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speechlesstx
Feb 5, 2010, 06:43 PM
Bush truly has a successor now, Obama is officially the new Dufus-in-chief. Last week he had another bowing incident (http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/02/01/obama-bows-to-mayor-of-tampa-florida/).

So far this week, he's told us that "every economist" insists (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/president-obama-every-economist-from-the-left-and-right-says-stimulus-has-saved-or-created-at-least-.html) he's saved or created 2 million jobs.

At yesterday's prayer breakfast our Harvard educated dufus saluted two Navy "corpse-men." (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/04/obama_mispronounces_corpsman_at_prayer_breakfast.h tml) Or did someone just mistype the phonetic pronunciation in TOTUS?

Last night at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser, he saluted a woman whose name he forgot who wanted to be buried in an Obama t-shirt (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-She-insisted-shes-going-to-be-buried-in-an-Obama-t-shirt-83645132.html).

2Zia-zoANZw

Are you kidding me? Has anyone on the planet been more consumed with himself than this Dufus-in-chief?

Catsmine
Feb 5, 2010, 06:57 PM
As a former Marine Force Recon Corpsman, this confirms my suspicions about our Gangster-in-Chief. If it isn't about him it isn't important.

tomder55
Feb 6, 2010, 07:03 AM
Did you see his collective thowing the Senate Democrats under the bus meeting this week ?

Amazing stuff !

Blanche Lincoln called him out for drifting too far left ;and suggested that for the electoral survival they should moderate their agenda.

His reply...


If the price of certainty is essentially for us to adopt the exact same proposals that were in place for eight years leading up to the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression -- we don't tinker with health care, let the insurance companies do what they want, we don't put in place any insurance reforms, we don't mess with the banks, let them keep on doing what they're doing now because we don't want to stir up Wall Street -- the result is going to be the same. I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place.
But the president is not only against a centrist shift on policy grounds; he also thinks it is a political loser: ........

If our response ends up being, you know, because we don't want to -- we don't want to stir things up here, we're just going to do the same thing that was being done before, then I don't know what differentiates us from the other guys. And I don't know why people would say, boy, we really want to make sure that those Democrats are in Washington fighting for us.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/03/obama-calls-out-conservat_n_447697.html


The narrative has now changed .It used to be that the Bush policies were idiologically extreme right. Now ;a call to centralism is called the failed policies of the past. He will continuously persue his agenda regardless if his caucus goes down in flames .

The President recently brought one of his faithful,David Plouffe into the White House staff as a political advisor . Last month Ploffe wrote in the wake of the Scott Brown victory that there was not a failure of agenda ,but a failure to pass the agenda .
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/22/AR2010012204216.html)


if we do not pass it, the GOP will continue attacking the plan as if we did anyway, and voters will have no ability to measure its upside. If we do pass it, dozens of protections and benefits take effect this year

If dufus defines one who is so ideologically committed that they are tone deaf to reality then the President is indeed one.

tkrussell
Feb 6, 2010, 07:14 AM
Unfortunately, we need to wait until Jan 20th 2013 to potentially be rid of this clown.

Keeping my fingers, and legs, crossed, Hoping for Change, and he does something impeachable, if this country can survive until then.

speechlesstx
Feb 6, 2010, 07:29 AM
Did you see his collective thowing the Senate Democrats under the bus meeting this week ?

Amazing stuff !

Blanche Lincoln called him out for drifting too far left ;and suggested that for the electoral survival they should moderate their agenda.

Franken even ripped into the administration (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32561.html) over his lack of leadership. Which leads us to...


If dufus defines one who is so ideologically committed that they are tone deaf to reality then the President is indeed one.

That's exactly where the Dems are because, as has been noted many, many times, we're too stupid and don't know what's best for us. Krauthammer put it this way (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/AR2010020403623.html?sub=AR):


This being a democracy, don't the Democrats see that clinging to this agenda will march them over a cliff? Don't they understand Massachusetts?

