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Lily05
Feb 15, 2010, 09:51 AM
To keep this brief. I've been seeing this guy for about 2 months now. And in the beginning he was the "initiator" to ask me out I'd say the first two times. After that I ended up being the "initiator" somehow. I think because at first I wasn't sure If I liked him and didn't really care and just was getting to know him. But now it's starting to bother me now that I'm starting to be interested I'd like to see how much he is interested as well, before I waste anymore time. He Does make contact at least through text messaging . So I FINALLY decided to leave the ball in his court yesterday. He text me a few times and the last thing I said back was "enjoy your day and let me know when you want to hang out again" and he didn't respond back. Was this a good idea?
I wish
Feb 15, 2010, 10:00 AM
Too many minds games for a relationship. How old are you?
Why can't you have a mature relationship with honest and open communication?
redhed35
Feb 15, 2010, 10:12 AM
I'm not a guy,but in my experience,if you say 'enjoy your day and let me know when you want to hang out' he is not talking to his friends anaylising the text.
He is doing exactly that,enjoying his day,thinking everything is fine between you and there is no problem.
Say what you mean,and mean what you say.
talaniman
Feb 15, 2010, 10:21 AM
I think not responding after one day is a bit too much to even worry about. After only two months, the thing I recommend is to keep doing what you were doing before you started dating this guy as its much to soon to be fixated on whether he responds right away. That would be just too much assuming, and presume.
Carry on with your life activities that you enjoy, and don't get so carried away that you are thinking the worst, or over thinking.
Be patient and see what happens. That's what dating is, having fun getting to know someone, and for that matter, you do know your free to date others, don't you?
This has not progressed to the point of exclusive or commitment so don't trip over the small stuff.
Talaniman Rule- Dating is for fun getting to know someone.
Talaniman Rule- When your single, enjoy dating them all, short, fat, skinny, or tall. 18- 80, blind, cripple, or crazy!
That's how single people have a great time, and don't trip over small stuff, like what ifs, or whys! It also keeps your life balanced, so you can keep things in there proper perspective.
Lily05
Feb 16, 2010, 09:24 AM
Interesting responses and smart ones as well. But none of them really answered my question lol!
Lily05
Feb 16, 2010, 09:38 AM
Interesting responses and smart ones as well. But none of them really answered my question lol!
Well, I guess In someways it did so thanks;)
amicon
Feb 16, 2010, 10:06 AM
Your question was whether sending the -let me know about hanging out-text was a good idea?
That's what you wanted to say,so I guess it was.
How and if he responds is up to him of course.
Romefalls19
Feb 16, 2010, 10:22 AM
No sending that text wasn't a good idea. Mind games are for the immature. If you want to hang out, simply put that. You want to find out something ask directly, don't beat around the bush. You want to hang out with him, send him this text word for word
"hey, I was wondering if you wanted to get together this Saturday for a bite to eat"
Lily05
Feb 16, 2010, 12:28 PM
I guess what my main concern was me being the one to ask lately. I guess I'm a little old fashioned and would like him to ask and pursue it but haven't given him the chance yet. But like Talaniman said,it's too soon to for all that and no I don't want to play games and seem imature of course. Or I wouldn't be on here asking what the right thing to do would be:). Thank you
Lily05
Feb 23, 2010, 08:58 AM
Okay so my situation has dramatically changed since my first initial question. So I've been seeing the same guy I was asking about for about 2 months. We've been, well I thought we've been pretty upfront and honest about what was going on between us. We both were on the understanding that were not really dating but seeing where things would go. There was an intense attraction. All we do is kiss. I asked him upfront if he was seeing other woman the way he was seeing me, a couple of dates ago. I asked in a non confronting easy going way. He said no. I only goes to dinner with the mother of his children every once in a while just to keep a good relationship for the children. So like I said it seemed we were very upfront about things. I saw him Saturday night briefly and acted strangely and said he would call later and never did. Well! I look on a social networking sight this morning and his relationship status has changed to in a relationship!! Wow! What should I do? Should I do no contact and have no closure? Or should I send him a short message stating how he was honest? I'm very hurt by this.
Sorry for my typing errors. I was typing quickly. Correction:He said He only goes to dinner every once in a while with the mother of his children. And when I saw him Saturday night he was acting strangely toward me. And should I state how He was NOT being honest?
mistyjane
Feb 23, 2010, 09:11 AM
If he's in a relationship you have to forget him.
