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Kitkat22
Mar 30, 2010, 09:02 AM
The change is most definately for you-it doesnt matter whether or not your ex is bothered.

Tell your pals you don't want to hear anything about her. If you don't you will be right at square one again! Keep being strong and NC. Keep going to your meetings! BE GOOD TO YOURSELF!:)

confused580
Apr 4, 2010, 05:31 AM
I know this is pointless to ask, but why would an EX unblock you from Facebook all of a sudden?

talaniman
Apr 4, 2010, 06:09 AM
Because she knows you're monitoring her, and wants to draw you in. Females have many ways to confuse, piqué curiosity, and charm you into false hope.

Why does a Venus fly Trap, open its flower?

confused580
Apr 4, 2010, 07:57 AM
Because she knows you're monitoring her, and wants to draw you in. Females have many ways to confuse, pique curiosity, and charm you into false hope.

Why does a Venus fly Trap, open its flower?



You know I thought that, but I'm not monitoring her, I changed my phone number to cut her off... The only way I realized she unblocked me was through her tagging a picture of her and one of our mutual friends

myagony1234
Apr 4, 2010, 08:12 AM
You know I thought that, but im not monitoring her, I changed my phone number to cut her off...The only way I realized she unblocked me was thru her tagging a picture of her and one of our mutual friends

OK. You made a very good move for yourself.
Then why does it matter if she block/unblock you on face book? Just ignore it and focus on your own happiness. It is useless to overly analyzing the dead & gone relationship.

confused580
Apr 4, 2010, 08:16 AM
OK. You made a very good move for yourself.
Then why does it matter if she block/unblock you on face book? Just ignore it and focus on your own happiness. It is useless to overly analyzing the dead & gone relationship.



I know it doesn't matter, I was just asking what your opinion might be... I though about how pointless it was before I asked the question, I was just curious

myagony1234
Apr 4, 2010, 08:28 AM
Are you still wonder why she did it?
Nobody knows why she did it except her.
In fact, she will not even know why she did it if she was drunk and had blackout.
I am amazed you are keep puzzling over alcoholic & cheating person who does not know what she is doing. I am not try to be rude, but is it really worth it?
Just let it go, and go out an enjoy good weather and your life please. You deserve way much better person. Cheers! :)

Kitkat22
Apr 4, 2010, 05:06 PM
Are you still wonder why she did it?
Nobody knows why she did it except her.
In fact, she will not even know why she did it if she was drunk and had blackout.
I am amazed you are keep puzzling over alcoholic & cheating person who does not know what she is doing. I am not try to be rude, but is it really worth it?
Just let it go, and go out an enjoy good weather and your life please. You deserve way much better person. Cheers! :)




I have a feeling you are checking up on her. If I'm wrong... Sorry.
What is it about this woman that keeps you clinging to hope? Who in the world would want to be with someone who is to the say the least "troubled"? Do you two have kids together? I might have asked you this before, but I don't think you told me.

Do you have children from another relationship? I'm curious. If your friends keep telling you about her and you keep checking on her Face book. I think it's just a matter of time until you get suckered right back in. I believe that's what you're hoping for

You have made some good steps toward getting your life back together, but yet you still allow what she is doing to affect you. Not Good!

confused580
Apr 5, 2010, 02:44 PM
I have a feeling you are checking up on her. If I'm wrong...Sorry.
What is it about this woman that keeps you clinging to hope? Who in the world would want to be with someone who is to the say the least "troubled"? Do you two have kids together? I might have asked you this before, but I don't think you told me.

Do you have children from another relationship? I'm curious. If your friends keep telling you about her and you keep checking on her Face book., I think it's just a matter of time until you get suckered right back in. I believe that's what you're hoping for

You have made some good steps toward getting your life back together, but yet you still allow what she is doing to affect you. Not Good!




No I don't have children. I wasn't checking up on her, I saw her all of a sudden on a friends wall on Facebook. Interesting she had me blocked all while we were dating, and now she's unblocked me.

