... Without having to deal with vitiligo patches or the like, of course.

I have never seen anyone at all other than Vitiligo victims and MJ who wore chalky makeup all over his body.

So is it really possible. I just looked at the Makari video and those people who use it and work there look extremely dark brown, not light by any means. The fair and flawless woman also looks dark.

Personally I consider a complexion a minimum of Aishwarya Rai, and lighter, "fair" or light. And she's not that fair at all, rather wheat-complected, no?

Wonder if she uses anything? LOL

http://desi-galaxy.sabza.org/wp-content/aishwarya-beautiful.jpg

Of course Aishwarya Rai used lighteners, because in her earlier bollywood films she was darker compared to her recent films.

With the Makari video, we would have to see their before photos in order to compare with the after to notice any lightening... they probably never tried to lighten their skin, just into making money from those who desire to lighten their skin. The lady on the website with the mint lollipop is just a web design template they purchased from somewhere, I don't remember the template site though. The same for the owner of fair&flawless, that could be her original color and she may just enjoy selling the lightening products instead of using them. That's just my guess.

My dear Golden twin, so you're certain she lightened her skin, not just moisturisers mask, exfoliation? Okay thanks. In Her Miss universe photos she does look slightly darker.

So does anyone know what products Aishwarya uses or has advertised for at some point?

Because of her light eyes, I find she's very sexy even at her darkest.

http://www.bollywoodbrazil.com/films/hi_res/AishwaryaRai1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r-gKSVVM2Rc/Sl6u3dmaWpI/AAAAAAAAAZE/R8ib7qnHt0M/s400/aishwarya-loreal.jpg

But I think she looks best when she's fairer.

http://www.masala.com/images/tmp/full/gandaflush_1_full.jpg

Maybe her foundations a bit too light there, though. Hmm I don't see much of a difference in her over the years, overall. That's a good thing, though :)

I think she must have lightened her skin. Because whenever she is interviewed by someone in America. The first thing they do is ask her about skin lightening creams and if she uses them. She was on Tyra. Tyra asked her and she lied right through her teeth and Tyra had a shady vibe toward her the rest of the interview. Oprah asked her and she lied. But Oprah didn't really care.

she lied right through her teeth and Tyra had a shady vibe toward her the rest of the interview.

Lol... she may not have lightened dramatically, but I noticed her body along with her face, has definitely lightened noticeably but subtle. Excluding tricks of the camera, exfoliation, and foundation (excuses I would use too)... she was a wheatish complexion when she first started years ago as I loved seeing her bollywood movies. Whatever method she chooses to lighten, it was done to lighten her skin all over and not just her face. As she began to transition to Western culture and the West adores her, her color has now lightened to the same shade as caucasion's complexion is and nolonger her wheatish native complexion. I believe she would also be beautiful in several shades and even a brown shade. Her wheatish color made her look more exotic. But now although still beautiful, she appears to now look more westernized.

I think she must have lightened her skin. Because whenever she is interviewed by someone in America. The first thing they do is ask her about skin lightening creams and if she uses them. She was on Tyra. Tyra asked her and she lied right through her teeth and Tyra had a shady vibe toward her the rest of the interview. Oprah asked her and she lied. But Oprah didn't really care.


Also most majority Americans asked, also assume she's wearing color contacts.

They think Indian = almost Black..

I guess

:confused:

Well, I know here eye color is real and that was the main feature that gives her much attention. I read somewhere that one of her parents is mixed with Caucasian or is Caucasian? But anyway, people of all races and complexions can have any eye color. My older sister's eyes are naturally a greyish green and my grandfather had grayish green eyes as well. So race does not matter when it comes to eye color.

Yes there are all shades of eye colors and skin colors, except in the extremes.

( Extremes as in Iceland or Central Africa :) )

Hmmm... I no little of Iceland, that is another place I would love to visit.

Lets go! We may get a twin discount or something! :)

Ha ha.. the Golden Ticket I believe

Lolz Gold Class?

U can have the window if you'd like, sis! :)

YaaaaY the window is the best!

...Without having to deal with vitiligo patches or the like, of course.

I have never seen anyone at all other than Vitiligo victims and MJ who wore chalky makeup all over his body.

