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graduate2life
Feb 25, 2010, 02:27 PM
Hello everybody :).. I am here for some advice and brainstorming regarding marital compatibility between people who are 10-15 years apart in age.

A little background on me. I am an educated female in early 30's. I am hoping to find someone and get married in due course of time. I have had a stable relationship for several years in my late 20's, but it did not work out. I have been single since my break up from that relationship, to overcome it and work on my professional life, and have been maintaining emotional independence to recover from the previous break. I feel I am ready to move in my life now, and find a stable relationship and a future husband.

My problem is unlike when I was in my 20's, all my friends and age mates are pretty much in stable relationships & marriages. I know I need to work on meeting new people and perhaps a change of place would do good in this respect. At the same time even when I do find someone single at my age, I tend to feel incompatible with people my age. I am beginning to observe that the women who marry in 30's have to look at prospective matches beyond their immediate circle/age.

My question is what are the challenges I should expect, for example, if I am dating someone 40-45 years or 10+ years senior. If you have any experience please share. Also, men are welcome to give their opinion on what they find pleasing or annoying when they date a woman 10-15 years younger to them.

It's a simple query, but personal experiences would add a great deal to my outlook. I will greatly appreciate any thoughts, and your time in reading and answering this.

JudyKayTee
Feb 25, 2010, 03:41 PM
I've posted this before - when I was in my 20's I was madly in love with someone who was many years my senior. His children were older than me. We had a great relationship in all areas BUT he had already had children, had lived in a house with a picket fence, had owned a dog. He wanted to live in the City, in an apartment or condo, not have children, travel.

I wanted kids, a picket fence, a dog. I wanted a family - desperately.

We couldn't resolve that one factor in our relationship and I moved on. It was a very sad breakup but neither one of us would budge and I didn't think either one of us would change. He went on to marry and divorce and did not have children.

I went on to marry, divorce, remarry and be widowed - and I never had children of my own! I did marry a man with children so I am a stepmother and I am engaged to a man with children - and grandchildren!

Life is strange.

I don't know that our relationship was good because he was older or simply because we were compatible but he was a good teacher (for lack of a better word) in many aspects of my life and I look back on those years very fondly.

He enjoyed my youth and I enjoyed his experience - and we were a good match.

graduate2life
Feb 25, 2010, 06:36 PM
Thanks to Judy for sharing her experience. Indeed, life is strange. We just cannot plan it as thoroughly as we wish. Wish you the best, Judy.

I read a few posts displayed on the right side of this column and gleaned the following categories of problems may arise:

1. Discrepancy in decisions regarding kids and other choices , as Judy mentioned
2. Social scene of spouses, how and where they want to be everyday
3. Energy levels (as someone said, not stamina, but energy)
4. Retirement / post retirement choices / one is working other wants to travel etc.
5. Levels of understanding about themselves and what they want, and life in general
6. Acceptance of family & friends, and how do you integrate with them as a couple
7. In addition, someone pointed out, there could be a problem with the guy (his maturity) if he is seeking a woman much under his age. So what are the reasons of a potential partners to be matched with someone of a widely different age should be reasoned as well.

This is pretty much all I have gathered to take note of. And indeed valuable information.

Any more opinions , thoughts, experiences... stories..

graduate2life
Feb 25, 2010, 06:51 PM
I forgot to mention that a post opined that relationship where age difference is wide (even slightly wide) results in mimicking a parent-child relationship, which is not very attractive.

Is there a way not to let any relationship turn out that way, especially when the age difference is wide? It is only natural that the person with more experience will gather more control from the start (?) and eventually the relationship dynamics gravitate towards 'parenting' the younger/less-aware person.

Fr_Chuck
Feb 25, 2010, 09:41 PM
Age difference, social or economic difference, religion difference, are just that issues that have to be addressed. In any relationship, communication is the key, and defining each others role in the relationship.

