Ok, Hope its OK to start this thread about gun discussion and practices. Debate or recommend or tell your favorite gun stories. Above all respect opinions and have fun!!

Ok well I will repost seeing as I am a newb when it comes to gun owning. When I was 7 my father bought me a pellet gun, but it was too long for me, so he sawed off the butt of it. My friends used to make fun of me saying I shot it like a bazooka.

I've always wanted a Smith and Wesson. They sure are pretty. Anyone have a recommendation for a fem newbie S&W?

Woo Hoo I was actually the FIRST, for ONCE YESSSS!! What do I win?/

Lifetime supply of .PDF targets ;)


Lol

http://www.mytargets.com/

.PDF targets? Remember, I'm new to this lol. I've only ever used beer bottles and tin cans. Oh and a dart board.

Haha thanks for that Edit!

Yup, Knot a blonde.

Ok well I will repost seeing as I am a newb when it comes to gun owning. When I was 7 my father bought me a pellet gun, but it was too long for me, so he sawed off the butt of it. My friends used to make fun of me saying I shot it like a bazooka.

I've always wanted a Smith and Wesson. They sure are pretty. Anyone have a recommendation for a fem newbie S&W?

Well its mostly personal choice as to what your comfortable with. Your best bet if possible is to find a gun range near you that rents guns. So you can try before you buy. Have you thought of what you might like in a gun such as pistol or revolver ?

Yea, nope haven't gone that far. I live very close to a gun range, never even thought about doing that. So what would be the benefit of a pistol to a revolver?

A revolver is the one with the cylinder that is round and after all the rounds are expelled you have to reload. A pistol is a semiauto type weapon and once you finish the rounds all you have to do is load another mag in it and your ready to go. A mag can hold anywhere from 7 or 8 rounds up to ones that can hold 15 or more and longer ones that hold up to 32 rounds. A typical cylinder is betweem 5 and 7 usually.

Well I like those old fashioned S&W's so I think a pistol might be nice.

Nothing but the best targets for you, as your prize.

Credit for their sourse of high class targets http://zombieammo.com/zombiepress/2009/09/re-introducing-jimmy/

Oops I meant to say revolver. Sorry.

ZOMBIES!! Those make the best targets!

Oops I meant to say revolver. Sorry.

ZOMBIES!!! Those make the best targets!

I knew what you meant. Ok for starting you might want something on the small side so I would say 22lr, 22 magnum, 32 cal. 38 cal. anything in those sizes to get comfortable with would be good sizes for starting. Also if you have friends that own them get together with them and see if they can allow you to shoot what they have so you can get a feel for it. Mostly its indoor ranges that rent guns and pricing varies by area.

Nothing but the best targets for you, as your prize.

credit for their sourse of high class targets Zombie Targets & Zombie Tshirts Archive Re-introducing Jimmy (http://zombieammo.com/zombiepress/2009/09/re-introducing-jimmy/)

Love zombie stuff for the range.

Well, actually we aren't so gun friendly here in Canada. My father has a lot of guns, but much bigger ones. Do you have to bring your own gun to a gun range, or is it like a shoe store, you can try them all on until you find one that fits?

Depends on the range. Most indoor ones that have a gun store connected have the guns there for you to rent. And if you buy one you get the rental money back. Also you need to buy the ammo for it. Those ranges that are open field or outside ranges you normally bring your own.

Yea it's a retired military shooting range. So it is out side.

These two here are quite nice:

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I do like the longer barrels.

Now for storage, I have a new bedside safe, uses push buttom code so I can get into it within seconds. Bolts right under a night stand ( or on top) My one there is the only loaded gun in the home for defense ( and the one I normally carry) All the rest are in a locked cabinet also, but unloaded with the bullets all stored in fire proof safe.

Those are nice. I like the single/double action. Double action means you pull the trigger back and it pulls the "hammer" back at the same time. Single action means you can pull back the hammer and your ready to fire from there.

now for storage, I have a new bedside safe, uses push buttom code so I can get into it within seconds. Bolts right under a night stand ( or on top) My one there is the only loaded gun in the home for defense ( and the one I normally carry) All the rest are in a locked cabinet also, but unloaded with the bullets all stored in fire proof safe.

Nice set up. And can't stress enough about gun safety and operation. What caliber do you carry and have for home defense?

I went for the 380, it was my last back up weapon, the light weight one that fits into the protective vest hoster,

I would normally have used a 9 mm or a 40 for home defense, but it is a matter of being used to one weapon, I still carry the 380 almost all the time, practice with it, I also keep a small belt of my 12 gauge shells in the safe, so it is a matter of using the 380, till I break the glass on the shotgun display, load it and have it to use. But I do have my bullets specially hand loaded for max stop that I can get from it.

But with that, I have a high profile security system, window and glass alarms, door and motion alarms, all zoned for day or night or away. It is a moitored system that has live voice connection to the home. It is even wireless so they can't cut wires to get past it.

What I have found in most of the local shoot outs, they happen at less than 12 feet, most miss 80 plus percent of their shots. So it is having a weapon you are used to, one you shoot round after round out of, so you feel good about using.

I even practice without my eye glasses, and low light to simulate night shotting getting out of bed.

Did they both have the double/single action?

I agree, gun safety is so important. I would never want to be the cause of someone un intentionally killing or hurting themselves. Especially if it was my kid. That's actually my biggest fear of having a gun in my home. My father has had guns in their homes, well forever. He was an under waters weapons tech, he has all kinds of neat 'toys'. He is actually ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in this.

Not sure if they both did because the first link was messed up for me. Its posted as a bad link.

Did they both have the double/single action?

I agree, gun safety is so important. I would never want to be the cause of someone un intentionally killing or hurting them selves. Especially if it was my kid. That's actually my biggest fear of having a gun in my home. My father has had guns in their homes, well forever. He was an under waters weapons tech, he has all kinds of neat 'toys'. He is actually ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in this.

I remember when each of my brother turned 12 my Dad would buy them a 22 rifle. We never touched them. Dad showed them how to clean them and take care of them. That was back when boys could go hunting in the mountains or with a grownup. My husband likes automatics. I like my little 38 lady smith and I''m a darn good shot.

Dad believed in equality when it came to teaching us girls about guns. We knew the rules of gun safety. And we followed them.

Which one were you able to look at? The longer barreled one? That's the one I liked the best.

Kit, I think it's great that your dad showed you all how to shoot. It's kind of a rush eh?

Chuck, have you guys always had guns in the house, and does your wife own or shoot? Do you guys go to a gun range?

Grew up with guns, had them in the house growing up, ( no locks, no cabinets we just knew better, heck at high school, most of us had guns in the Pick ups in the gun racks sitting in the school parking lots. ( grew up very country)

But yes, I have had small armory at the home in years past, everything from muzzle loaders, to some antique collector auto weapons, to assault weapons.

Toni hates guns, so except for self defense, some hunting weapons and those I have for when the world goes to ruin in 2012. I sold and got rid of most of them shortly after we got married.

The over board security on the house and guns is for her benefit. She does carry mace and has started martial arts.
Of course I am ( or was) a master at martial arts, and had to use them a few times with her around, and she understands the need for self defense.

Wow, umm do you guys live in a bad area or something? Why for her? If you don't mind me asking.

Grew up with guns, had them in the house growing up, ( no locks, no cabinets we just knew better, heck at high school, most of us had guns in the Pick ups in the gun racks sitting in the school parking lots. ( grew up very country)

But yes, I have had small armory at the home in years past, everything from muzzle loaders, to some antique collector auto weapons, to assualt weapons.

Toni hates guns, so except for self defense, some hunting weapons and those I have for when the world goes to ruin in 2012. I sold and got rid of most of them shortly after we got married.

The over board security on the house and guns is for her benifit. She does carry mace and has started martial arts.
Of course I am ( or was) a master at martial arts, and had to use them a few times with her around, and she understands the need for self defense.

Wow FC.. that's great. My husband has a bicentenneial muzzle loading rifle and a pistol. I'm too impatient with those. Mom kept a Baretta in the house after Dad passed away and she knew how to use it. I wonder what is the best hand gun you can buy, that is also easy to handle. I had a two shot derringer... gave it to my oldest daughter.. My husband said "might as well throw a rock at somebody". That derringer fit right into the palm of my hand.

Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?

I am in Georgia , I have to have a license to carry mine ( since I am no longer a law enforcement officer) you have to have a background check to buy one, ( unless you have a permit to carry). So no permit to buy or own one. Or have it on your own property.

The which is best is sort of a "ford" vs "chevy" issue, I love Glocks, carried one for years and years shooting over 1000 rounds a month and never a single jam. ( keep clean and repalced spring often) Back in the "Federal" days I called a SW revolver which is a great fun gun, but not enough available bullets per load, and much slower reload time.

Well for 5 years Toni and I lived in the middle of the "hood" the worst part of Atlanta, I caught more felons within my own block on my days off, there were local jokes from the street officers. We had hookers on the corner a few houses up, some male prositutes, had homeless all over, they even stole christmas lights off my bushes in the winter.

Some silly people had the idea to rob me every once in a while. One day, sitting on the porch, someone visiting Toni had left her purse in her car, someone walking down the street, broke the window and grabbed the purse, I was sitting right there on the porch by the car. He for some reason thought he was going to stop me, he hit me ( I guess as hard as he could) on the forehead, almost between the eyes. I just looked at him, That look in his eyes, the fear of god, like I am going to die now, Toni still laughs about it.

Well lets just say, we discussed his hitting me and breaking the window for a while,

Now the bad thing, Toni called the police but they were too busy to come, yep, too busy for a simple breaking into a car.
I am off duty and not within my jurisdiction at the time, so I can't even legally arrest him.

So we discussed his actions a little more, and he was ready to repent to Jesus at the end of our discussion. So I let him go
The police did finally come about a hour latter to see what had happened

Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?






If you carry a gun you have to have a permit. When you buy it, it is registered. A license and a permit is the same thing. You also have to take a gun safety course in order to get a permit.

Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?
It depends on on the state. In New Hampshire, if you're a resident, then you can walk into a gun store and buy a gun; no license, no background check, no firearm registration. Private sales between known parties is legal, too. To carry a concealed weapon and transport it in your car, you need to have a license to carry. Otherwise, you can carry it openly like a cowboy.

The license to carry is just an application to your local police department with a sentence saying why you want it. If you weren't convicted of a violent felony recently and pay a fee, you'll most likely get it.

Wowsers. So is it true on 9-11 (the documentary) some places like in Texas, hand out guns at the local banks with new accounts?

I have to admit, I haven't read the entire thread...

What kind of gun to you want? I have probably shot it.

I have to admit, I haven't read the entire thread....

What kind of gun to you want? I have probably shot it.




A .357 magnum.

I want a smith and Wesson. A revolver with a longer barrel. That's as far as I got.

I want a smith and Wesson. A revolver with a longer barrel. That's as far as I got.





Clint Eastwood comes to mind when I think of a .44 magnum.. He's 200 years old and still a hunk.:D

Agree!

Agree!







I like guns... we have a few. My kids know how to shoot and so do two of the grandsons. Course they have to go to a gun safety class to get a license to deer hunt. I could never kill a deer.

V has to get his gun license for his new job... All I can picture is him running around buildings pretending to be an army man or something.
He's already excited about getting a baton (aka whacking stick) while he waits for his license :rolleyes:

Friend of mine used to go out hunting Roo and Possum every weekend. Dogs loved it.

My homeowner's insurance company knows where a list of my weapons and their serial numbers is. That's as close as anyone gets to knowing how many or what kind of firearms are in my house.

All these licenses and permits and registrations I consider to be violations of our Constitution's 2nd Amendment.

That said, my favorites are the Browning A-5 light 12 shotgun and the Colt Trooper III in a .357 mag. Cat likes the Colt Commander in a .38.

Dad, when did revolvers stop being pistols?

My homeowner's insurance company knows where a list of my weapons and their serial numbers is. That's as close as anyone gets to knowing how many or what kind of firearms are in my house.

All these licenses and permits and registrations I consider to be violations of our Constitution's 2nd Amendment.

That said, my favorites are the Browning A-5 light 12 shotgun and the Colt Trooper III in a .357 mag. Cat likes the Colt Commander in a .38.

Dad, when did revolvers stop being pistols?

When the semi auto came in to existence. That's what Ive been told is the separation. Also I think its regional. Just like many people call a magazine a clip.

When the semi auto came in to existance. Thats what Ive been told is the seperation. Also I think its regional. Just like many people call a magazine a clip.

Fascinating... I just looked up the definitions and Merriam Webster defines it as a handgun with the chamber integral to the barrel while the others define it as a firearm used one-handed. The things I learn while chatting here.

I just know what I am told. And besides that I just smile and nod. :)

V has to get his gun license for his new job... All I can picture is him running around buildings pretending to be an army man or something.
He's already excited about getting a baton (aka whacking stick) while he waits for his license :rolleyes:

Friend of mine used to go out hunting Roo and Possum every weekend. Dogs loved it.

Now that's something I'd like to see!

Fascinating... I just looked up the definitions and Merriam Webster defines it as a handgun with the chamber integral to the barrel while the others define it as a firearm used one-handed. The things I learn while chatting here.

The one handed distinction comes in where you have a blackpowder because those could have been rifle or pistol. Pistol being the one handed style and rifle being 2 handed.

The one handed distinction comes in where you have a blackpowder because those could have been rifle or pistol. Pistol being the one handed style and rifle being 2 handed.

Blackpowder longarms were more often muskets up until about 1750, being smoothbores rather than rifled guns. I'm being a little nit-picky, I know. My apologies. It comes from arguing with gun control nutcases.

Well I like those old fashioned S&W's so I think a pistol might be nice.




Do you like a revolver?

Blackpowder longarms were more often muskets up until about 1750, being smoothbores rather than rifled guns. I'm being a little nit-picky, I know. My apologies. It comes from arguing with gun control nutcases.

I started this thread with the intent of having a place on AMHD to discuss guns or things with guns. So in being nitpicky it also increases the knowlage base and we all can learn something. So if you have an idea or comment or a gripe. Fire away. Your amongst friends now ;)

Very well, then. I'm old school. I like my six shooter. In longarms I'm partial to shotguns. For distance work the Madsen Arms conversion of the Browning 30-06 with a Springfield action provides all you need on the North American continent.

Very well, then. I'm old school. I like my six shooter. In longarms I'm partial to shotguns. For distance work the Madsen Arms conversion of the Browning 30-06 with a Springfield action provides all you need on the North American continent.




I'm too impatient with my husbands muzzle loader. He has a pistol.
I have a snub nose revolver. I would like a smi- automatic handgun. Maybe a Glock.

I'm too impatient with my husbands muzzle loader. He has a pistol.
I have a snub nose revolver. I would like a smi- automatic handgun. Maybe a Glock.

That's like the one argument I always have with people about the types of guns. I always try to tell people that what works for them as a preference doesn't mean the next person that has a different choice is any worse off. To me as far as any firearm goes it has to fit the owner. Any gun your comfortable with is a good choice. The thing I hate now. At least around near me is ammo has gone up a lot in the last year making casual shooting expensive. But you have to to keep proficiant.

Thats like the one argument I always have with people about the types of guns. I always try to tell people that what works for them as a preference doesnt mean the next person that has a differnt choice is any worse off. To me as far as any firearm goes it has to fit the owner. Any gun your comfortable with is a good choice. The thing I hate now. Atleast around near me is ammo has gone up alot in the last year making casual shooting expensive. But you have to to keep proficiant.

You're right. We don't shoot as much as we used too. We used to go up to the old homeplace and shoot. Shooting ranges are expensive Ammo here is expensive. Oh for the good old days.

Yes, my old muzzle loading group, some of them had cannons, mortars that shot tin cans full of concrete and so on.

yes, my old muzzle loading group, some of them had cannons, mortars that shot tin cans full of concrete and so on.





Plus.. it takes a while to load them or at least it does for me:D

Some of the ones I knew, somehow did the powder in some paper packing, and then the packing and then the shooting item/

One, not sure how he did it had it sort of in some cardboard tube he would insert and pack.

Some of the ones I knew, somehow did the powder in some paper packing, and then the packing and then the shooting item/

One, not sure how he did it had it sorta in some cardboard tube he would insert and pack.

We have muzzle loading season, bow season (I hate a bow) to hard to pull back. Regular season is fine.. I don't go. I'll bett we could find the powder at the B... pro shop for the muzzle loader.

I make at least one annual visit to Dixie Gun Works, love their store,

Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. (http://www.dixiegunworks.com)

OoO This one is pretty!

Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. (http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=15310&osCsid=283b6a43ebac573d0853c05da452b38c)

OoO This one is pretty!

Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. (http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=15310&osCsid=283b6a43ebac573d0853c05da452b38c)





Hey Bella... I know you know all about guns, since your Dad is Military... Bet you're a good shot.

I actually know nothing about guns. I have shot lots of them, could I tell you what they were? Nope. I will admit I have a good shot, now I just need to know what I am shooting!

My dad is ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in guns. He only has big guns, he lets me target shoot on them, but I'd love to have one of my own.

I actually know nothing about guns. I have shot lots of them, could I tell you what they were ?? nope. I will admit I have a good shot, now I just need to know what I am shooting!

My dad is ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in guns. He only has big guns, he lets me target shoot on them, but I'd love to have one of my own.

Tell him to give you one of his! A nice handgun.. that packs a punch!:D

Plus he was Navy, he was an under waters weapons tech, so his thing was torpedo's, under water bombs, sea bombs, and even remotely operated robotic vehicles. When we were posted to the west coast my father did a lot of over seas tours to Iran, Iraq, Cambodia, Haiti, Yugoslavia, Africa, Cairo, and Afghanistan he was with the infinitry troops and the engineers, both American and Canadian so he got to play with a lot more weapons then. He has quite the collection of war memorabilia. He calls it his first born lol.

Tell him to give you one of his! A nice handgun..that packs a punch!:D Oh my Gawd Kit I might as well ask him for a million dollars. He bought me a rifle and a pellet gun lol.

Oh my Gawd Kit I might as well ask hi for a million dollars. He bought me a rifle and a pellet gun lol.







You tickle me to death Bella!:D:D My Gawd!

I;m glad you liked it! My aim is to please!

i;m glad you liked it!! My aim is to please!





You are so funny!!

I'm trying to participate here... damm patients in labor!

Dang, J can't you tell them to wait? It's a;ready been 9 months, what's another night?

Dang, J can't you tell them to wait?? it's a;ready been 9 months, what's another night??

Yeah! :D

I actually know nothing about guns. I have shot lots of them, could I tell you what they were ?? nope. I will admit I have a good shot, now I just need to know what I am shooting!

My dad is ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in guns. He only has big guns, he lets me target shoot on them, but I'd love to have one of my own.

At this site they have pictures and prices of all kinds of gun and the ammo too. If someone mentions a firearm it's a good chance it can be found here. Plus you can search by category. Or bullet diameter. And that can help you in your quest to learning about them.

Ref:

Guns - Online Gun Auction - Guns at GunBroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com)

I'm trying to participate here.....damm patients in labor!!

Welcome J-9. Good to see you on the thread.

Thanks Dad, great site.

thanks dad, great site.




I love it ! Cdf3

Here is one Im going to throw out there.
How much ammo should you have at hand? What is the minimum for your firearm.

I usually keep between 300 to 500 rounds for the ones I shoot regularly and only 200 for the ones I don't.

What is everyone's preference?

Seems I have been MIA. Babies are coming! Babies are coming!

I don't have the time to read all of the posts here so I'm just going to jump right in.

I carry a Taurus .38 revolver with pearl grips and a gold trigger. Yeah, I got me some BLING! :p

One of my weapons about 5000 rounds, others around 1000.

At this site they have pictures and prices of all kinds of gun and the ammo too. If someone mentions a firearm its a good chance it can be found here. Plus you can search by catagory. Or bullet diameter. And that can help you in your quest to learning about them.

