Would you like bruises with that? MP Paul Gibson bashed in McDonald's carpark | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national/would-you-like-bruises-with-that-mp-paul-gibson-bashed-in-mcdonalds-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1225885901903)

In a bizzaire exhibition of cowardise, apparently an american attacked an Australian politician in a car park shouting "this is how we do it in america". A short while ago a question was ask why do they hate us, I think perhaps you have an answer from one of your own

This is how you do it in Australia ? Running over someone's foot helping you park the car ?

So... let me get this straight... he was in la la land but remembers every detail of the confrontation... Possible broken ribs and shoulders barely conscious ,but got in a shot that bloodied his attacker .There is a sense of the unbelievable in his narrative ;as if there are large chunks of detail left out.

On another version of the story he was attacked by a CIA agent .


"People pulled him off me in the end and apparently one fellow came back to see me and said 'He's just showed me an ID which makes out he's a secret American agent," Mr Gibson told 2UE today.
Labor MP 'attacker' claimed to be special agent, carrying a gun (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/labor-mp-attacker-claimed-to-be-special-agent-carrying-a-gun-20100630-zk3d.html)

In this version the gun the guy had turns out to be a gun license.

"We haven't identified any witnesses who've seen a firearm," Detective Inspector Banfield said.

He blows his horn at the guy and calls it a "friendly toot" .Usually the friendly toot in America is accompanied with a friendly single digit salute.

I have my suspicions about the incident . What day and time did that soccer match the Aussies lost end ? Was this MP a juiced up socceroo ?

This is how you do it in Australia ? Running over someone's foot helping you park the car ?

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Of course you would defend the indefensable, a senior citizen is attacked by an american lout, and for what, maybe running over the foot of a person who had ample opportunity to get out of the way, he was directing the vehicle into a parking space, and yes, here, if someone needs to know that another vehicle is nearby we might gently touch the horn for a moment to attact their attention. We are not so up ourselves as to take offence at it. Also, of course you would defend yourself if you had the opportunity particularly if you thought the person was trying to kill you. The fact that the guy directed the senior citizen into the parking space suggests he was behaving in an unusual, perhaps, sarcastic manner before he went bisserk. Had this been america the senior citizen would have pulled out a gun and shot him.

I didn't post the other report about the "special agent", which came with a grinning photo ,as if that would give him any rights. If the guy said it, it makes him even more of a loney than he comes across as from attacking from behind. But he will be apprehended there is nothing so obvious as an black american in our society and I don't doubt, since he assaulted a member of the government, he will not only be charged with GBH but he might receive some himself along the way. This is the way we do it in Australia. We don't call them wollopers for nothing

I just wanted to point out just how ugly americans come across when they are out of their natural habitat, it might enlighten some of the folks back home.

The soccer match referred to was days ago and Australians don't get juiced up over soccer which after all is a foreign game played by those who can't get into a rugby team

Yeah yeah I know about the cliché "ugly American" . I wonder if his behavior rises to the level of the thug Aussie Bra Boys surfers who defend their beach turf against foreigners... or Aussie geezers in Thailand .
WA man accused of assaulting Thai girls (http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/wa-man-accused-of-assaulting-thai-girls-20100630-zmh9.html)

Yeah yeah I know about the cliche "ugly American" . I wonder if his behavior rises to the level of the thug Aussie Bra Boys surfers who defend their beach turf against foreigners .......or Aussie geezers in Thailand .
WA man accused of assaulting Thai girls (http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/wa-man-accused-of-assaulting-thai-girls-20100630-zmh9.html)

I have no doubt his behaviour stems from the same loutish source because it seems we are not immune to this sort of thing anywhere in the world, but still no excuse for straight out thuggery. I have no doubt you are familiar with the term ugly american, it is certainly, in my experience, more than a cliché, and you cannot place a racial violence event where people have been deliberately stirred up in the same league as a violent and cowardly attack on a senior citizen

Did you take the trouble to read that article the accused was a local resident, not a tourist, and from his name very likely a migrant anyway, stop clutching at straws and cop it.

