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twinkiedooter
Sep 25, 2009, 06:21 PM
Don't know how to do a "poll" so I'll just ask this

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year?

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the series of swine flu shots this year?

Have you or any of your family members ever had a flu shot and got very ill a week or so later with the worst flu you ever had?

My son and I are not planning on getting either flu shots this year or any year. We both had seasonal flu shots about 14 years ago and we both got extremely ill with bad flu symptoms about a week after the shots. We were very ill for about 3 weeks.

How about you? What are you planning on doing this fall?

firmbeliever
Sep 25, 2009, 06:26 PM
Twink,
The poll option is a bit below.. way below " Manage Attachments".

paraclete
Sep 25, 2009, 06:46 PM
Don't know how to do a "poll" so I'll just ask this

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year?

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the series of swine flu shots this year?

Have you or any of your family members ever had a flu shot and got very ill a week or so later with the worst flu you ever had?

My son and I are not planning on getting either flu shots this year or any year. We both had seasonal flu shots about 14 years ago and we both got extremely ill with bad flu symptoms about a week after the shots. We were very ill for about 3 weeks.

How about you? What are you planning on doing this fall?

Missed the seasonal flu shot this year but will definitely get the H1N1 shot. I have not experienced any problems with previous flu shots but then I did have a very bad case of flu as a child and it may have given me some immunity. If you have risk factors it is not worth the risk of adding to them.

paraclete
Sep 25, 2009, 06:55 PM
Swine Flu Expose by Eleanora I. McBean, Ph.D., N.D. (http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf.html)

Did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years

speechlesstx
Sep 26, 2009, 05:14 AM
The wife and I always get a flu shot. Not sure if we'll do the swine flu shot or not but probably. And I'm sure your illness after getting the shots was coincidental, you cannot get the flu from a flu shot as the virus in the vaccine is dead. You can get mild symptoms however as a result of the shot. On the other hand the nasal version uses a weakened virus so don't go that route if you're over 50 or have a weakened immune system.

J_9
Sep 26, 2009, 02:57 PM
did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years

I mentioned that date in another thread.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-health-wellness/h1n1-swine-flu-394190.html

I've already gotten my flu shot.

You know, the flu shot made these days is made from a DEAD virus. You CAN't get sick from it. If you get sick you were already infected prior to getting the shot.

Yes, I am the local flu shot nurse as well as the L&D nurse.

Stringer
Sep 26, 2009, 03:55 PM
We have never gotten sick from a flu shot and we have been getting it for the last ten years or so.

We both have gotten one this year and plan to get the H1N1 or swine flu shot as soon as it is available.

I have some respiratory problems and don't want to take the chance by not getting it...

Stringer

J_9
Sep 26, 2009, 05:11 PM
Years ago the flu shot was made with either a live virus or an attinuated virus, these days it is made with a laboratory produced strain with a dead virus.

I discuss this with virtually every person I give the shot to during October and November.

You can be exposed to the flu virus and it takes 10 or more days to show symptoms. Now, if you have been exposed and during the incubation period you get the shot, of course you are still going to get sick. That has nothing to do with the shot, but rather the prior exposure to the virus.

twinkiedooter
Sep 26, 2009, 06:21 PM
did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years

Yes, I am quite aware that this article was from 1977. I can post different articles if you want from this past summer if you are concerned about how "out of date" this article is. In any event, it does contain a lot of information on virus and vaccination and is quite relevant even today.

Wondergirl
Sep 26, 2009, 06:25 PM
I can post different articles if you want from this past summer if you are concerned about how "out of date" this article is.
Yes, please post them if they are from reputable sources.

twinkiedooter
Sep 26, 2009, 06:52 PM
Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine (http://www.naturalnews.com/z026717_swine_flu_flu_vaccine_swine_flu_vaccine.ht ml)

former vaccine development scientist speaks out on the dangers and ineffectuality of vaccination (http://www.alternative-doctor.com/vaccination/rappaport.htm)

Vactruth.com

How's that for starters for 2009?

Also, whoever made up the poll for me (thank you) you forgot to add an option of NO, I am not taking any flu shots. Could you please add that in for me?

