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crisluvsu731
Aug 28, 2009, 04:51 PM
Why don't most guys like girls with meat on them? So many guys like the girls with no boobs, no butt, and no personality? But they have no meat. How is that sexy? What is wrong with girls who have curves? Just wondering, any input would be great!

jmjoseph
Aug 28, 2009, 05:12 PM
I love curves! No Olive Oyl for me!

crisluvsu731
Aug 28, 2009, 05:29 PM
I don't get it, olive oyl?

crisluvsu731
Aug 28, 2009, 05:32 PM
Oh, OK. I get it. So, how much meat is too much meat for you?

artlady
Aug 28, 2009, 05:37 PM
I live in a predominately African American neighborhood and believe me ,the black men I know love big curvy women with big butts especially!

jmjoseph
Aug 28, 2009, 05:44 PM
i dont get it, olive oyl?

Olive Oyl is Popeye's girlfriend. She's skinny as a pencil. Google her.

I love women ( only one now) with some meat on their bones.

none12345
Aug 28, 2009, 05:44 PM
Ima guy and I like a girl for her personality. It is what is inside that matters the most but to be honest I wouldn't mind having a girl with no meat as long as she is not overly skinny. Its because we would match better since I'm not very meaty myself. Just my thoughts and opinions. Hope it was an input.

none12345
Aug 28, 2009, 05:50 PM
Another thing is some guys don't like girls that are more meaty than them because it has something to do with being dominant as a guy. I THINK...

chuff
Aug 29, 2009, 08:08 AM
If I had to choose between a 75 skelaton and a 300 lb woman who will finish the meal I bought her, then I'm going with the 300 lbs girls.

Did you have one bad experience and are basing this off that by chance? I can only speak for me, but I've dated the all ranges of girls from looks to body size and personally I actually find dating super hot girls to be not worth my time. I find them to be self centered, large ego's, and have a sense of entitlement that you don't find with "normal" girls, which ironically makes the normal girls more attractive.

talaniman
Aug 29, 2009, 09:16 AM
I like 'em all! A good woman is just a good woman, no matter the package she comes wrapped in.

s_cianci
Aug 29, 2009, 09:32 AM
I love curves! No Olive Oyl for me!Same here!

nikosmom
Aug 29, 2009, 10:02 AM
I'm a curvy woman. Thick. Voluptuous. Whatever you want to call it. But I work what I have. Confidence is key. I dress in a way that is alluring yet compliments my features. Do I look nice - hell yeah. I'm not stuck up but I am confident. Not because of the way I look but more so because I know I have something to offer a man. In fact, many great things.

Read any of my posts. I'm smart. I'm kind. Have a great sense of humor. I've made many friends here because of my brain not because of my boobage.

Quick insight: I have a coworker who is rail thin; so thin that you can see her hip bones. Me- well I've been called "Curvalicious". (Yes, really. A guy gave me that name.) But we have a lot of people come in our office daily and she always wonders why they drool over me. I always say, "I dunno, I think they like my personality."

So thin, thick, or anything in between- most men prefer the "complete package" regardless of the frame.

paxe
Aug 29, 2009, 10:51 AM
I prefer thin women and I know most guy do. It's easier to change the way you look than to change how men like women :D. Looks are important but they are not everything.

A lot of times I turn down gorgeous women because I haven't made a connection with, even down they are perfect physically. Sometimes I get connected with less beautiful women but who have great character. Charm and character are extremely important for me, and I would say most guys.

Jake2008
Aug 29, 2009, 11:02 AM
Why don't most guys like girls with meat on them? So many guys like the girls with no boobs, no butt, and no personality? but they have no meat. How is that sexy? What is wrong with girls who have curves? Just wondering, any input would be great!!

I don't think it is any different than my single female friends, who all have a preference for characteristics, as shallow and limiting as that may be.

One will only date 5'10" and shorter, skinny, preferably long hair, biker/rock star type.

Another only blonde, athletic, muscle bound, nothing between the ears sort of guy.

Another one wants a suit and tie type of guy, clean cut, minimum education standards, clean shaven with no mortgage and no child support payments.

Everybody has a preference, or attraction to a certain type of person, that they feel compatible with, even if its only for one night. Some differentiate a one night stand girl, to a girl they'd bring home to meet mom.

I don't think they all prefer model types, any more than model types prefer a certain type of guy. I guess discrimination goes both ways.

To each his own.

artlady
Aug 29, 2009, 11:17 AM
I have seen very attractive people who turn heads when they walk into a room and then when they open their mouth,their allure goes right out the window. That's all they have.

Their personalities don't match the outer beauty.Inside they are superficial.

I have also seen reasonably attractive people who smile and are genuine and people flock to them because they are real ! Those are the people that truly connect with others.

Think about how many beautiful men and women get dumped or cheated on by someone less physically attractive.

That speaks for itself.

In the long haul,looks alone wears pretty thin.