You paint with a broad brush equating the behavior of a single American who may or may not have been provoked and yet excuse a pattern of behavior by beach gangs as a racial violence event where people have been deliberately stirred up as if that justifies their thuggery. By your logic then this African-American was justifed in this beat down because he was provoked by a person of a different race. And do you really think this is the way a typical American tourist behaves ?

I don't believe the narrative here . He helps the MP steer his car into the parking spot so he can beat the snot out of the guy ? Come on !Is that really believable ?

Would you like bruises with that? MP Paul Gibson bashed in McDonald's carpark | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national/would-you-like-bruises-with-that-mp-paul-gibson-bashed-in-mcdonalds-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1225885901903)

In a bizzaire exhibition of cowardise, apparently an american attacked an Australian politician in a car park shouting "this is how we do it in america". A short while ago a question was ask why do they hate us, I think perhaps you have an answer from one of your own

By your logic, we now have justification to hate all Muslims because of one Muslim.

No, the accounts don't add up here Clete. Your account says, "He said the man grabbed him by the throat, threw him into the bonnet of a 4WD and smashed his head on the cement," and "the man repeatedly said "this is how we do it in America" as he pounded Mr Gibson's head."

This account (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/labor-mp-attacker-claimed-to-be-special-agent-carrying-a-gun-20100630-zk3d.html) says a whole lot more about him being pounded in the head, yet the only report of injuries is "Mr Gibson said he had some broken ribs and was still "passing a bit of blood".

This account (http://hornsby-advocate.whereilive.com.au/news/story/hornsby-police-seek-this-man-over-bashing-of-blacktown-mp-gibson/) says, "Mr Gibson received cuts and bruises to his shoulders and ribs."

If as he said, "he was getting my head and smashing it into the gutter," there'd be some serious head injuries to report.

Hello:

So, the most important current event we have to talk about is THIS?? Dudes! What about Brittany Spears??

excon

I was thinking about Boris and Natashya being busted after the President and Putin's poodle had the hamburger summit.

You paint with a broad brush equating the behavior of a single American who may or may not have been provoked and yet excuse a pattern of behavior by beach gangs as a racial violence event where people have been deliberately stirred up as if that justifies their thuggery. By your logic then this African-American was justifed in this beat down because he was provoked by a person of a different race. And do you really think this is the way a typical American tourist behaves ?

I don't believe the narrative here . He helps the MP steer his car into the parking spot so he can beat the snot out of the guy ? Come on !Is that really believable ?

Sometimes I think you are a raving idiot, who suggested this is anything but a misunderstanding, but the over the top assult of a senior citizen is not justified under any circumstance. Now as far as the bra boys is concerned they were provoked by roving gangs of islamic youth looking for trouble, the actions of either side are not excusable, but it is probable there was history between the two groups and in any case it has to be seen in the wider perspective of what was happening elsewhere on that day. There was no such history between the black american lout and the senior citizen and it is to be hoped that american tourists are not so poorly behaved that this is the norm, but they got their reputation for a reason and it is usually because they think they can do what the like. We don't settle minor disputes with gratorious violence and we certainly don't attack someone when they aren't looking, that is the act of a coward and a criminal

Hello:

So, the most important current event we have to talk about is THIS???? Dudes! What about Brittany Spears???

excon

Ex when you have a slow week as we have had around here lately what do you expect? The reality is we have done the current events to death and who wants to talk about Brittany Spears anyway, obviously not you because you haven't started a thread

What I really find hard to believe is a geezer MP lowering himself by patronizing an American francise like Micky D's . The violent reaction was due to something they added to the McWallaby.

By your logic, we now have justification to hate all Muslims because of one Muslim.