Wondergirl
Sep 26, 2009, 07:24 PM
How's that for starters for 2009?
Reputable sources, please.

twinkiedooter
Sep 26, 2009, 07:29 PM
YouTube - Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw)

Stringer
Sep 26, 2009, 07:37 PM
So J what is your opinion on this Swine Flu Shot?

J_9
Sep 27, 2009, 09:45 AM
I have edited the poll to include "Neither"

Twinkie... the links you have provided above are NOT from reputable sources.

This would be considered a reputable source

CDC H1N1 Flu | Questions & Answers Novel H1N1 Influenza Vaccine (http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/public/vaccination_qa_pub.htm)

As well as this one

FDA Approves Vaccines for 2009 H1N1 Influenza Virus (http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm182399.htm)

Stringer, my opinion on the H1N1 vaccination has been made very clear. It should be taken by anyone that is in the high risk category, such as pregnant women, young children, people in the health care field where they will be exposed, people with immuno deficiencies, etc.

While I admire and respect Twinkie very much, I think she is attempting to start a panic where the vaccine is concerned. Vaccines have cured many past illnesses such as smallpox and polio just to name two.

I will be giving the vaccine to my children (as youngsters under the age of 25 fall into the high risk group), and will be taking it myself as I work in the medical field with pregnant women who also fall under the high risk group.

Remember people, don't panic... it's JUST a flu. More people die yearly from the regular ole seasonal flu.

J_9
Sep 27, 2009, 09:50 AM
Another reliable source

JAMA -- CDC Names H1N1 Vaccine Priority Groups, September 16, 2009, Kuehn 302 (11): 1157 (http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/302/11/1157?home)

shazamataz
Sep 27, 2009, 09:58 AM
I have voted for "neither"

This is because I am young, healthy and have not had any respiratory problems in the past.
I see no need for me to get the vaccine as I have also already had 'swine flu' making me partially immune.

I do not see these shots as being dangerous, in fact I think they are excellent for those who have had problems in the past or for the very young or elderly.

J_9
Sep 27, 2009, 10:00 AM
I have voted for "neither"

This is because I am young, healthy and have not had any respiratory problems in the past.
I see no need for me to get the vaccine as I have also already had 'swine flu' making me partially immune.

I do not see these shots as being dangerous, infact I think they are excellent for those who have had problems in the past or for the very young or elderly.

Shazzy, you are correct. You don't need the vaccine. Although my children have had a mild case of the H1N1 virus, my youngest son falls into a high risk category with asthma, he will be getting the shot.

**EDIT** another reputable source

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/

XOXOlove
Sep 27, 2009, 10:05 AM
I'm not getting the shot either. I have never had the flu or the flu shot.

shazamataz
Sep 27, 2009, 11:48 AM
I thought so J_9, it's mainly targeted for those who already have respiratory issues (such as your sons asthma) and the eldery.

My grandmother will certainly be getting the flu shot, I shudder to think what would happen to her if she did not get the shot and then contracted H1N1 (she is almost 90)

Wondergirl
Sep 27, 2009, 12:05 PM
I thought so J_9, it's mainly targeted for those who already have respiratory issues (such as your sons asthma) and the eldery.
I had read that the healthy elderly are probably already immune to swine flu because of all the times they have already had the flu. Like J said, the populations that are most susceptible are those between 6-24 and those who have asthma or compromised immune systems.

J_9
Sep 27, 2009, 12:20 PM
I had read that the healthy elderly are probably already immune to swine flu

EXACTLY! I am immune also, since I was exposed as a child in the '70s. However, with the risk to my patients, I am going to make sure I get it so that they don't pass the new strain to me.

J_9
Sep 27, 2009, 12:21 PM
My grandmother will certainly be getting the flu shot, I shudder to think what would happen to her if she did not get the shot and then contracted H1N1 (she is almost 90)

The flu shot and the H1N1 shot are 2 totally different animals. Your grandmother should get the flu shot, but not the H1N1 shot.

Stringer
Sep 27, 2009, 12:26 PM
I have edited the poll to include "Neither"

Twinkie....the links you have provided above are NOT from reputable sources.