Well, they understand it through a prism of two cherished axioms: (1) The people are stupid and (2) Republicans are bad. Result? The dim, led by the malicious, vote incorrectly.

And that's where we are now, really, really smart people pressing on to give us dumb peasants what they know we need.

tomder55
Feb 6, 2010, 07:33 AM
Tkrussell

Love the avatar . I'm a Floyd fan.

You will appreciate this .

Carly Fiorina Republican candidate for Senate in California did a web commercial attacking her primary opponent as being a 'Fiscal Conservative in Name only' . She used a Monte Python like video featuring sheep .
YouTube - FCINO: Fiscal Conservative In Name Only (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo7HiQRM7BA&feature=player_embedded)

Well ,someone on Youtube improved it by using the graphics from the video and editting in a soundtrack from the classic Floyd song 'Sheep' from "Animals" .
YouTube - FCINO Fiscal Conservative VS Pink Floyd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2wgHwYC-ZE&feature=player_embedded)


Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You'd better watch out!
There may be dogs about
I looked over Jordan, and I've seen
Things are not what they seem.

That's what you get for pretending the danger's not real.
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is not a bad dream.

cdad
Feb 6, 2010, 07:48 AM
The sad part is. He could have been a good president. But instead he decided president wasn't good enough and he wanted to be ruler. His inexperience has shown through him like a beacon. My only hope is to turn over enough seats to make him a lame duck by the end of this year so he can't do any more harm. Carter had a majority to work with also and they turned on him too. Its about time they woke up. But then again they are worried about their "jobs" and not really about the people.

tomder55
Feb 6, 2010, 07:49 AM
Steve ;
Yes he is becoming frustrated and according the Byron York ,he is also getting bored with the job.

Has Obama become bored with being president? | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Has-Obama-become-bored-with-being-president_-82978332.html)




What drove Obama was not just ambition, although he is certainly ambitious. As he became frustrated in each job, Obama concluded that the problem was not having the power to do the things he wanted to do. So he sought a more powerful position.
Today he is in the most powerful position in the world. Yet he has spent a year struggling, and failing, to enact far-reaching makeovers of the American economy. So now, even in the Oval Office, there are signs that the old dissatisfaction is creeping back in.
At a Jan. 17 Martin Luther King Day event at Washington's Vermont Avenue Baptist Church, Obama brought up the fact that many people see him as almost preternaturally calm. "I have a confession to make," Obama said. "There are times I'm not so calm ... when progress seems too slow ... when it feels like all these efforts are for naught, and change is so painfully slow in coming, and I have to confront my own doubts."
Obama said it to be inspirational, but the fact is, in the past, that's when he looked for a new job.
A few days later, ABC's Diane Sawyer asked whether Obama would sometimes "sit and confront your own doubts."
"Yes," the president said.
"Ever in the middle of all that's coming did you think maybe one term is enough?" Sawyer asked.
Obama answered haltingly. "You know, I -- I would say that when I -- the one thing I'm clear about is that I'd rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president."
Many observers have remarked that, even when dealing with the most momentous issues facing the country, Obama has seemed oddly removed from the hands-on work of making policy. Maybe they're noticing the same thing Harry Reid did. The president's dissatisfaction is shining through; perhaps he's not really cut out for -- or up to -- the job.
In the State of the Union address, Obama declared, "I don't quit." And of course, there's no danger he would just up and quit the presidency. But throughout his life, his reaction to frustration has been to look for a bigger job. What does he do now?

tkrussell
Feb 6, 2010, 07:52 AM
Well done.

Living in Maine, we have a couple of RINO's, Snow and Collins.Although, they have been leaning somewhat conservative, lately. However, they can change like the wind.

We are keeping close eye on them, and keeping score.

