Taurus is alright. H&K is better.

I still like my Colt.

Taurus is actually making a comeback these days. Their pricing and quality of guns has gone way up. Mostly that's the semi-automatic ones. Im not sure about the wheel guns. They have a really nice 1911 in the lineup and its at a fair price.

I've said this before. When every kid in all of North America could shoot by the age of twelve, there was no such thing as "gun violence." There was violence, sometimes guns were used, sometimes frying pans, sometimes chainsaws.

Important to note that while this is true, societal/familial behaviour was also quite different then as well. There is no question that this also accounted for a lack of "gun violence"; likely to an even greater extent.

<stepping back into the shadows> ;)

First han gun I ever owned was a two shot Derringer. Fit right in the palm of my hand. Hubby wants another Glock. A .9 mil.model 21.

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Important to note that while this is true, societal/familial behaviour was also quite different then as well. There is no question that this also accounted for a lack of "gun violence"; likely to an even greater extent.

<stepping back into the shadows> ;)

Back in the day it wasn't as stressful and it wasn't as isolated in the big cities either. In today's times the only gun play children are getting is from video games. And not from the imagination like many used to have growing up. How did we all survive ?

First han gun I ever owned was a two shot Derringer. Fit right in the palm of my hand. Hubby wants another Glock. A .9 mil.model 21.

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You sure you got that right? The ones Im seeing are 45acp. For a glock 21.

http://www.gunbroker.com

You sure you got that right? The ones Im seeing are 45acp. For a glock 21.

Guns - Online Gun Auction - Guns at GunBroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com)

Glock 41 model 21 .9mil.

glock 41 model 21 .9mil.

Should be nice. And yours is going to be?? Can't get just 1 ;)

Should be nice. And yours is going to be???? Can't get just 1 ;)

I want that little lady smith I saw today.. pink... I swear. Looks like the one I have but it's pink. That or a .38 special.:eek:

I want that little lady smith i saw today..pink...I swear. Looks like the one I have but it's pink. That or a .38 special.:eek:

I can see it now. You with the pink lady smith. You will be the lady gaga of AMHD :)

I can see it now. You with the pink lady smith. You will be the lady gaga of AMHD :)

Or the Gaga lady of AMHD.

I can see it now. You with the pink lady smith. You will be the lady gaga of AMHD :)

... :D:D

A real cowgirl... :cool:

.................................................. .................:D:D

A real cowgirl..............:cool:

That's not for cowgirls. Too much sophistication :)~~~~


S&W M642 .38Spl 2" Pink revolver $393.00 SHIPS FREE (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_39_72/products_id/411535197)

:)
Thats not for cowgirls. Too much sophistication :)~~~~


S&W M642 .38Spl 2" Pink revolver $393.00 SHIPS FREE (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_39_72/products_id/411535197)

That is the cutest thing. 393.00. Not bad. Same price at a pawn shop.

I want one of these:

http://www.loneleeplanet.com/blogs/loneleeplanet/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HelloKitty-1.jpg

I want one of these:

http://www.loneleeplanet.com/blogs/loneleeplanet/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HelloKitty-1.jpg

Sweet... I love the color.

I want one of these:

http://www.loneleeplanet.com/blogs/loneleeplanet/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HelloKitty-1.jpg

I wonder if it comes in green with Marvin the Martian. ;)

I told V he should get a pink one for work and carry it out the outside of his jacket... he said no.

Now with a laser its amazing what types of things they can put on grips. 1911 grips vary so much there is something for everyone :)


http://www.gungrips.net/gun_grip_images.htm

Now I know I am late. Always late lately. I have seen why the discussion came here and all of that.

I personally do not own a gun but have family member that was in a gun club, owned several different guns. Always keeps them locked up in his safe, all registered.

There is nothing in my own opinion wrong with talking about guns, having threads about guns, discussing what guns you like to get or have , etc...

As far as all the deaths in Toronto. There is violence around the world. You know what most of the deaths are actually gang members shooting up other gang members with illegal guns and have to do with drugs.

AB, I like your signature and your picture and am glad that you will keep it there. No one has a right to tell you to take it off.

Even other people shared pictures of their new guns as a proud owner of a new baby which is nothing wrong with it.

Now there are accidents that happen. There are situations that happen that should not. The thing is it is all about safety and training. Knowing how to keep them safe and away from criminals that might steal them.

Obviously does not matter how strict gun laws are, criminals will always get their hands on them. It is all about personal choices and just because somebody chooses to have a gun or gun collection and etc in their home does not make them bad or wrong or anything else for that matter.

I personally would not carry a gun or own a gun and store it at home having a little child at home. Also my wife does not like the idea of any guns at all. That is fine.

It is called personal choice, but to say that no one should be talking about it on a thread or have pictures of it. Is pompous.

Welcome to the thread jesushelper. This thread is for discussion of all sides. I started it because there really was no place for it other then "hunting". Main thing here is to have fun!!

This what I carry...

http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesThumbs/85SSPRL.jpg

Pretty!!

:)

That is the cutest thing. 393.00. Not bad. Same price at a pawn shop.

But the one you get at the pawn shop is used!

pretty !!!!

Does it look like me or what!

Does it look like me or what!!

Sure does. Isn't all show either. That things got pop to it ;)

Here's the concealedhttp://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/tacticalproductsgunholsters_2124_28819535 purse I carry it in.

Sure does. Isnt all show either. That things got pop to it ;)

Yeah, it's got pop cause it's so light. Weighs about the same as a can of coke.

Sweet.... I love the color.

You can also order a pink gun cabinet to go with it... :)

Not gun related, but this caught my eye... although hubby vetoed the colour choice for some reason... :D

But the one you get at the pawn shop is used!

Your right... God I don't know how I manage to get out of the house. I really didn't about that J. Another thing why would someone pawn a gun?. Maybe it was used to kill someone.:eek: I'm an airhead sometime... :confused:

Your right...God i don't know how I manage to get out of the house. I really didn't about that J. Another thing why would someone pawn a gun?..Maybe it was used to kill someone.:eek: I'm an airhead sometime....:confused:

They pawn them for money Kit. If they are short of money for one reason or another.

There are background checks for guns too, not just people.

You can also order a pink gun cabinet to go with it.....:)

Not gun related, but this caught my eye....although hubby vetoed the colour choice for some reason.....:D

Oh, now that's CUTE!!

Your right...God i don't know how I manage to get out of the house. I really didn't about that J. Another thing why would someone pawn a gun?..Maybe it was used to kill someone.:eek: I'm an airhead sometime....:confused:

No your not. And it might be new. We don't know for sure because some pawn shops sell guns on the side both new and used. Once they have an FFL they can sell both.

They pawn them for money Kit. If they are short of money for one reason or another.

There are background checks for guns too, not just people.

I would like to buy that pink Lady Smith. If I do it'll be a new one and the pink gun cabinet. Yeah I know they pawn for money, I'll bet a lot of them are stolen.

I would like to buy that pink Lady Smith. If i do it'll be a new one and the pink gun cabinet. yeah i know they pawn for money, I'll bet a lot of them are stolen.

NooOOoooOo its not like that at all. If it were stolen or the serials messed up then they can't sell them. And for the stores its lost revenue. Plus all police departments run the serials when they are received and most states check them before they are sold too.

Shop down the road buys old ones and reconditions them. They got one in a few weeks ago that used to belong to a cop, it had never been fired but it still got the once over and was going up for sale.

Shop down the road buys old ones and reconditions them. They got one in a few weeks ago that used to belong to a cop, it had never been fired but it still got the once over and was going up for sale.

There are a lot of safe queens too out there waiting to be had.

What are the gun laws like in Australia Shaz? Do you own any?

NooOOoooOo its not like that at all. If it were stolen or the serials messed up then they can't sell them. And for the stores its lost revenue. Plus all police departments run the serials when they are recieved and most states check them before they are sold too.