This would be considered a reputable source

CDC H1N1 Flu | Questions & Answers Novel H1N1 Influenza Vaccine (http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/public/vaccination_qa_pub.htm)

As well as this one

FDA Approves Vaccines for 2009 H1N1 Influenza Virus (http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm182399.htm)

Stringer, my opinion on the H1N1 vaccination has been made very clear. It should be taken by anyone that is in the high risk category, such as pregnant women, young children, people in the health care field where they will be exposed, people with immuno deficiencies, etc.

While I admire and respect Twinkie very much, I think she is attempting to start a panic where the vaccine is concerned. Vaccines have cured many past illnesses such as smallpox and polio just to name two.

I will be giving the vaccine to my children (as youngsters under the age of 25 fall into the high risk group), and will be taking it myself as I work in the medical field with pregnant women who also fall under the high risk group.

Remember people, don't panic.....it's JUST a flu. More people die yearly from the regular ole seasonal flu.

Ok, thanks J.

FlutterBye
Sep 27, 2009, 06:00 PM
Don't know how to do a "poll" so I'll just ask this

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year?

Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the series of swine flu shots this year?

Have you or any of your family members ever had a flu shot and got very ill a week or so later with the worst flu you ever had?

My son and I are not planning on getting either flu shots this year or any year. We both had seasonal flu shots about 14 years ago and we both got extremely ill with bad flu symptoms about a week after the shots. We were very ill for about 3 weeks.

How about you? What are you planning on doing this fall?


Ha, Ha!! First of all... you had a bad reaction to a "seasonal flu shot" 14 YEARS AGO! Have you, or your son, EVEN HAD A FLU SHOT SINCE then? BTW... the swine flu shot will be a SINGLE shot (for basically everyone except small babies) NOT a SERIES of shots! Check the facts... give it a Google! My Opinion Only..!

shazamataz
Sep 28, 2009, 03:19 AM
The flu shot and the H1N1 shot are 2 totally different animals. Your grandmother should get the flu shot, but not the H1N1 shot.

Oh OK, sorry, I don't know that much about it...
I just know she is getting some sort of flu shot, she does every flu season as far as I know.

twinkiedooter
Sep 28, 2009, 04:47 PM
Ha, Ha!!! First of all.....you had a bad reaction to a "seasonal flu shot" 14 YEARS AGO! Have you, or your son, EVEN HAD A FLU SHOT SINCE then? BTW...the swine flu shot will be a SINGLE shot (for basically everyone except small babies) NOT a SERIES of shots!! Check the facts....give it a google!! My Opinion Only.....!!

Yes, my son and I have both had the flu since 14 years ago. We have had the flu only not as bad as that particular 3 week illness. We take lots of Vitamin D to help ward off the flu and to lessen the symptoms if we do get the flu.

Also yes, some sites have suggested a series of H1N1 shots and not just one shot for the swine flu. Even my local TV news says you need up to 4 swine flu shots so I am not making this up. And also the infants under 6 months will not be getting these shots.

And no, I'm sorry. I don't consider the US government sites as being reputable. I don't trust the AMA or the CDC and especially the WHO as far as I can throw them. They are told what to say and write regardless if it is "harmful to the public" or not. It's been proven over and over again that the US Government is not for the populace.

I would not willingly put that squalene into my blood stream and also the excessive mercury and who knows what else they've put into this "vaccine". Squalene is okay if you eat it by mouth. But it is not okay if you inject it into your body. It causes the body's immune system to go haywire. It basically makes your body attack itself.


Thanks everyone who took my poll. I appreciate your participation.

J_9
Sep 28, 2009, 05:34 PM
Even my local tv news says you need up to 4 swine flu shots so I am not making this up. And also the infants under 6 months will not be getting these shots.


Your local TV news is WRONG... it's only 2 shots for those that are at risk.

paraclete
Sep 28, 2009, 06:35 PM
Your local TV news is WRONG...it's only 2 shots for those that are at risk.

It's all down to which vaccine you use, we are now down to one and if we really worked on it I bet we could get it down to none:D

twinkiedooter
Oct 4, 2009, 05:50 PM
J-9 I was not trying to "start a panic" about the vaccinations. I was just stating my opinion on the matter having done extensive reading.