As far as Floyd is concerned, and I apologize for going off topic, but I truly believe that they are often misunderstood, or ignored, as being a typical rock and roll band that makes weird music. Even caught the wife, a diehard 50"s fan, tapping her toe to Echoes and may other tunes. I exclaimed, "You got it, you finally get them!".

cdad
Feb 6, 2010, 07:58 AM
Steve ;
yes he is becoming frustrated and according the Byron York ,he is also getting bored with the job.

Has Obama become bored with being president? | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Has-Obama-become-bored-with-being-president_-82978332.html)

What strikes me most from this article is this sentence from it.

Quote:" Reid knew "Obama simply wasn't cut out to be a Senate lifer."

The arogance is scary. That position was never meant to be a lifetime appointment. Its no wonder nothing good comes from there.

speechlesstx
Feb 6, 2010, 08:01 AM
What does he do now? "I'm king of the world!"

hQauP3VizI0

galveston
Feb 6, 2010, 06:39 PM
When I heard his pronouncement that we should all turn off the cable news shows, there was a name that immediately flashed into my mind.

ARCHIE BUNKER!

You know. That line where Archie says to Edith, "Go stifle yourself."

artlady
Feb 6, 2010, 07:37 PM
You are ALL at this site and playing president!
Excuse me? I thought the people who were in the game played the game.
I think not.

speechlesstx
Feb 7, 2010, 06:16 AM
As far as Floyd is concerned, and I apologize for going off topic, but I truly beleive that they are often misunderstood, or ignored, as being a typical rock and roll band that makes weird music. Even caught the wife, a diehard 50"s fan, tapping her toe to Echoes and may other tunes. I exclaimed, "You got it, you finally get them!".

No prob, we always go of topic. I'm a huge Floyd fan as well, I remember listening to DSOTM on an 8-track quadraphonic system.

Catsmine
Feb 7, 2010, 07:38 AM
No prob, we always go of topic. I'm a huge Floyd fan as well, I remember listening to DSOTM on an 8-track quadraphonic system.

I still have my first two vinyl copies. The cassette and the eight-track died. I'm still a little puzzeled by the commercial success of The Wall. Did the public finally "get it?" It's not their best work by a long stretch.

Wait, what was the topic?

speechlesstx
Feb 7, 2010, 08:45 AM
I still have my first two vinyl copies. The cassette and the eight-track died. I'm still a little puzzeled by the commercial success of The Wall. Did the public finally "get it?" It's not their best work by a long stretch.

I have the vinyls as well. In 1979 we were all so stoned it didn't matter if we got it, what stoner couldn't love Another Brick in the Wall and Comfortably Numb?


Wait, what was the topic?


The Dufus, the guy who didn't bother to inform Spain he would skip the EU-US summit, they learned of it in the papers. The guy who rudely and incorrectly scolded the Supreme Court in his SOTU address. The guy hosting a super-bipartisan Super Bowl party (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamas-super-bipartisan-Super-Bowl-party-83671562.html) with one Republican guest. The guy who said (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/29/obama_middle_east_is_obviously_an_issue_that_has_p lagued_the_region_for_centuries.html) the "Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." The guy who didn’t get enough public face time to explain himself to us rubes. To which I say...

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teacher leave them kids alone
Hey! Teacher! Leave them kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

tomder55
Feb 7, 2010, 11:20 AM
The guy who didn't bother to inform Spain he would skip the EU-US summit


Didn't he sell himself during the campaign as the man who could heal our damaged relations with our allies ? Wasn't he going to usher in the end of 'cowboy diplomacy'?

This is particularly funny when you consider the President and Spain's PM Zapatero would seem to be on the same page ideologically .