I didn't know that. My Dad had a Colt .45 automatic , chrome plated. After he passed away , my mom kept it under the mattress. She got sick and was in the hospital and someone broke into her house and stole the gun,
My dads fiddle and other things. I just about knew who done it. I was so mad and hurt I went to the boys house (he lived about ten miles from the house) and ask him for the gun back.

He lied and then about three years after that he went to prison for armed robbery. They never found the gun he used.

Will defiantly have fun with it, (;

:p

:p

We could be the AMHD terminators:eek::eek::eek::D

I'm fixin' to use my pearl handled revolver!!

Someone stop me before I get locked up for life!

I'm fixin' to use my pearl handled revolver!!!

Someone stop me before I get locked up for life!




Hey trench coats.. the works!

Trench coats?

It's a good thing the key to the safe is hidden and I can't remember where it is right now.

Apparently I'm "like a child"

Oh, to hurt him would feel so good!

trench coats?

It's a good thing the key to the safe is hidden and I can't remember where it is right now.

Apparently I'm "like a child"

Oh, to hurt him would feel so good!!




Control yourself... If you hurt him the Nurse in you would kick in and you'd have to nurse him back to health:eek::D

Control yourself....If you hurt him the Nurse in you would kick in and you'd have to nurse him back to health:eek::D

Nah, I only deliver babies. Right now it would be my pleasure to watch him squirm.

Okay, TMI.

Nah, I only deliver babies. Right now it would be my pleasure to watch him squirm.

Okay, TMI.



It's okay we all have our days.:)

And Damm, I'm having one of those. I work my arse off only to get humiliated and down graded while he sleeps till noon or later.

Who we talking about here J? Is it who I think it is?

Yeah, Bella, it is. If it weren't so late I'd call you, but I got to get to bed. Had two days off and have to readjust to the night schedule again.

All right. Call me in the a.m if you want. Get some sleep. I'm heading that way myself.

Night all.

Alright. Call me in the a.m if you want. Get some sleep. I'm heading that way my self.

Night all.

PM me your number again. Had to erase it. I'll put it in my cell this time. I promise

What are the gun laws like in Australia Shaz? Do you own any?

Laws are tough if you are caught without a license, but it's pretty easy to get one (as long as you pass the police check)
Haven't got a gun yet, but I'm going to go wth V when he goes for his license... why should he have all the fun?

Don't plan on carrying it on me, just want to go down to the shooting range on the odd and have a bit of fun.

I carry...

What do you carry Adam?

Usually a .45

Here's a quote just for you, Califdad:

"All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse, and a good wife." Daniel Boone

Here's a quote just for you, Califdad:

"All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse, and a good wife." Daniel Boone

YouTube - Tom T. Hall - Faster Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TVutNFUd4&p=E432DB05F5127EE2&playnext=1&index=10)

Doesn't mention guns, but yet...

I have not heard that song in ages. Thanks for digging that one up.

I have not heard that song in ages. Thanks for digging that one up.

Of all the jobs I've had over the years, the most fun was programming a Saturday afternoon oldies radio show. Check the music forum, sometimes people get foolish and ask for recommendations so I have to give them 25 - 50.

Hope this isn't over the top ;)


YouTube - I Like Guns - Steve Lee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU)

Hope this isnt over the top ;)


YouTube - I Like Guns - Steve Lee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU)

D'you realise it cost right at a hundred grand to make that vid. Cool!

YouTube - Texas Monthly Talks TED NUGENT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHtw6WbbnM&feature=related)

Thoughts?

YouTube - Texas Monthly Talks TED NUGENT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHtw6WbbnM&feature=related)

Thoughts?

He speaks the truth. The second amendment is the only amendment that protects all the others.

Ive been a supporter of his for awhile. His rendition of the national anthem at the recent NRA convention was just awesome.

He speaks the truth. The second amendment is the only amendment that protects all the others.

Ive been a supporter of his for awhile. His rendition of the national anthem at the recent NRA convention was just awesome.

It was.

As for what he had to say, let me add that American Rifleman publishes at least a page (sometimes three) of instances where gun owners foil crimes in every issue.
When it was a monthly publication that was impressive.

I liked Ted Nugent before I knew he was for hunting rights. Loved his song about Fred Bear. Actually got to meet Fred Bear - my husband was buying a my first bow and we were down in Gainesville in '79. Got a nice compound bow and used that for many years.

I remember the American Rifleman magazine and that section where gun owners foil criminals. Reminds of when I was living in Spokane ('78,'79) and there was a rash of home break ins and robberies. Well, one guy broke into a home of an elderly woman. He thought piece of cake - she had a shotgun and shot at him, wounding him in the leg. As he was running out of the house, she got after him and dragged him back in, calling the police about the break in. She made sure she had "her man" for the officers. That was about the time I decided having a dog was not enough protection.

I liked Ted Nugent before I knew he was for hunting rights. Loved his song about Fred Bear. Actually got to meet Fred Bear - my husband was buying a my first bow and we were down in Gainesville in '79. Got a nice compound bow and used that for many years.

I remember the American Rifleman magazine and that section where gun owners foil criminals. Reminds of when I was living in Spokane ('78,'79) and there was a rash of home break ins and robberies. Well, one guy broke into a home of an elderly woman. he thought piece of cake - she had a shotgun and shot at him, wounding him in the leg. As he was running out of the house, she got after him and dragged him back in, calling the police about the break in. She made sure she had "her man" for the officers. That was about the time I decided having a dog was not enough protection.

My favorite slogan of all time hangs by the doorbell at my best friend's mother's house. It has a muzzle-on drawing of a revolver (if it's to scale it's about an .80 calibre) and a caption that reads Don't worry about the Dog.

Hope this isnt over the top ;)


YouTube - I Like Guns - Steve Lee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU)

He's kind of cute!

YouTube - Texas Monthly Talks TED NUGENT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHtw6WbbnM&feature=related)

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Ted Nugent is DA MAN!! He makes me... Um well, he's hot!

I would give anything to be able to send Little J to his camp in Michigan!

Since its been a bit slow. I thought I would post "that guy". You know, the one we all know.

LiveLeak.com - Michael Hollingsworth part 4 - HOLLINGSWORTH BECOMES "THAT GUY" AT THE RANGE (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5b_1285172241)

Since its been a bit slow. I thought I would post "that guy". You know, the one we all know.

LiveLeak.com - Michael Hollingsworth part 4 - HOLLINGSWORTH BECOMES "THAT GUY" AT THE RANGE (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5b_1285172241)

Hey CalD... Instead of that cute little Lady Smith, I had to get a new computer. I think I did something that made it smoke.:eek: Cats, when does Deer Season open in the South?

Hey CalD...Instead of that cute little Lady Smith, I had to get a new computer. I think I did something that made it smoke.:eek: Cats, when does Deer Season open in the South?

You made the new one smoke? Oh boy!!


Deer season is all year round when its roadkill :)

You made the new one smoke? oh boy !!!!!!


Deer season is all year round when its roadkill :)

The old one. My husband said the motherboard or motor board or outboard was fried. I think maybe when I hit it with the palm of my hand rather hard.. I killed it.:eek:

Cats, when does Deer Season open in the South?

Goes State by State. Most open around Oct. 20 for guns. Bow and Muzzle loaders are earlier. Alabama opens late this year, not until just before Thanksgiving.

Goes State by State. Most open around Oct. 20 for guns. Bow and Muzzle loaders are earlier. Alabama opens late this year, not til just before Thanksgiving.

I love all the videos.. I like guns... good one.:D

You made the new one smoke? oh boy !!!!!!


Deer season is all year round when its roadkill :)

Not quite. You need a tag for your F-150. It always says "Premium notice due by ..." and it's issued by Farm Bureau Insurance services.