Ref:

Guns - Online Gun Auction - Guns at GunBroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com)

My husband uses this site all the time.

SOunds like a sexy gun J.

Here is one Im going to throw out there.
How much ammo should you have at hand? What is the minimum for your firearm.

I usually keep between 300 to 500 rounds for the ones I shoot regularly and only 200 for the ones I dont.

What is everyones preference?

Sounds about right... my husband said that!:rolleyes:

Glock .45 in shoulder holster with 4 extra clips. . 357 S&W "shortie" in belt in back. 2 speed loaders, just in case Glock jams. 1 knife for taking ears. Federal Law Enforcement trained. I sleep with one eye open and three guns in, under and around my bed. Want to meet Elvis? I didn't think so.

Glock .45 in shoulder holster with 4 extra clips. .357 S&W "shortie" in belt in back. 2 speed loaders, just in case Glock jams. 1 knife for taking ears. Federal Law Enforcement trained. I sleep with one eye open and three guns in, under and around my bed. Wanna meet Elvis? I didn't think so.

Nice !

I've met Elvis... :eek:

I've met Elvis... :eek:




Where? Where? :eek:

Where? Where? :eek:

Sorry. He left the building already ;)

Never had a Glock jam,

never had a Glock jam,

Im not a fan of glock but many people like them that's for sure. I prefer all steel. Or stainless.

What's the difference in a Glock and a 357?

What's the difference in a Glock and a 357?

357 is a rating for the bullet size and fits in many different guns. A Glock is a gun manufacturer. The glock is one of the first "plastic" guns. And was able to defeat early gun detection systems.

Ref:

GLOCK "Safe Action Pistols" (http://www.glock.com/)

AmmoEngine: .357 Magnum, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_Magnum)

AmmoEngine: .357 SIG, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_SIG)

357 is a rating for the bullet size and fits in many different guns. A Glock is a gun manufacturer. The glock is one of the first "plastic" guns. And was able to defeat early gun detection systems.

Ref:

GLOCK "Safe Action Pistols" (http://www.glock.com/)

AmmoEngine: .357 Magnum, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_Magnum)

AmmoEngine: .357 SIG, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_SIG)


Thanks CalDad!

Thanks CalDad!

Ask questions, get opinions. That is what this thread is about. Many here have far more knowlage and experience then me.

Ask questions, get opinions. That is what this thread is about. Many here have far more knowlage and experience then me.

You and Fr_Chuck know a lot about guns.

<-- points at Fr_Chuck. I know nothsing. <spoken in German accent>

[QUOTE=califdadof3;2424396]<-- points at Fr_Chuck. I know nothsing. <spoken in German accent




Glad you started the thread. :cool:

Since its so quiet. Here's something to read ;)

F&S Picks the 25 Best AR-Style Rifles | Field & Stream (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/05/fs-picks-25-best-ar-style-rifles)

Since its so quiet. Here's something to read ;)

F&S Picks the 25 Best AR-Style Rifles | Field & Stream (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/05/fs-picks-25-best-ar-style-rifles)

What was the calibur of the first colt?

What was the calibur of the first colt?

First colt? In the article or elsewhere? Most AR15's are .223 in caliber. They also are called AR10 and those would be .308.

Hello!

I currently own a HK P2000SK and a Sig P229.

Both filled with hollows.

Hello!

I currently own a HK P2000SK and a Sig P229.

Both filled with hollows.

Welcome to the thread. Nice guns. How often do you shoot? Which one is your favorite?

Welcome to the thread. Nice guns. How often do you shoot? Which one is your favorite?

I don't shoot very often, mainly because I work a lot. Well, I'm on vacation now, but I didn't bring anything. I may stop off at the range sometime later this month, however.

Preferably, I like the recoil action on the Sig, and the way it fires, but the HK fits better in my hand

I don't shoot very often, mainly because I work a lot. Well, I'm on vacation now, but I didn't bring anything. I may stop off at the range sometime later this month, however.

Preferably, I like the recoil action on the Sig, and the way it fires, but the HK fits better in my hand

There is always some trade off no matter what you have. Its really hard to find anything that's "perfect". Its good to get in range time and keep in practice and be proficiant with your weapon. The sad part is that the price of bullets has gone up so much recently that its making casual shooting prohibitive for most people :(

No kidding! Even when I bring my own eye/ear protection, my own targets, and my own ammo, going through 200 rounds or so will cost me $15 - 20!!

No kidding! Even when I bring my own eye/ear protection, my own targets, and my own ammo, going through 200 rounds or so will cost me $15 - 20!!!

That's cheap. Most of what I shoot costs between .25 and .50 a round. But that's factory ammo not reloads.

Almost nothing is cheap anymore.

Oh, I was simply mentioning the range fees. Yeah, my HK ammo runs me around $0.40 a round, while my 9mm ammo runs me roughly $0.30 a round.. . who knew?

Oh, I was simply mentioning the range fees. Yeah, my HK ammo runs me around $0.40 a round, while my 9mm ammo runs me roughly $0.30 a round. ...who knew?

Im lucky. There is a range in the forest near me (about 20 miles) that is cheap to go to. Its $3 for a car load for the day. SO if you're the only one its $3. If there is 3 or 4 of you in the same car its still $3. But ammo is another thing. Lol.

If you have a Wallyworld near you they are pretty fair on ammo for FMJ.
.20 to .25 for 9mm. Winchester white box.

Not to hyjack this thread but there is a gun thread should you ever want to discuss self defense ammo.

Shameless plug:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/ready-aim-fire-aka-gun-thread-481412.html

Glad you pointed this thread out. Some interesting comments and ideas.

I have a few guns around the house and other places.
For the home I have a sawed off 12 ga.( that doesn't leave the house) good if you need to shoot quick and aiming has some options. I keep it loaded with 1 00 buck, next 4 #3 shot (smaller pellets than 00 but more weight )
Also a Desert Eagle .50 , Reuger .44 mag rev. S&W snub nose .357 mag. For hand guns.

Hunting rifles Remmington 30-06. Winchester 7mm mag , Russian AK 47
Chineese SKS. (a licensed dealer owns the AK and SKS , so being fully automatic is legal... I store them... )
I have a hidden safe in my place. I put in a false wall and unless you know where it is you would never know it there.

All the guns and ammo are kept here except the 12 ga. It too is in a hidden compartment but readily available.

I am not a gun "nut" I have just collected them over quite a few years.



I used to shoot a lot. I am a very good shot with almost any weapon , but with mine I am better than very good. No brag just fact.

I think everybody should own a gun and be required to know how to safely store and use it .

I think everybody should own a gun and be required to know how to safely store and use it .

At one time Firearms safety classes were available to every seventh grader in the U.S. - for free! Not one Government/Tax dollar was spent. It was sponsored and taught by the NRA. There were marksmanship classes available but your folks had to pay for range time.

Then politics happened. So sad.

At one time Firearms safety classes were available to every seventh grader in the U.S. - for free! Not one Government/Tax dollar was spent. It was sponsored and taught by the NRA. There were marksmanship classes available but your folks had to pay for range time.

Then politics happened. So sad.

And with the proliferation and ease of availability I think it is insane not to know how to to safely handle (at least) and use firearms.

We should make it a required course to be completed before entrance to High School.

And with the proliferation and ease of availability I think it is insane not to know how to to safely handle (at least) and use firearms.

We should make it a required course to be completed before entrance to High School.


"And ... and ... and ... We'd have Columbines and Virginia Tech all over the country!!!"

Can't you just hear the Brady crowd screaming it?

Glad you pointed this thread out. Some interesting comments and ideas.

I have a few guns around the house and other places.
For the home I have a sawed off 12 ga.( that doesn't leave the house) good if you need to shoot quick and aiming has some options. I keep it loaded with 1 00 buck, next 4 #3 shot (smaller pellets than 00 but more weight )
Also a Desert Eagle .50 , Reuger .44 mag rev. , S&W snub nose .357 mag. for hand guns.

Hunting rifles Remmington 30-06. Winchester 7mm mag , Russian AK 47
Chineese SKS. (a licensed dealer owns the AK and SKS , so being fully automatic is legal.....I store them.....)
I have a hidden safe in my place. I put in a false wall and unless you know where it is you would never know it there.

All the guns and ammo are kept here except the 12 ga. It too is in a hidden compartment but readily available.

I am not a gun "nut" I have just collected them over quite a few years.



I used to shoot a lot. I am a very good shot with almost any weapon , but with mine I am better than very good. No brag just fact.

I think everybody should own a gun and be required to know how to safely store and use it .

Welcome to the thread. Its intent is to have a spot for guns as it was lacking here on AMHD. If you ever get the money you can "own" the AK and SKS but to get it through the feds its almost $2,000 per gun. There are also what's known as gun "trust" and Im thinking that's what they are covered under now with a class 3 dealer.
Im not sure what classifies someone as a gun nut. But I believe that everyone should be able to own one should they want to so long as they can pass their local laws for no criminal record or violent behavior. Its funny how the law treats them between so many states. Like some restrictions for Mag capacity etc. Gimme a break.
Happy shooting.

I want to qualify as a nut. I firmly believe that our founding documents enumerate my right to own and operate Nimitz class weapons if I can afford them. I can't afford one, so I don't have a nuclear aircraft carrier right now. Some would say that's a good thing. They might be right.

I want to qualify as a nut. I firmly believe that our founding documents enumerate my right to own and operate Nimitz class weapons if I can afford them. I can't afford one, so I don't have a nuclear aircraft carrier right now. Some would say that's a good thing. They might be right.

You might not have to buy one yourself, as you and some fellow nuts could all chip in togeather and get one, then formulate some kind of time share deal, just a thought

I want to qualify as a nut. I firmly believe that our founding documents enumerate my right to own and operate Nimitz class weapons if I can afford them. I can't afford one, so I don't have a nuclear aircraft carrier right now. Some would say that's a good thing. They might be right.