So is it really possible. I just looked at the Makari video and those people who use it and work there look extremely dark brown, not light by any means. The fair and flawless woman also looks dark.

Personally I consider a complexion a minimum of Aishwarya Rai, and lighter, "fair" or light. And she's not that fair at all, rather wheat-complected, no?

Wonder if she uses anything?? LOL

http://desi-galaxy.sabza.org/wp-content/aishwarya-beautiful.jpg

I don't think she uses lightening creams because one of the skin lightening brands asked her to advertise for their products and she said that she will take no part in skin lightening creams and that she believes that you should love and embrace your own color!

She's only saying this because she's light skinned! What a B*&%#!

I dont think she uses lightening creams cauz one of the skin lightening brands asked her to advertise for their products and she said that she will take no part in skin lightening creams and that she believes that u should love and embrace ur own color!
She's only saying this cauz shes light skinned! what a B*&%#!!


^^^ YAY she's not only sooo beautiful, but incredibly wise and cares about her fans who idolize her!

I'm jealous of her fair-enough skin and fair eyes.

Got to love her!

:)

I dont think she uses lightening creams cauz one of the skin lightening brands asked her to advertise for their products and she said that she will take no part in skin lightening creams and that she believes that u should love and embrace ur own color!

She's only saying this cauz shes light skinned! what a B*&%#!!

Yeah, she refused to endorse L'oreal skin lightening cream but when she first started she was the brand ambassador of Fair & Lovely :rolleyes:... Oh well, she probably needed the money then... lol

Yeah, she refused to endorse L'oreal skin lightening cream but when she first started out she was the brand ambassador of Fair & Lovely :rolleyes:...Oh well, she probably needed the money then...lol


Hi Great! Oh, lets forgive her for that since fair & lovely company admits their cream doesn't lighten at all just servers as a sunblock while the white pigments make one look "fairer"... I see you have been a member over a year here, have you gotten lighter or clearer, and what have you used that worked?

Hey Golden, well, my goal is to even out my complexion rather than overall whitening... I'm about the same complexion of the first pic you posted of Ms Rai but my back is like a whole shade darker than the rest of me... :o and so far nothing has worked on my back :confused:; so the search continues.. :rolleyes:

Also most majority Americans asked, also assume she's wearing color contacts.

They think Indian = almost Black ..

I guess

:confused:

That does not make any sense. I have seen many blacks with different colored eyes that were not contacts. I had mentioned already that my older sister and my grandfather has grayish-green eyes but they are are black like me. One of my cousins as well as my nephew somehow came out with having blue eyes. I would not consider Indians as white, but as a very mixed race as history clearly points out.

http://www.nsff.no/cms/grafikk/lars_erik_hauklien-black_girl_blue_eyes.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/boobookitten/blueeyesp_3.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.blackvoices.com/blogs/media/2009/02/black-baby-blue-eyes.jpg

I agree with Great, with Rai's past position Fair&Lovely. I believe it is now her image she must protect as she is internationally known world-wide now. F&L also has mercury content.

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1081/CUS-200046179
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h17403r46701423l/

That does not make any sense. I have seen many blacks with different colored eyes that were not contacts. I had mentioned already that my older sister and my grandfather has grayish-green eyes but they are are black like me. One of my cousins as well as my nephew somehow came out with having blue eyes. I would not consider Indians as white, but as a very mixed race as history clearly points out.

Newsflash: Black People Can Have Blue Eyes Love Muffins! | LOVEBSCOTT.COM (http://www.lovebscott.com/2007/10/15/newsflash-black-people-can-have-blue-eyes-love-muffins/#)
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/united_artists/hotel_rwanda/michael_ealy/rwandapred.jpg
http://www.lovebscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/62728170-l101407.jpg
http://www.lovebscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ndvanessainpurpletop101407.jpg
http://www.nsff.no/cms/grafikk/lars_erik_hauklien-black_girl_blue_eyes.jpg
http://www.africancolours.net/media/10929_2_03,%20Miss%20Richard%20Wachira.jpg Here is a 100% African Kikuyu girl from Kenya


*Awe* Beautiful what nice contrast thanks for the pics, sis!