Do not contact him.
talaniman
Feb 23, 2010, 09:40 AM
I saw him Saturday night briefly and he acted strangely and said he would call later and never did. Well! I look on a social networking sight this morning and his relationship status has changed to in a relationship!! Wow! What should I do? Should I do no contact and have no closure? Or should I send him a short message stating how he was honest? I'm very hurt by this.
I would sure ask him about it, just to be ornery, and be prepared to disappear from his life, very quickly. But you are not me, and don't forget that!!
This is much too much drama for the first few months, and I don't see it getting better, or even worth the time to continue.
Be really nice if you could accept this will never work, and walk away as closure is acceptance and not confirming obvious facts.
Lily05
Feb 23, 2010, 02:09 PM
Your right! Especially about closure having acceptance. And I've been thinking and no matter what I say to him it's already stating what he knows was wrong( like you stated "confirming obvious facts) I also don't know how he would respond. Maybe not at all or saying how I'm acting crazy or whatever... It's beyond me why people treat each other so cruelly sometimes. But oh well, you can't control people only yourself.so therefore I have decided that I think it's classier and I'll feel more dignified to just not say anything at all and try to let it go. A lesson learned.
talaniman
Feb 23, 2010, 05:35 PM
I think that's the classier approach myself, let them worry, and wonder, why you have disappeared from their realm of useless drama, and BS, and moved to a better place for you. Drives 'em nuts. (nuttier)
Always know it takes all kinds in this world, and don't be surprised when you see them.
Lily05
Feb 24, 2010, 05:42 PM
I apologize. But now I've been second guessing myself about saying something to him. I've just been reminiscing on our dates together and all the things he would say that seemed so genuine. Like how much he liked me, taking trips together,etc. Most of my friends are telling me not to say anything to him even if it's just one sentence. Saying how he was dishonest. But it appears that it has taken most of his friends and family by surprise by their reactions on his page it seems as if NO One knew. And he is responding to everyone. I'm wondering if he's just waiting for me to say something so he can say something back or if he's not worth saying anything too since it didn't seem I wasn't worth telling ahead of time. I'm just still torn on what to do! I'm telling myself to give it a week to everything has blown up and calms down to see how I feel about saying anything.
talaniman
Feb 24, 2010, 08:10 PM
Going back to his page is a very blatant breaking of NC, and no good will ever come of it. It will feed the self doubt, foster false hope, and it will add to your already growing misery and pain, which will leave you utterly confused.
Believe me, I know. We didn't have Facebook and all that modern jazz, but we did have well meaning mutual friends of our exes, who kept us updated on every move the ex made.
It was pretty miserable. Keep NC the right way.
amicon
Feb 24, 2010, 08:25 PM
Stop checking whatever pages he's on and tell people you're not interested in any updates.
Proper NC means: no contact whatsoever,no texting,emailing ,calling or checking out networking sites.
NC will stop your confusion and allow you to start moving on.
It is tough at first but stick to it,it works.
Take care.
racquel58
Feb 24, 2010, 08:55 PM
Oh, I do sympathize with you! It is so hard! You will have periods where you think straight and know what you're doing. Then you will have erratic times and question what you are doing (all the while thinking that you are thinking straight!).
Honestly, you just have to go cold turkey. No contact. Don't go to his page and if you are still 'friends' on fb then delete him as a friend. You can even block him so that if you do go to find him again you won't be able to see him =o). IF you unblock him you'll have to go through a series of steps and will not be allowed to block him again for another 48hours after you unblock him. It's not fool proof but those steps may make you rethink your steps!
also, what will you get from talking to him? You already know he was disrespectful by not communicating and also dishonest, as he actually lied when you asked him. He is seeing another woman and CHOSE her over you. Why should he get the opportunity from you to possibly lie more? And disrespect you more? I wouldn't even bother with this. Actually... I did have an experience similar... and I chased him (though I swore black and blue I wouldnt) and I ended up getting him... half anyway. He wouldn't give up the other woman as 'friends' for 6-9months. Compared me to her. Used her as ammunition to get back and me and try to control me. I got worse, allowed more mistreatment and things spiralled downwards.
If I had this insight now I would say relationships should not be this hard ESPECIALLY in the first few months! Forget him!
Lily05
Feb 25, 2010, 09:49 AM
Okay an hour after I posted this. He text me lastnight and said hi. I didn't know what to to... respond not respond... so I responded and said hi back. Then he asked How are you??