Mostly I think its about where you live as to what makes you a gun nut. In free states with less restrictions and more hunting going on there tends to be a much broader definition to it then in states like California where they practice severe gun control. To me the difference between a gun nut and a responsible owner is in how you treat and handle your weapons. It has nothing to do with amounts you have or how far into it you get. Like building your own and reloading etc. That doesn't qualify as gun nut to me.


Welcome to the thread.

you might not have to buy one yourself, as you and some fellow nuts could all chip in togeather and get one, then formulate some kind of time share deal, just a thought

Welcome to the thread.

Mostly I think its about where you live as to what makes you a gun nut. In free states with less restrictions and more hunting going on there tends to be a much broader definition to it then in states like California where they practice severe gun control. To me the difference between a gun nut and a responsible owner is in how you treat and handle your weapons. It has nothing to do with amounts you have or how far into it you get. Like building your own and reloading etc. That doesnt qualify as gun nut to me.

I can't even understand AEGIS, much less build one.

Here's another qualification: Nobody but my wife knows how many firearms we own. The insurance company only knows where the list of types and serial numbers is locked up.

Welcome to the thread.

Cheers

Althugh I don't think ill be able to contribute much, not being able to legally buy a gun and all :o

I can't even understand AEGIS, much less build one.

Here's another qualification: Nobody but my wife knows how many firearms we own. The insurance company only knows where the list of types and serial numbers is locked up.

Love the AEGIS class. Great for defense as well as the new laser mounted high fire missile defense system.

cheers

althugh i dont think ill be able to contribute much, not being able to legally buy a gun and all :o

You might have questions about them. And the user list to this thread is growing. Why aren't you allowed to own one?

You might have questions about them. And the user list to this thread is growing. Why arent you allowed to own one?

I live in the UK, and not being a farmer or part of a group that is allowed to legally buy guns (i.e hunting groups or clay pigeon shooting) means I can't legally buy one :)

I do a bit of airsofting every now and then, but they're not real guns :o

i live in the UK, and not being a farmer or part of a group that is allowed to legally buy guns (i.e hunting groups or clay pigeon shooting) means i can't legally buy one :)

i do a bit of airsofting every now and then, but theyre not real guns :o

Actually according to some the airsoft "can" be a real gun. The ATF (us federal agency) has confiscated them on occasion because of the belief they can be converted to a "real gun". Have you thought about joining a club someday for clay / sport shooting?

Story ref:

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx

Actually according to some the airsoft "can" be a real gun. The ATF (us federal agency) has confiscated them on occasion because of the belief they can be converted to a "real gun". Have you thought about joining a club someday for clay / sport shooting?

Story ref:

ATF seizes 30 toy guns, infuriating local business owner - KOINLocal6.com (http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx)

Yea id head that some kinds can me retro fitted to work as real firearms, but until it is actually done it isn't illegal. I have my licence to buy airsoft guns though, I have an L96 sniper rifle and an M4 CASV front

i live in the UK, and not being a farmer or part of a group that is allowed to legally buy guns (i.e hunting groups or clay pigeon shooting) means i can't legally buy one :)

i do a bit of airsofting every now and then, but theyre not real guns :o

Looks like you have clubs there too. Even for hand gun target shooting. So at least you have some options. ;)

Ref:
Rules on gun buying in the UK (http://www.ukgundealer.com/rules.htm)

yea id head that some kinds can me retro fitted to work as real firearms, but until it is actually done it isnt illegal. i have my licence to buy airsoft guns though, i have an L96 sniper rifle and an M4 CASV front

Nice!!

They make some impressive knock offs in the airsoft line of just about anything made now. Its amazing.

Looks like you have clubs there too. Even for hand gun target shooting. So atleast you have some options. ;)

Ref:
Rules on gun buying in the UK (http://www.ukgundealer.com/rules.htm)

Yep I know if I joined a club I would be able to buy one, and I have given it some though to go and have a go as it were, see how I liked it.

Just never got round to it, and didn't have the money, but that shouldn't be a problem for much longer, so maybe I could lookinto any places that do clay pigeion shooting near me.

Cheers for the link

Nice !!!!

They make some impressive knock offs in the airsoft line of just about anything made now. Its amazing.

Yeah, my L96 is part plastic (the casing and butt) but it still weighs a fair bit :D

My M4 on the otherhand is full metal (apart from the sliding stock), and I'm told weighs close to the proper thing. This was my starter rifle after I got into airsofting and got my licence as it seemed like a good allround rifle, good range and power and could also lend its hand for CQB games

Welcome to the thread. Its intent is to have a spot for guns as it was lacking here on AMHD. If you ever get the money you can "own" the AK and SKS but to get it through the feds its almost $2,000 per gun. There are also whats known as gun "trust" and Im thinking thats what they are covered under now with a class 3 dealer.
Im not sure what classifies someone as a gun nut. But I believe that everyone should be able to own one should they want to so long as they can pass thier local laws for no criminal record or violent behavior. Its funny how the law treats them between so many states. Like some restrictions for Mag capacity etc. Gimme a break.
Happy shooting.

I'll never have the two grand for the federal permit but my friend is a long time into his dealership and has more money than brains. He has (4)Thompson .45's (2) M-16 ,(3) Uzi's ,(2) AR-15's, several WWII Greman machine guns, an M 60 , and his pride and joy is a Quad .50 mounted on his jeep.
And that is just a short list.
But he is a well respected businessman so he is a " serious collector". If it were known I had an arsenal like that , permit or not , I'm sure a state and federal task force would be blasting tear gas through my windows post haste.

It is amazing how varied gun laws are from state to state when the Constitution is suppose to be the basis of gun ownership. Here you have to register all hand guns. Rifles don't need to be registered.
You can carry handguns as long as they are not concealed and do not have a bullet in the chamber or revolvers don't have a bullet under the hammer or in the next chamber up to fire. And if it is in a vehicle it cannot be within reach of the driver. Basic good sense and safety.
Rifles are limited to magazine capacity of no more than 30. But it is now illegal to sell or buy 30 round clips. Legal to carry as long as magazine is not locked and no bullet in the chamber.

The Constitution says we have the right to own and bear arms. No restrictions. So how do all these laws come into being without a constitutional amendment?

I would like to hear some of the local restrictions from other states and countries for comparison to our local laws. It would be helpful when traveling to know these things because I don't leave home without one or two guns. Most of the western US is similar to Utah , excluding California but I exclude California from my travels anyway.

When I hear the " Brady Bunch " screaming about Columbine and Virginia Tech , I ask "What might have happened if several people there were in possession of guns and knew how to use them?" A radical idea maybe. But in most cases by the time the police arrive the damage is done.

Go through the back issues of "American Rifleman" magazine. They publish statistics of crimes thwarted by gun owners. It works out to about four and a half times as many thwarted crimes as successful crimes involving guns.

Just remember, he has to bleed inside your house for it to be legal.

Go through the back issues of "American Rifleman" magazine. They publish statistics of crimes thwarted by gun owners. It works out to about four and a half times as many thwarted crimes as successful crimes involving guns.

Just remember, he has to bleed inside your house for it to be legal.

Unless a clear and present danger to you or others is shown. Then you have the right to defend yourself with "like force". Never take a knife to a gun fight. And a weapon is a knife, a club, a broken bottle, or Desert Eagle .50.

Unless a clear and present danger to you or others is shown. Then you have the right to defend yourself with "like force". Never take a knife to a gun fight. And a weapon is a knife, a club, a broken bottle, or Desert Eagle .50.

Ohhh, me likey the Desert Eagle! :D

I'll never have the two grand for the federal permit but my friend is a long time into his dealership and has more money than brains. He has (4)Thompson .45's (2) M-16 ,(3) Uzi's ,(2) AR-15's, several WWII Greman machine guns, an M 60 , and his pride and joy is a Quad .50 mounted on his jeep.
And that is just a short list.
But he is a well respected businessman so he is a " serious collector". If it were known I had an arsenal like that , permit or not , I'm sure a state and federal task force would be blasting tear gas through my windows post haste.

It is amazing how varied gun laws are from state to state when the Constitution is suppose to be the basis of gun ownership. Here you have to register all hand guns. Rifles don't need to be registered.
You can carry handguns as long as they are not concealed and do not have a bullet in the chamber or revolvers don't have a bullet under the hammer or in the next chamber up to fire. And if it is in a vehicle it cannot be within reach of the driver. Basic good sense and safety.
Rifles are limited to magazine capacity of no more than 30. But it is now illegal to sell or buy 30 round clips. Legal to carry as long as magazine is not locked and no bullet in the chamber.


Do I know you? Stop talking about me. :p

Ohhh, me likey the Desert Eagle!! :D

They do an excellent job of giving you some extreme stopping power if God forbid it becomes necessary.

They do an excellent job of giving you some extreme stopping power if God forbid it becomes necessary.

Ummm, yeah, I know. However, I like my .50 cal sniper rifle just as well, but it's a bit too heavy to carry.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tIFH1Z0ihrjpzM:http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-82-dvic539.jpg

Yeah, I really do have one! ;)

It almost weighs more than me. LOL

Do I know you? Stop talking about me. :p

Any similarities to any anti-over-government, bordering on anarchist , that believes in the real freedom the founding fathers intended us to have, but is constantly being infringed upon by over zealous politicians that think they know what is best for us and what they ultimately want is control over our daily lives,. persons, living or dead,. is purely coincidental.

Oh, well no, then. That's not me. Just an avid collector and hobby shooter.

Ummm, yeah, I know. However, I like my .50 cal sniper rifle just as well, but it's a bit too heavy to carry.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tIFH1Z0ihrjpzM:http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-82-dvic539.jpg

Yeah, I really do have one!! ;)

Excellent weapon. Just because a threat is a mile away , it can still be a threat. That .50 is ideal to take care of "approaching danger"

And it's fun to shoot. Even my 8 year old likes it!

If'n you hold it tight enough there is little "kick."

Okay, a bit of background since you don't know me, but the others do.

My family owned a gun shop that included an indoor range, until the present President. We ended up losing it.

So, I'm not quite the terrorist that it seems like. Hubby is a master gunsmith.

Oh, well no, then. That's not me. Just an avid collector and hobby shooter.