It's not the dead or live flu in the vaccination that I object to - it's all the other additives in the shot that are my main concern. When is it safe to have mercury introduced into the human body when mercury is one of the most toxic substances there is? Plus the squalene? Plus who knows what else? All this and much, much more was personally explained to me by a former Biopreparat vaccine substance staff member. He had a lot to do with biowarfare. He is deceased due to extreme old age. He would happily introduce himself as "My name is So and So. I make diseases". And that is exactly WHAT he did. So I tend to believe this man compared to the CDC, WHO, AMA, FDA, etc, etc. Where this man worked one false move or prick with a syringe would mean either a lifetime of suffering or certain horrible death within hours or days. He was extremely careful every day and lived to talk about it.

I can well understand your stance about the smallpox, etc. but that is a thing of the past. We are now faced with a much more insidious attack on our collective human health welfare with vaccines of dubious origin and content.

What about all the Guardasil deaths and permanent injuries to young girls that is currently being covered up or trying to be covered up. I don't feel that those vaccinations were necessary in the first place, let alone safe for them.

inthebox
Oct 4, 2009, 07:37 PM
Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine ...[JAMA. 2003] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14519711)

I've gotten the seasonal flu shot already, have so for decades and never have gotten the flu.
I will get the swine flu vaccine also. I'm a healthcare worker so I'm getting these vaccines to protect others as much as to protect myself.

With any medicine or vaccination there are risks and benefits; ever read the potential side effects from aspirin or birth control pills?

Seen from an epidemiologic perspective, the risks of the vaccination are significantly less than the benefits; thus the recommendations for.

Twinkie, even in the YouTube link, the ID doctor put the risks as higher for certain population, and in the "consent" for the flu shot I received there were questions to idenify those who may be at higher risks from the vaccinations, those already with a fever, have had Guillian Barre in the past etc.


G&P

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 06:13 AM
Just got home from work. I was the first in my facility to receive the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine. There was a line at the door.

As IN mentioned this is not only for my protection, but for the health and welfare of my children and family as well as my patients.

The head of our surgery department had the virus 3 weeks ago... brought it home and gave it to her husband... he died a week later. I can't have that on my conscience since 2 of my children are in the high risk category.

excon
Oct 23, 2009, 06:44 AM
Hello:

I ain't getting it. Glenn Beck said that they're putting an RFID chip in me and they'll be able to track me all over the world...

Besides, Jews don't get flu from PIGS. It ain't kosher.

excon

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 06:46 AM
Pigs ain't kosher... neither is the swine flu... can't get it from eatin' pork. Ya get it from people breathin' on you.

RFID chip? LMAO... guess I'll be tracked forever!!

spitvenom
Oct 23, 2009, 06:56 AM
Glenn Beck is nuts there is no RFID chip in Flu shots. Everyone knows they put a mind control drug in flu shots to make you want to go out and buy things. Hence why you get it around the holidays. Homer Simpson uncovered this conspiracy years ago :p


But I never get the flu shot. My wife said I am not social enough to worry about catching the flu from someone since I hate being around people.

tomder55
Oct 23, 2009, 06:56 AM
I thought the vaccine used an inhaler... or is that just an option ?
Hard to inject that radio chip when you are snorting the vaccine

tomder55
Oct 23, 2009, 06:58 AM
flu shots to make you want to go out and buy things. Hence why you get it around the holidays

One thing I'm sure to buy is a big fat holiday ham.

NeedKarma
Oct 23, 2009, 06:59 AM
Got my flu shot yesterday. The H1N1 is arriving here next week I believe, haven't decided if I'll get that one as well.

NeedKarma
Oct 23, 2009, 07:00 AM
Glenn Beck is nuts
That's really all you needed to say. We are all in agreement there. :)

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 07:02 AM
The inhaled version is a live/atinuated (attenuated vaccine a vaccine prepared from live microorganisms or viruses cultured under adverse conditions leading to loss of their virulence but retention of their ability to induce protective immunity) virus while the shot is an inactivated vaccine.

tomder55
Oct 23, 2009, 07:07 AM
The inhaled version is a live/atinuated (attenuated vaccine a vaccine prepared from live microorganisms or viruses cultured under adverse conditions leading to loss of their virulence but retention of their ability to induce protective immunity) virus while the shot is an inactivated vaccine.

