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Little_Emo_Wolf
Jan 12, 2010, 10:20 AM
I'm 12, and well, I'm not sure about love but I matured at the age of 8. He's 19, and I know, it's not right for a 12 year old to date a 19 year old, and I know a family when the parents are 12 years apart... Their a happy family.. But there in there 30's now. *I don't listen to my parents, they don't make the right decisions, trust me* and I know I probably haven't learned what "love" is. What do I do?

redhed35
Jan 12, 2010, 10:25 AM
You need to tell someone..

If you have sex with him its rape and he can go to prison.

Your 12,as mature as you think you are,you in a bad place right now and need adult help,if not your parents,how about a teacher or aunt?

Romefalls19
Jan 12, 2010, 10:31 AM
If your parents decision is not to let you two date, then that is the RIGHT decision. What kind of sexual predator is this animal? I mean come on, he's 19! First off, what could you two possibly talk about! This is just disturbing.

Alty
Jan 12, 2010, 10:31 AM
The 19 year old that is interested in you is a pedophile. That's a fact.

He's an adult, you're a child. Dating you is illegal and downright creepy! What could you two possibly have in common?

If your parents are telling you this isn't okay, then I have to disagree with you. They are making the right decision for you.

When you're 20 then date a 27 year old, but at 12, a 7 year age difference is not okay.

Justwantfair
Jan 12, 2010, 10:32 AM
I'm 12, and well, I'm not sure about love but I matured at the age of 8. He's 19, and I know, it's not right for a 12 year old to date a 19 year old, and I know a family when the parents are 12 years apart... Their a happy family.. But there in there 30's now. *I don't listen to my parents, they don't make the right decisions, trust me* and I know I probably haven't learned what "love" is. What do I do?

If you don't see the value in your parents experiences and guidance, then you are not mature at all.

A 19 yr old has nothing in common with a 12 yr old. Adults who marry with a seven year age difference is acceptable because they are dating as adults and adults do have things in common.

In fact, I would venture to say that 12 yrs old, is not even old enough to date!

mudweiser
Jan 12, 2010, 10:44 AM
I'm 12, and well, I'm not sure about love but I matured at the age of 8.

How did you mature? You just woke up on your way to grade 4 all mature.



He's 19, and I know, it's not right for a 12 year old to date a 19 year old,
WHAT 19 year old will talk to a 12 year old? WHO is this person. You are in DANGER. This person is obviously SICK. You are 12 years old.

Yes it's not right. The end. No more.



and I know a family when the parents are 12 years apart... Their a happy family.. But there in there 30's now.

If your 22 and you want to date a 30 something year old that is okay- why? Because they are ADULTS.


*I don't listen to my parents, they don't make the right decisions, trust me*

Your maturity is showing.

How do your parents not make the right decisions for you? Do they abuse you? How do you know that these decisions aren't right for you? What are these decisions you are talking about?


and I know I probably haven't learned what "love" is. What do I do?

Love is a learning process hell I'm in my early 20's and I still don't get it. At 12 it's all kisses and holding hands. Love is much more than that.

Right now you need to love your friends, love your parents, love your family, love your pets and above all love yourself.

As for this 19 year old you NEED to tell him to leave you alone AND you need to tell an adult, a teacher, a cop, your parents, a relative, a neighbor--- this is WRONG.

JudyKayTee
Jan 12, 2010, 10:56 AM
I'm not sure I know what love is. What I do know is that a 19 year old who has anything in common with a 12 year old has serious emotional problems. Has anyone ever spent any time actually talking to a 12 year old?

So, yes, he's a pedophile with other problems.

Little_Emo_Wolf
Jan 12, 2010, 10:57 AM
**I should have mentioned this but he lives in London; No way we could meet until I'm 16 :/**

Alty
Jan 12, 2010, 11:00 AM
**I should have mentioned this but he lives in London; No way we could meet until im 16 :/**

So what are you two doing together? Are you hooking up over the internet, via email, video chat. What?

The fact is, you're 12, he's 19, he's a pedophile, you're a child. End of story.

Romefalls19
Jan 12, 2010, 11:01 AM
It just makes him a British pedophile

redhed35
Jan 12, 2010, 11:03 AM
I wonder does he realise your age?

Even still,have you ever heard of young girls getting pulled in over the internet by perverts?

It happens,everyday.

Stop making contact,tell someone.

Hang out with your friends,and don't get onto sites where you could be in danger... london or timbukto... this guy has no business befriending you.

Curlyben
Jan 12, 2010, 11:03 AM
**I should have mentioned this but he lives in London; No way we could meet until im 16 :/**


So what are you two doing together? Are you hooking up over the internet, via email, video chat. What?

The fact is, you're 12, he's 19, he's a pedophile, you're a child. End of story.