No, the accounts don't add up here Clete. Your account says, "He said the man grabbed him by the throat, threw him into the bonnet of a 4WD and smashed his head on the cement," and "the man repeatedly said "this is how we do it in America" as he pounded Mr Gibson's head."

This account (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/labor-mp-attacker-claimed-to-be-special-agent-carrying-a-gun-20100630-zk3d.html) says a whole lot more about him being pounded in the head, yet the only report of injuries is "Mr Gibson said he had some broken ribs and was still "passing a bit of blood".

This account (http://hornsby-advocate.whereilive.com.au/news/story/hornsby-police-seek-this-man-over-bashing-of-blacktown-mp-gibson/) says, "Mr Gibson received cuts and bruises to his shoulders and ribs."

If as he said, "he was getting my head and smashing it into the gutter," there'd be some serious head injuries to report.

How much is journalistc licence and how much is fact we will not know until the matter gets into a court but there are some inescapable facts

A senior citizen, a person of some reputation in the community, was assulted in a very violent manner.

The perpretrator of this crime, and it most certainly was what you would call a felony assult, was apparently a vistor, a an american tourist, who may or may not be armed, and may or may not have dangerous delusions.

If he was armed, there will be other charges as it is illegal to carry a conceiled weapon in Australia, whether you have a licence or not.

So, the most important current event we have to talk about is THIS???? Dudes! What about Brittany Spears???

Who?

I was pondering how the media suddenly became defenders of states' rights since SCOTUS affirmed the 2nd amendment. Or how 90% of Al Sharpton's listeners agreed with Clarence Thomas (http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2010/06/al-sharpton-my-listeners-overwhelmingly.html).

Or, how about Kagan’s Abortion Distortion (http://article.nationalreview.com/437296/kagans-abortion-distortion/shannen-w-coffin) in which she manipulated a statement the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in arguing against Nebraska's partial birth abortion ban which SCOTUS struck down.

I don't know, just a hunch, paraclete, you seem like a biased reporter... just saying.

I was pondering how the media suddenly became defenders of states' rights since SCOTUS affirmed the 2nd amendment.Hello Steve:

The lamestream media are lapdogs... Sarah Palin has it right... But, it should come as no surprise that we think the lapdogs are lapdoggin to different people.

For example, the debate over waterboarding. It's been the subject of press attention for over a century. From the early 1930s until the modern story broke in 2004, the newspapers that covered waterboarding almost uniformly called the practice torture or implied it was torture. The New York Times characterized it thus in 81.5% (44 of 54) of articles on the subject and The Los Angeles Times did so in 96.3% of articles (26 of 27).

By contrast, from 2002‐2008, these newspapers almost never referred to waterboarding as torture. The New York Times called waterboarding torture or implied it was torture in just 2 of 143 articles (1.4%). The Los Angeles Times did so in 4.8% of articles (3 of 63). The Wall Street Journal characterized the practice as torture in just 1 of 63 articles (1.6%). USA Today never called waterboarding torture or implied it was torture.

So, Rudy Giuliani was right. Waterboarding is torture depending on WHO'S doing it, and WHO'S reporting it.

excon

How much is journalistc licence

Or victim's license and journalistic incompetence.


the perpretrator of this crime, and it most certainly was what you would call a felony assult, was apparently a vistor, a an american tourist, who may or may not be armed, and may or may not have dangerous delusions.

Well, I still like our Australian friends in spite of you, Clete. ;)

The MP should've pulled out one of them Paul Hogan knives.

The lamestream media are lapdogs... Sarah Palin has it right... But, it should come as no surprise that we think the lapdogs are lapdoggin to different people

LOL, I'm with Breibart (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2010/06/29/reward-100000-for-full-journolist-archive-source-fully-protected/) on this one, I'd like to see Journolist's archives. The lamestream media media isn't lapdogging my people.

I don't know, just a hunch, paraclete, you seem like a biased reporter.... just sayin.
Both sides are in this thread.

True, yes they are :)

But only one was the reporter.