I could resemble a radical person like that ,if I were not just a chemically damaged leftover from the sixties , with most of my righteous rage calmed and quiet and diverted to more productive avenues .

Nice to meet you Martinizing. Time for bed for me... I got to deliver babies tonight.

Okay, a bit of background since you don't know me, but the others do.

My family owned a gun shop that included an indoor range, until the present President. We ended up losing it.

So, I'm not quite the terrorist that it seems like. Hubby is a master gunsmith.

A most noble and honorable profession ,craft and art form. True gun smithing is an art I admire.

I am sorry you lost your shop, I'll bet you have great memories surrounding a place like that.

A most noble and honorable profession ,craft and art form. True gun smithing is an art I admire.

I am sorry you lost your shop, I'll bet you have great memories surrounding a place like that.

We do. Thank you for your comments. He is now working from home. Makes a great house husband since I work from 7p-7a. Does a great job of taking care of the kiddos.

Nice to meet you Martinizing. Time for bed for me....I gotta deliver babies tonight.
I am pleased to meet you also. You deliver babies... another one of my greatest loves in life. I can hear my children now... DAD YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM DOWN SOMETIME!!

LMAO... I work in Labor and Delivery. I prefer to deliver them as to working in the nursery. If I work in the nursery I have a hard time giving them back to Mom. LOL

Range time today. A friend of mine and I came up with some cheap range targets. You can use a paper plate and put a dot in the middle. Those dots are cheap and so are the paper plates. I was trying out a new set of grips and they seemed to help a lot. I was able to put a smiley face on the paper plate first time around ;)
What have you others come up with for target ideas that you want to pass along.

Range time today. A friend of mine and I came up with some cheap range targets. You can use a paper plate and put a dot in the middle. Those dots are cheap and so are the paper plates. I was trying out a new set of grips and they seemed to help alot. I was able to put a smiley face on the paper plate first time around ;)
What have you others come up with for target ideas that you want to pass along.

The first time I impressed my father-in-law was the weirdest target I ever shot at. We were newly married and invited to a Barbecue at a friend of his' farm. The friend and my father-in-law had been there for a while and had bolted an axe blade to a fencepost then set a beer can on the fence on either side. They were obviously trying to do some Beverly Hillbillies but the beer cans were surviving just fine. My father-in-law handed me his Python and told me to give it a go. It took a couple of rounds to get used to the weapon, but the third shot got a ring from the axe blade. I do not know to this day if it simply shook the can off, but one did fall.

That's how I impressed my wife's father, the man who played ping-pong, solitare, with a .22 pump.

The first time I impressed my father-in-law was the weirdest target I ever shot at. We were newly married and invited to a Barbeque at a friend of his' farm. The friend and my father-in-law had been there for a while and had bolted an axe blade to a fencepost then set a beer can on the fence on either side. They were obviously trying to do some Beverly Hillbillies but the beer cans were surviving just fine. My father-in-law handed me his Python and told me to give it a go. It took a couple of rounds to get used to the weapon, but the third shot got a ring from the axe blade. I do not know to this day if it simply shook the can off, but one did fall.

That's how I impressed my wife's father, the man who played ping-pong, solitare, with a .22 pump.

Great story. Ive heard many stories around the axe head. Seems to be popular in some places.

Range time today. A friend of mine and I came up with some cheap range targets. You can use a paper plate and put a dot in the middle. Those dots are cheap and so are the paper plates. I was trying out a new set of grips and they seemed to help alot. I was able to put a smiley face on the paper plate first time around ;)
What have you others come up with for target ideas that you want to pass along.

Republicans

Believe it or not, the shooting range near me has targets with pictures on it. Here are some of the pictures:

Aliens
Top 10 FBI's Most Wanted List Fugitives
Osama Bin Laden (as mentioned above)

...

...

Hillary Clinton.

Believe it or not, the shooting range near me has targets with pictures on it. Here are some of the pictures:

Aliens
Top 10 FBI's Most Wanted List Fugitives
Osama Bin Laden (as mentioned above)

...

...

Hillary Clinton.

Can you bring your own pictures? They could set up a great sideline in printing out targets from your digital camera or downloading. Al Sharpton comes to mind.

V and I went to the gun shop the other day and the attendant was shoving pistols at us left right and center.
I was too scared to hold them :o

V and I went to the gun shop the other day and the attendant was shoving pistols at us left right and center.
I was too scared to hold them :o

A pistol is a tool, just like hair clippers, or a hammer, or photoshop software. I can use three of those four, and yes, since I don't know how to use it the fourth one frightens me a little.

I can learn, however.

A pistol is a tool, just like hair clippers, or a hammer, or photoshop software. I can use three of those four, and yes, since I don't know how to use it the fourth one frightens me a little.

I can learn, however.

Question.. which is best... a .41 Rutger Red Hawl or a Colt .45 auto?

I'm a huge fan of autos... especially a .45.

I'm a huge fan of autos...especially a .45.







We have a lot of guns. My little lady smith is just right for me. My husband likes a colt .45 I just like any kind of revolver.

Question..which is best...a .41 Rutger Red Hawl or a Colt .45 auto?

Both have their merits. . 45 ammo is easier to find. As I have said before, I'm a revolver fan myself.

Both have their merits. .45 ammo is easier to find. As I have said before, I'm a revolver fan myself.

.22. Pistol. It's old but still works really well.

Blame it on the movies and games... although revolvers are VERY user friendly, never jams, never stovepipes, etc. I could never get over the six shots. Granted, I'll never be in a firefight where I need more than 6 rounds (I hope), but I always liked having the insurance of 12+1 rounds...

Blame it on the movies and games...although revolvers are VERY user friendly, never jams, never stovepipes, etc., I could never get over the six shots. Granted, I'll never be in a firefight where I need more than 6 rounds (I hope), but I always liked having the insurance of 12+1 rounds...




Hey, I've watched westerns (old ones) where they shoot a six gun 400 times without reloading. One of those would be nice! Sneezy and Cats you all are too young to remember Gene Autry... Roy Rogers. I was about five but I can remember.

Hey, I've watched westerns (old ones) where they shoot a six gun 400 times without reloading. One of those would be nice! Sneezy and Cats you all are too young to remember Gene Autry...Roy Rogers. I was about five but I can remember.

I'm old enough to have been horrified the first time Roy stuffed Trigger.

Sneezy, one of my favorite authors wrote, "Get a shot off fast. You may not hit anything but it will give you enough time to make your second shot perfect." (italics his)

Question..which is best...a .41 Rutger Red Hawl or a Colt .45 auto?

The best choice is the one you like most. Its really that simple. So long as your comfortable with the gun you shoot then there is the best for you. What fits your style may not work for someone else. I never rag people for their guns. Only for their lack of safety when it comes to being at the range.

The best choice is the one you like most. Its really that simple. So long as your comfortable with the gun you shoot then there is the best for you. What fits your style may not work for someone else. I never rag people for thier guns. Only for thier lack of safety when it comes to being at the range.

Thanks Cal Dad.. I like my .38's. Wouldn't mind owning a Browning.:)

Thanks Cal Dad..I like my .38's. Wouldn't mind owning a Browning.:)

There is so much out there and usually so much you can do to personalize one your options are almost unlimited. Its always "best" if you can handle it first before you buy one but with sites like gunbroker and auctionarms you can be like a kid in a candy store ;)

There is so much out there and usually so much you can do to personalize one your options are almost unlimited. Its always "best" if you can handle it first before you buy one but with sites like gunbroker and auctionarms you can be like a kid in a candy store ;)

We usually visit a few gun shows. I'm not that much into gun shows but hubby likes them... Some of those guys (mine included) look at those guns like their looking at a woman:eek:

Well, guns are more reliable than women ;)

Well, guns are more reliable than women ;)

:D:D:D: Sneezy, I knew one of you guys would say that! How did I know that? NO.. it can't be. I'm Psychic... NOOOOOOOOOOOO. Maybe psycho:D

:D:D:D: Sneezy, I knew one of you guys would say that! How did I know that? NO..it can't be. I'm Psychic.....NOOOOOOOOOOOO. Maybe psycho:D

Maybe you should moderate the Psychic thread. How many times in a day can you type "I won't tell you your wedding date."?

Maybe you should moderate the Psychic thread. How many times in a day can you type "I won't tell you your wedding date."?

Probably about ten times.. then I would lose my ability when the madness took over. :D Back to your response about Trigger. He was stuffed:eek: How many Triggers did they use?:confused:

Speaking of target practice...

I was a miner for several years. Underground hardrock mines.

No coal mines they are a different world.

But we drilled and blasted are way around , unlike coal mines .Machines dig 'em.

So having the blasting certification I can purchase explosives easily and legally.

Have you ever shot dynamite with a gun? What fun that is!

The slugs hit with enough force to set off the dynamite.

I used 1/2 stick of 16" 90% per target. Set them at 125 to 150 yards out. Gave a target of 1" wide, 8" high.

When hit it sounds like a thunder clap . A good sized dust/dirt cloud too. It is more fun than humans should be allowed to have.

We would go out 40 miles in the west desert ,we call it, to be safe about it. No people , no animals, very little plant life.
Usually.

We had shot 15 of the 16 we had out this particular trip, when I saw a pickup heading our direction,
It pulled up by where we were and a couple of the local red necks got out and came over to us.

We been hearing some damn loud bangs . That you boys?
The one who could talk said.

I said yes , more than likely . We had been loading up bigger powder charges in the 300 mag and they were pretty loud. Kicked like a mule too. (I speak red neck)

Then I went to the stand, sighted in and shot the last target.

Literally open mouthed wide eyed stares from both for about 10seconds , Then the one who could talk looked at me and said, Will you load me up some of them , I'll pay you?

The person I was with has a nasty streak of morality and explained what we were doing.
But added we had special Federal Permits, and you would go to Federal Prison for 15 years if you got caught doing it without a permit.
Sos donebe dewinit!

I thought the one who only grinned and shook his head was going to cry.


Shooting is a fantastic sport.

Here is the legal stuff. And its pretty cool too. Not dynamite but still cool and did I mention legal??


