need to be admitted to the bar to be able to read and interpret laws. Before you criticize people for something you really need to verify your facts.

Finally. I never said its OK to be rude, what I said was no one was rude to you, at least not until you acted rudely yourself. As you continue to do by making false accusations. The facts here are that your questions were answered to the best of our ability, given the nature of the questions. Yet you kept repeating the question. When this was pointed out to you, you started to get rude and defensive.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 4, 2010, 11:11 PM
Hahahaha get a life! It is illegal I asked a lawyer! You probably work as a plummer for a living and pretend to be a expert.. I mean who has all this time to be online..

sydneyfantastic
Jul 4, 2010, 11:11 PM
Take your own ADVISE and NO NOT post follow ups yourself! Buhbye.

sydneyfantastic
Jul 4, 2010, 11:15 PM
One who is NOT LICENSED as a lawyer CANNOT give legal advise to others, especially on a site like this. I got my facts.. GET YOURS. Amazing what a simple phone call does.

ScottGem
Jul 5, 2010, 05:55 AM
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sydneyfantastic : hahahaha get a life! It is illegal I asked a lawyer! You probably work as a plummer for a living and pretend to be a expert.. I mean who has all this time to be online..

So typical. You can't take the truth so you lash out at people telling you the truth. And you post falsehoods to do so. I don't believe you asked a lawyer since I know there is no law that says a non lawyer can't answer legal questions. If a lawyer told you that it is then they weren't much of a lawyer.

I don't pretend to be anything other than what I am. And that is someone who has accumulated a lot of knowledge over the years and enjoys sharing that knowledge with others.

And since you insist on violating our rules, I'm ending this right now.