This is true, that is why I said biased "reporter" ;)

this is true, that is why I said biased "reporter" ;)

Thank you :)

What I really find hard to believe is a geezer MP lowering himself by patronizing an American francise like Micky D's . The violent reaction was due to something they added to the McWallaby.

What! You don't believe in american marketing now? Any person travelling might conveniently use a Mcdonald's they are as prolific as blowflies in our towns and cities and very convenient as public toilets

I don't know, just a hunch, paraclete, you seem like a biased reporter.... just sayin.

I wouldn't even have mentioned it excepting for the bizzaire statement made by the lout and I thought you might like to comment on what your citizens get up to when out of the gaze of their fellows, or is this sort of behaviour common place in the USA. Instead you find it convenient to shoot the messenger

The MP should've pulled out one of them Paul Hogan knives.

Yes Tom that's the way, encourage violence and mayhem. It may surprise you to know that assaults like this are very uncommon in our society. It isn't the average american tourist that goes around thumping people shouting this is the way we do it in america and so we don't feel the need to be armed to protect ourselves from american idiots and thugs with delusional tendencies who frequent McDonald's carparks. I know americans don't understand humour but Paul Hogan was a character actor/comedian and entirely unrepresentative of Australian bushmen

You mean Crocodile Dundee isn't real ? Crikey !

My problem is that we are constantly lectured that the actions of the individual doesn't represent the group and we therefore shouldn't make conclusions or broad generalizations about the group from the acts of the individual .

But it's perfectly OK to broad brush all of us as ugly Americans based on the alleged actions of this guy who according to the one sided reports has anger management issues (oh I'm sure no Aussie ever brawls )

you mean Crocodile Dundee aint real ? crikey !

My problem is that we are constantly lectured that the actions of the individual doesn't represent the group and we therefore shouldn't make conclusions or broad generalizations about the group from the acts of the individual .

But it's perfectly ok to broad brush all of us as ugly Americans based on the alleged actions of this guy who according to the one sided reports has anger management issues (oh I'm sure no Aussie ever brawls )

I happen to think the actions of the individual does mirror the group and your countrymen appearently think so too otherwise why would they have destroyed Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11. There is a double standard here where you judge others by the actions of individuals but when we flip the coin you want to allege that the actions of the individual doesn't mirror the group. Let's take this american thug we were discussing, obviously he comes from a culture where his behaviour is a norm and may even be considered obligatory in some parts of his society. Okay I'll concede his behaviour and attitude may be confined to young black americans and as that makes him part of an oppressed minority I expect he should be excused. You forget he made a point of making sure his victim knew he was an american is if beating up a senior citizen is a thing of pride.

Now as to the aussie brawling issue, strangely enough it appears to be endemic among a group of misguided "black" indigenous youth who think black american culture is something to emulate, the rest of us have better things to do, usually confining our brawling to the sporting arena where we hand our merciless punishment to our opponents unless of course some luckless muslim happens to offer an opportunity

Let's take this american thug we were discussing, obviously he comes from a culture where his behaviour is a norm and may even be considered obligatory in some parts of his society. Okay I'll concede his behaviour and attitude may be confined to young black americans and as that makes him part of an oppressed minority I expect he should be excused.

You are full of presumption's, cliche's and stereotypes. You accused me previously of excusing his action and then in turn make excuses for him based on a stereotype you have of American blacks.
You are using this to bolster your own prejudices.
Why can't you admit that this is a very isolated case ;that it doesn't represent America or the majority of "black" America.

I wouldn't even have mentioned it excepting for the bizzaire statement made by the lout and I thought you might like to comment on what your citizens get up to when out of the gaze of their fellows, or is this sort of behaviour common place in the USA. Instead you find it convenient to shoot the messenger

I have traveled all over the world and never had any kind of incident like this. I'm a US citizen. Some of us behave well, and others behave differently. In fact, US citizens living within the US behave somewhat differently depending on what state or area of the country they are from. We are basically individuals here and what floats one's boat, may not float his neighbors.