It doesn't make sense either than when a dark person has light eyes, people tend to think/assume they are necessarily part "white"(caucasian)... like even about Aishwarya Evolutionarily, Homo sapiens erecta was light-skinned (250,000 years ago) evolved into a dark-skinned homo sapien sapiens of Africa(100,000 yrs ago) and these dark-skinned migrated all over the world since 70,000 yrs ago to present

Yeah most indian subcontinentals are some degree of mix between aryan (caucacus) and dravidian(dark south asian), and other groups of course.

I love Aishwarya!! She is so gorgeous!! I agree because 2 of my cousin's children have very fair skin and 1 of her daughters have eyes that are a very bright blue but sometimes look a very bright greyish-blue or greenish-blue.My cousin is black and she is brown skin. And the father of her children is black and light skin. Both my cousin and the father of her children have dark brown eyes. Also I heard somewhere that almost every race even Africans are mixed with something. If not in your intermediate family ,then within your ancestry are people or a person of a different race. Sometimes the genes of your ancestors can skip a generation and be passed onto your children. My grandmother had very light olive skin and my great grandmother father had bright blue eyes and my great grandmothers fathers mother was Caucasian. So in theory according to genealogy my cousin's daughter could have inherited here eyes from an ancestor. I believe that no race is pure. I think every race is a mixture of something ,some people just don't know it.My next door neighbor is Indian and she has very pale blue eyes ,but you can tell that they are her eyes. Anyone could have any Color eyes. Race doesn't matter, so I agree with you both. Also I used to always think Aishwarya eyes were real until I stumbled on to this blog that was discussing whether her eyes were real.Next thing I knew someone had put up these pictures of Aishwarya when she was a baby,teenager and little girl. In these pictures you could tell it was her and her eyes looked brown. Since my computer is still broke I was looking at all of this on my blackberry "LOL" which is like a mini computer.I saved it to my phone and showed it to my mom and emailed it. Everyone was amazed and were like how did this person get these pictures of her.She is still gorgeous to me though!

I used to always think Aishwarya eyes were real until I stumbled on to this blog that was discussing whether her eyes were real.Next thing I knew someone had put up these pictures of Aishwarya when she was a baby,teenager and little girl. In these pictures you could tell it was her and her eyes looked brown. Since my computer is still broke I was looking at all of this on my blackberry "LOL" which is like a mini computer.I saved it to my phone and showed it to my mom and emailed it. Everyone was amazed and were like how did this person get these pictures of her.She is still gorgeous to me though!


LOL There you go. Aishwarya's eye's are really light, just like your Indian neighbor's.

The reasons her childhood photo's eyes look dark/brown are because of the Sephia processing that was standard for India, back in the day.

Aishwarya actually wore brown contact for one of her movies, to darken her eyes for the character, and there her eyes looked fake with those brown contacts. :D

Ok... so you are saying that in the pictures when she was a baby to a little girl she was wearing brown contacts?

I'm saying her baby pics were Sephia processed.

Sephia creates a partial greyscale effect on color photos.

(Subdues color points like little pupils/eyes)

Oh OK

Vanessa Williams and the actor guy have a heavy degree of Caucasian and other non black mixed blood. The Africans with blue eyes suffer from some kind of rare eye genetic disorder which makes their eyes blue.

Hmmm but what is non black? African Americans can't claim being African... so what would that make Black people. I think that being an African American "black person" means that you have some African ancestors and ancestors from other races also. I don't believe that there is any pure race because every race is somewhat diluted.And history itself proves it.

Yeah look at Oprah. Isn't she part chinese and native american or something?

LOL No I don't think so... but she could have some Chinese or native American ancestors. Hmmm I will research that and get back to you.

LOL No I don't think so....but she could have some Chinese or native American ancestors. Hmmm I will research that and get back to you.

Lol Sweet, please do! :)

(... yeah I giggled after I wrote 'Chinese' and pictured Oprah :D But hey you never know... to me she doesn't really look African she has that African American Creole look, imho)

Nooooo. Golden Boy you are totally not crazy for suggesting she's chinese. Naomi Campbell is part Japanese! Who would have thought that?

I saw on a African American Lives (PBS) show that Oprah Winfrey does have some Asian ancestry.