JudyKayTee
Feb 26, 2010, 07:21 AM
I forgot to mention that a post opined that relationship where age difference is wide (even slightly wide) results in mimicking a parent-child relationship, which is not very attractive.

Is there a way not to let any relationship turn out that way, especially when the age difference is wide? It is only natural that the person with more experience will gather more control from the start (?) and eventually the relationship dynamics gravitate towards 'parenting' the younger/less-aware person.


I think like all issues in a marriage you have to be on the alert that this does NOT happen -

I did find that my friends found his friends "old and boring" and so I saw very little of my friends and that was somewhat painful.

Also friends my age could not financially keep up with my much older boyfriend. This often became an issue if dinner were involved - his budget and theirs were very different.

Devorameira
Feb 26, 2010, 03:49 PM
Age itself isn't that great of a factor in compatibility. A strong connection is what keeps relationships going. With an age difference, you should make sure the connection is there early on and that both people feel it. A solely physical connection won't cut it. Make sure you each can understand where the other is in life. You may be wanting children while an older man may have already been married and had kids, so he may feel like he’s already “been there and done that”.

Finding love is hard enough without playing the numbers game. I think it’s fine to date an older man, We know relationships with age differences do work - look at Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones, as well as Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes! It appears that their relationship are working out perfectly. :)

Alty
Feb 26, 2010, 04:06 PM
This is a very interesting question.

I don't have any experience dating a man much older then me, I married at 24 to a man 2 months older then me.

I know there are quite a few men on this site who are married to women up to 20 years younger then them and their marriages are wonderful.

I think it really depends on the people involved, your wants, needs, future desires. If you are both in the same frame of mind, want the same things, then I think it can work.

Like Chuck said, communication is key in any relationship, no matter how old you are.

I hope you find what you're looking for. :)

Stringer
Feb 26, 2010, 06:01 PM
This is a very interesting question.

I don't have any experience dating a man much older then me, I married at 24 to a man 2 months older then me.

I know there are quite a few men on this site who are married to women up to 20 years younger then them and their marriages are wonderful.

I think it really depends on the people involved, your wants, needs, future desires. If you are both in the same frame of mind, want the same things, then I think it can work.

Like Chuck said, communication is key in any relationship, no matter how old you are.

I hope you find what you're looking for. :)

Had to spread that reppy thingy Alty. If you were referring to me and my lovely wife as being in a wonderful relationship, I thank you, it is true.

Stringer
Feb 26, 2010, 06:17 PM
All the advice given in the other posts are true Graduate. My experience has been wonderful, simply the best and there are exactly 20 years difference. There is nothing more that I want and my wife and I have had many deep talks and I believe she feels the same too.

I believe that your age means a lot, if a younger person is young say 20-22 and the is a difference of 10, 15 or even 20 years maturity has a strong bearing. Also visa versa, if the older person is too set in their ways that is also a big negative.

I was divorced for 18 years before I met my wife and I have two kids with four grandkids.

I was dating a lot of women of different ages and thought that I would never find someone to really love. My wife was 33 when we married , she has an 'old experienced soul' and I have trouble keeping 'that kid' in me in check.

We have a successful loving relationship and financial life and our one sorrow is that we couldn't have a child together (spent over $50,000.00 finding that out). That part was rough on both of us. But we survived it and we are doing great, we are very, very happy. I thought that I knew what love was but I didn't until I fell in love with her.

She wanted to go back to college, she is, she wanted to bring her sister her from Europe, she did. And I have everything that I could desire in our relationship for the last 11 years and it just gets better.

This is our experience, both have to love each other and make adjustments and the experience can be very good.