I happen to think the actions of the individual does mirror the group...

I have two close friends in Australia right now that couldn't be more different than the perpetrator in this case. At least twice as many American tourists in Australia are kind, gentle, friendly and most appreciative of your land and people, than are violent and screaming "this is how we do it in America." Therefore, the group must be a pretty good bunch.

I have two close friends in Australia right now that couldn't be more different than the perpetrator in this case. At least twice as many American tourists in Australia are kind, gentle, friendly and most appreciative of your land and people, than are violent and screaming "this is how we do it in America." Therefore, the group must be a pretty good bunch.

What gets me in this is we welcome everyone who comes here legally and respects our laws and our people. We aren't interested in imposing our culture on anyoneelse, and we certainly don't want to know how you do it in america. I think we have shown time and time again we are ahead of the game even if we don't have some of your innovations. We live without the violence you experience in some parts.

I have traveled all over the world and never had any kind of incident like this. I'm a US citizen. Some of us behave well, and others behave differently. In fact, US citizens living within the US behave somewhat differently depending on what state or area of the country they are from. We are basically individuals here and what floats one's boat, may not float his neighbors.

I have travelled all over the world too and I have not experienced anything like this, even in some places that have a reputation for violence. Does this mean I haven't seen isolated incidents, no, but, what it makes me think is we need to improve our border protection and visa procedures to do background checks on US citizens like we do with people from certain other places.

What gets me in this is we welcome everyone who comes here legally and respects our laws and our people. We arn't interested in imposing our culture on anyoneelse, and we certainly don't want to know how you do it in america. I think we have shown time and time again we are ahead of the game even if we don't have some of your innovations. We live without the violence you experience in some parts.

Clete, what the heck does that have to do with what I said? I don't disrespect your country or your people, I have always considered you friends. Stop ragging on mine.

Hello clete:

I think he got beat up because of that sissy Aussie accent. It ain't American. If you come over here, you better speak American..

excon

I think he got beat up because of that sissy Aussie accent. It ain't American. If you come over here, you better speak American..

What is "American?" I speak Texan... and a little French. Almost all my neighbors speak Spanish... and English... and most, speak Texan. I love a solid North Carolina or Tennessee accent, as well as New Jersey. But those from Nebraska and north... sounds way too whiny. Oh, and on our last visit to San Diego, the hotel clerk was an Aussie. Loved listening to the dude talk.

Hello clete:

I think he got beat up because of that sissy Aussie accent. It ain't American. If you come over here, you better speak American..

excon

Hey ex up your nose with a rubber hose

Hey ex up your nose with a rubber hose

Ohhhhhh you're so tough, tough guy. Why not just boycott McDonalds and stop going there altogether. They just serve unadulterated poison for food with all the additives MSG, etc. washed down with aspartame (ant poison) soda. If you Aussies are so danged smart you'd boycott all fast foods but no, you too have been suckered into eating at fast food places. Pretty soon you'll be happily obese as well.

You're going to bash ALL Americans over what one rotten apple American did or said. Please. He must have been delusional or not taking his Prozac or taking his Prozac. You were not there. You have no idea just who's story was true or made up.

And telling my friend Exie that unspeakable insult tells me that you secretly HATE all Americans. And just as I had clocked you months ago you just LOVE to American bash every single chance you get. Well, why don't you go bash folks elsewhere. I, for one, am really, really tired of your American bashing of our President (that's for US to bash - not someone from a totally different country to bash - we get first dibbs on any of our lame and retarded presidents thank you with no help needed from you Aussies). And you can tell your Queenie to come and clean up all her BP oil that she just accidentally let boil out of the ocean floor. Oh Queenie you'll be wondering why this winter you are under at least 12 feet of snow because the Gulf Stream is not warm any longer keeping your little Island warm in the winter months.

