The yankees win! The yankees wwwwwwwwiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnn!!

Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee YANKEEEEES ~~~~~~~WINNNNNNNNNNN!!
A Thrilla by Godzilla!

Still can't figure out why the Phillies didn't use their other available lefty starter Happ at Yankee Stadium for games 2 and 6 .

Yee Haw! That's my team!!

Congratulations. It was nice of Ryan Howard to show up last night for one at bat during this series.

And I was beginning to wonder why the Yanks didn't get it that they could pitch around Utley to get to Howard.

Whoop-t-doo; should anyone be surprised?

Sour grapes ?

sour grapes ?Hello tom:

Is it any surprise that the bought and paid for team won? What's surprising, is that they had to work for it.

I thought that MLB had provisions that prevented somebody from stacking their team. Guess not. Why are steroids a big deal, and this isn't?

Course, I don't expect YOU to give me a good answer. You're a New Yorker.

excon

I'm almost insulted there was any doubt the Yankees would win. This is their 27th win afterall :) And after the Phillis kicked the Rays butts last year, this was a much sweeter victory! (Always been a Yankees fan, but the Rays are my hometown team!)

Hello tom:

Is it any surprise that the bought and paid for team won?? What's surprising, is that they had to work for it.

I thought that MLB had provisions that prevented somebody from stacking their team. Guess not. Why are steroids a big deal, and this isn't?

Course, I don't expect YOU to give me a good answer. You're a New Yorker.

excon

If it were a matter of them winning because they are a "bought and paid for" team, then they'd have many more World Series wins under their belts. Not to mention the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are almost the complete opposite of a "bought and paid for" team yet they made it to the world series and stood a real chance of winning.

You clearly were rooting for the Phillies, but no need to be a poor sport. They can try again next year.

Hello tom:

Is it any surprise that the bought and paid for team won? What's surprising, is that they had to work for it.

I thought that MLB had provisions that prevented somebody from stacking their team. Guess not. Why are steroids a big deal, and this isn't?

Course, I don't expect YOU to give me a good answer. You're a New Yorker.

Excon

Show some consistency . Here you have an employer who instead of being greedy ,spends his money and gives the top pay scale to his employees.
You should be rooting for a business owner like that . You should demand that your pathetic Mariner's owners ;who also have the financial means , field a quality team, to compete with the Yanks .

The Yankee can spend $400,000,000 on three players(CC, Burnett, Texiera) no other team in baseball can do that. As long as this is allowed to happen in baseball there will never be a level playing field. Why do you think most baseball fans hate the Yankees? It's not because they win championships it is because they can buy anyone they want and no other team can compete with that. The Rays were a fluke last year if they weren't they would have been in the post season this year. Besides Rays fans only show up to games during the playoffs.

Regardless if they play the Phillies or the Indians I always get a smile on my face when the Evil Empire gets beat. And so do most baseball fans.

How did the Phillies afford to get Cliff Lee ? The fact is that the Phillies have the 8th highest payroll in the MLB and the Mariners the 7th .Let's stop the cry of poverty please !

The Yanks also pay a fortune to owners in the league with the Luxury Tax imposed by the league. This goes directly into the pockets of the owners of teams like the Pirates who regularly pocket the difference and have a fire sale of their best players.

Who then is serving the game better ?

Hello spit:

In fact, it's the YANKEES who are responsible for my lifelong stance of always rooting for the underdog... My earliest memories are of wanting the Brooklyn Dodgers beat the dreaded Yankees.

excon

Ask yourself why Ibanez played for the Phillies this year instead of the Mariners and then direct your anger where it belongs.

The Steinbrenners are a rabid fans Christmas wish . Truth be told ;ya'll wish they were to owners of the teams you root for.

Hello again,

Tis true... We HAD Ibanez.. We HAD Steve Huchenson... We HAD A-Rod. We HAD Griffey. We HAD Moyer. We HAD the Sonics...

We got a nice view, though.

excon

We got a nice view, though.

No doubt about that . One of these days I'll go back to Washington for an extended vacation instead of a stop over on my way to Alaska. I want to hike in Mount Rainier National Park .

Oh, boo friggin' hoo. So the Yankees have a higher payroll than anyone else? How do you think they got it?

They got it by winning World Series long before Steinbrener came along to increase their payroll. They got it by becoming the winingest team in baseball, resulting in selling more tickets than anyone else.

Steinbrener bought the team in 1973. By that time, they had already won 20 of their 27 World series. They had already won more than twice the number of World Series championships that the second winningest team in baseball has won TODAY. (That would be the Cardinals with 10 World Series championships).