It just makes him a British pedophile

Now that would be GROOMING and an EXTREMELY serious offense in ANY country!!

Alty
Jan 12, 2010, 11:08 AM
I do have to wonder if the OP has been honest about her age. So many people lie over the internet, it could be that this 19 year old thinks she's older then she really is. So maybe we should give him a little benefit of the doubt.

Doesn't change the fact that he'd still go to jail.

What the little 12 year old doesn't realize is that the FBI is really cracking down on things like this. Thankfully. The 19 year old may not be the only one to suffer consequences.

So, OP, if you really care about this guy, go to No Contact, start being 12, stop trying to do adult things until you're an adult. Trust me, you're not mature for your age, not at all. In fact, your actions truly show how very immature you are.

smoothy
Jan 12, 2010, 11:33 AM
Why stop at 19, I'm sure there are more than a few 69 year old pedophiles as well that might be interested.

And I'm sorry to say that at 12 you have hardly matured in any way at all. Nor can you grasp the concepts at play here. ANY 19 year old that's interested in a 12 year old is a pedophile. Plain and simple. Any 12 year old that thinks they are in love with a 19 year old has very clearly been manipulated and groomed by that far more mature person. And yeah that works either way with either gender.

Something else you will learn in due time is a 12 year differnce at 40 is no different than a 1 and at most 2 year difference at your age. THere is a vast amount of difference between 18 and 21, much less 19 and pre-teen.

Odds are your parents really do make the right decisions and its you who don't see it as you lack the life experience to make such judgements. And NO at 12 that is impossible to be able to do. That's not a swipe, that's just reality. You don't suddenly wake up knowing everything, and you certainly don't learn all that by 12. Hell, some adults have a hard time doing that by 30.

And a final note... there is a HUGE difference between maturing and entering puberty. You may have entered puberty at 8 but you certainly haven't matured yet by any definition, physically, mentally or emotionally. You have far too many years to go before that happens.

Cat1864
Jan 12, 2010, 01:01 PM
Stop playing games on the internet.

Unless you met this guy in person, neither of you know each other's true age.

As far as I know, you could be a 38 year old man getting his kicks by pretending to be a 12 year old girl with a serious problem. It is amazing how many trolls (people trying to get other people upset) put phrases in their posts like 'my parents don't understand me', 'I am mature for my age', or 'I am sooooo confused' just to make their 'story' seem more credible. People who prey on others use those same tactics to reel in their 'prize'.

I am not saying that is what you are doing or questioning your age and motives. I want you to question his and to understand that over a long distance there is NO WAY you can be 100% certain that he is who he says he is. If you ask for 'proof', he can send you someone else's and you would never know until it was too late.

Stick to groups of friends your own age who you know personally. Allow yourself to mature gracefully and naturally. Enjoy the journey (even if it isn't always pleasant, there are times to treasure though it doesn't feel that way.)

shazamataz
Jan 12, 2010, 05:30 PM
Here's an interesting story for you...

A few years ago my partner cheated on me, now he didn't cheat in the physical sense, he was talking dirty to a girl over the internet.

The girl he was talking to was supposedly a 19 year old living in America (we live in Australia)

Turns out this girl was only 13 and lived in our state!

He immediately severed contact when he found out her age as he knew it was wrong
(yeah I know the cheating was wrong but even he could see a 13 year old was just creepy beyond reason)

I'm wondering which one of you is being honest... have you really told him you are only 12?

jaime90
Jan 12, 2010, 06:04 PM
JUST PLAIN WRONG! 12 year olds should not be dating.

12 year olds Definitely should not be dating 19 year olds.

Either he has something wrong with his head, or he is just that perverted.

Don't talk to him.

Don't even consider talking to him.

Listen to your parents, and the others who have answered your questions before me- they have more wisdom than you.

Enough said.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. Now, excuse me while I go puke.

friend4u178
Jan 12, 2010, 09:52 PM
This is one thread where I actually hope the OP is a Troll.

If not then take the advice people have given you on here and prove how mature you really are.

J_9
Jan 13, 2010, 08:02 AM
Snifff... sniffffff...

Does that smell like troll to you?

Cat1864
Jan 13, 2010, 08:23 AM
Snifff.....sniffffff....

Does that smell like troll to you?

Yeah, but I decided to hedge my bet on the terrible thought that it could be a serious post.

I have seen some 11-12 year olds that could very easily get themselves in this situation. Most of them were being raised by single parents concerned more with their boy/girlfriend than their child, while the other parent was either not known or not involved at all.

It makes me love mine and those I can have some affect on even more.

J_9
Jan 13, 2010, 08:27 AM
It makes me love mine and those I can have some affect on even more.

I think I'll hug my CHILDREN when they get home from school today... Thanks Cat!

Romefalls19
Jan 13, 2010, 08:29 AM
I think I'll hug my CHILDREN when they get home from school today....Thanks Cat!!