And to answer Exie's question about Brittany Spears I hear she's shaved her head again and is currently drinking Drano (or something like that) so she can go back to the nuthouse and taunt the press. At least that's the latest rumor I've heard on her.

Hello twink:

You go, Girl!

Ex

Ohhhhhh you're so tough, tough guy. Why not just boycott McDonalds and stop going there altogether. They just serve unadulterated poison for food with all the additives MSG, etc. washed down with aspartame (ant poison) soda. If you Aussies are so danged smart you'd boycott all fast foods but no, you too have been suckered into eating at fast food places. Pretty soon you'll be happily obese as well..

I tend to avoid McDonalds and similar but you are right we have been suckered and we are not proud of it. When McDonalds started here I couldn't afford it but prosperity has risen and prices haven't. We are happily obese just like you are and we don't like it. Another american export we didn't need. We have become much more obese since your multinationals have taken over our food processing industries.


You're going to bash ALL Americans over what one rotten apple American did or said. Please. He must have been delusional or not taking his Prozac or taking his Prozac. You were not there. You have no idea just who's story was true or made up

You guys really don't like looking in a mirror do you? I expect the stories are largely truthfull but you are right we don't know how much the media has pumped the story, my focus was only the bizzaire statement as if such behaviour was a badge of honour.


And telling my friend Exie that unspeakable insult tells me that you secretly HATE all Americans. . .
Unspeakable insult? Ex and I have been sparing partners for years. I could have said much worse and I don't confine such remarks to americans. We use such remarks to get someone's attention when they are up themselves. Have you been told today? Consider yourself told!


And just as I had clocked you months ago you just LOVE to American bash every single chance you get. Well, why don't you go bash folks elsewhere. I, for one, am really, really tired of your American bashing of our President (that's for US to bash - not someone from a totally different country to bash - we get first dibbs on any of our lame and retarded presidents thank you with no help needed from you Aussies). And you can tell your Queenie to come and clean up all her BP oil that she just accidentally let boil out of the ocean floor. Oh Queenie you'll be wondering why this winter you are under at least 12 feet of snow because the Gulf Stream is not warm any longer keeping your little Island warm in the winter months..

You are right, I have little time for americans, I have found them brash and offensive. If you are a keen observer, you may have observed that I have little time for others with arrogant views on their own behaviour and that includes Muslims and the Catholic Church and certain american presidents who are fair game for all. You might have also observed I have the same opinion of our home grown politicians. As to BP it is a multinational and no doubt has a large shareholding in the US so don't blame the brits, blame the inefficient US administration that puts money before people and the environment. If the UK is twelve feet under snow, it is no skin off my nose, I don't have much time for poms either. But digging themselves out from snow instead of B/S might be a fresh experience. Be careful what you wish for, that current that warms to UK also warms the east coast of america. If americans get bashed here it is because there doesn't seem to be anyoneelse available


And to answer Exie's question about Brittany Spears I hear she's shaved her head again and is currently drinking Drano (or something like that) so she can go back to the nuthouse and taunt the press. At least that's the latest rumor I've heard on her.

And this is of interest, why? Perhaps you would applaud that other sewer performer Paris?

Wow.

I never knew you were such a p_ssy,

Seriously.

Well... now we all know.

Another american export we didn't need.

And didn't have the balls to reject?

Seriously...

Any dime an hour therapist would tell you to take responsibility for your own behavior.

You know... like a man.

Really...

I tend to avoid McDonalds and similiar but you are right we have been suckered and we are not proud of it. When McDonalds started here I couldn't afford it but prosperity has risen and prices haven't. We are happily obese just like you are and we don't like it. Another american export we didn't need. We have become much more obese since your multinationals have taken over our food processing industries.

And you think Americans are brash and offensive? Clete, buck up man and take responsibility for your own choices.

And you think Americans are brash and offensive? Clete, buck up man and take responsibility for your own choices.