Stringer

dynocompe
Feb 26, 2010, 06:40 PM
If this older man is rich, people will judge you as a gold digger and just waiting for him to croak

Stringer
Feb 26, 2010, 06:44 PM
If this older man is rich, people will judge you as a gold digger and jsut waiting for him to croak

Not in all cases Dyno, in fact I have never had a hostess ask to seat me and my daughter, not once... :) I know the stereotypes that Hollywood projects to everyone but it is all in who you are and how you 'carry' yourselves. She never makes me feel old, then again I have been told that I pass for 10 years younger anyway... ;)

Stringer
Feb 26, 2010, 09:17 PM
Thanks Alty, I have been in a love daze for 11 years. I light up when I see her, I can't imagine my life without her.

graduate2life
Feb 28, 2010, 06:34 PM
Age difference, social or economic difference, religion difference, are just that issues that have to be addressed. In any relationship, communication is the key, and defining each others role in the relationship.

Communication indeed is the key, but I fear would be so hard to achieve if you are coming from 2 different places. Therefore, I am just attempting to understand your experiences beforehand. Thanks for your response, it helps!

graduate2life
Feb 28, 2010, 06:35 PM
I hope you find what you're looking for. :)

Thanks for your good wishes! :)

graduate2life
Feb 28, 2010, 06:43 PM
My experience has been wonderful, simply the best and there are exactly 20 years difference.

It is wonderful to hear of your good experience! Plus you give me man's perspective :)


I was divorced for 18 years before I met my wife and I have two kids with four grandkids. I was dating a lot of women of different ages and thought that I would never find someone to really love. My wife was 33 when we married , she has an 'old experienced soul' and I have trouble keeping 'that kid' in me in check.

Indeed, your wife must be so special to you if it took you so long to want to remarry. Also, it seems you have a deeper appreciation to each other's personalities and what you bring to each other's lives. Perfect!
After all every relationship in the end has to achieve that balance, and you have found it!

Thank you for responding and sharing your positive experience.All the best.

graduate2life
Feb 28, 2010, 06:47 PM
If this older man is rich, people will judge you as a gold digger and jsut waiting for him to croak

I am not a gold digger, I can assure you :). I like your no nonsense response. ;)

graduate2life
Feb 28, 2010, 07:03 PM
Stringer: It has been eleven years since you have married. Clearly you have a happy relationship which has love, appreciation and care for each other. If you can remember, what was it in the beginning that attracted you to your spouse? You said you had dated women in those 18 years, but you did not find love till you met your wonderful wife. I would really like to know what make her stand out in the beginning. I hope you can recollect!

Stringer
Feb 28, 2010, 08:46 PM
Wow Graduate that is a tough one. But I'll give it a shot.

I think originally as in most instances it is a delightful physical attraction and each person has their own list of features that attracts them to someone. With my wife the very first thing was those large dark sexy eyes, they speak volumes. And she is a master at using them. This along with her natural beauty, personality, caring attitude, general friendliness, positive nature, etc. She also cares about herself, she works out almost daily and is thirsty for knowledge. And in most issues we are kindred.

At first we got along great but after a few months I wanted more and we talked about it. She said that she cared a lot and enjoyed being with me but she wasn't sure yet. I had been in many 'relationships' since my divorce some for several years. And at some point in all these I asked myself can I spend the rest of my life with this person... and the answer was always no. When she said that she needed time that became a challenge to me. I needed to prove to her that I was serious as h3ll about her.

This progressively took me four years before we married. We moved in together after six months and it was wonderful, three and a half years later she said 'yes.'

Literally, this was the best choice that the two of us ever made. I really am the luckiest guy around.

She is supportive in all that I do and every day we tell and show each other that we love each other.

Every time we separate for the day or before we go to sleep we tell each other.

I know, this sounds like some romance novel... well I guess it kind of is... we are happy.

A long time ago a mentor asked me what I wanted in life. And after some thought I said I just want to be truly happy... I am, we are.

Stringer

JudyKayTee
Mar 1, 2010, 08:05 AM
If this older man is rich, people will judge you as a gold digger and jsut waiting for him to croak


I do not believe this is true, not at all. I find the "waiting for him to croak" language to be offensive.

My husband was older, very gray haired, distinguished - on one occasion a waitress asked him (I had gone to the ladies room) if "his daughter" (me) would like another cup of coffee. We laughed about it.