Nooooo. Golden Boy you are totally not crazy for suggesting she's chinese. Naomi Campbell is part Japanese! Who would have thought that?!

Good save! So its not just Oprah, thanks! :)

You guys is it true? the reason why it is said African Americans have significant nativeam or asian blood in them is because mostly male nativeam, chinese, japanese, and vietnamese came over and work in the fields with the existing mostly AA women and made babies with them!



I saw on a African American Lives (PBS) show that Oprah Winfrey does have some Asian ancestry.

Cool it would be awesome to find out exactly where in her family tree and what country in Asia, there are sooo many ethnicities (China alone has over 50 ethnicities)!




hi am new here. last few days i have been reading product reviews about skin lightening .
but know one thinks postive always thinking negative anyway just to let you know Fair and Lovely does work i've been using it for 14years and still using the cream and its the best fairness cream on market. use it for long time you will see great result plus it doesnt harm your skin at all. using this cream made me pale white . in summer my skin is pink in winter my face is chin red and nose in a way what am trying to say its the best cream on the market and it works. when i used it first time it took only weeks to see result dont forget dark skin will take time and if you are yellow skin use it u will see the result in no time .just dont use it for week and say or doesnt work and then move to another you need to have trust it will work. and the price is best they have beaten nur76. Fair and Lovely cream is the no 1 each tube cost you only £3. look at the diffrence nur 76 is £97 tube size are 30g each and Fair and Lovely tube 25g is £3 +pp so Fair and Lovely is best not just the price but the product aswell take my advise use Fair and Lovely see the result your skin will glow in dark and your skin will look so beautiful. hope this help and dont forget this does not have any harmfull bleach or etc

Be careful Mikey!

F&L is reputed to have a trace mercury that can build up over time causes some sort of stain

De-brownification - Ultrabrown (http://www.ultrabrown.com/posts/de-brownification)

...Without having to deal with vitiligo patches or the like, of course.

I have never seen anyone at all other than Vitiligo victims and MJ who wore chalky makeup all over his body.

So is it really possible. I just looked at the Makari video and those people who use it and work there look extremely dark brown, not light by any means. The fair and flawless woman also looks dark.

Personally I consider a complexion a minimum of Aishwarya Rai, and lighter, "fair" or light. And she's not that fair at all, rather wheat-complected, no?

Wonder if she uses anything?? LOL

http://desi-galaxy.sabza.org/wp-content/aishwarya-beautiful.jpg

She's gorgeous.. I do think that the lighter eye color jumps out more in the darker skins.

I'm sure A.R. does use some great products, aestheticians, & dermadocs. I think there's some overlap with great skin care (that celebs and newly wealthy often shift too) and perceived lightening.

On other boards I've read sooo much that this or that celeb is "bleaching" but I'm guessing in most cases they're getting improved exfoliation, nutrition, and sun protection.

I left home for uni and an old high school classmate asked if I'd done something. No, my school was a total wintry nightmare and I rarely saw the sun for months. My home area is pretty sunny year 'round so you can stay tan or sun damaged forever without care.

Now with the products and sunscreen vigilance, my husband is teasing me with MJ allusions but the reality is that it's only a kind of archaeological dig back to my natural color. The other plusses are more of a glow, less spots, an overall younger look (I'm oldish so this is starting to matter to me:cool:).

______

I'm rambling but yes, I think that wheatish is considered pretty fair for most Afro-mix (depends on the family though) people.

One of my friends from Fiji was a bit darker than this girl
http://z.hubpages.com/u/1630570_f260.jpg

And she felt and called herself really dark. To African Americans I think it would be considered medium to lightish (unless your family is really colorist & hardcore light breeding)

Each brown culture seems to have it's own little quirks.

I never knew Oprah had asian ancestors. I knew about Naomi Campbell, she has Jamaican and some Japanese roots. The same for Tyson Beckford he has Chinese, Jamaican, and Panamanian. I still consider them as black, but you can see it in the eyes the way they are shaped.

LOL Golden sis & Brown! :p


She's gorgeous.. I do think that the lighter eye color jumps out more in the darker skins.

I'm sure A.R. does use some great products, aestheticians, & dermadocs. I think there's some overlap with great skin care (that celebs and newly wealthy often shift too) and perceived lightening.