Jake2008
Aug 29, 2009, 11:29 AM
ArtLady, that is so funny. I can relate to that person who looks so handsome/gorgeous, then they open their mouths and prove that they have nothing between the ears but fluff. Lol

It's interesting that people limit themselves to certain characteristics. I've tried really, really hard with a few of my friends to open up a few possibilities- just simple ones like no hair instead of a comb-over lol, and even if the guy has no front teeth, drools, and eats with his hands, they still stick to that 'vision'.

I've met some of the good lookers too, and yes, they are quite yummy, but, keeping conversations at a grade three level gets a little boring. "Duh......did uh...you....uh.....um........uhhhhhhhhh, d'uh........see the red car go by fast?"...

Lol I'd better stop right here! :D

artlady
Aug 29, 2009, 11:46 AM
ArtLady, that is so funny. I can relate to that person who looks so handsome/gorgeous, then they open their mouths and prove that they have nothing between the ears but fluff. lol

It's interesting that people limit themselves to certain characteristics. I've tried really, really hard with a few of my friends to open up a few possibilities- just simple ones like no hair instead of a comb-over lol, and even if the guy has no front teeth, drools, and eats with his hands, they still stick to that 'vision'.

I've met some of the good lookers too, and yes, they are quite yummy, but, keeping conversations at a grade three level gets a little boring. "Duh......did uh...you....uh.....um........uhhhhhhhhh, d'uh........see the red car go by fast?"....

lol I'd better stop right here! :D

Keep at those girls Jake.I have never had a type.I know what I like in the way of looks.
I used to have this vision of a guy who looked like James Taylor with long dark hair... until I fell in love with a bald fat man ! True :p

Alty
Aug 29, 2009, 11:59 AM
Just remember one thing. Looks fade, personality lasts forever.

I'm average. I'm not super skinny, I'm not chunky. I'm not gorgeous, I'm not ugly. I know that if I walk into a room full of people that I'm not going to be the prettiest girl there. I do however know that I'll walk into that room and most of the people there will gravitate towards me. No, that's not conceit, it's confidence.

I know who I am, I'm comfortable in my own skin, I'm smart, I'm funny and I'm confident. It's taken a long time to become who I am, and the first step was accepting myself and all my flaws.

You have to love who you are, walk into a room and know that you're well worth the time.

Real men don't judge a book by it's cover, they open the pages and read. :)

mudweiser
Aug 29, 2009, 12:06 PM
Hi I'm not rail thin.. but I do wear a size 4. I'm not dumb. I have a lot to say. I'm a good friend to have. I think I'm funny... my looks well it doesn't really matter.

If you have this stinky attitude guys are going to smell it, black, white, yellow or brown-- and they won't stick around for so long.

So my suggestion to you is to stay positive. If you have some sort of jealousy towards thinner people then get healthy yourself. Realize I said healthy- not go on a crash diet and starve yourself. Get some exercise, eat right and not only will you get thinner but you'll be healthier.

I'd also like to say that it depends what "type" of guy your going for. Some guys are shallow and some go for personality. If you keep going for guys whom have dated only thin dummy girls then chances are you won't be his next girlfriend.

Besides, if you want a boyfriend you got to love yourself first.

If you keep busy with your own life:
-socialize
-volunteer
-get a job/ go to school
-read some self help books on self improvement
-learn a new language
-take a cooking class

Soon enough someone will notice you!

It's much better to be found than the be the one doing the finding.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Sarah

jmjoseph
Aug 29, 2009, 01:07 PM
I prefer thin women and I know most guy do. It's easier to change the way you look than to change how men like women :D. Looks are important but they are not everything.

A lot of times I turn down gorgeous women because I haven't made a connection with, even down they are perfect physically. Sometimes I get connected with less beautiful women but who have great character. Charm and character are extremely important for me, and I would say most guys.

More guys nowadays like women with a nice body, but not THIN. Thin women don't have nice bottoms.

paxe
Aug 29, 2009, 02:14 PM
More guys nowadays like women with a nice body, but not THIN. Thin women don't have nice bottoms.

I never said that we don't like form, I love form with a thin body and most guy do. We don't especially like overweight women in general.

mudweiser
Aug 29, 2009, 04:21 PM
I never said that we don't like form, I love form with a thin body and most guy do. We don't especially like overweight women in general.

Unfortunately, most heavy women forget that they indeed are heavy and decide to clothe themselves in a manner that is not flattering;
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:9prmVszN1LoJuM:http://marvinlindsay.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b54369e200e5526ad8298834-320pi

Here is an example of a woman who knows how to dress for her "size"

http://www.bargainmoose.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Penningtons.jpg
http://hudson-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/042-Plus-Size-Women-forever-21-plus-size-banner_resize.jpg
http://images2.cafemom.com/images/user/gallery/post_1492155_1244821977_med.jpg

Dare I say...

No one likes to see a the muffin top or just too tight clothing.

The best route to go is to find clothes that fit you well! Even a size 2 person can choose the worst of outfits.

I believe that love does start with looks-- the guy/girl does have to be attracted to you to begin the whole process!