I take responsibility for what I know about

I take responsibility for what I know about

And you didn't know 2 fried hamburger patties between a 3 piece bun with cheese, sauce, fries and a Coke wasn't a particularly healthy choice?

Multinationals don't reach into your wallet.

Get the hell out of the drive through and stop b!tching.

Unsubscribing. No time for this kind of whiny BS.

And you didn't know 2 fried hamburger patties between a 3 piece bun with cheese, sauce, fries and a Coke wasn't a particularly healthy choice?

Hey who thought about it? It was just an occasional meal when travelling besides I don't think our servings are as big as yours, you see we were used to hamburgers that had some nutritional value because they were made from different higher quality ingredients

This is how we do it in Australia
Jail refused for alleged MP attacker (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jail-refused-for-alleged-mp-attacker-20100924-15q4s.html)

And so we say goodbye to another american tourist, now he has the chance to show the folks back home how he does it. He should consider himself lucky he wasn't remanded in custody and then have breached the immigration laws, it's no fun in an immigration detention centre

This is how we do it in Australia
Jail refused for alleged MP attacker (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jail-refused-for-alleged-mp-attacker-20100924-15q4s.html)

and so we say goodbye to another american tourist, now he has the chance to show the folks back home how he does it. he should consider himself lucky he wasn't remanded in custody and then have breached the immigration laws, it's no fun in an immigration detention centre



I don't know which is more offensive to me - your bashing of anyone/everyone, not just Americans, or your spelling and punctuation.

Oh, look, an Australian national arrested for money laundering in the US.

Now he can show the folks back home how money laundering is done.

Australian Payment Processor Arrested in US (http://www.casinoadvisor.com/australian-payment-processor-arrested-in-us-news-item.html)

Now as to the aussie brawling issue, strangely enough it appears to be endemic among a group of misguided "black" indigenous youth who think black american culture is something to emulate, the rest of us have better things to do, usually confining our brawling to the sporting arena where we hand our merciless punishment to our opponents unless of course some luckless muslim happens to offer an opportunity

Never been out to a pub then?

Gawd, the amount of bar fights I have seen and random drunkards punching each other on the street... hence why I rarely go out any more.
Don't know what the Aboriginal community has to do with it :confused:

I'm working on the Black community part of this - and why is "black" in quotes?

So Parakeets hates Americans and blacks and apparently everyone who isn't Christian.

Anyone I left out?

Oh, I know - and me.

I don't know which is more offensive to me - your bashing of anyone/everyone, not just Americans, or your spelling and punctuation.

Oh, look, an Australian national arrested for money laundering in the US.

Now he can show the folks back home how money laundering is done.

Australian Payment Processor Arrested in US (http://www.casinoadvisor.com/australian-payment-processor-arrested-in-us-news-item.html)

How very PC of you not to recognise that not everyone does things the way americans do and that certainly is the case where spelling is concerned. The zee (z), which we call zed, is not used in place of es (s) in our language, and there are other differences too, such as the use of the letter ewe (u). I wonder how you feel when confronted by the pecular letters scandanavians use. Thanks for showing us how to launder money. We will add it to the list of talents we have acquired from you. I find this board is more interesting if we can lever the focus out of the US once in a while. If, however, that also involves discussing the actions of americans out of their natural habitat then that's the way the cookie crumbles although I don't like cookies preferring biscuits. Have you considered that there might be a reason americans come in for criticism and that is their outlandish behaviour. Any time you would like to discuss the behaviour of Australians, go right ahead.

Never been out to a pub then?

Gawd, the amount of bar fights I have seen and random drunkards punching each other on the street... hence why I rarely go out any more.
Don't know what the Aboriginal community has to do with it :confused:

Hello shaza, I have long since decided to avoid the pub scene, Had my share of fights there when I was young. As you are well aware alcohol fueled violence has become a problem in some parts among the young, which is the reason for a recent police operation targeting street offences.
http://www.turningpoint.org.au/library/newspoint/newspoint_0907.pdf

I'm sure you have observed that violence is endemic in aboriginal communities, it seems you only have to put two families together to have a riot. Just in the last week we had a community shut down for this reason with the exit of a large number of people from the town
PM - Indigenous Commissioner slams police response in Yuendumu 24/09/2010 (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s3021549.htm)
This, of course, is unhelpful, since aboriginals out of country seems to add a dimension to the problem. Without an eldership to keep them in check, their behaviour appears to become more anti-social.