Every EU summit has been attended by the US President since 1993. But now the compliant press is saying the summit is really not worth the President attending .
PostPartisan - Obama's right to skip U.S.-EU summit (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/obamas_right_to_skip_us-eu_sum.html)

Or that it is Europe's fault for Obama's snub.
Charles Bremner - Times Online - WBLG: Europe to blame for Obama's cold shoulder (http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/charles_bremner/2010/02/europe-to-blame-for-obamas-cold-shoulder.html)

Or even better... he is doing the europeans a favor!!
Op-Ed Contributor - Thank You, President Obama - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/opinion/06iht-edvaisse.html)

It will be the prompt needed for them to get their act together. You see;when Bush was in office it was vital that we filtered all our policies through the European prism of approval . But now the President Obama is in... they really aren't all that important strategically .

tomder55
Feb 7, 2010, 11:27 AM
By the way ,nothing wrong with 'The Wall' that couldn't be fixed by condensing it onto a single album. But I say that about the Beatles 'White album' also.

Catsmine
Feb 7, 2010, 11:30 AM
btw ,nothing wrong with 'The Wall' that couldn't be fixed by condensing it onto a single album. But I say that about the Beatles 'White album' also.

I didn't say it wasn't good. It just wasn't their best. Of course I'm one of those weirdoes that thought Meddle was better than DSOTM

speechlesstx
Feb 9, 2010, 09:22 AM
Yesterday, in the middle of Snowmageddon, when federal offices were shut down due to the blizzard, the Dufus' NOAA announced a new bureaucracy (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/02/08/noaa-blizzard-rearranges-climate-change-announcement/) to help us with climate change.


As D.C. continued to dig out from Snowmageddon and is keeping an eye on another storm system, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration was busy making a climate change announcement.

NOAA, part of the Department of Commerce, is going to be providing information to individuals and decision-makers through a new NOAA Climate Service office. “More and more, Americans are witnessing the impacts of climate change in their own backyards, including sea-level rise, longer growing seasons, changes in river flows, increases in heavy downpours, earlier snowmelt and extended ice-free seasons in our waters. People are searching for relevant and timely information about these changes to inform decision-making about virtually all aspects of their lives,” the release says.

Earlier snowmelt? That would be nice.

Oh the irony. The Gore Effect knows no bounds, lol.

Meanwhile, someone has sponsored an interesting billboard in Minnesota:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/assets_c/2010/02/missmeyet-thumb-400x300.jpg

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 09:36 AM
That's retarded!

speechlesstx
Feb 9, 2010, 03:48 PM
Is the whole administration a bunch of dufuses? On the same day Obama calls for "a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics," his Press Secretary mocked Sarah Palin (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/93518/) writing crib notes in the palm of her hand. Yeah, that's the seriousness we're looking for.

Ace of Spades captured what was really on Gibbs' hand...

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/gibbs-hand.jpg

Update: This also come on the heels of an op-ed today by John Brennan (http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/02/opposing-view-we-need-no-lectures.html?csp=34), Barack Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser, in which he said, "Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda." No grandstanding, please.

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 04:04 PM
No grandstanding, please.You mean like the Obama hatred threads you start? LOL!

speechlesstx
Feb 9, 2010, 04:27 PM
I've never started an "Obama hatred thread." He may be a dufus but that doesn't mean I hate him. What would you prefer, pinhead? Moron? Buffoon?

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 04:35 PM
I've never started an "Obama hatred thread." He may be a dufus but that doesn't mean I hate him. What would you prefer, pinhead? Moron? Buffoon?^^
A nice christian at work here folks. LOL! A good example of why the republican party is the party of hypocrites.

speechlesstx
Feb 9, 2010, 04:47 PM
^^
A nice christian at work here folks. LOL! A good example of why the republican party is the party of hypocrites.

I get it, I'm supposed to feel guilty now. Nah, nice try.

Catsmine
Feb 9, 2010, 08:22 PM
I get it, I'm supposed to feel guilty now. Nah, nice try.

You're supposed to be so filled with remorse for your hatred and racism that you fall to your knees and salaam the Narcissist-in-Chief.

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 08:44 PM
You're supposed to be so filled with remorse for your hatred and racism that you fall to your knees and salaam the Narcissist-in-Chief.
Thank you Expert!