They didn't have Steinbrener's billions to back them up when they won 4 in a row from 1936 to 1939 under Joe McCarthy. They didn't have the most massive payroll in baseball when they won 5 in a row from 1949-1953 under Casey Stengel.

And keep in mind that in the 36 years that Steinbrener has been the owner, they have only won 7 times. Apparently, Steinbrener's billions can't buy the World Series every year.

Face it, the argument that the Yankees bought the series with their bigger payroll funded by Steinbrener's personal fortune is full of cr#p. If it wasn't, the Yankees would win every year, but they don't. And the payroll really comes from sale of tickets and merchandise, which is a product of winning World Series games, not the other way around.

So boo friggin' hoo. For all of you who are angry about the Yanks being able to pay more for their players, I'm rubbing my forefinger and thumb together for you... playing the world's smallest violin.

Get over it.

Elliot

Ex I am still so mad that the Sonics are now the OKC Thunder!!

I hate to admit it Tom but you are right I wish we could spend that much. But for the good of the game they need to have a salary cap.

It is not about buying championships it is about giving each team a chance to compete for free agents. There is no competition if the Pirates and Yankees are both interested in a free agent there is no way the Pirates are getting him.

I'd go for a cap if they had a hard minimum salary... and don't say the small market teams couldn't afford it either since there is already a socialized revenue sharing going on.

Let me ask you though ;following up Elliot's point. The Mets in your division were the 2nd highest paid team in baseball. What did it get them ?

If the dynamics changed the Yanks would still come out ahead . Why ? Because they would put their money into scouting and the minor league system like they did in the days before free agency.
My point remains .They are successful because they are willing to spend their money on their franchise instead of pocketting it.

Spit... just curious... do you think Ryan Howard played like a $15,000,000 player ? How about Lidge ? Did he pitch like a $12,000,000 pitcher ?

Yes Howard played like a 15,000,000 player up until the world series. Closers are an entirely different breed of players. The guy had what 41 straight that's why he got paid what he did. The Mets are the mets they could buy the entire yankees team and still suck

The Mets are the mets they could buy the entire yankees team and still suck

So then you agree that winning or losing isn't a function of money.

Elliot

I wish we could spend that much
John Middleton just one of 5 owners of the Phillies sold his cigar company John Middleton Inc for $2.9 billion last year. The others in the ownership group all represent great wealth . It's not that they can't spend the extra money on the Phillies. They won't or didn't until recently .

ET. If the player doesn't have the chemistry with the other players it is not going to work out. But maybe he would have had chemistry with the Pirates. But the Pirates never get that chance because they can't compete money wise.

ET. If the player doesn't have the chemistry with the other players it is not going to work out. But maybe he would have had chemistry with the Pirates. But the Pirates never get that chance because they can't compete money wise.

Its not just Yankee money that attracts players. Players have always been attracted to the Yankees because the NY location represents more endorsement opportunities. Getting to the World Series, year after year also meant extra income from WS shares.

If the Pirates fielded a perennial contender, they would attract more players.

Steinbrenner didn't create free agency, the players did. Steinbrenner just made the most use of it.

Steinbrenner didn't create free agency, the players did. Steinbrenner just made the most use of it.

Great point, Scott.

sour grapes ?

No sour grapes; I love baseball. But it is very difficult not to pull for the underdog. ARod is a fantastic player; he just doesn't look normal, in my eyes. And tip of the hat to the Yankee manager cause he has to put-up with all that bs up there; he did a great job with the team. I like Joe Torre, too.

I couldn't care less how much an owner invests in his team. But, there should not be protection from competition by the government, to the extent that Congress protects professional sports through an exemption to anti-trust - it should be stopped.

You guys are right. I just hate NY from the Yankees to the lowly Knicks. They could spend 0 dollars next year and I'll still B*tch and moan about them. Right now it just hurts more. And if the knicks end up signing Lebron James next year I might kill myself ;)

couldn't care less how much an owner invests in his team. But, there should not be protection from competition by the government, to the extent that Congress protects professional sports through an exemption to anti-trust - it should be stopped.

Very fair point. But you do know that only MLB has anti-trust codified. That hasn't stopped NFL from being monopolistic.

The NFl has lost every single anti-trust suit against them and that hasn't prevented them from either squashing or assimilating any competition that has tried to go against them .
Truth be told... people prefer the single "national" league format for their sports. Even college sports are evolving into a single league format with the BCS .