Lol

Also they are great people.

https://www.tannerite.com/shop/category/exploding-rifle-targets/


Check the vid section.

Here is the legal stuff. And its pretty cool too. Not dynamite but still cool and did I mention legal ???


lol

Also they are great people.

https://www.tannerite.com/shop/category/exploding-rifle-targets/


Check the vid section.

I have little faith in anything legal and exploding :mad:.

I can buy dynamite legally... and posses it legally... Now you mention it , the legality of shooting it may need defining.:confused:

This "legal" stuff could be a good backup. Thanks!:D

I have little faith in anything legal and exploding :mad:.

I can buy dynamite legally....and posses it legally....Now you mention it , the legality of shooting it may need defining.:confused:

This "legal" stuff could be a good backup. Thanks!:D



What good are hollow points? I know a .22 revolver isn't as effective as
Say a glock or .32 Browning auto. I would think a .38 Smith or a Colt .45 would be the better weapon. My husband says, " If you are ever confronted by someone who intends to harm you, you better have more than a .22. He said they would have to standing real close for a .22 to do the job.

When a hollow point hits , the bullet "mushrooms" and the energy is spread out into what it hits more than a regular bullet that uses the energy to "pass through" a target.

A well placed shot from a .22 will work. But the bigger the bullet, the more power it has when it hits to "stop" a target.

Like hitting someone with a pebble or a fist sized rock . The big rock will always work better

What good are hollow points?

The little hollow is really good for filling with mercury or silver or arsenic. A cap of paraffin and it is dispersed inside the target, guaranteeing a dose of heavy metal poisoning even if the bullet can be removed.

If you can get it, nicotine sulfate is an even better filling.

The little hollow is really good for filling with mercury or silver or arsenic. A cap of paraffin and it is dispersed inside the target, guaranteeing a dose of heavy metal poisoning even if the bullet can be removed.

If you can get it, nicotine sulfate is an even better filling.

Maybe a nano-nuke in the future!:eek:

I can dream:rolleyes:

Maybe a nano-nuke in the future!:eek:

I can dream:rolleyes:




Yeah!:eek:

What good are hollow points? I know a .22 revolver isn't as effective as
say a glock or .32 Browning auto. I would think a .38 Smith or a Colt .45 would be the better weapon. My husband says, " If you are ever confronted by someone who intends to harm you, you better have more than a .22. He said they would have to standing real close for a .22 to do the job.

The .22 was a feared bullet to many police as it could pass through a bullet proof vest. In a rifle its used today by our military. The cartige is called .223. That's what most of the AR15 platform is. AR10 would be .308.

Hollow points have a less likely chance of passing through a target. They usually have a small entrance wound and a hoge hole on the other side. As already noted they mushroom out. What that does is reconfigure the bullet and caus tumbling. Its meant to make the intended target bleed out much faster. Also its safer in some situations as they don't pass through walls as easily. Where a FMJ (full metal jacket) might pass through and hit your neighbor.

the .22 was a feared bullet to many police as it could pass through a bullet proof vest. In a rifle its used today by our military. The cartige is called .223. Thats what most of the AR15 platform is. AR10 would be .308.

Hollow points have a less likely chance of passing through a target. They usually have a small entrance wound and a hoge hole on the other side. As already noted they mushroom out. What that does is reconfigure the bullet and caus tumbling. Its meant to make the intended target bleed out much faster. Also its safer in some situations as they dont pass through walls as easily. Where a FMJ (full metal jacket) might pass through and hit your neighbor.

Oh my:eek:

Oh my:eek:

For target prctice. Use FMJ that is the same grain (weight) bullet as your hollow point. Use the hollow for self defense. Also shoot hollows every once in awhile as many are made with a hotter (more punch) load.

You can compare pricing here for te different types of bullets.

AmmoEngine: .223 Remington/5.56x45mm, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/)

For target prctice. Use FMJ that is the same grain (weight) bullet as your hollow point. Use the hollow for self defense. Also shoot hollows every once in awhile as many are made with a hotter (more punch) load.

You can compare pricing here for te different types of bullets.

AmmoEngine: .223 Remington/5.56x45mm, Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals (http://www.ammoengine.com/)

Thanks Cal dad:)

Thanks Cal dad:)

I think you might like this video. It pretty much says it all ;)

YouTube - Round point Vs hollow point bullets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZbjQe8XRU)

Hello dad:

I'm a fan of Top Shot on the History Channel. Have you seen it?

I was awarded two shooting ribbons when I was in the Navy; distinguished pistol and distinguished rifle.

excon

Hello dad:

I'm a fan of Top Shot on the History Channel. Have you seen it?

I was awarded two shooting ribbons when I was in the Navy; distinguished pistol and distinguished rifle.

excon



Exy... I knew a guy who was in the navy who told me he used to shoot a .50 cal machine gun at garbage they threw off the ship. He was standing at the fantail on the Cannaberra.:eek:

Hello dad:

I'm a fan of Top Shot on the History Channel. Have you seen it?

I was awarded two shooting ribbons when I was in the Navy; distinguished pistol and distinguished rifle.

excon

I have been watching it but last nights show was a little disappointing. They made it too easy. Looked like beach ball size baloons for targets and furthest out was 150 yards. No brainer there. Lol. Exy thank you for your service to this country.


Did you see the "shooting gallery" episode yet?

I have been watching it but last nights show was alittle disappointing. They made it too easy. Looked like beach ball size baloons for targets and furthest out was 150 yards. No brainer there. lol. Exy thank you for your service to this country.


Did you see the "shooting gallery" episode yet?



We watch a lot of Military Channel... I like the episodes about WW2 and Vietnam weapons.

we watch a lot of Military Channel...I like the episodes about WW2 and Vietnam weapons.

Did you catch any of the new WW2 they had on history channel. They went back and enhanced the films before they tied it all together. It was like being there.

Did you catch any of the new WW2 they had on history channel. They went back and enhanced the films before they tied it all together. It was like being there.

I think I read somewhere or I may have dreamed this... A lot of footage used in "Saving Private Ryan was provided by the History channel. Didn't know they could do that. Have you seen the one about the real Jessee James and the one about Doc Holiday... he sure didn't look like Val Kilmer:eek:

I think I read somewhere or I may have dreamed this...A lot of footage used in "Saving Private Ryan was provided by the History channel. Didn't know they could do that. Have you seen the one about the real Jessee James and the one about Doc Holiday...he sure didn't look like Val Kilmer:eek:

Lol :)

lol :)

I wonder if CurlyBen got his name from the CurlyBen in Tombstone?:p

The History Channel had a segement a while back on the Old West.

I sit and watch these old westerns wher they can shoot twenty five times from a six gun and never have to reload.:D

I wonder if CurlyBen got his name from the CurlyBen in Tombstone?:p

The History Channel had a segement a while back on the The Old West.

I sit and watch these old westerns wher they can shoot twenty five times from a six gun and never have to reload.:D

The funny thing about those 6 shooters is that they weren't near as accurate as portrayed. Have you ever shot a gun that took 45 lc ?

While cruizing the internet highway I found this. Looks like great ricing on targets for practice.

Ref:

Official Shooting Targets (http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/)

Since it has been awhile I thought I would post something a little different to this thread. As many of us are awre there are places where gun ownership is frowned upon or for the person that wants a choice of non lethal weapon I have come across something of interest to all.

In another thread I suggested a paintball gun that shoots pepperballs. Well if you have never seen one nor heard of it before I thought a link to it would be helpful. It's a nonlethal choice for those that would like an option or don't have the option of a lethal weapon.

Ref:

PepperBall Technologies Incorporated | Products (http://www.pepperball.com/products.html)

Since it has been awhile I thought I would post something alittle different to this thread. As many of us are awre there are places where gun ownership is frowned upon or for the person that wants a choice of non lethal weapon I have come across something of interest to all.

In another thread I suggested a paintball gun that shoots pepperballs. Well if you have never seen one nor heard of it before I thought a link to it would be helpful. Its a nonlethal choice for those that would like an option or dont have the option of a lethal weapon.

Ref:

PepperBall Technologies Incorporated | Products (http://www.pepperball.com/products.html)



The TAC -700 looks like my kind of baby. If I were being stalked and he came near me here in the US I would shoot him. I'm rabid when it comes to my family and children. I could drop him from 30 ft with my S&W 38.

The TAC -700 looks like my kind of baby. If I were being stalked and he came near me here in the US I would shoot him. I'm rabid when it comes to my family and children. I could drop him from 30 ft with my S&W 38.

Sure but as we are seeing our northenly friends don't really have the same options. Also some don't like the lethal option. So this is a solution that could get them out of trouble. The FPS on a paintball gun is pretty high. Just imagine it filled with pepper balls. ;)

Sure but as we are seeing our northenly friends dont really have the same options. Also some dont like the lethal option. So this is a solution that could get them out of trouble. The FPS on a paintball gun is pretty high. Just imagine it filled with pepper balls. ;)






Those are awesome and are another option. Can you imagine being popped in the head or eyes with Tac-700? :eek:

Those are awesome and are another option. Can you imagine being popped in the head or eyes with Tac-700? :eek:

If shot in the eye then that person may not survive it. That would directly inject it into the brain. And the paintball gun is accurate to 60 ft and is a semi automatic so you can pop them and keep popping them or lay down a field of fire to protect against multiple attackers. Great nonlethal option.

Did you see the solid nylon ones? They are called glass breakers.

If shot in the eye then that person may not survive it. That would directly inject it into the brain. And the paintball gun is accurate to 60 ft and is a semi automatic so you can pop them and keep popping them or lay down a field of fire to protect against multiple attackers. Great nonlethal option.

Did you see the solid nylon ones? They are called glass breakers.

My hubby liked that. Now he's wanting to go shooting at the range tomorrow.

My hubby liked that. Now he's wanting to go shooting at the range tomorrow.

Hehehe. Time to click the target link and go for it!!

Official Shooting Targets (http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/)

hehehe. Time to click the target link and go for it !!!!!!!

Official Shooting Targets (http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/)




Wow!