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:03 PM
Obama's comments sounds eerily to me like some lame druggie who has definitely lost interest in the immediate project or acting session of being the POTUS. I find it most remarkable that he is such a vain, self centered person that all the newsmedia constantly kisses his posterior about the least little thing while he totally ignores anything important that does not directly benefit him.

His wife is worse, much worse in the vain, self centered arena than he is. Her gauche outfits speak volumes of just how much she truly hates America and uses every opportunity to shove it in the American's face about how she should be "Queen M".

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 09:09 PM
Her gauche outfits speak volumes of just how much she truly hates America hahahahhahahahahhahahaha! A new low for you twinkie! Lets' see some pictures of you in your outfits that show how much you love America.

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:31 PM
hahahahhahahahahhahahaha! A new low for you twinkie! Lets' see some pictures of you in your outfits that show how much you love America.

Only if you show me your pictures first.

My father's family came here in 1832 and my mother's family came here in 1750. I am a direct descendent of a man who served in the Revolutionary War, a man who served in the Civil War, a man who served in WWI, and a daughter of a man who served in WWII and a widow of a man who served in Nam.

What have you done NK that you can say this is a new low for me?

You live in a gunless/rightless country. You love to come on here at AMHD and happily criticize my country.

Next time I see any kind of news story about some sort of Canadian political scandal you can bet the farm I'll happily post it on here and rip on your country just like you do mine.

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:35 PM
NK - I'll bet that you are just out and out annoyed that all the Obama coins, bobble heads and other useless crap that you bought during the elections are now worthless junk. You must have thought you were going to clean up hoarding all that stuff. Did you receive any of the Wealth Spread he was promising?

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 09:36 PM
You posted about her outfits. Now put up or shut up. Post pics of you in outfits that show you love your country. Show us the correct outfits to wear.

BTW you criticize your country just fine on your own. You'd think you all live in some he! hole based on your posts.

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:38 PM
P.S. And I didn't even mention the Canadian Shoplifting Disease. See? I'm playing nice. Why can't you?

NeedKarma
Feb 9, 2010, 09:39 PM
NK - I'll bet that you are just out and out annoyed that all the Obama coins, bobble heads and other useless crap that you bought during the elections are now worthless junk. You must have thought you were going to clean up hoarding all that stuff. Did you receive any of the Wealth Spread he was promising?
http://www.nutshouse.com/images/you_nuts_icon.jpg

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:43 PM
You posted about her outfits. Now put up or shut up. Post pics of you in outfits that show you love your country. Show us the correct outfits to wear.

BTW you criticize your country just fine on your own. You'd think you all live in some he!!hole based on your posts.

She insists on wearing extremely inappropriate outfits to go to Memorial Services such as a RED dress! Gauche. She wears extremely inappropriate outfits just about every day. I am thoroughly convinced she just puts her arm into her closet and grabs the first thing she touches regardless of where she is scheduled to be that day.

And as for me posting photos of my outfits - sorry. My camera needs batteries and it's snowing outside and the roads are untreated and can't get to WalMart right now.

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:47 PM
OK, NK, since you think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread please tell me just WHAT this man has done FOR my country and not TO my country in the past year?

The floor is all yours...

twinkiedooter
Feb 9, 2010, 09:50 PM
Let me guess. You sold all your Obama coins and bobble heads to Skell in Australia. He was so freaked out that Obama was going to come and torture him last year. I don't know who's nuttier - you Canadians or the Australians. I think it's a toss up.

paraclete
Feb 10, 2010, 03:23 AM
Let me guess. You sold all your Obama coins and bobble heads to Skell in Australia. He was so freaked out that Obama was going to come and torture him last year. I don't know who's nuttier - you Canadians or the Australians. I think it's a toss up.