I am not aware of anyone judging me as a gold digger nor was I waiting for him to "croak," to use your words.

This is offensive to anyone married to someone who is older. I WILL add that if you marry a much older person you have to be prepared to outlive that person, more prepared than if you are the same age.

On a personal note - a person claiming to be financial advisor says "rich" and not "wealthy"? Got to wonder about that.

jmjoseph
Mar 1, 2010, 09:03 AM
If this older man is rich, people will judge you as a gold digger and jsut waiting for him to croak

We are talking about a man who she has yet to meet. He would be in his fifties, maybe younger, and have unknown financial security. And an unknown health history.

By the way who are these "people" doing the judging? And who cares what these "people" think anyway?

This would be the LAST thing to tell her to worry about.

graduate2life, you go find happiness. The most important thing about looking for a mate is make sure that person, whomever he may be, treats you with love and respect.

I wish you the best.

Stringer
Mar 1, 2010, 12:54 PM
Agreed, love, trust and respect are absolutely needed as in any relationship. To tell you the truth above all that there is a part of me that is proud that this beautiful, wonderful, intelligent woman loves me.

Stringer

talaniman
Mar 3, 2010, 10:35 AM
I think when two people have a willingness to be honest with each other, and deal with anything that comes up as one, there is always a good chance that it will last a long time.

The problem most relationships face is they jump in, and try to have something just to have it, and when it starts to get to hard they bail.

I say never be in a hurry you overlook something that requires your attention, and never be so distracted you forget what your supposed to be doing. (my wife is good at keeping me focused).

The real test I think, is how you handle your issues, and work to resolve them together, for the benefit of you both.

It takes time, patience and an open mind, and a lot of good fortune.

If its real, the obstacles are not going to stop you from being happy. Nor will doing whatever it takes scare you.

JudyKayTee
Mar 3, 2010, 10:48 AM
If we're talking about what makes for a good relationship I believe in total honesty - no games, no "playing" each other, no sulking, no withholding sex. I'm about as straight forward as a person gets.

My husband to be is my best friend (maybe everyone says that but nobody means it) and I have the ability to discuss anything with him, tell him anything. We don't always agree, of course, but we both speak the truth.

This, of course, does not include hurting the other person in the guise of being frank and/or honest.

Stringer
Mar 3, 2010, 11:19 AM
I think when two people have a willingness to be honest with each other, and deal with anything that comes up as one, there is always a good chance that it will last a long time.

The problem most relationships face is they jump in, and try to have something just to have it, and when it starts to get to hard they bail.

I say never be in a hurry you overlook something that requires your attention, and never be so distracted you forget what your supposed to be doing. (my wife is good at keeping me focused).

The real test I think, is how you handle your issues, and work to resolve them together, for the benefit of you both.

It takes time, patience and an open mind, and a lot of good fortune.

If its real, the obstacles are not going to stop you from being happy. Nor will doing whatever it takes scare you.

To the point as usual Tal. (Couldn't give a 'greenie.')

graduate2life
Mar 5, 2010, 10:13 PM
I'll give it a shot.
....
Stringer

This was great! You were honest and clear. And I am so glad you took the time to put it down. I will use it in my life :)

Stringer
Mar 5, 2010, 10:27 PM
This was great! You were honest and clear. And I am so glad you took the time to put it down. I will use it in my life :)

Thank you.

And I say if all is right, go for it. :)

graduate2life
Mar 5, 2010, 10:28 PM
I think when two people have a willingness to be honest with each other, and deal with anything that comes up as one, there is always a good chance that it will last a long time.

Thank you for positivity :) . Dealing with everything 'as one' is so hard to achieve when everyone is looking out for themselves, many a times it is so difficult to align interests. That is why people need to be 'in love'.


The problem most relationships face is they jump in, and try to have something just to have it, and when it starts to get to hard they bail.