Oh just an update I bought a holographic sight for my M4, yes it works and looks sweeeeeeet :D
Really pleased with it :)

oh just an update i bought a holographic sight for my M4, yes it works and looks sweeeeeeet :D
really pleased with it :)

What kind did you get?

Eotech, Trijicon, Bushnell??

Eotech

Eotech

Nice. I love the accessories they have. They are up to 5x now.

Can't wait to try it out in the field, needs some adjustment of course but should be fun, thing is I'm used to using the rifle sights :o

cant wait to try it out in the field, needs some adjustment of course but should be fun, thing is im used to using the rifle sights :o

Can you use a see through mount so you can use both?

I can but that would kind of be pointless in using the holographic sight as id still be using the rifle sights

i can but that would kind of be pointless in using the holographic sight as id still be using the rifle sights

Good to have a back up if your batteries run low or don't work at all.
Always keep spares with you because they can go without warning.

Yep will be doing, that's a good idea, cheers :)

I want a new rifle, that I can build up with accessories. Any suggestions? I am thinking AR-15 but I am not sure yet, Maybe start with something a little cheaper and work up.

I've been practicing a lot with my new Taurus PT738.
http://www.dgrguns.com/Taurus%20PT%20738%20hand.jpg

It's a .380: Not nearly as accurate as my Walther PK380 but a great pocket gun that I carry everywhere... Yes, legally: I have a concealed carry license :)

Frankly, I would NOT recommend the Taurus (or the Ruger) as the magazine release is too near where the thumb goes using a typical grip.

Next time I get a hankering for a new CC pistol, I'll look for one where the magazine release is in a better place.

I've been practicing a lot with my new Taurus PT738.
http://www.dgrguns.com/Taurus%20PT%20738%20hand.jpg

It's a .380: Not nearly as accurate as my Walther PK380 but a great pocket gun that I carry everywhere... Yes, legally: I have a concealed carry license :)

Frankly, I would NOT recommend the Taurus (or the Ruger) as the magazine release is too near where the thumb goes using a typical grip.

Next time I get a hankering for a new CC pistol, I'll look for one where the magazine release is in a better place.

How about a Sig .380 auto. My husband has one.:D

I want a new rifle, that I can build up with accessories. Any suggestions? I am thinking AR-15 but I am not sure yet, Maybe start with something a little cheaper and work up.

Depends on the money you have to invest really. Many people like the AK47 platform. You can do tons of stuff with it and lets face it they are known for slinging lead downrange :)

SKS is another platform. The initial guns are cheap and you can customize them any way you like.

The only problem with semi auto's right now is they are so fun to shoot you can burn through ammo (expensive) like crazy. On the bright side any build your wanting to do no matter what platform you choose you have a great amount of choices you can make. They even have dedicated AR's in a 22 cal platform so they are cheap to shoot.

I've been practicing a lot with my new Taurus PT738.
http://www.dgrguns.com/Taurus%20PT%20738%20hand.jpg

It's a .380: Not nearly as accurate as my Walther PK380 but a great pocket gun that I carry everywhere... Yes, legally: I have a concealed carry license :)

Frankly, I would NOT recommend the Taurus (or the Ruger) as the magazine release is too near where the thumb goes using a typical grip.

Next time I get a hankering for a new CC pistol, I'll look for one where the magazine release is in a better place.



Welcome to the thread Rick J. Good to have your input and have fun!!

Welcome to the thread Rick J. Good to have your input and have fun !!!!

Hey CalD:eek: Tried to use a bow today . Oh my goodness. That thing is way to heavy for me and hard to pull back... I'm not sure.. but I think I killed my sister in laws cow!! :eek::eek: Kidding

Hey CalD:eek: Tried to use a bow today . Oh my goodness. That thing is way to heavy for me and hard to pull back....I'm not sure..but I think I killed my sister in laws cow!!!!:eek::eek: Kidding

There are different types of bows. So if your looking to get into it you can find one like a compound bow that may meet your needs. But cuddos for trying. They can be a lot of fun.

There are different types of bows. So if your looking to get into it you can find one like a compound bow that may meet your needs. But cuddos for trying. They can be a lot of fun.

No... I don't think I'll try the Bow again. Bengay is my best friend right now.:D

No...I don't think I'll try the Bow again. Bengay is my best friend right now.:D

And I had you pegged for an Icy Hot person. :o

Depends on the money you have to invest really. Many people like the AK47 platform. You can do tons of stuff with it and lets face it they are known for slinging lead downrange :)

SKS is another platform. The initial guns are cheap and you can customize them any way you like.

The only problem with semi auto's right now is they are so fun to shoot you can burn through ammo (expensive) like crazy. On the bright side any build your wanting to do no matter what platform you choose you have a great amount of choices you can make. They even have dedicated AR's in a 22 cal platform so they are cheap to shoot.

Thanks for the input. I would really like to get an AK47. I think that would be my best bet. So that may be my next gun. I bought an SKS a couple of years ago for dirt cheap and it was in perfect condition but I added a lot to it and it was a lot of fun. When I first got it, box of shells was $3.95 per box. Now they are $6.95 per box. So the whole time I am shooting I am saying, "35 cents, 35 cents, 35 cents" It kind of hurts when you think of it like that but it is fun to shoot.

Thanks for the input. I would really like to get an AK47. I think that would be my best bet. So that may be my next gun. I bought an SKS a couple of years ago for dirt cheap and it was in perfect condition but I added a lot to it and it was a lot of fun. When I first got it, box of shells was $3.95 per box. Now they are $6.95 per box. So the whole time I am shooting I am saying, "35 cents, 35 cents, 35 cents" It kind of hurts when you think of it like that but it is fun to shoot.

The only advice I can offer on a AK47 build is watch what you buy in the first place. I found out recently that the barrels came in different grades for accuracy. Another is ammo. But having owned a SKS you already know that. It pays off in the long run to shoot the modern non corrosive type. Plus not as much cleaning going on. The ammo for that platform is still at decent pricing so you can have a great shooter and still shoot it ;)

That sounds good then. I want to buy that one, I also want another 45 cal. or a 9mm. I have 2 45's but one I don't like and another one is about 65 years old and I would like to keep it to the side and get another one to play with. My 9mm is a Jiminez and I am not to impressed with it.

That sounds good then. I want to buy that one, I also want another 45 cal. or a 9mm. I have 2 45's but one I don't like and another one is about 65 years old and I would like to keep it to the side and get another one to play with. My 9mm is a Jiminez and I am not to impressed with it.

If your looking for a 1911 taurus makes a good one. They run around 600 us. Also it depends what you like. Real steel or tuppaware ;)

If you like steel then I would recommend a S&W 5906 for 9mm. Also baretta makes some nice 9mm too. 92fs are very nice :)

Remember to consider ammo prices.

I have a Walther P22 that I just love for the range or tin can shooting in the woods. They run about 4 cents each for a box of 525.

Of course the .22 is not going to offer me much "protection" but it's fun to shoot - and getting good with it also helps with my Walther PK380.

.380 rounds are about 40 cents apiece unless I can find them (which is rare) at WalMart for 19-23 cents each.

9mm and .45 rounds are even more expensive.

I love the .380 because of the decent price of ammo - and it's ability to put the bad guy down if I ever need it for that purpose.

As for a .45: Yes I know it's fun, but dang, those rounds are expensive!. and of course the gun itself is not cheap.

Just my 1.5 cents worth on the issue. I'm biased: I think .380 is the best bang for the buck (pun intended :) ) for both personal protection and fun shooting.

As for personal protection, remember this: If the bad guy is wearing armor, then it does not matter whether you have a .380 or a Desert Eagle .50.

Armor aside, 2-3 rounds into the center of mass, whether it's from a .380 or something bigger: Bad guy is going down.

Remember to consider ammo prices.

I have a Walther P22 that I just love for the range or tin can shooting in the woods. They run about 4 cents each for a box of 525.