Well twinkie we know who is nuttier than everyone else, they are called americans, they are actually nutty enough to think that what happens over there is more important than what happens anywhereelse to the other 95% of humanity

Catsmine
Feb 10, 2010, 03:43 AM
Well twinkie we know who is nuttier than everyone else, they are called americans, they are actually nutty enough to think that what happens over there is more important than what happens anywhereelse to the other 95% of humanity

And it is not, until there's an earthquake, or a tsunami, or a famine, or an invasion, or a civil war causing umpteen refugees. Then it's "Where are the Americans?" and "Why haven't the Americans sent more aid/troops/relief?"

speechlesstx
Feb 10, 2010, 06:14 AM
Yes, I find it odd that "everyone else" whines about American arrogance while expecting us to lead the way and solve their problems.

Now back to the subject. Yesterday our new fiscal conservative president met with the White House Press Corpse and praised Congress for supporting his "request to restore the pay-as-you-go rule." That was exactly what the Trojan Horse Dems of 2006 did in 2007. That worked out well didn't it?

He demonstrated again he's either learned nothing from recent elections and the public reaction to Obamacare by saying, "What I agree with is that the public has soured on the process that they saw over the last year. I think that actually contaminates how they view the substance of the bills."

Once again we stupid Americans just don't know what's good for us, if we'd just let him pass his agenda we'll love it. No you Dufus, the process sucked but so did the substance.

He then went on about how businesses aren't expanding because they're waiting for Washington to do more, to fix health care and regulate banks.

Yeah that's it, business is waiting for more Washington before hiring.

NeedKarma
Feb 10, 2010, 06:28 AM
Yes, I find it odd that "everyone else" whines about American arrogance while expecting us to lead the way and solve their problems.
No, only you say that to make yourself feel better.

tomder55
Feb 10, 2010, 07:34 AM
Didn't the President say he learned the lesson of the Scott Brown win and that he wanted to work on jobs jobs jobs?

Anyway;the Republicans should seize the opportunity that the President is giving them by offering a telecast pow wow on Republican alternatives to the regurgitated sausage that is the substance of the two health care bills the Dems have crafted .

It would give them an opportunity to introduce to the public some of their ideas that never got a fair hearing during the debate .Ideas like Congressman Paul Ryan's and Senator Tom Coburn's 'Patients Choice Act'.(HR2520)
Coburn being a physician himself has some insight into the true issues about health care the country should here.

speechlesstx
Feb 10, 2010, 08:25 AM
No, only you say that to make yourself feel better.

So not only are you the forum monitor you're also the forum psychoanalyst. Impressive.

galveston
Feb 10, 2010, 10:52 AM
I'm not sure this is the right thread for this comment/question, but----

Obama has spent a full year trying to resolve the Iran nuclear issue by diplomacy, and it has obviously not worked.

Now, a year later, there is no more time for diplomacy. There may not even be time for sanctions if Iran's nuclear drive is to be stopped.

So what is left to be done?

My question, then, is this.

Has Obama's policy toward Iran actually INCREASED the probability of an expanded Middle Eastern war?

paraclete
Feb 10, 2010, 01:42 PM
And it is not, until there's an earthquake, or a tsunami, or a famine, or an invasion, or a civil war causing umpteen refugees. Then it's "Where are the Americans?" and "Why haven't the Americans sent more aid/troops/relief?"

Some people might say that but only because you have made yourselves out to be the saviour of the world some of us know better we know you have no more answers than the rest of us. But let's face it, you like the idea. Now let us see how well you do in stuffing up Haiti

Catsmine
Feb 10, 2010, 02:58 PM
stuffing up Haiti

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this expression. Would you elucidate?

galveston
Feb 10, 2010, 05:32 PM
Some people might say that but only because you have made yourselves out to be the saviour of the world some of us know better we know you have no more answers than the rest of us. But let's face it, you like the idea. Now let us see how well you do in stuffing up Haiti

Given the level of human suffering in Haiti, I would expect a somewhat less cold comment from you, in particular.