I'm working on the Black community part of this - and why is "black" in quotes?

So Parakeets hates Americans and blacks and apparently everyone who isn't Christian.

Anyone I left out?

Oh, I know - and me.

Let me help you with a little understanding. Very few aboriginal people outside the tropics in Australia are actually "black". In fact large numbers are indistinguishable from the general community when you consider the numbers of migrants from southern Europe and the middle east,(we are all very suntanned) so putting the black in quotes is saying that these people identify themselves as aboriginal by their behaviour and some of these have taken on the undesirable aspects of the afro society in america and imported attitude and militantism from a society where the problems are very different

To answer your other question, I don't hate anyone but I do have strong dislikes and opinions regarding the behaviour of certain groups of people and these include americans, aboriginals, muslims, idiots, hypocrites, politicians and trouble makers

I haven't personally seen any fights in the Aboriginal community, they are fairly quiet here in TAS.

They have started bringing in the license scanning at pubs down here now as it has apparently been cutting down on brawls in QLD. Hopefully it will happen here as well, I don't really enjoy having my drink spilt all over me because some idiot decides to swing a punch and knock some 150kg guy flying into me.

I haven't personally seen any fights in the Aboriginal community, they are fairly quiet here in TAS.

They have started bringing in the license scanning at pubs down here now as it has apparently been cutting down on brawls in QLD. Hopefully it will happen here as well, I don't really enjoy having my drink spilt all over me because some idiot decides to swing a punch and knock some 150kg guy flying into me.

Hi Shaza, Yes, well you wouldn't have any problems with the aboriginal community in Tasmania, the way I heard it they took care of the problem a long time ago.

I have always thought of tassie as a quiet place and not one where you would have the problem of violence. I'll have to visit the shearing shed again and update myself.

Well I suppose within a couple of weeks we will have to put up with the annual migration of idiots here as our famous mountain gets itself in the news again. Last year we had many visiting police and I expect our resident radar traps will be working overtime. They sell alcohol by the semi load on the mountain so we do get more than our fair share of idiots.

Let me help you with a little understanding. Very few aboriginal people outside the tropics in Australia are actually "black". In fact large numbers are indistinguishable from the general community when you consider the numbers of migrants from southern Europe and the middle east,(we are all very suntanned) so putting the black in quotes is saying that these people identify themselves as aboriginal by their behaviour and some of these have taken on the undesirable aspects of the afro society in america and imported attitude and militantism from a society where the problems are very different

To answer your other question, I don't hate anyone but I do have strong dislikes and opinions regarding the behaviour of certain groups of people and these include americans, aboriginals, muslims, idiots, hypocrites, politicians and trouble makers



I would add people who can barely write or spell and consider themselves self made experts.

I would add people who can barely write or spell and consider themselves self made experts.

You see, that is the sort of attitude that so endears americans to the other 95% of humanity, you are not superior to anyone either in education or culture

you see, that is the sort of attitude that so endears americans to the other 95% of humanity, you are not superior to anyone either in education or culture


Well, apparently "we" are superior to some people in education. Culture - I don't know.

Well, apparently "we" are superior to some people in education. Culture - I don't know.

From the reports I hear about your education system that is true of third world countries however you go on thinking that. What was it George Bush said "no child left behind"? How's that working out for you? One has to wonder why he found it necessary.

I am judging education in America by the people I meet and do business with. I am judging people in other countries by what they post on this Board.

I have (and had) no control over anything President Bush did or said.

It's working out for me fine.