Of course the .22 is not going to offer me much "protection" but it's fun to shoot - and getting good with it also helps with my Walther PK380.

.380 rounds are about 40 cents apiece unless I can find them (which is rare) at WalMart for 19-23 cents each.

9mm and .45 rounds are even more expensive.

I love the .380 because of the decent price of ammo - and it's ability to put the bad guy down if I ever need it for that purpose.

As for a .45: Yes I know it's fun, but dang, those rounds are expensive! ... and of course the gun itself is not cheap.

Just my 1.5 cents worth on the issue. I'm biased: I think .380 is the best bang for the buck (pun intended :) ) for both personal protection and fun shooting.

As for personal protection, remember this: If the bad guy is wearing armor, then it does not matter whether you have a .380 or a Desert Eagle .50.

Armor aside, 2-3 rounds into the center of mass, whether it's from a .380 or something bigger: Bad guy is going down.



RickJ... A lot the gun shows we have here maybe three or four times a year has cheap ammo. Kmart has some too. Some of the Army Surplus stores have ammo. You're right it's expensive... Kit


http://www.hotfrog.com/Companies/Bridgeport-Guns-Ammo

I usually buy my ammo at walmart for my .45 for about 34 cents a piece. (A box of 50 for $17.00)
I buy my 9mm ammo elswhere for about $10.00 for a box of 50. I usually go to knob creek a couple times a year and buy my SKS ammo because they usually have it cheaper.

I get mine by the case from AMMOMAN.COM d/b/a Discount Distributors (http://www.AMMOMAN.com)

I buy it by the case... between 9mm, 7.62 x 39 and .223 , I have a few other lesser used sizes I only buy by the box I use them so rarely. Like 8mm Mauser and 12 gauge.

Better to have more than you need, than need it and not have it.

Dang. I've checked the prices on all of the sites recommended above - and find that WalMart beats them all for 380 Auto rounds.

... so I'll stick with WalMart and keep checking their stock every few days on my way to the office, to build up my surplus. Thankfully, they were in stock earlier this week, so I bought another 200 rounds. I'll just keep buying rounds from them when they've got them.

To clarify, I'm paying 23 cents per round for "range rounds". They're 95 grain but have the flat head on them. No problem in my mind as I'm confident that even with range rounds, the bad guy will go down if he's hit in the chest with 2-3 of them.

No problem in my mind as I'm confident that even with range rounds, the bad guy will go down if he's hit in the chest with 2-3 of them.At the very least if he's high on something... it will slow him down enough you have time to get a few more off if needed.

And that's what matters most.

At the very least if he's high on something.....it will slow him down enough you have time to get a few more off if needed.

And thats what matters most.

Yep, I hear you.

And despite that I'm armed, I know the first and most important option if the situation warrants it: Run Away.

I'm no Rambo. I've never shot someone and hope to never have to. If running away is an option, I'll do it. If drawing the gun to make the bad guy run away, that's the next best option.

I hope and pray that I never feel the need to both draw and shoot.

Yep, I hear you.

And despite that I'm armed, I know the first and most important option if the situation warrants it: Run Away.

I'm no Rambo. I've never shot someone and hope to never have to. If running away is an option, I'll do it. If drawing the gun to make the bad guy run away, that's the next best option.

I hope and pray that I never feel the need to both draw and shoot.

I've never actually been in that situation where I had a gun... so yeah its hard to know for certain until you have been what you would do and how.

Yeah, it's a strange state of mind to be in at that moment.. particularly in retrospect. I HAVE been in a stituation many years ago where I was assulted by two bigger guys (no guns involved) and I was ready to kill one.. the other limped away on his own.. what stopped the incident wasn't any moral code or fear... It was a neighbor that came up from behind me as I started a started to pull a Mickey Mantle home run with the guys head with a steel bar, early enough the guy just got cold cocked and was hauled off in an ambulance (for his other injuries as well) because I never got the swing off in full before I was wrestled to the ground. And damn, that is a scarey frame of mind to have, because I was calmly ready to kill the guy at that moment. I've actively managed to avoid getting to that state of mind ever since... I know what I could do in the circumstance... I don't know how I would deal with it later. And I really don't EVER want to go there again. It was over 30 years ago... and I can remember it like it was yesterday. Thank god for several years of martial arts training.

But like you know... when you or your family is at risk.. particularly in your own house.. then all bets are off.

Amen, brother. I know well that if it came down to me having to draw my gun, I'd probably be shaking like Don Knotts in The Shakiest Gun in the West.

... but hopefully I'll do the right thing.

Amen, brother. I know well that if it came down to me having to draw my gun, I'd probably be shaking like Don Knotts in The Shakiest Gun in the West.

...but hopefully I'll do the right thing.

The one time I was that close... I wasn't shaking... I was dead calm and focused (almost tunnel vision type of focus)... oh later was a different thing yeah a half hour later I had the shakes as bad as you imagined having... but the focus, clarity and calm I had at that moment scared the hell out of me in hindsight... because I am rarely that focused and calm usually... and never when I'm upset or angry (yeah I am an excitible person)... and the fact I can still remember it so vividly even decades later.

1> all handguns are pistols.
2> revolvers or semi automatics.

Here is a story, somoene pulled a gun on me, I knew the make and model of it, and exactly how it comes apart to clean. I released the magazine, moved the slide forward slightly, then caught the magazine before it could leave the gun with one finger, returning the slide to the rear, and slappled the magazine back into the gun afterward with my finger, and took the slide off the gun, in one deft motion, per the person I 'disarmed'. You can see something similar with jet li in one of the lethal weapon movies, but I did it first. But I know no one believes me. It is okay. As highest ranked martial artist in the world I am often doubted, I mean the guy did not even see take the gun apart, but he was standing there holding a frame, with a magzine in it
eawoodall

Good story above, not that I believe it, but good story.

But that is what they teach at the academy is that no one knows what will happen, which is why prisons try to be careful on who they pick to be in the towers where they may have to shot an unarmed person running. Not something anyone wants to do I am sure.

But I have had to pull a weapon on someone many times over my life and career and it is one of those things, if you are not sure you can pull the trigger, you have no business carrying one.

The story above is a prime example, if a weapon is pulled it should have been used if and when the other person did anything aggressive ( if that is why you have it pulled)
Which of course is why I am alive to day, the other people who have pulled one on me before, paused or hesitated instead of pulling the trigger.

Good story above, not that I believe it, but good story.

But that is what they teach at the academy is that no one knows what will happen, which is why prisons try to be careful on who they pick to be in the towers where they may have to shot an unarmed person running. Not something anyone wants to do I am sure.

But I have had to pull a weapon on someone many times over my life and carreer and it is one of those things, if you are not sure you can pull the trigger, you have no business carrying one.

The story above is a prime example, if a weapon is pulled it should have been used if and when the other person did anything agressive ( if that is why you have it pulled)
Which of course is why I am alive to day, the other people who have pulled one on me before, paused or hesitated instead of pulling the trigger.

Totally agree there... if you have it, or pull it out you better use it or the other guy WILL take if off you and use it against you. And the results of that won't be pretty.

Not many normal people WANT to be in the situation where they have to use it... they just don't want to the person that brought a knife to a gun fight. And if you won't fight for yourself or your family in your own home... then you forfeit rights to complain about crime.


Teach kids from an early age a real gun isn't a toy and they will respect it growing up... my father did that from a very early age... not sure how young... just young enough I don't remember when it was. Me or my brother never once played with a real gun even though we had several around in a gun rack. We knew what was a toy and what was real. They weren't locked and ammo was at hand...

The one time I was that close....I wasn't shaking...I was dead calm and focused (almost tunnel vision type of focus)....oh later was a different thing yeah a half hour later I had the shakes as bad as you imagined having ....but the focus, clarity and calm I had at that moment scared the hell out of me in hindsight...because I am rarely that focused and calm usually....and never when I'm upset or angry (yeah I am an excitible person)...and the fact I can still remember it so vividly even decades later.