I changed my phone number, and I was just wondering if that had anything to do with it. I know I shouldn't care, I was curious

CarrotTalker
Apr 5, 2010, 03:20 PM
No i dont have children. I wasnt checking up on her, I saw her all of a sudden on a friends wall on facebook. Interesting she had me blocked all while we were dating, and now she's unblocked me.

I changed my phone number, and I was just wondering if that had anything to do with it. I know I shouldnt care, I was curious

No one knows. Likely a coincidence or a mind game on her part. Ignore it.

harriejansen
Apr 5, 2010, 03:45 PM
The blocking feature on Facebook has made me wonder also. When I first started dating my phone number was only 4 digits, no email, no cellphones, no sms, no Facebook... ahh good old times...

vanheart
Apr 5, 2010, 06:28 PM
Yup, stop checking.
Then you won't have those unnecessary thoughts.

Spend your time somewhere else.

confused580
Apr 5, 2010, 06:39 PM
Yup, stop checking.
Then you wont have those unnecessary thoughts.

Spend your time somewhere else.



Yeah I know. One of my friends asked me out to listen to music tonight, and I just am in my depressed mode. The weekend I had a blast. Went out with someone, and went to the movies, etc... I had really high moments where I laughed a lot, had a blast, etc... Then I went to a LOW this morning, depressed about this break-up, etc... Because of this I turned down my friends invite. I don't like to spoil someone else's fun, and getting out the house is not going to bring me out this depressed mode.

We broke up February 24, had a fling with her on March 15, I changed my phone number last week. I need to find a job because I'm going to drive myself crazy... I think I just have too much time on my hands, and these dreams of my ex just won't stop

vanheart
Apr 5, 2010, 06:44 PM
Dude, I know.

I went through the same. Its ups & downs for a bit.

But, keep in the forefront of your mind the high moments and try to recreate those feelings any way you can.

My worst, yet sometimes best times were when I was alone. Gave me lots to think about. I worked hard during those days & months to repair.

vanheart
Apr 5, 2010, 07:26 PM
What really helped me was to study my thread. Read it over and over.
And worked off that, to expand and get rid of those painful feelings asap.

Asap has been a process. With stages. Took almost a year for me. From a 5 year breakup. So just be patient.

Read mine sometime if you have time. Its long. Im embarrassed sometimes how long, but that's what it took.

The advice here has changed me. In so many ways. That's why Im still here.

The people here rock.

confused580
Apr 5, 2010, 07:32 PM
I want to go out tonight with my friend, but I already know that its not going to help... I went to the movies on Saturday and my thoughts were elsewhere, not on the movie

vanheart
Apr 5, 2010, 07:38 PM
"but i already know that its not going to help"

Listen to what you just said.

That's the opposite of what you need to think.

My thoughts were all over the place, but I took every invite, opportunity & excuse to have fun.

Like I say, it a process all directed by you.
Help what? The sooner the realization sets in & dwelling stops, the sooner you can see other nice opportunities.

confused580
Apr 6, 2010, 11:27 AM
Thank you for all your advice and thoughts. Its been A month and 7 days since the break up. During the first month, I've been fine... laughing, hanging with friends A lot, and normal activities.

For some reason this week, I've been hit HARD and although my friends still want to hang out, etc, I've just been in a depressed mode. Sleeping until 3pm everyday, just so the day can go my faster. I'm rarely eating, I have no appetite. I don't know why all of a sudden this is hitting me, when I was having fun and not thinking about her weeks after the break up.

Its like I have no motivation to do anything, even when I try, I sit right back down. I have someone who's VERY interested in me right now, they invite me everywhere, but its just I'm not ready to go there. I went to the movies with this person Saturday, but my mind was just occupied on this Ex. I really hate this

vanheart
Apr 6, 2010, 11:28 AM
Try harder.

This is not the end of the world here.