Did it come across harsher than you intended?

paraclete
Feb 10, 2010, 06:02 PM
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this expression. Would you elucidate?

As in SNAS(F)U situation normal all stuffed up

Catsmine
Feb 10, 2010, 06:09 PM
as in SNAS(F)U situation normal all stuffed up

Thanks

paraclete
Feb 10, 2010, 06:11 PM
Given the level of human suffering in Haiti, I would expect a somewhat less cold comment from you, in particular.

Did it come across harsher than you intended?

I'm not against Haiti, those people need all the help they can get, my comment is about those who profess to have the ability to help and their ability to deliver. Past performance would suggest that Haiti may not get what it needs, but what someoneelse wants to give them.

So;
They will get surplus food and their agriculture will be ruined
They will get outside contractors and what little employment there may be will disappear
They will get military construction teams and they will learn nothing
They will get short term medical teams and their health will degenerate
They will get bulldozed and their stock of buildings and buiding materials will be depleted
They will learn to live in tents because that will be all they have

In WWII the result of this in the South Pacific gave rise to the cargo cult so a new cargo cult will form in Haiti

Catsmine
Feb 10, 2010, 06:15 PM
They will ... live

Had to edit your statement so as to point out the alternative.

paraclete
Feb 10, 2010, 06:21 PM
Had to edit your statement so as to point out the alternative.

Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about, that's what happens when you edit someonelse's statements

Catsmine
Feb 11, 2010, 02:43 AM
sorry I have no idea what you are talking about, that's what happens when you edit someonelse's statements

They will live - thanks to American assistance

If Haiti had to wait on Hugo Chavez or the UN they wouldn't.

How they live (the thrust of your statement) is up to them.

tomder55
Feb 11, 2010, 03:30 AM
Clete you of course are talking about the long term effect of nations giving "aid " to a dysfunctional country. I agree and addressed that on the Haiti OP .

What Cats is talking about is the US ability to deliver disaster relief ;and as I pointed out in the Haiti post (at the price of being personally attacked ) was that no other nation has the ability to deliver as much as rapidly.The reason that is true is because we invest a lot into our military capability .

Catsmine
Feb 11, 2010, 03:53 AM
Thanks, Tom.

No matter who wants to boast or complain, NOBODY would be providing aid to the Haitians without the U.S. Navy doing the dog work of opening the harbor. I take a great deal of pride in this as a former Corpse-man (to get back on topic).

tomder55
Feb 11, 2010, 09:52 AM
I'm not sure this is the right thread for this comment/question, but----

Obama has spent a full year trying to resolve the Iran nuclear issue by diplomacy, and it has obviously not worked.

Now, a year later, there is no more time for diplomacy. There may not even be time for sanctions if Iran's nuclear drive is to be stopped.

So what is left to be done?

My question, then, is this.

Has Obama's policy toward Iran actually INCREASED the probability of an expanded Middle Eastern war?



The Mahdihatter announced today that they have reached a milestone producing 20% uranium enrichment. Although this is not the 80-90% needed to produce weapons grade plutonium ;it is just a matter of time before that is achieved. They have demonstrated an ability to enrich uranium. They are in the homestretch .

They have claimed that their program is for peaceful purposes but the "west" and the "international community "has countered with an offer of a swap ;providing them with reactor rods for the operation of commerial nuclear plants for their enriched uranium. If their purpose was commercial it would be logical for them to jump at the offer.
The swap offer has been rejected along with every other "carrot " ;"extended hand to a closed fist " plan so far proposed.

So yes ;the options are dwindling rapidly if the goal is to prevent nuclear proliferation in the Middle East.

One option I wish the administration would consider is supporting the demonstrators who today are getting the snot beat out of them by the goon squads the Mullahs hired on the 31st anniversary of the Revolution .
The underlying problem here is not nuclear weapons but the nature of the jackboot regime that will acquire them .