Is there an advantage to taking one or the other ? Or is it a matter of availability ?

excon
Oct 23, 2009, 07:08 AM
The inhaled version is a live/atinuated (attenuated vaccine a vaccine prepared from live microorganisms or viruses cultured under adverse conditions leading to loss of their virulence but retention of their ability to induce protective immunity) virus while the shot is an inactivated vaccine.Hello again, J:

In other words, you catch a mild version of the flu - hopefully.

excon

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 07:12 AM
In talking to our infectious disease nurse this morning, she prefers the shot versus the inhaled version. The reason is actually simple. With the shot you are given a DEAD version of the virus, but your body is still able to build immunities without getting symptoms of the flu. While the inhaled version is still considered to be a live virus and the risks of getting symptoms is just a little higher. Treatment for both is the same... Tylenol every 4 hours is preferred with or without symptoms for the first 24 hours.

With a dead virus (the shot) your body does not react in the same defensive way that the inhaled (attenuated) vaccine does. With the shot your body's defenses don't come out and fight the virus whereas the inhaled version it does.


Hello again, J:

In other words, you catch a mild version of the flu - hopefully.

excon

Nope, not with the shot version. If you end up catching the flu, that means you have already been exposed... but with the inhaled version the risk of a mild version is slightly higher.

pickandgrin
Oct 23, 2009, 07:47 AM
My experience:

In 1976, there was a big government campaign to get everyone vaccinated with the swine flu shot. I took it as did several members of my family. It contained live virus and it made me sicker for longer than I've ever been before or since. No one else in my family got sick. Nor did anyone else I knew. Even the ones who didn't get the shot.

Since then, I worked in a health care facility for 9 years. I was pressured by management to take the seasonal flu shot every year so I did. I got the flu every flu season that I worked there. I have since left the health care environment and have not gotten any flu shot. It's been 5 years and I haven't gotten the flu until now.

I am currently recovering from what I'm pretty sure is H1N1. I've commiserated with friends who have had the test and been positively diagnosed with H1N1. And I received a letter in the mail this week from the local County Health Department declaring that their studies indicate that 98% of the flu in this county is H1N1.

It wasn't the worst flu I've ever had. My fever was low grade and my discomfort was moderate. It did put me down for longer than flu normally does. And it seems to be hanging on longer than I would otherwise expect. I do not fall into a group that has been categorized as “High Risk” so I anticipate full recovery in another week or so.

Since I've already had H1N1, I certainly won't be getting that one. I'm somewhat undecided about the seasonal flu shot. The shots usually give me a headache and I don't have any quantitative evidence that they actually work for me. Actually, my experience makes me view the expert advise as somewhat dubious.

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 07:58 AM
My experience:

In 1976, there was a big government campaign to get everyone vaccinated with the swine flu shot. I took it as did several members of my family. It contained live virus and it made me sicker for longer than I’ve ever been before or since. No one else in my family got sick. Nor did anyone else I knew. Even the ones who didn’t get the shot.

Since then, I worked in a health care facility for 9 years. I was pressured by management to take the seasonal flu shot every year so I did. I got the flu every flu season that I worked there. I have since left the health care environment and have not gotten any flu shot. It’s been 5 years and I haven’t gotten the flu until now.

I am currently recovering from what I’m pretty sure is H1N1. I’ve commiserated with friends who have had the test and been positively diagnosed with H1N1. And I received a letter in the mail this week from the local County Health Department declaring that their studies indicate that 98% of the flu in this county is H1N1.

It wasn’t the worst flu I’ve ever had. My fever was low grade and my discomfort was moderate. It did put me down for longer than flu normally does. And it seems to be hanging on longer than I would otherwise expect. I do not fall into a group that has been categorized as “High Risk” so I anticipate full recovery in another week or so.

Since I’ve already had H1N1, I certainly won’t be getting that one. I’m somewhat undecided about the seasonal flu shot. The shots usually give me a headache and I don’t have any quantitative evidence that they actually work for me. Actually, my experience makes me view the expert advise as somewhat dubious.