I said good. I just pretended as if I didn't know to see if he would tell me. He never did and just stopped texting me. He text me a few hours later giving me some lame excuse why he didn't text back. I never responded. Now I feel I should confront him that I know. Because I think he was feeling me out to see if I knew or not. I probably shouldn't have acted like I didn't know. IF he text me again should I ignore or let him know that I know then NC?
P.S. Sorry, I didn't read all your advice before he text me:(. I did feel more confused and it was probably worse that I pretended not to know.
I guess I just wanted to see or maybe give him one last opportunity to tell me. Not that it helps to wonder why and analyze but If he is in this new wonderful relationship now... why is he texting me still? And not tell me like everything is normal... I do feel more confused now
amicon
Feb 25, 2010, 10:08 AM
You're confused because you broke NC and got drawn back into the drama.
Make your mind up to stay NC.
Don't reply to his texts.
You don't have to tell him anything,a dignified silence speaks volumes.
neverme
Feb 25, 2010, 10:17 AM
Maybe a lil harsh
Well you can't change what you have done but you can act with a little bit of dignity now.
If he texts don't text back. End of. Just delete it before you even read it if possible.
You gave him a chance, a chance I wouldn't have given, to be upfront and he wasn't.
Why would you even want someone like this in your life?
As for the social networking site, de-friend him and leave it at that. You only went out for two months and if you pull the plaster off now and stop allowing contact you will be fine in no time. But if you decide to continue to obsess over this then it is only you that can be blamed for the unneeded broken heart that can only ever come from this.
You said you'd see where it was going, well this is where it's going. Time to move on.
Lily05
Feb 25, 2010, 10:36 AM
Your all very very right! If he texts or however he chooses to make contact again. I will ignore him. He'll know then I know. I'm going to start letting go and moving on today!
... any thoughts on why he did text me though and not say anything about it still?
amicon
Feb 25, 2010, 10:56 AM
Ignoring and letting go is a good choice-stay with it.
And it doesn't matter what his motives were-stop wondering about it,and stop worrying about it.
Hot water
Feb 25, 2010, 11:26 AM
I'd say just forget about him now while it's easy. The longer you try to hang on, the harder it will be to let go... even if you know they're lying.
Or maybe he's telling everyone that you're the girl he's in a relationship with lol
neverme
Feb 25, 2010, 08:09 PM
Hmm... what was he thinking?
Maybe it was that he could still have you on the side? Maybe it was that he really likes this girl but didn't want to be rude? Maybe he was thinking about the ham and cheese sandwich he'd have later?
Who cares????
He doesn't deserve your time and thought, move on.
Lily05
Feb 26, 2010, 09:17 AM
UMMMM... he called me lastnight and I ignored it. He left voicemail and he said he really needed to talk to me. So I called him back. He explained everything... he said a lot but basically He said that he was tired of receiving to many messages from strangers since it showed his status as single so that's why he changed it to in a relationship. And apologized for not telling me sooner. I told him I believed him which I do like 70% lol. I just don't know. I want to 100% believe him. But I've been lied to in the past and its hard to trust again. My best friend feels skeptic and says his explanation sounds like b.s. and to keep my eyes wide open.
neverme
Feb 26, 2010, 11:04 AM
Stinks of BS as far as I can tell, but since really it seems you don't want advice it is up to you...
But just a word for the wise, the reason we are treated the same way in a relationship is because that is what we accept. Everyone can find a loser to take advantage of them, it's harder to find someone that you can be yourself, warts and insecurities and all with.
talaniman
Feb 26, 2010, 12:00 PM
Sorry, but I wouldn't have believed it at all, simply because if it was true, he could have told you that rather easily when he had a chance. Don't you think?
amicon
Feb 26, 2010, 01:03 PM
Sorry I agree with the BS take!
Do cows have wings?
Eh,no.
I wish
Feb 26, 2010, 01:13 PM
I would say trust your own instincts. Plenty of fish in the sea, no need to hang around a suspicious one.
If you want to continue to give him chances to prove himself, then proceed with caution. But the need to be so cautious at such an early stage of a possible friendship doesn't bold well at all.
Lily05
Feb 26, 2010, 03:54 PM
Yeahhhh the general conses here on the board and with friends is he made up a story. At least he tried lol I think he player and the game is over.Like I said people's true colors and intentions show eventually. And at least this was sooner than later