Ah makes me happy that a boy tried to kiss my youngest today and she remembered what I taught her, if a boy tries to kiss you. You punch him ;)

J_9
Jan 13, 2010, 08:33 AM
Ah makes me happy that a boy tried to kiss my youngest today and she remembered what I taught her, if a boy tries to kiss you. You punch him ;)

Too funny!!

I'm happy to announce that my 16 year old girl is still a lip virgin!

Cat1864
Jan 13, 2010, 08:34 AM
Ah makes me happy that a boy tried to kiss my youngest today and she remembered what I taught her, if a boy tries to kiss you. You punch him ;)

Sounds like my daughter. :)

Now, if we can just teach this op the same lesson.

You're welcome, J. Give them a hug for me, too.

J_9
Jan 13, 2010, 08:43 AM
You're welcome, J. Give them a hug for me, too.

We are family.. I got all my sisters with me... LOL.

Sorry, blonde moment...


Romefalls19 agrees: That's my goal, and I have the Shotgun to honor it ;) JK! Or am I

Honey, you should see my personal armory!! Our freaking firearms are worth more than our house... and our daughter doesn't even realize it when she brings up Daddy's profession (master gunsmith) to her potential boyfriends...

Dang, now I realize why she is still a lip virgin!! :eek:

Alty
Jan 13, 2010, 09:07 AM
Sydney is only 7 and a boy in her class tried to kiss her a few months ago. She pushed him away, told him to get out of her personal space.

That's my girl! :)

I've said it before, I'll say it again, as soon as the first boy calls the house looking to date my daughter, cabin in the woods, no neighbors for miles, no TV, no phone, no internet.

There's also the option of telling the boy "Son, I've got a big yard, a shovel and a shotgun. I doubt anyone will miss you". :)

MsMewiththat
Jan 13, 2010, 09:08 AM
Whatever happened to jump rope and dance class? Running with kids in the neighborhood and babysitting? I don't know about the rest of you but I get so exhausted with the way our world is for our children.

Little_Emo_Wolf:

PLEASE speak to your mother or father or both about what is going on with you and this "person" on line. A realationship like this can take on another life and things can happen that you are just too young to comprehend. Then I want you to concentrate on being a little girl. Dancing in the mirror, reading books and playing with children that are your age and physically in your life. Be present in today and enjoy your youth. Do you have a hobby? Do you play sports? Dial it back and just be 12.
PLEASE

ohsohappy
Jan 13, 2010, 09:20 AM
Here's the thing, you're 12, he's 19. Not only that, but he lives in London, so you'll never get to see him anyway.

The point is, that your parents love you, and if they say no, they have a good reason for it.

You can't say "my parent's don't make the right decisions, trust me" and expect us to just believe it without solid proof to back it up. And even then, we would be taking the word of a 12 year old child who believes in her own head that dating a MAN, a 19 year old man who lives across the world will work, over her parents best judgement. That's not good at all.

Here's the deal, you have NOT matured. You might have matured physically early if that's the case, but you have not matured mentally and emotionally, and you are not ready to have a relationship.

ohsohappy
Jan 13, 2010, 10:05 AM
Sydney is only 7 and a boy in her class tried to kiss her a few months ago. She pushed him away, told him to get out of her personal space.

That's my girl! :)

I've said it before, I'll say it again, as soon as the first boy calls the house looking to date my daughter, cabin in the woods, no neighbors for miles, no tv, no phone, no internet.

There's also the option of telling the boy "Son, I've got a big yard, a shovel and a shotgun. I doubt anyone will miss you". :)

I was chased on the playground by one kid on several occasions. I tried many ways to get him to stop trying to kiss me such as pushing, calling names, kicking, running, telling the teacher, but he wouldn't leave me alone. He never got one, especially after that last time when I tied him to the tetherball court with a jump rope. :rolleyes:

J_9
Jan 14, 2010, 08:11 PM
ohsohappy agrees: Tee hee, as far as you know. =P

Oh, I know Ohso... we have a VERY open relationship for a mother and a daughter. We've talked about it on numerous occasions, and very recently as well... she just had her first car date 2 weeks ago.

ohsohappy
Jan 14, 2010, 08:25 PM
Oh, I know Ohso....we have a VERY open relationship for a mother and a daughter. We've talked about it on numerous occasions, and very recently as well...she just had her first car date 2 weeks ago.

Aw that's good. :) YAY!
That's wonderful for you both!

J_9
Jan 14, 2010, 08:30 PM
Aw that's good. :) YAY!
That's wonderful for you both!

Yes, I'm pretty darned sure she will not be a pregnant teen.

shazamataz
Jan 14, 2010, 10:13 PM
Yes, I'm pretty darned sure she will not be a pregnant teen.