Lebron James won't help them .They are cursed . The league rigged for them to get Patrick Ewing and they still ended up being second fiddle to the Jordon Bulls.

Look at it this way. For every YIN Yanks and Giants team we have there is a YANG Mets,Jets,Nets .In fact ;any team that ends in an ETS is cursed.

Thanks for that Tom!

You guys are right. I just hate NY from the Yankees to the lowly Knicks. They could spend 0 dollars next year and I'll still B*tch and moan about them. Right now it just hurts more. And if the knicks end up signing Lebron James next year I might kill myself ;)

Now that's a post that I can respect. Honest and in-your-face. Kudos, spitvenom.

Elliot

I guess I've mellowed over the years... fantasy sports tends to make you a fan of more than just your guys. I even find myself (gulp) cheering on Eli Manning, Brandon Jacobs, McNabb and the Iggles defense on Sunday. This week I will even root for Clinton Portis. That's saying something for a lifelong Cowboys fan. But I still hate the Yankees. :D

Now, want to see something odd in baseball? Watch this video (http://thedugoutdoctors.com/2009/11/korean-hbp-reaction-seeing-is-believing/). Maybe someone can explain the custom here...

Well. None of you suffer like Cubs fans. We standardized 'wait 'til next year'. It has been over 100 years since we have won a world series... 100 YEARS!!

They have done scientific studies on the begotten Cubbie fans. And how they can come back each year, fill the stadium and cheer for their lovable losing Cubbies.

Not to mention the GOAT!!

I gave up on those ba*t*rds in the 80's. When they went to the Padre's in the playoffs and lost 4 straight. I burned all things Cubs then...

You'd think... Chicago... maybe someone could have put in a 'fix' by now... again... 100 YEARS!

I want to puke, I am so ashamed, hiding my head now.

You'd think...Chicago....maybe someone could have put in a 'fix' by now...again...100 YEARS!

I want to puke, I am so ashamed, hiding my head now.

"Why so serious?"


"The Curse of the Bambino was a superstition cited as a reason for the failure of the Boston Red Sox baseball team to win the World Series in the 86-year period from 1918 until 2004. While some fans took the curse seriously, most used the expression in a tongue-in-cheek manner." Curse of the Bambino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Bambino)

I have never seen a Cub team that won (period) Ha ha, now you know why I don't like these Cubbies. Even if given free tickets to a catered box, I give them away. :mad:

Stringer

The goat is real . The Cubbies are the perfect example that the money spent on a team is not the indicator of outcome.
The Cubbies spent $134 million in payroll ;3rd behind the Mets.

I have been rooting for Cubbie success for years . They have a team that should .

the goat is real . The Cubbies are the perfect example that the money spent on a team is not the indicator of outcome.
The Cubbies spent $134 million in payroll ;3rd behind the Mets.

I have been rooting for Cubbie success for years . They have a team that should .

Yeah Tom... but they are NOT the "Little train that COULD."

"Loveable Cubbies"... Yeah right!

I am a Bears fan and we suffer too. I don't understand, Chicago is a world class city and we cannot consistently field a winner in most sports. Sure there were the Jordon Bulls and the '85 Bears (the recent trip to the SB doesn't count... Doe eyes in the headlights) and the White Sox champs a few years ago (who cares)...

Being raised in Pittsburgh I am also a Steelers fan, I earned that right as I was a fan prior to the '70's when they were the floor mat of the NFL and then they learned how to win. Thank God that I have at least one team to root for that can and does know how to win.

Any way, I played baseball all my life, love the game; high school through college. And couched Pony baseball through Palomino for 14 years. We even won the DuPage County championship.

I think that winning has a LOT to do with being committed and totally being a team player something that I believe that the Cubs don't have and may never have.

Sorry for this long post, but my disgust for them is bubbling to the top...

Stringer

Stringer

Not even the Ernie Banks (let's play 2)Cubbies ? You know they were cursed when the black cat crossed Ron Santo's path .:D

They just don't 'jell.' They tease everyone occasionally win some games... but most people realize that it is all smoke.

IF fans would stop going to the games... IF, maybe they would find a way to finally bring home a World Series Championship. But that will never happen, the northside yuppies love spending their time in futile, frustrating and hopeless dreaming at Wrigley Field at lunchtime, taking the rest of the day off...

Got to love those yuppies... (said with disgust... )

You know I almost wanted to move this over to the Religion section, since miricles prove there is a God. ( LOL)

You know I almost wanted to move this over to the Religion section, since miricles prove there is a God. ( LOL)

Miracles? Not in Chicago my friend, not in Chicago sports! :)