My advice may be dubious to you, but you are no longer in the high risk category. You are not:

* 6 months through 24 years of age
* Pregnant?
* Someone who lives with or cares for an infant younger than 6 months of age
* Health care and/or emergency medical personnel
* OR possibly, anyone 25 years through 64 years of age with certain chronic medical conditions or a weakened immune system.


The above are the CDC's guidelines as to who SHOULD get the vaccine.

1976 was 33 years ago... There have been tremendous advances made since then.

pickandgrin
Oct 23, 2009, 08:21 AM
My advice may be dubious to you, but you are no longer in the high risk category. You are not:

* 6 months through 24 years of age
* Pregnant?
* Someone who lives with or cares for an infant younger than 6 months of age
* Health care and/or emergency medical personnel
* OR possibly, anyone 25 years through 64 years of age with certain chronic medical conditions or a weakened immune system.


The above are the CDC's guidelines as to who SHOULD get the vaccine.

1976 was 33 years ago... There have been tremendous advances made since then.

1. When I chose the words "expert advise" I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was talking about the community of advisers (outside of this forum)who have touted the benefits of these shots for years. My apologies to you or anyone else who interpreted it to mean I was specifically targeting you.

2. If you read my post carefully, you'll see that I clearly indicated that I was not a member of the "High Risk" population.

3. I also clearly stated that the 1976 shot contained live virus. I know that things have changed. I take exception to your implication that I don't.

4. The post was a description of MY EXPERIENCE and I didn't advise anyone to take or not take any action.

Wondergirl
Oct 23, 2009, 10:12 AM
Also, the H1N1 vaccine is only one of the many vaccines developed during the past 60 years. It is not a hastily-thrown-together vaccine.

earl237
Oct 23, 2009, 11:35 AM
Does anyone know if it is safe to get both flu shots? I have been getting the seasonal one for over 15 years without a problem and would like to get both this year.

Wondergirl
Oct 23, 2009, 11:42 AM
Does anyone know if it is safe to get both flu shots? I have been getting the seasonal one for over 15 years without a problem and would like to get both this year.
It's safe, but you probably don't need the H1N1 unless you qualify as J9 described..

slapshot_oi
Oct 23, 2009, 12:03 PM
I've never had the flu shot. I live life by the seat of my pants.

The reputable Louis Farrakhan is suspicious of the H1N1 vaccine, thinks it might be engineered for genocide. That's why I'm not getting it.

tomder55
Oct 23, 2009, 03:52 PM
Screwy Louis said that ? Now I'm convinced !

slapshot_oi
Oct 23, 2009, 04:16 PM
screwy Louis said that ? now I'm convinced !
Hahaha

I just saw inside edition, I'm sure some of you heard about this woman, Desireie Jennings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7lCIp04YY). This guy edited the video at 2:03.

J_9
Oct 23, 2009, 06:04 PM
Does anyone know if it is safe to get both flu shots? I have been getting the seasonal one for over 15 years without a problem and would like to get both this year.

It is safe to get both. One of the nurses got one shot in each arm this morning. Left arm seasonal flu shot... Right arm H1N1.




The reputable Louis Farrakhan is suspicious of the H1N1 vaccine, thinks it might be engineered for genocide. That's why I'm not getting it.

Louis Farrakhan reputable :eek:? Did I just read this or is hallucinations a side effect of the vaccine I took this morning?

paraclete
Oct 26, 2009, 10:59 PM
For the benefit of the assembled company, I just had the H1N1 shot, No reaction, it didn't kill me and there are no black cars parked across the road monitoring my implant

Public health 1, paranoia nil.

You might wonder why, but I am, according to my doctor, in one of the high risk groups so it is advisable to take this medication as I might take any other medication.

Wondergirl
Oct 26, 2009, 11:05 PM
for the benefit of the assembled company, I just had the H1N1 shot, No reaction, it didn't kill me and there are no black cars parked across the road monitoring my implant
Please check in with us each day. If you begin to itch from the metals coursing through your bloodstream or feel the urge to call an official in Washington, DC, please let us know.