Yes it would be a legitimate argument for the President to say that this is a situation he inherited .What he inheritted is the Presidency and a leader of the free world!!
When will he quit hiding behind this strawman and act like a leader ?

speechlesstx
Feb 11, 2010, 10:21 AM
One option I wish the administration would consider is supporting the demonstrators who today are getting the snot beat out of them by the goon squads the Mullahs hired on the 31st anniversary of the Revolution .

I'm not holding my breath for that one.


Yes it would be a legitimate argument for the President to say that this is a situation he inherited .What he inheritted is the Presidency and a leader of the free world!!
When will he quit hiding behind this strawman and act like a leader ?

Again, I'm not holding my breath for that. As I mentioned before on his surprise visit with the WH Press Corpse, he called for bipartisanship and "a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics" on the same day his deputy national security adviser claimed his critics only "serve the goals of al-Qaeda."

In response to that and the fumbling of the Eunuch Bomber's case, Sen Kit Bond called on Brennan to resign and Pete Hoekstra called for his firing.

The WH response?

"We regret Senator Bond's assault on Mr. Brennan, and urge everyone who has taken an oath to protect the country to resist the temptation to play politics on these very serious matters of national security."

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago that holding the administration accountable (just like dissent) was patriotic?

tomder55
Feb 11, 2010, 10:46 AM
Again, I'm not holding my breath for that. As I mentioned before on his surprise visit with the WH Press Corpse, he called for bipartisanship and "a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics" on the same day his deputy national security adviser claimed his critics only "serve the goals of al-Qaeda."

In response to that and the fumbling of the Eunuch Bomber's case, Sen Kit Bond called on Brennan to resign and Pete Hoekstra called for his firing.



This is the type of response I was expecting on my op about the Obama anti-terror policy.

Kit Bond is a long time member of the Intelligence Committee .He and Peter King in the House have been shut out on even rudimentary briefings by Brennan . King calls Brennan an egomaniac and I have to agree.

speechlesstx
Feb 11, 2010, 11:13 AM
Well, "Bush did it" along with "it's Bush's fault" seems to encompass much of the administration's policy. Even Bush I...

All during Obama's campaign he swore there would be no middle class tax increases. A year ago he made it "perfectly clear" that no one making less than $250,000 would see a dime of tax increases.

Today (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-11/obama-agnostic-on-deficit-cuts-won-t-prejudge-tax-increases.html)?


President Barack Obama said he is “agnostic” about raising taxes on households making less than $250,000 as part of a broad effort to rein in the budget deficit.

Obama, in a Feb. 9 Oval Office interview, said that a presidential commission on the budget needs to consider all options for reducing the deficit, including tax increases and cuts in spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

“The whole point of it is to make sure that all ideas are on the table,” the president said in the interview with Bloomberg BusinessWeek, which will appear on newsstands Friday. “So what I want to do is to be completely agnostic, in terms of solutions.”

He just needs to spend more time in front of the American people making himself "perfectly clear."

speechlesstx
Feb 12, 2010, 10:44 AM
Another Obamateurism caught by Hugh Hewitt (http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/397c959e-bc81-4098-a516-a1133db93dd0)...


President Say Anything
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 7:42 PM

Today President Obama told Senate Democrats that they had faced "enormous procedural obstacles that are unprecedented.."

"You had to cast more votes to break filibusters last year than in the entire 1950s and 1960s combined. That's 20 years of obstruction jammed into just one."

This is astonishing. A filibuster is the successful use of 41 or more votes to prevent the closing of debate. There wasn't a single filibuster in 2009. Not one.

The president will say anything to advance a narrative that makes him a victim of obstruction. It is clear that 2010 will be spent pivoting from his 2009 mantra of Bush's fault to his campaign year blasts at the "do nothing Republicans."

His advisors must foresee grim news on jobs to offer up such a transparent and unpersuasive, indeed almost purposefully alienating argument.

Details.