On other boards I've read sooo much that this or that celeb is "bleaching" but I'm guessing in most cases they're getting improved exfoliation, nutrition, and sun protection.

I left home for uni and an old high school classmate asked if i'd done something. No, my school was a total wintery nightmare and i rarely saw the sun for months. My home area is pretty sunny year 'round so you can stay tan or sun damaged forever without care.

Now with the products and sunscreen vigilance, my husband is teasing me with MJ allusions but the reality is that it's only a kind of archaeological dig back to my natural color. The other plusses are more of a glow, less spots, an overall younger look (I'm oldish so this is starting to matter to me:cool:).

______

I'm rambling but yes, I think that wheatish is considered pretty fair for most Afro-mix (depends on the family though) people.

One of my friends from Fiji was a bit darker than this girl
http://z.hubpages.com/u/1630570_f260.jpg

and she felt and called herself really dark. To African Americans i think it would be considered medium to lightish (unless your family is really colorist & hardcore light breeding)

Each brown culture seems to have it's own little quirks.


^ Interesting, your comment about Fiji friend reminded me of Tiger Woods, who doesn't self-identify as being 'black':

Tiger Woods said he wasn't actually "black" at all -- he was "Cablinasian."

Woods made his remarks on "Oprah," when he was asked if it bothered him to be called an African-American. "It does," he said. "Growing up, I came up with this name: I'm a 'Cablinasian.'" As in Caucasian-black-Indian-Asian. Woods has a black father (or to be precise, if I am interpreting Woods' reported ancestry correctly, a half-black, one-quarter American Indian, one-quarter white father) and a Thai mother (or, with the same caveat, a half-Thai, half-Chinese mother).

http://www.intotherough.co.uk/assets/_files/images/feb_09/itr__1235647290_Tiger_Woods,_Elin_Nordegren_&_.jpg


And Tiger Woods, in turn, reminds me of Pres. OBAMA, who does identifies as "black", but happens to be lighter than Tiger (in comparison)

"Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian, that from his mother. "America's first African-American president"'s father is ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro - a maternal great-grandparent (Sen. Obama's great-great grandparent, thus the 6.25% ethnic contribution to the senator's ethnic composition.).

That means that Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/03/31/obama_family.jpg

notice Obama is strikingly lighter than all the rest in his family! :eek:

Well he's half white. What the hell did you expect?

well he's half white. What the hell did you expect?

:p

Mmmm... Obama is sooo fine!! Michelle is a blessed woman to have such a fine, and wonderful man.. I would trade places with her any day. Besides, I like Obama far more than Tiger Woods. Tiger is just annoying to me.

But, with Tiger Woods saying he is "Cablinasian", lets see what would happen to him if he said mess like that 150 years ago. They would still beat him on his back and tell him to keep picking cotton in the fields. And it still didn't stop that other golfer a few years back from saying his racial insulting slur "Tiger needs to go back home and eat some fried chicken and collard greens".. or something like that he said. That's like me going around saying I am a "Ethio-indi-acan because my mom is 1/2 cherokee and half black and my dad is full Ethiopian mix w/arab" (Ethiopian, Black American, and Cherokee Indian). I am very proud of all of my roots, but at the end of the day I look black, I'm treated black, so I say I'm black. Many if not all of us are mixed with something whether we know it or not.

Oh, and that seller from earlier I hope never comes back... lol

Mmmm....Obama is sooo fine!!! Michelle is a blessed woman to have such a fine, and wonderful man..I would trade places with her any day. Besides, I like Obama far more than Tiger Woods. Tiger is just annoying to me.

But, with Tiger Woods saying he is "Cablinasian", lets see what would happen to him if he said mess like that 150 years ago. They would still beat him on his back and tell him to keep picking cotton in the fields. And it still didn't stop that other golfer a few years back from saying his racial insulting slur "Tiger needs to go back home and eat some fried chicken and collard greens"..or something like that he said. That's like me going around saying I am a "Ethio-indi-acan because my mom is 1/2 cherokee and half black and my dad is full Ethiopian mix w/arab" (Ethiopian, Black American, and Cherokee Indian). I am very proud of all of my roots, but at the end of the day I look black, I'm treated black, so I say I'm black. Many if not all of us are mixed with somthing whether we know it or not.