Wow!!

They have great pricing. Im going to be ordering some soon from there. It's a lot cheaper then buying from my local stores or wallyworld.

They have great pricing. Im going to be ordering some soon from there. Its a lot cheaper then buying from my local stores or wallyworld.

I will look at these tomorrow. Hubby is like a kid in a candy store. Thanks CalDad.

The TAC -700 looks like my kind of baby. If I were being stalked and he came near me here in the US I would shoot him. I'm rabid when it comes to my family and children. I could drop him from 30 ft with my S&W 38.

KK I can't picture you packing one of those. But nice choice.

700 rounds a minute is going to have some affect.

Get 10 of those bad boys bursting on your skull every second is going to slow you down.
Or at least get your attention.

I heard a rumor there are napalm balls available from certain distributors?

KK I can't picture you packing one of those. But nice choice.

700 rounds a minute is going to have some affect.

Get 10 of those bad boys bursting on your skull every second is going to slow you down.
Or at least get your attention.

I heard a rumor there are napalm balls available from certain distributors??

Hey you couldn't go wrong with one of these. I know what I want for Christmas.

In this age of ambulance chasers, I prefer to make certain that the Estate is the only one that can sue me.

KK I can't picture you packing one of those. But nice choice.

700 rounds a minute is going to have some affect.

Get 10 of those bad boys bursting on your skull every second is going to slow you down.
Or at least get your attention.

I heard a rumor there are napalm balls available from certain distributors??

I think the napalm ones are a name that's branded to the type of paintball it is. Anything that would be flammable would cross over into a different class for weapons (incindiary).

I can't believe we are having this discussion.

Tick

I still like the TAC-700 with the pepper heads. Whoa! That would put the hurt on a Grizzly Bear.

When we go to the shooting range my husband takes an auto. I like my S&W.38 Lady. Great weapon.

I can't believe we are having this discussion.

tick

What part don't you believe ?

In this age of ambulance chasers, I prefer to make certain that the Estate is the only one that can sue me.

I think the saying goes as follows.

Id rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

I still like the TAC-700 with the pepper heads. Whoa!! That would put the hurt on a Grizzly Bear.

When we go to the shooting range my husband takes an auto. I like my S&W.38 Lady. Great weapon.

Did you really mean to say "auto"? Or did you mean semi auto?

I think the saying goes as follows.

Id rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

I prefer the other guy being carried by 6.

Did you really mean to say "auto"? or did you mean semi auto?

Semi -auto Confused

semi -auto Confused

A full auto weapon mean when you pull the trigger it fires one after the other until you let go. Machine gun is full auto. Semi auto is when you pull the trigger it fires 1 shot and reloads for you.

A full auto weapon mean when you pull the trigger it fires one after the other until you let go. Machine gun is full auto. Semi auto is when you pull the trigger it fires 1 shot and reloads for you.

No it would be nice to have one of those. Semi ; A Glock Nine mm can hold up to 21 rounds, depends on the magazine. Colt .45 191180 hold seven. You have to pull the trigger. They're all right , I prefer a revolver.:eek:

[QUOTE=tickle;2524732]okay, give me a link in member discussions and I will take it there. But, here or there, the point remains, there are guns available in Canada unlicensed and no one is registering them AB. I know what you are saying, and I agree. My dad was a hunter and I was too when I had the time, he didn't collect and back then guns had to be registered. His always were. That has stopped unless you don't know it has and you haven't been reading the papers.

I know you and others treat your guns in a responsible manner, that isn't to say other do; that is why I object to guns being discussing in AMHD. I don't see a problem with this request, and I don't agree with a post displaying a gun in the hand.


I do see and respect your point of view, but I feel that not talking about it, not expressing how we feel, trying to hide it like it doesn't exists, is not helping the issue, but sweeping it under the rug.

I don't feel that my siggy pic is going to influence anyone person to do anything specific. Maybe it is promoting "guns", but I am not against guns. I am not responsible for those who un lawfully own or distribute guns.


After all I have a picture of a pitbul in my avi, and I know you know that I would NEVER support dog fighting. Same idea.

I do feel that any one person should be able to own guns, I do feel that they should be registered, and I do feel that people need to take proper precaution in using firearms. But no matter what the situation is, there is always going to be those people who abuse certain situations.

I hope that makes sense... :p

Considering our gun registry in many Canadian provinces is compromised. We don't know where the guns are coming from; possibly over the border. I strongly object to the gun posts. The death rate in the Toronto area is extremely high because guns are being used for random shooting. Machine guns (for m lack of a better description) are being used as well. Meaning, they are firing them for fun and not caring who they hit.

I don't like ABs signature one little bit; but that is just me. Can we not talk about guns here AMHD because it may seem we promote this gun adventure.

Don't get me wrong, I know there are people who enjoy guns, hand guns, hunting guns, whatever and proper licensing and usage is tantamount.

I would like to see ABs signature with the gun removed. I can use a .22 for target practice (yes I now what she is holding is not a .22)with the best of them, but I don't advertise it.

tick

This is what spawned my response, Dad, I hope you don't mind we moved our gun talk here.

By Tickle in the Pictures of our members thread;


okay, give me a link in member discussions and I will take it there. But, here or there, the point remains, there are guns available in Canada unlicensed and no one is registering them AB. I know what you are saying, and I agree. My dad was a hunter and I was too when I had the time, he didn't collect and back then guns had to be registered. His always were. That has stopped unless you don't know it has and you haven't been reading the papers.

I know you and others treat your guns in a responsible manner, that isn't to say other do; that is why I object to guns being discussing in AMHD. I don't see a problem with this request, and I don't agree with a post displaying a gun in the hand.

I wish to address this post. I'll do it here as it's a more appropriate place.

What does a picture of a gun have to do with Canadian gun laws? First, it's not even a picture of Bella and her gun, as far as I know she doesn't own one. It's not easy to get a gun in Canada, at least not in my part of Canada, licensed or unlicensed. Heck, we have two rifles, rifles we don't even use, but just to keep them we had to jump through hoops, pay hundreds of dollars, take a test, answer a very long questionnaire, etc. etc.

Tick, you may object to guns being discussed on AMHD, but if we got rid of threads or forums to make everyone happy, there wouldn't be an AMHD. I don't particularly like the skin lightening forum, or the current events forum, but everyone has a right to discuss what they wish to discuss. You cannot dictate what is discussed here just because you don't like it.

So, my suggestion to you, avoid the gun threads. If you don't like Bella's avy, don't look at it. Problem solved.

I do have a pellet gun, but it doesn't have to be registered. :p

I have been taught to use guns, my fathers profession and pass times made it possible for me to get the proper practice and knowledge that anyone should have before picking up a gun.

No that is not me in the picture, but I happen to like it. It was given to me by a friend who was concerned about my situation, and for what ever reason it made me smile. (Thanks Dad)

I didn't want to offend anyone with it. But I guess I kind if feel like Alty here, don't like it? Don't look at it...

By Tickle in the Pictures of our members thread;



I wish to address this post. I'll do it here as it's a more appropriate place.

What does a picture of a gun have to do with Canadian gun laws? First, it's not even a picture of Bella and her gun, as far as I know she doesn't own one. It's not easy to get a gun in Canada, at least not in my part of Canada, licensed or unlicensed. Heck, we have two rifles, rifles we don't even use, but just to keep them we had to jump through hoops, pay hundreds of dollars, take a test, answer a very long questionnaire, etc. etc.

Tick, you may object to guns being discussed on AMHD, but if we got rid of threads or forums to make everyone happy, there wouldn't be an AMHD. I don't particularly like the skin lightening forum, or the current events forum, but everyone has a right to discuss what they wish to discuss. You cannot dictate what is discussed here just because you don't like it.

So, my suggestion to you, avoid the gun threads. If you don't like Bella's avy, don't look at it. Problem solved.

That was kind of hard nosed, alty, and I don't know why you would take that attitude with me. Skin lightening threads cannot possibly compare to discussion on guns. Why would you say I am dictating, alty. Not dictating, only suggesting.

Sorry, but I am not backing down and why would you expect me to.

Edit: no I don't have to look at it, but every time I see a post by AB, and I love her to death and her posts too, how can I miss it?

Tick

I have guns. My husband has guns. We've taught our children
About gun safety. I should shoot my dad's shotgun when I was nine.

When our grandsons are old enough we take them to gun safety classes. Freedom to bear arms.

If a criminal is going to get a gun I don't think he's going to buy one.
Parents who have children should
Teach them the pros and cons of guns.

I have guns. My husband has guns. We've taught our children
about gun safety. I sould shoot my dad's shotgun when I was nine.

when our grandsons are old enough we take them to gun safety classes. Freedom to bear arms.

If a criminal is going to get a gun I don't think he's going to buy one.
parents who have children should
teach them the pros and cons of guns.


I agree Kit, regardless if there is harsher rules with guns, criminals aren't going to buy legally or register anyway...

What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.

edit: no I dont have to look at it, but everytime I see a post by AB, and I love her to death and her posts too, how can I miss it?

tick

Tick, I adore you too, and I do respect you, and I don't want this to lead to hard feelings. But the picture to me doesn't represent illeagal activities, or criminal, it represents an independent woman, a strong woman, a woman in charge.

A woman not to mess with. And that's the inspiration I needed.

Freedom to bear arms. We have a right to own guns. There are threads here about everything. Why not guns? I agree Alty... it's it's a discussion board.

Tickle, I mean no disrespect to you, but it's not right to have some discussions that are controversial and not be able to discuss hobbies here.

Millions love to discuss guns and I see nothing wrong with it.

Tick, I adore you too, and I do respect you, and I don't want this to lead to hard feelings. But the picture to me doesn't represent illeagal activites, or criminal, it represents an independent woman, a strong woman, a woman in charge.

A woman not to mess with. And that's the inspiration I needed.

Good for you ab, whatever works is what I say, but to me that is just a gun.

Bella... You're fine. I like the gun.

that was kind of hard nosed, alty, and I don't know why you would take that attitude with me. Skin lightening threads cannot possibly compare to discussion on guns. Why would you say I am dictating, alty. Not dictating, only suggesting.