Only the beginning.

confused580
Apr 6, 2010, 12:33 PM
Try harder I will

talaniman
Apr 6, 2010, 12:44 PM
Its not unusual for recovery drunks to be depressed so how is the sobriety doing? Are you making your meetings? Got a sponsor? Bought a Big Book?

confused580
Apr 6, 2010, 12:51 PM
Its not unusual for recovery drunks to be depressed so how is the sobriety doing? Are you making your meetings? Got a sponsor? Bought a Big Book??

Thank you for your insight Talanman, yes I have a sponsor and yes I'm in AA going to meetings..


Its not alcohol that's causing that. I wasn't a daily alcohol drinker... Its the Ex- Relationship that got me depressed

talaniman
Apr 6, 2010, 01:02 PM
Have you gotten a Big Book, and started to read it? That's the first thing a sponsor tells you to do? And if you read that Big Book, its not how much, or how often you drink, it the problems that it causes in your life.

You may think its just the break up, but keep an open mind to factors that contribute to the mood you're in. Alcoholic thinking affects the mind and body in profound ways without drinking. Read the book.

If you want answers and solutions you must have FACTS.

amicon
Apr 6, 2010, 01:08 PM
That may be adding to your depression- not drinking every day,but using alcohol the way it seems you have,suggests you have used it to selfmedicate-when you felt the need.

My take is your depression has been there for quite some time.

Granted,your breakup has added to your feeling low,but the root causes need addressing.

confused580
Apr 7, 2010, 08:35 PM
I can't stand when people tell me how to run things, and their life is not in order. My friend had the nerve to tell me how this relationship should have gone, so this is what I sent him:

"please don't offer advice, if your Life course, Attitude, & Household is not in complete order. Remove that Rafter from your Own Eye before giving advice to anyone else. If you keep Sowing negativity/toxicity, then you will keep Reaping that. If you always have a hate-the-world-screw-you type mind, what positive advice... could you possibly offer? work your own issues first...I'd rather be pissed Off, than pissed On"

If you offer me advice, please lead by example... thank u to all in this thread that have offered great advice! Its still hard but I'm getting there

vanheart
Apr 7, 2010, 08:41 PM
Good one. You sound pissed too. And should be.

I don't spend much time on bad advice. But what it does is help me reinforce the cool people & things..

The stuff to stay away from.

You're doing great. Keep it up, 580.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 03:36 PM
Calm down, you made a mistake by texting her but oh well, it's human (I would probably kick her door and yell so it's not that bad...) Making plans keeps me alive, maybe it can work for you.

You knew you could eventually run into her or "him" when you went there. You screwed up. It's fine. It hurts, it's normal. Try to sleep and if you really can't, put everything on a piece of paper. Make a plan. Try to stick to it.

You are making a huge progress, don't stop yourself.




I feel bad folks, something I left out and I just realized the signifance of it when talking to a friend. My ex texted me and asked for to borrow some money, and my emotions just all came out and I called her "pathetic" because she texted me for money and did not call me. I know this was stupid, and I know this was verbal abuse... Although I've been called a bitc$ before by her, but I just feel down about that. Pathetic is just not something you call someone. I apologized like 10 minutes later, and she accepted it, but was still acting very cold. I don't blame her. I guess the reason I'm going through the ups and downs is because of closure...

Should I send an email? And what she it entail? I want to send an email but I don't want that email passed along to her friends, as if "see look, i told u, look at all his confessing of mistakes he made!"...

I want us to be friends sometime much later down the road. She is VERY sensitive, so I know when I said pathetic it hurt A LOT. I want to send an email for closure and definitely to apologize again for that statement, as that WAS verbal abuse... any suggestions??

vanheart
Apr 11, 2010, 03:40 PM
You already apologized.

When you break NC, this is what happens. More drama.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 03:43 PM
You already apologized.

When you break NC, this is what happens. More drama.


Yeah I know... I just don't want to be known as a verbal abuser... I just want closure I guess... thats why I was suggesting email...

Is closure really important?

vanheart
Apr 11, 2010, 03:52 PM
I think you already have received the closure.

An ex texting for cash. Yeah right.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 04:01 PM
I think you already have received the closure.

An ex texting for cash. Yeah right.