Oh, and that seller from earlier I hope never comes back...lol


That's my sis, sistah! :)


& the more mix, the merrier! :) Because mix is the opposite of inbred.

I can hardly believe Tiger's mom is Chinese Thai, wow he hardly shows any.. I thought he was Fijian with African. He used to just say he's "asian".

I guess he doesn't like being assumed just "black" as if its plain or something? Keeps him exotic. Well, his kids will look exotic. His wife is such a contrast with him! :cool:

Obama, well I doubt most Americans have a clue he's basically half Arab and half White.

And only 6% African!

Lol... for him to say he is just "asian" is just stupid, as it is obvious he doesn't look in the mirror as much then. It sounds like he may have been ashamed somehow. To me I think his father should have had him see a shrink to deal with his self-identity crises. We are all mixed one way or another, and it would be kind of confusing if everyone started walking around creating their own races for themselves and then their kids creating new names for themselves. I find every race and culture intriguing and unique.

I don't like Tiger Woods.

Blasian might have been more appropriate since it's a recognized term... there are so many Bla's.

WHY THEY'RE HUNTING THE TIGER; Black fury over 'Asian' Woods.(Sport) - The Mirror (London, England) | Encyclopedia.com (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-65303313.html)

LOL Golden sis & Brown! :p




^ Interesting, ur comment about Fiji friend reminded me of Tiger Woods, who doesn't self-identify as being 'black':

Tiger Woods said he wasn't actually "black" at all -- he was "Cablinasian."

Woods made his remarks on "Oprah," when he was asked if it bothered him to be called an African-American. "It does," he said. "Growing up, I came up with this name: I'm a 'Cablinasian.'" As in Caucasian-black-Indian-Asian. Woods has a black father (or to be precise, if I am interpreting Woods' reported ancestry correctly, a half-black, one-quarter American Indian, one-quarter white father) and a Thai mother (or, with the same caveat, a half-Thai, half-Chinese mother).

http://www.intotherough.co.uk/assets/_files/images/feb_09/itr__1235647290_Tiger_Woods,_Elin_Nordegren_&_.jpg


And Tiger Woods, in turn, reminds me of Pres. OBAMA, who does identifies as "black", but happens to be lighter than Tiger (in comparison)

"Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian, that from his mother. "America's first African-American president"'s father is ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro - a maternal great-grandparent (Sen. Obama's great-great grandparent, thus the 6.25% ethnic contribution to the senator's ethnic composition.).

That means that Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/03/31/obama_family.jpg

notice Obama is strikingly lighter than all the rest in his family!! :eek:

Oprah had her DNA ancestry test done to check her tribal heritage she was classifies as Bamileke tribe in Cameroon, and she is a distant cousin to elvis's daughter so she does have some other ethnic traits in her but she is black what is the difference,look at her baby pics and you will see that she look darker with the money she make now she better look good, she does not look creole just because a black women or a black person is successful does not mean that they have to have another race in them,
Obama's father was just as dark as the men you see in those pics, his father is African, oh yeah and black people do have blue eyes and it's not a genetic disorder. I am African and when I went home to visit I saw this myself. Even there some of the natives had oval shaped chinese eyes and european looking noses it did not make them less Black.

I agree with you Diva. For some blacks to have blue or any other different colored eyes can be a variety of reasons of why the color of their eyes are the way that they are. Not necessarily a disorder, but can be normal as well. To classify it as a disorder is like saying all colored eyes of all races are a disorder a well. That also includes the nose shape, slanted or full eyes, skin color, height, shape of lips, etc. Black people are the most diverse in features and complexions, mixed and not mixed a like. I believe that has very much do to with first ancestors which later lead to more diverse races through out history.

I would love to get my DNA ancestry test done someday, I think it would be great for everyone to have. We would be quite surprised. I think Oprah is pretty when she has makeup on and also when she was very young.

I think it is more of a challenge for a woman to maintain her new lightened complexion with skin lighteners and/or peels because if she becomes pregnant or breastfeed, the instructions will say not to and/or must speak with your doctor because it can cause harm to the child. So, it would take about 9-20 months before she can relighten..