It's a comman fact that when faced with danger and high adreniline levels our bodies tend to go to tunnel vision to focus on the primary target. So your feeling is consistent with science. That's why police officers train so much to eliminate that factor and to broaden their view to eliminate danger and protect the innocent.

Since its quiet and if you would like to see what it looks like in some basic gun classes Ill post it here to fill some time with.

Aesir training basic defensive carbine class oct 9-10 2010



Aesir Training.com (http://www.aesirtraining.com/)


YouTube - 10-10-10 Basic Carbine class (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-_R9iHsnww)

YouTube - 10-10-10 Steve + Jeff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qAIvcwqlZs)

YouTube - 10-10-10 basic carbine Eddie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQMmJDwyWk)

YouTube - 10-10-10 eddie2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJeQ_jhEvVg)

YouTube - 10-10-10 Tim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdsvGr8fHc)

YouTube - 10-10-10 Steve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJzEQFOiEkQ)

YouTube - 10-10-10 Chris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWir_spvV0)

YouTube - JJ 10-10-10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf5l2ut_vwc)

Thank you to Aesir Training for making and posting the vids for everyone to see.

I sold my Taurus PT738 and got a Smith and Wesson Bodyguard 380.

WOW what a difference!

The magazine release is much better (not where my thumb will release it when shooting), it's got an active safety and clearly it's much more comfortable to shoot.

Super accurate at 25 feet.

I played around with it at 50 feet and did fairly well, but in reality I'll never use it in self defense at that range.

I sold my Taurus PT738 and got a Smith and Wesson Bodyguard 380.

WOW what a difference!!

The magazine release is much better (not where my thumb will release it when shooting), it's got an active safety and clearly it's much more comfortable to shoot.

Super accurate at 25 feet.

I played around with it at 50 feet and did fairly well, but in reality I'll never use it in self defense at that range.



Very nice !

Many have requested information about basics as well as instruction on firearm use. Im posting this link as it has a lot of good information on it. Its by a woman. So it's a great read with many more links.

Cornered Cat (http://corneredcat.com/)

Hello:

I thought my gun friends would appreciate this:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/excon-albums-excon%27s+private+stash-picture611-nail-gun.jpg

New Nail Gun, made by DeWALT

It can drive a 16-D nail through a 2x4 at 200 yards. It makes construction a breeze. You can sit in your lawn chair and build a fence. Just get your wife to hold the fence boards in place while you sit back, and relax. When she has the board in the right place, just fire away. With the hundred-round magazine, you can build the fence with a minimum of reloading. After a day of fence building with the new DeWalt Rapid fire nail gun, the wife will not ask you to build or fix anything else, probably, ever again.

excon

Hello:

I thought my gun friends would appreciate this:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/excon-albums-excon%27s+private+stash-picture611-nail-gun.jpg

New Nail Gun, made by DeWALT

It can drive a 16-D nail through a 2x4 at 200 yards. It makes construction a breeze. You can sit in your lawn chair and build a fence. Just get your wife to hold the fence boards in place while you sit back, and relax. When she has the board in the right place, just fire away. With the hundred-round magazine, you can build the fence with a minimum of reloading. After a day of fence building with the new DeWalt Rapid fire nail gun, the wife will not ask you to build or fix anything else, probably, ever again.

excon

I'm lovin' it! Where can I buy one of those? It would make great Christmas presents for me, myself and I. :)

... but it won't fit in my pocket very well, so I'll still carry my Smith and Wesson .380 in case I need to "quick draw" on a bad guy... or a bad fence that threatens me :)

I'm lovin' it! Where can I buy one of those?G'morning, Rick:

Home Depot?? It IS a nail gun, after all.

excon

Sorry, can't reply now as I'm heading off to Home Depot to buy that sweet gun :)

Hello again, Rick:

It didn't occur to me before, but I suppose it could be fake. A friend emailed it to me. I did NOT see it in a magazine. You know how the internet is. Let me know what you find when you get home.

excon

It's not a fake. When I got to Home Depot I had to ask for the "special tools" section... and then when I got there I had to show my Concealed Carry license and then give the password that allowed me into their "special tools" area.

I bought the one that you suggested, and also their sweet rocket launcher.

... so now I'm good to go! :D

I bought the one that you suggested, and also their sweet rocket launcher.

...so now I'm good to go! :DHello again, Rick:

So, it IS fake. I don't know. I looks real. What do I know about guns?

excon

Hello again, Rick:

So, it IS fake. I dunno. I looks real. What do I know about guns?

excon

It is real but it's a custom. That is the nice thing about AR's you can build them any way you like so long as you stay within the law. The new dip process for painting guns is awesome.

It's not a fake. When I got to Home Depot I had to ask for the "special tools" section... and then when I got there I had to show my Concealed Carry license and then give the password that allowed me into their "special tools" area.

I bought the one that you suggested, and also their sweet rocket launcher.

...so now I'm good to go! :D

Oooooooooooo I like that dewalt caulking gun. Putting down a smooth bead with an old style one is a task I'm still trying to master.

Hello:

I thought my gun friends would appreciate this:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/excon-albums-excon%27s+private+stash-picture611-nail-gun.jpg

New Nail Gun, made by DeWALT

It can drive a 16-D nail through a 2x4 at 200 yards. It makes construction a breeze. You can sit in your lawn chair and build a fence. Just get your wife to hold the fence boards in place while you sit back, and relax. When she has the board in the right place, just fire away. With the hundred-round magazine, you can build the fence with a minimum of reloading. After a day of fence building with the new DeWalt Rapid fire nail gun, the wife will not ask you to build or fix anything else, probably, ever again.

exconAt least its not pink.

My AR is Matte black... and will stay that way as long as I own it. And it's a very rare variant.

How many Colt AR-15's have you seen set up for the 7.62 X 39 round?

How many Colt AR-15's have you seen set up for the 7.62 X 39 round?Hello again, smoothy:

47.

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

47.

excon

Any idea where to get 30 round extended magazines for it? I made the mistake of not getting them when I got the rifle years ago and haven't had luck with admittedly half hearted searches for them.

Not sure how many they made of this variant. Don't know many that have even seen one.

OK, I see this is a gun thread... and I'd like an opinion...

Guys I have my restricted firearms license (canada) and I'm looking into buying rugers SR9 series 9mm semi-auto pistol... but I can't really afford the 700+ (after taxes) price. The reason I want the sr9 series, well heck rugers 9 mm in general is because of the safety being on both sides *i'm left handed* and I don't want to buy a custom left handed gun right now... Anyone know of any other makes and models (not revolvers please, pistols only. Preferabally semi-auto) that has the dual sided safety that would be in a lower price range in canada...

This is the one I was looking at on cabelas.ca

http://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?pageID=71&&section=1187&section2=1726&ID=9764

ok, i see this is a gun thread... and i'd like an opinion....

guys i have my restricted firearms license (canada) and i'm looking into buying rugers SR9 series 9mm semi-auto pistol... but i can't really afford the 700+ (after taxes) price. The reason i want the sr9 series, well heck rugers 9 mm in general is because of the safety being on both sides *i'm left handed* and i dont want to buy a custom left handed gun right now... Anyone know of any other makes and models (not revolvers please, pistols only. preferabally semi-auto) that has the dual sided safety that would be in a lower price range in canada...

this is the one i was looking at on cabelas.ca

Cabelas Canada - Firearms-Reloading - Handguns & Pistols - Ruger SR9 Semi Auto 9mm Pistol (http://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?pageID=71&&section=1187&section2=1726&ID=9764)



Most modern semiauto's have dual safety. The trick is that if you're a leftie then you need to pay attention to the mag release. On some models when shooting with the left hand it can get easily released. Also taurus is making some fine weapons. They even have a new sa/da model out. Something that can come in handy under extreme times..