I was a lip virgin until I was 16.
I'm 23 now and still no kids, I think you are safe... for now :p

summmmer
Jan 16, 2010, 03:07 PM
He's using you
Start with someone your age
:)

emma80
Jan 16, 2010, 03:46 PM
This has scared the life out of me.
I have an 11 year old daughter , although I would say she is pretty grown up for her age, this is the little girl who thinks a vegetarian is " A live carrot "? (please don't ask!
The little girl who days ago pointed to my cotton wool make up removing pads and proudly announced " would be needing those pads soon when her periods start!

At 11 years old only a year younger than the threads starter , it scares you. Yes my daughter has Internet access in fact she has her own laptop , but is only allowed to use it in the lounge where we are all there on an evening. If she wants to add another friend to her MSN then she has to have permission , we also set the password and check it regularly. No I am not invading her privacy as she tells me - I am keeping her safe.

At 13 years old I babysat and entered into a relationship of sorts with a 32 year old man , we did not have intercourse but pretty much everything else. At the time it was a secret and was fun , sadly I did not see the dangers. Thankfully he and his wife moved away before anything became of it.

I think this should be a wake up call whether this is a true thread or a made up situation to all parents.

ohsohappy
Jan 16, 2010, 07:52 PM
This has scared the life out of me.
I have an 11 year old daughter , although I would say she is pretty grown up for her age, this is the little girl who thinks a vegetarian is " A live carrot "? (please don't ask!
The little girl who days ago pointed to my cotton wool make up removing pads and proudly announced " would be needing those pads soon when her periods start!

At 11 years old only a year younger than the threads starter , it scares you. Yes my daughter has Internet access in fact she has her own laptop , but is only allowed to use it in the lounge where we are all there on an evening. If she wants to add another friend to her MSN then she has to have permission , we also set the password and check it regularly. No I am not invading her privacy as she tells me - I am keeping her safe.

At 13 years old I babysat and entered into a relationship of sorts with a 32 year old man , we did not have intercourse but pretty much everything else. At the time it was a secret and was fun , sadly I did not see the dangers. Thankfully he and his wife moved away before anything became of it.

I think this should be a wake up call whether this is a true thread or a made up situation to all parents.
Thank you for adding this!

Justwantfair
Jan 16, 2010, 11:13 PM
At 12, it is so easy to see the interest of older men as flattering. You feel it's a compliment that someone older is interested in you.

When you are mature, you will understand that it isn't a compliment, you were just someone easy to prey on. Naïve, trusting and immature enough to believe anything that you are told. It doesn't make you unwise, it just is something at 12 you aren't meant to understand.

Appreciate your time at 12, don't envy and rush to be grown up, that will happen on it's own. Trust in values and your parents guidance, they were 12 once also. There isn't many loves as great as a parent's love and best wishes for their children. Their direction is meant to help you grow.

JudyKayTee
Jan 17, 2010, 07:55 AM
I also find mature "people" don't find a need to keep telling other people how mature they are. Whenever a post opens with "I am very mature ..." I can pretty much predict what will follow.

ScottGem
Jan 17, 2010, 08:26 AM
At 13 years old I babysat and entered into a relationship of sorts with a 32 year old man , we did not have intercourse but pretty much everything else. At the time it was a secret and was fun , sadly I did not see the dangers. Thankfully he and his wife moved away before anything became of it.

I hate to come down on you for this, but I'm assuming you never did anything more about this pedophile. How many other young girls have been victimized by this man because you did nothing?

Maybe its not too late. I think you should report it.

J_9
Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM
I also find mature "people" don't find a need to keep telling other people how mature they are. Whenever a post opens with "I am very mature ..." I can pretty much predict what will follow.

That, and "I'm 19 soon to be 20" Who cares what you are "soon" to be. What matters is the age they are NOW.

ohsohappy
Jan 19, 2010, 05:40 PM
That, and "I'm 19 soon to be 20" Who cares what you are "soon" to be. What matters is the age they are NOW.

I'm 19, soon to be 20. :p:D

JudyKayTee
Jan 19, 2010, 05:45 PM
I never understand the need to post I'm 19 going to be 20. Most of the time - as far as I know - 19 year olds do turn 20 at some time or another.

Alty
Jan 19, 2010, 05:54 PM
I never understand the need to post I'm 19 going to be 20. Most of the time - as far as I know - 19 year olds do turn 20 at some time or another.

I'm 39 going to be 29. ;)

Shhhh! Don't say it! I refuse to turn 40! :o

J_9
Jan 19, 2010, 05:58 PM
I never understand the need to post I'm 19 going to be 20. Most of the time - as far as I know - 19 year olds do turn 20 at some time or another.

I got a good chuckle out of that one.

jaime90
Jan 19, 2010, 06:04 PM
I must say, I'm TRULY 19... and 3/4... I'm going to turn 20! Haha... oddly enough..