Well come to find out later that day, she was at work... but that was the reason she texted me instead of calling

vanheart
Apr 11, 2010, 04:08 PM
NC buddy.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 04:10 PM
NC buddy.


Ok

talaniman
Apr 11, 2010, 04:28 PM
Now you see the value of ignoring them. Using closure as an excuse for more apologies, and sucking up is in your words... pathetic.

Keep NC! And do better. Self pity is also... pathetic.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 04:52 PM
Maybe I'm just jealous someone else will come along and it'll be happyily ever after

vanheart
Apr 11, 2010, 04:58 PM
Someone else for you.

confused580
Apr 11, 2010, 05:06 PM
Someone else for you.

For my ex

Kitkat22
Apr 11, 2010, 05:14 PM
for my ex

Same old song and dance.. I don't know what else to tell you... If want to wallow wallow.. If you want to be a carpet or a puppet go ahead. Not going to matter to her, she doesn't care. Do you even realize how you sound? It's the same thing over and over and over. We give you advice over and over and over. You were doing good and now you're starting to sound weak and needy again. There is no more advice I can give you... :rolleyes:

talaniman
Apr 11, 2010, 08:40 PM
LOL, your jealous before its even happened? Now that is pathetic!

vanheart
Apr 11, 2010, 08:47 PM
29 pages & still confused.

confused580
Apr 12, 2010, 07:37 PM
Now you see the value of ignoring them. Using closure as an excuse for more apologies, and sucking up is in your words..................pathetic.

Keep NC! And do better. Self pity is also..............pathetic.



I know talaniman, and I know all 29 pages of advice. Only reason I was saying that was because I called the person pathetic because they texted me and didn't call me to ask to borrow money. That was all.

vanheart
Apr 12, 2010, 07:55 PM
Just stay NC.

That's all in the past.

Can't wait until confused580 becomes aware850.

confused580
Apr 12, 2010, 08:07 PM
Just stay NC.

Thats all in the past.

Can't wait until confused580 becomes aware850.

I know vanheart just don't want to be known as a verbal a

vanheart
Apr 12, 2010, 08:11 PM
Stay cool man. Don't worry.

Those are just stupid thoughts in your head. No need to dwell on 'em.

You're doing great.

confused580
Apr 12, 2010, 08:13 PM
Stay cool man. Dont worry.

Those are just stupid thoughts in your head. No need to dwell on 'em.

Youre doing great.

OK thank you

confused580
Apr 21, 2010, 03:46 PM
Thank you all for these almost 30 pages. I am moving on just fine. Its getting easier. I guess I was in denial, because early on when I had mentioned she drunk texted that person, and that he was coming into town, I had No proof that he was coming to see her. He was only coming to town for a funeral.

So the second guessing was only because I had no proof of anything that was to go on. But its definitely getting easier

vanheart
Apr 21, 2010, 03:48 PM
Good for you.

The more BS you remove, the clearer things get.

talaniman
Apr 21, 2010, 04:43 PM
He was only coming to town for a funeral.

How do you know that, and how is that important?

confused580
Apr 21, 2010, 07:22 PM
How do you know that, and how is that important?




Because I never had proof that they were going to meet. I spent the night every day at my exes, and when she said that she wanted a day by herself, I put an assumption together. Only because she didn't bring up the text message... I finally brought it up when she told me she wanted to be by herself that night. Maybe it was my insecurities because of that text message sent 2 days prior

vanheart
Apr 21, 2010, 07:27 PM
Like Tal said. How do you know that he was coming into town?

Whatever. No longer your biz.
Learn from this.

What not to do. (worry your mind.)

confused580
May 12, 2010, 08:20 PM
Wow,

I haven't posted here in a few weeks. I've been having fun, hanging with friends, etc... and now it hit hard again. The loss... I hate the fact that emotions take u on this sophisticated ride. It really sucks. This coming week it will be 2 months since the break

talaniman
May 13, 2010, 05:23 AM
They are your feelings so deal with them in a positive mature way.