Also you might try looking here for a store near you. Its much better if you can handle the gun before you buy it. Or if they have an indoor range you can shoot one.

FirearmsCanada.com Glock, Remington, Walther, Browning, Beretta, Bushnell, Armalite, Colt, Bushmaster, Marlin, Mauser, Mossberg, Para Ordnance, Ruger, Sako, Sig Sauer, Smith Wesson, Valtro, Weatherby (http://www.firearmscanada.com/gun_dealers.html)

I'll take a look into them.. I have used the ruger SR9 series pistol. Found the weight to be a perfect balance for me, the size of the pistol is a perfect combination of length versus grip size for my hands and my likings. I am an avid gun lover but I'm used to more rifles than handguns, I've been to the range, and tried a few out, 22's, revolvers, 9mm.

I like beretta's brand wise, but I'll admit, Rugers weapons and Remington's are some of my favorite.

Stories hmmm... I got a nice little video of me blowing things up but not sure of the bestway to show it? Any advice!

You can post it to YouTube or try other services like tinypic and post the link here to see it.

Welcome to the thread ;)

It's uploading right now! I'll put on here first!

0351 Urban Breaching & Demo Range(yes this is me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2r2ncl2SfA)

Very cool. Thanks for posting it!!

Did you hear sound?

No. It said sound was disabled due to copyright law.

:) Yea my debate is "pending". So in the meantime my AudioSwap is "pending" as well.

It still was a good one ;)

Here are the pictures from the start of this year's coyote hunt... thought you'd all enjoy them
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/binx44-albums-coyotes-picture622-coyote-2-2.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/binx44-albums-coyotes-picture621-coyote-2-5.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/binx44-albums-coyotes-picture620-coyote-2-4.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/binx44-albums-coyotes-picture615-coyote-1-1.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/binx44-albums-coyotes-picture617-coyote-1-5.jpg

Hello b:

I didn't enjoy them. I don't like seeing dead animals. I don't begrudge you your sport, and I'm a meat eater and a gun lover... But, I don't need to SEE them.

excon

I was asked to post them . I understand where your coming from, some like them, some don't.. at the same time though culling the population here isn't just sport. They are demolishing the deer populations and spreading disease.

i was asked to post them . Hello again, b:

Don't worry about it. I understand wildlife management. It's just the pictures...

excon

Yep, Coyotes are a huge problem a lot of places. And a problem in places people don't even know they roam. We even have them near where I am. And they WILL make a meal of someone's small dog or cat if they are let outside at night.

They are truly omnivores, and very active at night.

I actually saw one in my back yard a number of years ago... didn't have a camera handy and nobody believed that's what I saw then. And I'm miles from the closest undeveloped land.

Your right smoothy. Most people don't realize that they are everywhere. Mange is a big problem with them here this year. I've seen deer being chased by coyotes. The sad thing is. If the deer survives the chase, they don't usually survive afterwards because when a winded deer stays in the cold of winter they get pneumonia and usually won't last the winter in the first place

My uncle accidentally trapped a couple in WV, 20 years before there were even acknowleged to be in that part of the country by the Fish and Wildlife types.

He was a life long trapper and Hunter, and told him he was full of it when he called them. It was he that was right and they that was wrong. They actually told him he trapped somebodys dogs. Without even seeing them.

The ones you got seems unusually well fed. They are usually a lot leaner than they appear in those pictures. Compared to the few I've seen anyway.

They have almost decimated the deer and wild rabbit population on the mountain where I'm living. They've been stealing peoples pets bad. And that's why they are so well fed. In my area they breed with peoples dogs thus creating a larger heavier animal. We refer to these as coydogs because they are half coyote and half dog

Hello b:

I didn't enjoy them. I don't like seeing dead animals. I don't begrudge you your sport, and I'm a meat eater and a gun lover... But, I don't need to SEE them.

excon

I had asked they be posted in the gun thread as I also helped to answer questions to get them to the computer. Lol

I understand they aren't for everyone and respect that.

I understand they arent for everyone and respect that.Hello again, dad:

My story:

My dad managed Dave Cooks Sporting Goods in Denver, and brought home two brand new 22's every weekend during the summer... I was 12. We'd go jack rabbit hunting in the eastern plains... One day, when my dad I were taking a breather, a little bunny ran up to us and stopped. My dad pulled his .45 and blew the tip of his nose away. The bunny just stood there bleeding, so he shot him again...

I grew up being a hunter, and hunted for years.. I loved it, and then I didn't. That damn bunny kept cropping up in my memory, and hasn't gone away since.

Yeah... An excon and his bunny. Whoda thunk it? Now, let some sonofab!tch break into my house, and I'd have no trouble blowing him away. Do I need a doctor?

excon

No problem... Hunting isn't for everyone. You have the options of buying ready to cook meat these days.

I don't believe in killing animals just for the sake of killing them either. But things like vermin... and things like Deer and these have to be culled or overpopulation causes a host of secondary problems. Rabies, property destruction.. diseases for the surviving anmals.. etc. Which is the more humane path when you consider the alternatives?

Plus Deer make for good eating. But I'd have to be damn hungry to eat coyote.

Hello again, dad:

My story:

My dad managed Dave Cooks Sporting Goods in Denver, and brought home two brand new 22's every weekend during the summer... I was 12. We'd go jack rabbit hunting in the eastern plains... One day, when my dad I were taking a breather, a little bunny ran up to us and stopped. My dad pulled his .45 and blew the tip of his nose away. The bunny just stood there bleeding, so he shot him again...

I grew up being a hunter, and hunted for years.. I loved it, and then I didn't. That damn bunny kept cropping up in my memory, and hasn't gone away since.

Yeah... An excon and his bunny. Whoda thunk it? Now, let some sonofab!tch break into my house, and I'd have no trouble blowing him away. Do I need a doctor?

excon

Actually your head is in the right place. No worries man.

Some people do eat coyote though. *shudders* which I don't think I could... I know there's people around here that do eat it.. they make the meat into peperoni type ugg..

I hate hunting! I especially hate it when people hunt just for the sheer fact of killing. Not for warmth, food or to stay alive. I also think snaring and trapping is disgusting and cruel. Wow, you out smarted an animal! I don't understand what satisfaction someone can get from that. But that's just MHO. I found a snare with a dead rabbit in it once, and the rabbit was only caught by his foot. So how long was he there before he suffered and died? My neighbors dog also got caught in a snare, he did die instantly, but I will NEVER get that image out if my head.

Hunting; whether for sport or survival, in my own opinion is an act of genetic dna, a sense of empowerment, a strategic situation with conflicting skills.

Genetic DNA- We have hunted for thousands of years, with the sole purpose of providing food, clothing and tools. This has been a way of life passed down from our fore-fathers and their fore-fathers and so on and so on... I believe we still have this ingrained in us to hunt and kill for the sake of meat, for the sake of clothing and tools. We as now-a-days these items are obtained in much eaier ways it's still in us to take part in hunting.

Sense of empowerment- The human moral is set to want to feel successful and victorious. When you hunt and successfully bag an animal this feeling is obtained. I don't beileve this is the sole purpose of hunting but it adds to the affect.

Strategic Situation- We are taught how to handle a firearm, we are taught the skills to track animals, understand their way of life, predict situations beased on animal tendencies and presumed actions. Hunting allows us to use these skills taught to us by mentors or our parents. Using a skill that is so nomadic yet important in our way of life. Eat or be eaten if you will.

The above are in now way the sole purpose of hunting. They are a collective thought from me on justifying why I hunt, why I feel it OK to kill an animal.

I do not agree with snaring as it presents torture to the situation. That same rabbit caught in a snare, I would have no problem shooting with a 12gauge shotgun.

Animals have did this for thousands of years as well. Do you disagree with a coyote who hunts and kills a white-tail? Granted it's for food but I eat the deer I kill. The only question I see here is the purpose behind humans hunting, our intentions and what drives us to do so. Do we have to have a reason? Do I need to justify myself?