.. and if the magic or the feeling of love is missing, because you jumped in for the heck of it.. You will not be able to face road bumps as a team.. YOU ARE SO RIGHT HERE!



I say never be in a hurry you overlook something that requires your attention, and never be so distracted you forget what your supposed to be doing. (my wife is good at keeping me focused).

True. Not easy to remember though when we are in it. I had a habit of overlooking problems that needed to be sorted out, I learnt a lesson!


The real test I think, is how you handle your issues, and work to resolve them together, for the benefit of you both.

Yes. Communication fails when it is most needed.


It takes time, patience and an open mind, and a lot of good fortune.

Good fortune.. Yes! Probably, also some experience.


If its real, the obstacles are not going to stop you from being happy. Nor will doing whatever it takes scare you.

I like your positive and comprehensive answer, TAL.. (even though I interpreted it as above according to my understanding).

graduate2life
Mar 5, 2010, 10:35 PM
Thank you for the encouragement.. I found this discussion board great to share ideas and experiences. I would like to say thank you to everyone here, you were so kind to answer me.

Special thanks to STRINGER for adding his lovely experience to this thread :)

mwhalen711
Oct 8, 2010, 09:56 AM
Stringer,

It is nice to hear about a successful relationship with a twenty year age difference. My partner and I are madly in love with each other and have been dating for several months but have known each other for about two years. I am 25 and he is 20 years older than me (no kids, never married; his fiancé died tragically when he was younger and he resolved to never get married). I have concluded that our ages seem far apart on paper, or when you consider the number of years in between, but we are so, so happy together and so in love.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about what my friends and family will think about our relationship. It just seems illogical to me to split solely because of our age difference. I have been in other long term relationships where marriage was discussed, but after spending a month with my current partner, I couldn't imagine being with anyone else.

We would like to get married and have children but (1) I am currently enrolled in a demanding pre-professional academic program with about two and half more years to go, and (2) I worry about how our children would feel about having an older father. My partner does not seem "old" to me - we love to do the same things, and although I am pretty athletic he has no trouble "keeping up with me." His profession involves physical labor so he is in great shape and looks at least 7 years younger than he is.

I don't know what the future will bring, but we agree that what we have is incredibly special and we are enjoying every minute.

Stringer
Oct 9, 2010, 12:20 AM
Stringer,

It is nice to hear about a successful relationship with a twenty year age difference. My partner and I are madly in love with each other and have been dating for several months but have known each other for about two years. I am 25 and he is 20 years older than me (no kids, never married; his fiance died tragically when he was younger and he resolved to never get married). I have concluded that our ages seem far apart on paper, or when you consider the number of years in between, but we are so, so happy together and so in love.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about what my friends and family will think about our relationship. It just seems illogical to me to split solely because of our age difference. I have been in other long term relationships where marriage was discussed, but after spending a month with my current partner, I couldn't imagine being with anyone else.

We would like to get married and have children but (1) I am currently enrolled in a demanding pre-professional academic program with about two and half more years to go, and (2) I worry about how our children would feel about having an older father. My partner does not seem "old" to me - we love to do the same things, and although I am pretty athletic he has no trouble "keeping up with me." His profession involves physical labor so he is in great shape and looks at least 7 years younger than he is.

I don't know what the future will bring, but we agree that what we have is incredibly special and we are enjoying every minute.

There are some obstacles to overcome naturally. But what you describe is exactly what we have felt and still do hon. To me, finding true love is not easy and when it comes along you have to go for it with every part of yourself. We have not held back in any way.

We tried to have a child (spent a lot of money also) and to our deep sorrow were not able to do so. It was traumatic but we survived it.

From my personal perspective age difference has an impact for sure and adjustments and reality has to be realized. With a complete understanding of this and what those differences are love will survive and flourish. It certainly has for us.

Sit down and talk, respond honestly to the potential situations/problems. Adjustments have to be made and I wouldn't even think about what 'others' may think, that really has no bearing on your life. What matters is you two and you lives together.

Good luck to you and him.

Stringer