Also most majority Americans asked, also assume she's wearing color contacts.

They think Indian = almost Black ..

I guess

:confused:

You know I got to comment.. LOL.. not to pick on you.. but Black people have lots of mixes too... just like Indian.. and many Indian people, desi, hindi.. etc.. Are often far darker than many people who are considered black... I think that dark is dark, and it shouldn't matter what area of the world that darkness originated from...

Now I'm not singling you out cause you didn't say anything about this or imply anything negative, but the world tends to give a boost to non-african shades of "Blackness" on the social hiearchy and I think it's just unfair and separates people even more.. A huge majority of people of indian background are darker than I am.. to the point that if they had different hair, they would be thought african...

Vanessa Williams and the actor guy have a heavy degree of Caucasion and other non black mixed blood. The Africans with blue eyes suffer from some kind of rare eye genetic disorder which makes their eyes blue.

Not always... while some people have genetic disorders while there are people who just have a genetic sequence for blue colored eyes,. not all people with blue eyes have to have caucasian genes.. it's just super rare... I studied this for a while in a few of my clasees in college and was amazed to learn it. Green, hazel and other colors were stated as being more likely to be due to mixing but there was something about the blue sequence that made it unique and therefore non-exclusive of a particular race although it is of course more prevalent in causcasians.

The study covered indigenous people with blue eyes (with no history of mixing) and tracing DNA sequences proved that this was just a super recessive gene in all of them... thus showing that Blue eyes were not indicative of racial mixing in some cases

Yes when someone is african-american with blue eyes they might have a white ancestor somewhere but when someone is pure african and has blue eyes that is proof blue eyes gene does not only happen in caucasians.

I am "Black" but my father is a full blooded irish white man, far as I know. I hardly explain I am biracial, I consider myself simply Black.

I came out looking Beyonce's color, sometimes they say in my family I got the dominant black genes, though. My sister who has a softer hair and narrower nose, and lighter skin often passes for latina or straight up white with a tan when she straightens softens and lightens her hair.

I agree. My older sister has fair skin, greenish-grey eyes, and blond hair because she takes after our grandfather who has the same characteristics. My brothers look similar to my mom whose 1/2 cherokee and 1/2 black. I mostly take after my dad and grandmother with Ethiopian features. It makes me mad when people say she must not be my sister because of the differences, other than that we look a lot alike.

It's just pure ignorane. Me and my sisters look nothing alike and yes it tends to be the norm that families do tend to look similar but as we come from 2 parents who have their own genes, then there may be so many permuatations as to the outcome of their children. I remember meeting my brother's girlfriend who made a big deal about me being so much lighter than my sisters, like it was impossible. I know that I have used lightening products, but I was always lighter than them and I am very careful in the sun, whereas they are quite comfortable getting a tan.

People and races are all mixed up and you don't know what your offspring is going to look like. I know MANY black people that have very light eyes, I've dated a few black men with, green, grey and light brown eyes.

I changed my eye colour premanently when I lightened my skin. And also some skin lighners lighten the eyes, i.e mono

So how did you change your eye colour ? Did you have that eye surgery that I have seen mentioned before?

I would like to know too Lighterrr. Were you not a bit afraid of the eye surgery? Also what color did you chose to get and I never heard of the change in eye color by using mono?

Yes lighterrr tell me how you managed to change the colour of your eyes without the use of contact lenses

I would like to know too Lighterrr. Were you not a bit afraid of the eye surgery? Also what color did you chose to get and I never heard of the change in eye color by using mono?

Me neither. And as for the eye surgery,, WELL, I have seen them doing corrective laser treatment for short/long sightedness and that scares the CR*P out of me. I mean, they peel back the lens to allow the lasers to work... Yuck... and as for the device to keep your eye open... All looks like torture to me. I have a real thing about eyes... Can watch all kinds of surgery but hate anything about eyes! :eek:

I know. I thought of getting the laser surgery to correct my vision years ago. But, then when I learened the process of how it's done and that they will not sedate me, I chose to stick with contacts and glasses until maybe another 20 years? About the eyecolor surgery, I read some articles on patients having it done by unsatisfactory doctors overseas and almost lost their vision and saw some of the pics where the people's eyes were an almost neon abnormal blue color which was improperly done. I would be too afraid to have it done.