And, oh, we'll be watching you via hidden web cams.

paraclete
Oct 26, 2009, 11:16 PM
Please check in with us each day. If you begin to itch from the metals coursing through your bloodstream or feel the urge to call an official in Washington, DC, please let us know.

And, oh, we'll be watching you via hidden web cams.

No worries I probably get more mercury from the fish I eat and if my arm glows in the dark I'll let you know:)

ohsohappy
Oct 3, 2010, 09:27 PM
I posted a question like this one
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/medications/why-flu-vaccination-so-important-513251.html

I posted it before I saw this thread. Responses? Either on here or mine, preferably mine so I can keep straight who's talking to who. :)

paraclete
Oct 4, 2010, 12:07 AM
I posted a question like this one
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/medications/why-flu-vaccination-so-important-513251.html

I posted it before i saw this thread. Responses? Either on here or mine, preferably mine so I can keep straight who's talking to who. :)

Hi read your post and I will respond here. I have had both the H1N1 shot and the seasonal flu shot. My daughter and her family have been ill with the flu for weeks and she is just now beginning to recover, the symptoms are similar to H1N1 and Tamiflu was prescribed. I have been in and out of their home regularly during this time and no flu. I think the case is proven as far as I'm concerned.

twinkiedooter
Oct 4, 2010, 06:01 AM
Didn't get it last year and certainly will not get it this year. I take Vitamin D and other vitamins and did not get ill last year and certainly don't intend getting ill this year.

I don't think that the flu vaccines are safe period regardless of who is "feeding me the pap" about the supposedly "safe" flu vaccines. It's a great way to debilitate a person's system for years and possibly kill them (in my opinion that is). Why would good ole boy Bill Gates even mention the word "vaccines" when in the same sentence he mentions population elimination. Hmmmmmm.

J_9
Oct 4, 2010, 06:30 AM
Didn't get it last year and certainly will not get it this year. I take Vitamin D and other vitamins and did not get ill last year and certainly don't intend getting ill this year.

I don't think that the flu vaccines are safe period regardless of who is "feeding me the pap" about the supposedly "safe" flu vaccines. It's a great way to debilitate a person's system for years and possibly kill them (in my opinion that is). Why would good ole boy Bill Gates even mention the word "vaccines" when in the same sentence he mentions population elimination. Hmmmmmm.

And you subscribe to conspiracy theories? Let me guess you listen to Coast to Coast radio?

JoeCanada76
Oct 4, 2010, 04:39 PM
I am an advocate for flu shots , etc...

The benefits of flu shots for everybody involved is very important.

I will be getting both done, and making sure all my family gets it as well.

Also work in health care so it is very important for myself to be vaccinated.

JoeCanada76
Oct 4, 2010, 04:43 PM
I would also like to add that the people who do not get vaccinated put themselves at higher risk and their families of getting even sicker.

Flu vaccines have been around for many many years and are defiantly proven to be safe and have eradicated many diseases.

The diseases that are starting to pop up again from years ago, the only reason that is happening is people are deciding not to vaccinate anymore and that will cause more cases of these previous diseases to start making comebacks and start killing people.

It is the diseases that can kill people not the vaccine.

Wake up people.

Joe

JoeCanada76
Oct 4, 2010, 05:18 PM
I would also like to add here in Canada. The flu shot and H1N1 shot will be a combined shot this coming season. So it will be included automatically in the regular flu vaccine shot.

So it can be taken together, and all it is, is adding another type of strain to the vaccine which is what the flu shot is contained with different strains.

cdad
Oct 8, 2010, 06:46 PM
I would also like to add that the people who do not get vaccinated put themselves at higher risk and their families of getting even sicker.

Flu vaccines have been around for many many years and are defiantly proven to be safe and have eradicated many diseases.

The diseases that are starting to pop up again from years ago, the only reason that is happening is people are deciding not to vaccinate anymore and that will cause more cases of these previous diseases to start making comebacks and start killing people.

It is the diseases that can kill people not the vaccine.

Wake up people.

Joe


Ive never had one nor do I think I ever will. After all they have no idea what is actually going to happen. This is a best guess effort by medicine to prevent something based on a guess. Im also one that thinks the more sterile life you have the more likely you are to get sick because your immune system doesn't know how to handle attatcks.