Sorry, but I am not backing down and why would you expect me to.

Edit: no I don't have to look at it, but every time I see a post by AB, and I love her to death and her posts too, how can I miss it?

Tick

You're not dictating Tickle? You're not trying to tell people what they can post about and what avy's they can have? Could you explain this than?


I would like to see ABs signature with the gun removed.


that is why I object to guns being discussing in AMHD. I don't see a problem with this request, and I don't agree with a post displaying a gun in the hand.

You want Bella to remove her signature, and you don't want guns being discussed on AMHD. So what would you like done? People have a right to discuss what they want to discuss within the rules of this site, and guns aren't against the rules. A picture of a gun is not against the rules. Why should Bella have to remove that picture just because one person doesn't like it?

I don't see what's "hard-nosed" about that. Don't like it, don't look, don't read, just ignore. That's the only option you have.

You're not dictating Tickle? You're not trying to tell people what they can post about and what avy's they can have? Could you explain this than?





You want Bella to remove her signature, and you don't want guns being discussed on AMHD. So what would you like done? People have a right to discuss what they want to discuss within the rules of this site, and guns aren't against the rules. A picture of a gun is not against the rules. Why should Bella have to remove that picture just because one person doesn't like it?

I don't see what's "hard-nosed" about that. Don't like it, don't look, don't read, just ignore. That's the only option you have.



Alty.. you're doing what you always do and that's standing up for what you think is right and I agree with you. You aren't hard-nosed just a
Person who tries to make everything okay and we all love you just the way you are... Kit

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Don't like it, don't look, don't read, just ignore. That's the only option you have.

In order to avoid a long winded discussion and bad feelings, I say it again, I respectfully submit, y ou got that alty, that I will not look, will ignore, won't read. Does that make you happy? AB and I are fine on what has transpired and you should be too.

Did you miss this post, alty:





What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.

Did you miss this post, alty:





What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.




Tickle.. I will add this.. why do you object to a gun thread? What if people objected to forums where you are an expert. Would you be upset?
I think you would. This board gives us freedom of expression and speech as long as we follow the rules. I'd like to see the gun thread grow and maybe some gun safety tips.

If the Mods had objected... there would be no gun thread . I think hurting peoples feelings about this is wrong on your part. You don't care much for me anyway so I'll just say this... You need to knock it off about the avatars and the gun thread.

Tick, do you want a fight? I'm not in the mood.

Bottom line, when you own a site and pay for it's upkeep, you can dictate what discussions are allowed, and what avatars are allowed. Until then, you're just a member like the rest of us, and you have no say in what others wish to discuss.

You and Bella may be okay, but you're the one that posted this in the public forum instead of dealing with it via PM. So, you opened this can of worms, now it's all hunky doorie and we're just supposed to let it drop? How's that?

As for your post, I was writing when you posted it, so yes, I did miss it.

I'm done. You have no case, you've made your feelings about guns clear, it's been noted, the end.

Good luck Tick. I don't wish to fight on my birthday.

What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.

If you read the heading on this thread started by me I had asked for others to show respect of opinions. And Im glad this discussion moved to this thread. I respect your opinion in not wanting to promote guns in any way. Many here and elsewhere have fun with them and use them for sport as well. Self defense is always a thought but not the main purpose for many people. As always to each his/her own. Welcome to the thread. Debate away. Above all have fun!!

I will mention that the only thing objectionable about the pic in Bell's sig is that it violates the first rule of gun safety: Don't point a gun at something you aren't shooting. Or did the camera get destroyed?

I've said this before. When every kid in all of North America could shoot by the age of twelve, there was no such thing as "gun violence." There was violence, sometimes guns were used, sometimes frying pans, sometimes chainsaws.

I will mention that the only thing objectionable about the pic in Bell's sig is that it violates the first rule of gun safety: Don't point a gun at something you aren't shooting. Or did the camera get destroyed?

I've said this before. When every kid in all of North America could shoot by the age of twelve, there was no such thing as "gun violence." There was violence, sometimes guns were used, sometimes frying pans, sometimes chainsaws.

You hit the nail on the head cats. We always had guns in the house when I was a kid. We still do at our house.

.
. You don't care much for me anyway so I'll just say this...You need to knock it off about the avatars and the gun thread.

Where did you ever get the idea I didn't care much for you, where is that coming from?? You are taking this to a another level now kit, and I never inferred I didn't like anyone. I just don't like guns.

I don't need to knock it off about anything, Kit. I already have dropped it. I said AB and I are okay with what transpired. She explained it wasn't her in the her signature, Kit. She also explained why she trained with guns.

In any event, your laws in the US don't even relfect on our laws up here. We don't have the same constitution as yours, as in freedom to bare arms.

Tick

My feelings with guns are if you are afraid to be a victim, you need to practice NOT being one.

My feelings with guns are if you are afraid to be a victim, you need to practice NOT being one.

I agree Bella...

Not that I'm not paying attention but - honestly - I thought that was a CAMERA in AuroraBells signature. Now that I've taken a second look...

Gun story - let's see. I have a carry permit because of my work, was licensed to carry by the Federal Government, took all the classes. Thought I knew what I was doing BUT some years ago my ex-husband had a shotgun in the house. I heard a commotion outside, looked out, man had jumped over our chainlink fence and was picking up our lab puppy. I grabbed the shotgun and ran outside, yelled at him, he put the puppy down, backed up against the fence, threatened me. Keep in mind I had the gun. He was (apparently) unarmed. I was shaking from head to foot. A neighbor heard the yelling, called the Troopers, they got here, I'm still holding the guy at gunpoint. I swear if he would have moved toward me I would have shot him. It made me think about guns and gun safety.

I was simply too scared to tell him to leave - and to this day that scares me.

He was arrested, he was found guilty of trespass and that was the end of things but I think it was a sobering moment for both him and me.

Is there a point here? I don't know - and I still have a carry permit but we got rid of the shotgun.

Not that I'm not paying attention but - honestly - I thought that was a CAMERA in AuroraBells signature. Now that I've taken a second look ...

Gun story - let's see. I have a carry permit because of my work, was licensed to carry by the Federal Government, took all the classes. Thought I knew what I was doing BUT some years ago my ex-husband had a shotgun in the house. I heard a commotion outside, looked out, man had jumped over our chainlink fence and was picking up our lab puppy. I grabbed the shotgun and ran outside, yelled at him, he put the puppy down, backed up against the fence, threatened me. Keep in mind I had the gun. He was (apparently) unarmed. I was shaking from head to foot. A neighbor heard the yelling, called the Troopers, they got here, I'm still holding the guy at gunpoint. I swear if he would have moved toward me I would have shot him. It made me think about guns and gun safety.

I was simply too scared to tell him to leave - and to this day that scares me.

He was arrested, he was found guilty of trespass and that was the end of things but I think it was a sobering moment for both him and me.

Is there a point here? I don't know - and I still have a carry permit but we got rid of the shotgun.

What might he have done if you hadn't had the gun?
He still threatened you when you had it.

It is conjecture , but I would want the gun in hand and I too would have used it had he moved towards me.
Knowing how to use guns, I would have removed one or both of his knees.

Knowing how to use guns, I would have removed one or both of his knees.

In most jurisdictions, cops tell me, if he bleeds inside the house it's self defense. I would not allow for an assault charge or a civil lawsuit at a later time if I can beat the manslaughter first time out.

In most jurisdictions, cops tell me, if he bleeds inside the house it's self defense. I would not allow for an assault charge or a civil lawsuit at a later time if I can beat the manslaughter first time out.

Guess what I saw today in a pawn shop? My husband and I had taken my mom to Dialysis and we had some time to kill. We have been looking
For a Bow so we went to this pawn shop and there were so many guns. I found a lady smith with a pink handle Snub nose. Cute.

They had a .38 Taurus. I don't like that brand. They a few Stars, don't like them either.

They had a .38 Taurus. i don't like that brand. They a few Stars, don't like them either.

Taurus is all right. H&K is better.

I still like my Colt.

Taurus is alright. H&K is better.

I still like my Colt.

My husband has a colt and a few other guns. I like a revolver. Should have bought that pin LSW. Youi can find some good stuff in a pawn shop.

What might he have done if you hadn't had the gun?
He still threatened you when you had it.

It is conjecture , but I would want the gun in hand and I too would have used it had he moved towards me.
Knowing how to use guns, I would have removed one or both of his knees.


With the pistol, yes. With the shotgun I would have blown his head off. I am a lot more confident with a handgun and that's why the shotgun is gone.

With the pistol, yes. With the shotgun I would have blown his head off. I am a lot more confident with a handgun and that's why the shotgun is gone.



Hey Judy.. what kind of gun do you carry? I love my Lady Smith.:cool:

In most jurisdictions, cops tell me, if he bleeds inside the house it's self defense. I would not allow for an assault charge or a civil lawsuit at a later time if I can beat the manslaughter first time out.


I hope you can defend yourself where you are attacked.
And jurisdiction is everything for sure.

I was watching one of those Repoman shows and they said in Texas , after dark, you can shoot trespassers.

With the pistol, yes. With the shotgun I would have blown his head off. I am a lot more confident with a handgun and that's why the shotgun is gone.

Well said.

I hope you can defend yourself where you are attacked.
And jurisdiction is everything for sure.

I was watching one of those Repoman shows and they said in Texas , after dark, you can shoot trespassers.

If someone broke into my house... I think I would fire at him. Scare him until the police got there. If somebody hurt one of my children or grandchildren.. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot him till there were no more bullets in the gun.:eek:

With the pistol, yes. With the shotgun I would have blown his head off. I am a lot more confident with a handgun and that's why the shotgun is gone.

What Ive always tried to explain to people that own or are thinking of owning a gun is the most important thing no matter what is that your comfortable with it. The brand nor size doesn't matter. So long as your comfortable. I have friends that shoot cowboy action and other that do IDp competitions and 3 gun competitions. And for all of them its different. My motto is.. if that is what you like - Go for It!!


Welcome to the thread Judy ;)