Yes lighterr how did you change your eye color without either contacts or surgery?

My roomie got lasik then was going to get NewIris but cancelled and now they won't refund the deposit.

I saw the photos on the NewIris site, the new eye colors on the patients do not look 100% authentic, there are colored contacts that can look more genuine. Possibly in a few years time the implants quality may improve more.

Lighterrr are you going to let us know how you permanently lightened your eyes and what color are they now? It's been weeks?

She just wants us to wonder?

@ Golden Girl - I am an individual who lived in Bandra the suburban part of Mumbai.

I happened to have lived rather close to her house... in the adjacent building. I have also been a part of media relations and have seen her quite a few times... even without makeup..

She also happened to study in Arya Mandir - a school that always invited my dad to guest lecture since years primarily because he is from the saraswat brahmin aryan race community .

My dad always stated that she was a light skinned girl and always got attention in school as well.

Whenever, I did see her, she was always HIGH YELLOW light... Its not odd for high yellow flavoured Indians to look darker on camera or due to less lighting... She is not white and never white like kareena kapoor or anything..

But she has always been HIGH YELLOW since the very beginning.. In the miss world she does look dakrer.. but htats the regular light indian colour hwen put next to caucaisnas ends up looking dark anyway...

Besides I believe she used tan makeup in the contest to look exotic...

If you see the miss india contest then.. there were times they put the girls in natural light and this woman was lighter than most out there...

I won't deny maybe she might be trying to lighten more now... but she has always been LIGHT YELLOW..

Btw... why don't ever people comment about MADHURI DIXITS lightening??

I mean in her early days she was DARK BROWN to MEDIUM BROWN..

And in dil to pagal hai she actually lukd AS LIGHT as the WHITE KARISMA KAPOOR??

Now that was a change. And she has been light sinc ehtat time... althou she was dark before those times...


Hasn't anyone noticed that??

Aish was anyway always light... and my eyes wouldn't deceive my colour obsessed self..

my dad to guest lecture since years primarily because he is from the saraswat brahmin aryan race community .
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Hello Gorgeous are you male, female? So are you at lest half brahmin aryan race, by your dad? Do you look so fair like them? I have noticed most brahmin aryan indians have not just the white skin colour but more caucasian nose, face shape as well. How do you look, what is the other half?
Can you post your photo or tell me how you are complected and featured compare to Aishwarya?

@Imgorgeous, you mean Aishwarya? Yeah I heard she was light when she was younger as well, wish I could see her childhood pics. She does tan easily, but I think shese prettier when she is tanned. I love Madhuri Dixit, I don't know how she looked before but she is a great dancer.

So, where's Gorgeous?Banned too?
So many buyers have been banned, its not funny. Loooks like this site is becoming the Nikki forum :(

Yeah,it doesn't look good at all! At least the bad ones are being weeded out lol

yeah,it doesn't look good at all! at least the bad ones are being weeded out lol

I don't know about that, it seems more of the good ones are gone and everything else is just becoming corrupt? Imgorgeous nolonger has a way of being contacted. Although sometimes he could be insensitive, but he was a good person to have here and humorous. I'm getting tiered, I don't know.

About the colored eye implants, I doubt anyone here has ever had that procedure done let alone going to Panama, just all talk.

Pres Obama is not half Arab. In fact he is no where near being Arab. His father was from Kenya and Kenya isn't an Arab country it is an African country and there's a huge difference between African Arab countries and African countries.

Pres Obama is not half Arab. in fact he is no where near being Arab. His father was from Kenya and Kenya isn't an Arab country it is an African country and there's a huge difference between African Arab countries and African countries.


Lol Yeah tell me about it,
I am also same complexion as Barack Obama,
And Im half arab lebanon and half somalian.

Lol Yeah tell me about it,
I am also same complexion as Barack Obama,
and Im half arab lebanon and half somalian.

Beautiful mix. Somalians look very similar to Ethiopians, I'm part Ethio (Amhara)

beautiful mix. Somalians look very similar to Ethiopians, I'm part Ethio (Amhara)

Oh okay, nice you guys are beautiful too