Now, if someone was to just go shoot an animal and leave it there and not care to go get it and skin it, eat it, etc... then yes, I disagree.

I live in rural Nova Scotia, I grew up on wild meat, my daughter has grown up on wild meat, I guess I am not so opposed to hunting and eating, using the skin for a lively hood etc.. As I am just killing to kill. I don't want to get into this too much, because I don't want to insult someone I DO consider my friend on here. To kill coyote's because they have attacked is just wrong to me. It's like those people who have tigers and wild animals and make them do circus tricks, and when the animal lashes out, the animal gets killed. How fair is this? I think it's sickening. It's a wild animal, how do they expect it to act? I'm sorry I'm just venting...

I wasn't trying to argue with you specifically. Just providing my opinion on this matter. I also don't want to get into it with a friend, but I don't mind debating :)

Hello again:

Let's debate this: Utah has introduced legislation to have a state gun, just like a state flower or state tree. Is that a good thing?

excon

Oh, I didn't think you were arguing with me :) There has been an on going debate, and I just didn't want to have any hard feelings with a member here. Debate away! I was more specifically talking about the killing to kill issue.

Hello again:

Let's debate this: Utah has introduced legislation to have a state gun, just like a state flower or state tree. Is that a good thing?

excon


Sure why not, Utah is known for their weirdness :p

I will answer with a question?

"Is it a bad thing?"

The society is so eager to pronounce something as good or bad without asking if it's bad or good at all.

Before asking if an idea is good. Ask if it is bad. What are the bad outcomes of having a State gun? Usually by answering the "is it a bad thing?", you usually get your answer for "is it a good thing?"

I don't think it's a bad thing, but then I grew up with and around guns. Maybe it will confirm to all us Canadians that you Americans really are gun lovers ;)

Edit: What I really wanted to say was gun yielding yahoo's, but I decided against it.

"Is it a bad thing?"Hello again:

I think it's a bad thing for government to glorify guns.

excon

I don't think it does. Budapest has a national dog, but I don't see it as glorifying dogs.

I don't think it does. Budapest has a national dog, but I don't see it as glorifying dogs.Hello again, Bella:

Of course, THAT is the question... If the state DIDN'T want to glorify guns, why mention them at all?

excon

Hmmm... I guess I would think it's just being patriotic, you know, the amendments or what ever, being able to bare arms... etc...

I think people need to be more responsible for their own actions, be responsible...

So if a state or Province mentions something they are automatically glorifying it? Why does Utah say they want a state gun? What does it represent to them?

Go Utah!. tell the paranoid gun grabbers where to stuff their opinions.

Hmmm.... I guess I would think it's just being patriotic, you know, the amendments or what ever, being able to bare arms... etc...

So if a state or Province mentions something they are automatically glorifying it? Why does Utah say they want a state gun? What does it represent to them?Hello again, Bella:

Well, it's MORE than just mentioning it. They're going to enshrine it as their state gun. If they just want to be patriotic, and pay homage to an amendment, why don't they make a state newspaper?

The Browning automatic in question, is made in Utah. They say, and I don't doubt it, that it is responsible for saving MORE lives during WWII, than any other gun. That's wonderful. I'm still not sure if that qualifies for the making of an entirely new category of state honored items, like trees and flowers.

excon

Hey there Exy:

After explaining that it was made in Utah and saved more lives, I am more for it then before. That to me, would be something to be proud of. But you are talking to a military brat here...

After explaining that it was made in Utah and saved more lives, I am more for it then before. That to me, would be something to be proud of. But you are talking to a military brat here...Hello again, Bella:

And, you're talking a Vietnam vet, and gun lover. Plus, I LOVE history too, and I LOVE that Browning did his thing.

I'm just not sure that it's appropriate for a STATE to glorify a gun. I thought about that word "glorify" too, before using it... But, it's the right word.

Should New Mexico make the A-bomb its state A-bomb? It was invented there. It saved a bunch of American lives during WWII. It's STILL saving lives.

excon

Touché Exy. Touché.

Saved more lives... took more lives!

I think that the State should worry abut something more important as should the residence of the state.

I personally think glorifying this weapon will open a whole new can of worms! A can the state under-estimates.

Hello again:

Let's debate this: Utah has introduced legislation to have a state gun, just like a state flower or state tree. Is that a good thing?

excon

Personally speaking I would be against it. It only highlights it and elevates it to a point where it becomes focused on. Don't get me wrong it's a great gun and yes I own one. But I also believe that gun ownership is a sacred right honored in our constitution and that in owning a gun its as individual as anything else someone might own. Its not for everyone. And the ones someone may choose is not for the person next to them. Its is choice to make that your comfortable with.


And if you don't know or didn't know what ex was talking about like me, here is an article on it.

Utah lawmakers propose M1911 as official state gun - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110126/ap_on_re_us/us_utah_state_gun)

sure why not, utah is known for their weirdness :p

I don't think Utah is known for this 'weirdness', unless you have been reading something I haven't and that is unlikely because I read three nespapers a day, Toronto Star, New York Times and National Post (which is known for their wierdness). And several other magazines currently on the newstand which I subscribe too (not everyday but monthly when they come out).

And what the heck, everyone is focused on Egypt now and getting Americans and Canadians out of there. Talk about guns being involved, yes, lots of them. And, what is worse then the Cairo Museum being vandalized for gold. Curator says everything that has gone is gone forever. Guns are involved, yes, most definitely and this is not ended yet, possibly another war we all have to deal with.

Tick

Tick (oops too many ticks here !)

Tick, it was a joke... Hence the :p face.

I'm also working on the weirdness of Utah. I suspect the politicians in Utah have too much time on their hands.

And, yes, I think it glorifies guns to have a State gun.

On the other hand - would it cause anyone to run out and buy one? I don't think so.

And, yes, I have a carry permit and, yes, I would use a gun for personal protection - without a doubt.

I sad Utah is known for their weirdness only because of some of the laws they have, whether they practice them or not, some are just plain strange. It was a joke. Sorry guys. No more joking from me.

Dumb Laws in Utah. Crazy Utah Laws. We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws! (http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/utah)

Also I was a HUGE fan of SLC punk when I was a teenager. I specifically remember them commenting on the weirdness of Utah.

I am by no means trying to defend Utah lawmakers. I think they should all wear orange wigs and big floppy shoes to eliminate any doubt as to what they represent.

But I do have a great deal of respect for John Browning , a Utah, native ,who has contributed a vast list of firearm designs and inventions that are revolutionary and a great contribution to our military and country.

In their twisted little minds , the legislators here in Utah chose this as a way to honor Mr. Browning , which he richly deserves.
Could they have done so in a different and more appropriate manner? Of course if given much thought , but that is where they are considerably lacking in almost all their work.

He was a great man, it is a great gun , and we are governed by bonehead wanna-be bonehead cowboys in Utah.
I think they meant well and will leave it at that.

I sad Utah is known for their weirdness only because of some of the laws they have, whether they practice them or not, some are just plain strange. It was a joke. Sorry guys. No more joking from me.

SLC Punk rocks! I'm impressed Bella!

I live in Utah and have a great deal of my life. And I will tell anyone the same thing.
Utah is weird when it comes to laws and regulations. I live it and I know.

But having the beautiful and unique landscapes here, excellent hunting , fishing, camping, from a desert climate to high alpine all within half a days travel which includes some of the worlds best whitewater rafting , the BOnneville Salt Flats , and Canyonlands National Park... I can live with weird.

Oh I have seen pic's of Utah, looks absolutely gorgeous. Definitley a place I would LOVE to visit.

Thanks Martin :)

Was in Utah about two months ago. Didn't find the laws any more weird than any other State.

NY probably holds the record for weirdness - someone who ran for Governor a few months ago was the head of the (and I'm not making this up) Rent is Too Damn High party. No joke. He debated on TV. That was his ENTIRE party platform. The other candidates had to keep from laughing - and it showed.

I'm not sure ANY State can top that one!

Was in Utah about two months ago. Didn't find the laws any more weird than any other State.

NY probably holds the record for weirdness - someone who ran for Governor a few months ago was the head of the (and I'm not making this up) Rent is Too Damn High party. No joke. He debated on TV. That was his ENTIRE party platform. The other candidates had to keep from laughing - and it showed.

I'm not sure ANY State can top that one!

I saw that guy, had a white beard and stash. He was very funny, I enjoyed him he gave me a good laugh.

Was in Utah about two months ago. Didn't find the laws any more weird than any other State.

NY probably holds the record for weirdness - someone who ran for Governor a few months ago was the head of the (and I'm not making this up) Rent is Too Damn High party. No joke. He debated on TV. That was his ENTIRE party platform. The other candidates had to keep from laughing - and it showed.

I'm not sure ANY State can top that one!

The rent is too damn high party, I love it.

No state holds the title for weird. It's everywhere you look for it.

I saw that guy, had a white beard and stash. He was very funny, I enjoyed him he gave me a good laugh.


I figured he couldn't be worse than some of the Governors we've already had - and it DID appear he had put some thought into his party platform.

Too bad he lost (but he DID get some votes).

I'm not sure ANY State can top that one!

Im not sure if NY takes the top of the cake or not. Lets not forget California is world renown for its weirdness. Not just in the laws either. Did you see the candidate list for govenor when the old govenor was kicked out? The one that put Arnie in the head seat. It was insane.

Need I start talking about Illinois and especially Chicago here... please, I don't want to start.

Canada has some pretty strange laws too.

I still don't agree with this proposed "State Gun"! I think it will cause more issues. Am I taking anything away from Mr. Browning? Of course not, but if we honor every person who's done something good for this country we'd have state guns, state cars, state knives, state this, state that etc...

Having a state gun is no more stupid than Public schools teaching 8 year olds how to roll condoms on a banana with or without the parents permission when they can't even teach them the important subjects or to read to a suitible level.

Look it up... Montgomery County Schools in Maryland.

I just think there are far more important issues for people to worry about than IF they have a state gun or not. Like can Johhny or Suzie actually read and count.

I just think there are far more important issues for people to worry about than IF they have a state gun or not.Hello again, smoothy:

Sure there are.. That doesn't mean we should let this slip by. If it's a GOOD idea, then it IS. If it isn't, then it isn't... But, we shouldn't let sloppy legislation go by simply because there's MORE important things to focus on...

If the Utah legislature didn't focus on un-important issues, we wouldn't have to.

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Sure there are.. That doesn't mean we should let this slip by. If it's a GOOD idea, then it IS. If it isn't, then it isn't... But, we shouldn't let sloppy legislation go by simply because there's MORE important things to focus on...

If the Utah legislature didn't focus on un-important issues, we wouldn't have to.

excon

I agree. However, it's all about priorities. Sure they can debate this and contemplate the importance of a "State Gun", but at a level far under more important topics!

To be honest this isn't important AT ALL! This shouldn't be any sort of priority In my opinion.

There are a lot of banana shaped men in Maryland?

Hello again, smoothy:

Sure there are.. That doesn't mean we should let this slip by. If it's a GOOD idea, then it IS. If it isn't, then it isn't... But, we shouldn't let sloppy legislation go by simply because there's MORE important things to focus on...

If the Utah legislature didn't focus on un-important issues, we wouldn't have to.

excon

But is ANYONE in this discussion actually from Utah... because its only the business of Utah voters. If Washington State wanted to make the Purple peckered Emu their state bird... its only the business of Washington state residents.

To repeat,


I am by no means trying to defend Utah lawmakers. I think they should all wear orange wigs and big floppy shoes to eliminate any doubt as to what they represent.

But I do have a great deal of respect for John Browning , a Utah, native ,who has contributed a vast list of firearm designs and inventions that are revolutionary and a great contribution to our military and country.

In their twisted little minds , the legislators here in Utah chose this as a way to honor Mr. Browning , which he richly deserves.
Could they have done so in a different and more appropriate manner? Of course if given much thought , but that is where they are considerably lacking in almost all their work.

He was a great man, it is a great gun , and we are governed by bonehead wanna-be bonehead cowboys in Utah.
I think they meant well and will leave it at that.

To repeat,

Ok... didn't realize you were from there... so we have one.

Ok....didn't realize you were from there...so we have one.

Yes you do. And I am not a fan of the lawmakers here.

This gun thing is actually has some merit in honoring Mr. Browning. Most of what they attempt is to force their beliefs on us all by making them laws.

The list of ridiculous proposals is very very long every session.
A state gun is better than a state cooking pot, which we have also, and state insect, reality seems to be beyond their grasp.
Important issues to someone... I guess

We are saved by the Constitution fortunately , and the Supreme Court or we would be lost in the fervor.

Ok....didn't realize you were from there...so we have one.Hello again, smoothy:

I schtupped a girl from there once. Does that count?

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I schtupped a girl from there once. Does that count?

excon

What does that mean... schtupped.. Can you call a spade a spade?

Tick

Hi tick:

To schtupp. (http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/schtupp)

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I schtupped a girl from there once. Does that count? exconNope, not quite. Fond or bad memories not withstanding.. I new what schtupp was even before you had to explain it to tick... yiddish term.


I was hoping someone got a laugh out of my state bird suggestion... :( Could you see that one going to the floor for a vote... :D

If memory serves me right I did too... Think she was originally from Salt Lake city before moving to MD where I knew her. And trust me there were some really good memories and some really bad ones with her. Only Mormon girl I ever went out with.

LDS girls can be a lot of fun.

Would this make it as the AMHD official site gun ?



http://i52.tinypic.com/iymtet.jpg

Would this make it as the AMHD official site gun ?



http://i52.tinypic.com/iymtet.jpg

Sound good to me... If you nominate it... I'll second it.

Ohh that's a nice looking gun. Very sleek.

Ohh that's a nice looking gun. very sleek.

That is a 1911 that has been talked about recently. The one in the picture is a tarus PT1911 DT

(DT) Dual Tone.

LDS girls can be a lot of fun.

Know how to get them into a motel room?



Grease their hips and throw in a twinkie.


Sorry. That was uncouth and sexist. But funny in my uncouth opinion.

Know how to get them into a motel room?



Grease their hips and throw in a twinkie.


Sorry. That was uncouth and sexist. But funny in my uncouth opinion.

Yep.

What is a LDS girl?:confused:

What is a LDS girl?:confused:

More commonly called Morman. LDS is an acronym for the shortened version of the entire name of the church.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Ahhhh thank you! Lol so why would she want a twinkie?

ahhhh thank you! lol so why would she want a twinkie??

Why would you grease her hips?

You say you're knot, but you may be just a touch. :D
I am too when not shaving my head.

LOL! Ok I get it... maybe... cause she is fat? LOL. Yea I am just a touch. I can't help it though, I was born this way.


Remember I said I was a fan if Hunter S. Thompson and SLC Punk... ;) ;) So that could count for the blondness.

LOL!! Ok I get it... maybe... cause she is fat? LOL. Yea I am just a touch. I can't help it though, I was born this way.

Me too. It's only hair color and indicates nothing!

Heck the mormon girl I went out with was built like a... I know what you're thinking...



Playboy model... I later found out she had three kids... a while after that I found out there was a fourth she never told me about...

I dumped her later after she pulled a week long Mz Jeckle and Mz Hyde routine. I just wasn't going to deal with that crap.

Remember I said I was a fan if Hunter S. Thompson and SLC Punk... So that could count for the blondness.

quoting Aurora_Bell

Hunter S Thompson is one of my all time favorites.
Good choice

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