Why not increase your chances of finding love with just getting a better wardrobe-- besides you'll feel sexier and more confident with clothes that don't cut your circulation or you have to keep fixing every now and then.

Sarah

jmjoseph
Aug 29, 2009, 04:41 PM
Sarah, I had to spread the rep. but you are absolutely right about women wearing the right clothes for their size. And the plus sized model in those pictures is really my type( if I wasn't married, I only have eyes for my wife now). I don't like the bottom picture though, maybe it's the dress...

When my wife and I got married, she was a size 6. Now after two kids, and my cooking( I cook a lot and I use real ingredients... like butter) , she is a size 14. I love her the way she is regardless, and like her better with some more meat on her bones. I have particularly enjoyed the extra boob weight. She is losing weight now for health reasons and her self esteem. She knows I'll love her no matter how she looks. But will cook more cobbler, pies, and the like if she gets too thin.

GOD made women all sizes, and men to love them. Isn't it great how that works?

none12345
Aug 29, 2009, 06:52 PM
Basically I think most guys would like a girl that is not skinny and not meaty. Just the right amount. I do believe that personality is more important than looks but at the same time there is more to attraction than just personality.

For me I have an image of the perfect girl but than again perfection is in the eyes of the beholder. I am sure there is at least one person or even tons more who will see you as the perfect person.

But then again I don't think being too shallow is a good thing because then you might not find the person you are looking for. Anyway I'm done blabbing LOL.

amicon
Aug 30, 2009, 01:51 PM
We re all individuals and attracted to different looks personalities etc etc.So what works for you works for you.:-) healthy s nice I think!

artlady
Aug 30, 2009, 02:32 PM
Sarah, I had to spread the rep., but you are absolutely right about women wearing the right clothes for their size. And the plus sized model in those pictures is really my type( if I wasn't married, I only have eyes for my wife now). I don't like the bottom picture though, maybe it's the dress....

When my wife and I got married, she was a size 6. Now after two kids, and my cooking( I cook a lot and I use real ingredients... like butter) , she is a size 14. I love her the way she is regardless, and like her better with some more meat on her bones. I have particularly enjoyed the extra boob weight. She is losing weight now for health reasons and her self esteem. She knows I'll love her no matter how she looks. But will cook more cobbler, pies, and the like if she gets too thin.

GOD made women all sizes, and men to love them. Isn't it great how that works?

Go light! Or as advertised "lite"!

This is a challenge that I have come to embrace.I am trying to eliminate the unnecessary fats and sugars and many things. It isn't easy to do at first but simply using applesauce instead of oil in a cake mix,is a good thing.

There are many substitutes these days that are better for you and don't have to impair the taste.

Heart disease,high cholesterol,all of those things you don't want in your life can be prevented to some degree.Heart disease in the number one killer of women,in the U.S.

If people have children it is vitally important to begin to keep their arteries clean now!

Diet has also been a factor in colon cancer.My brother lost his battle with it and ironically,he was a very renown chef and cooking teacher.

All of the food he cooked,he tasted while it was cooking.

Sorry for high jacking the thread :rolleyes: Really!

paxe
Aug 30, 2009, 03:27 PM
Starting a meal with a huge salad helps a lot. Lost 22 pound like that.

artlady
Aug 30, 2009, 03:35 PM
Starting a meal with a huge salad helps a lot. Lost 22 pound like that.

Exactly! Every little bit counts and just filling up on salad instead of bread is a great choice.
If you simply cut out little things,it can have a huge impact!

CFZD
Aug 30, 2009, 06:43 PM
OP,

It doesn't matter! Being a woman, you always need to take care of yourself. Eat healthy, work out regular and maintain a good circle of friends. You can go to the gym with your friends forming a routin (e.g 4 times a week). But you don't do this for the men, you do it for yourself!

kctiger
Aug 31, 2009, 08:50 AM
I know everyone on here has done a wonderful job of answering the OP's question so I will not pretend that I have anything profound to add.

For me a women who is confident and above all good hearted can make up for any potential flaw she may have physically. No one is perfect and we are all attracted to what we consider beauty. The good thing about beauty is that if you pick the right kind, it lasts forever. There are tons of guys who love all sorts of gals, and vice versa. I am always amazed to find a girl that can actually put up with me... that is a girl that I want to get to know!

To the OP, just be happy with yourself and know that ALL women are beautiful so long as that beauty starts with their heart!

I wish
Aug 31, 2009, 09:02 AM
Bottom line is it depends on the person's tastes; however, you can't control the person tastes.

But you can control your feelings and your appearanc. The important part is that you are comfortable with your personality and your physical appearance. Once you are comfortable with yourself, you are in a better position to look for someone who will accept you for you.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 09:53 AM
Well, I am a big girl, but I am told that I'm "pretty for a big girl" what is that suppose to mean? And if a guy hollers at me and I ignore him, I am a "fat bi**h. It just got me thinking why guys go more for the skinny ones.

kctiger
Aug 31, 2009, 09:57 AM
Some guys will go for anything that means a quick lay... not all of us are like that.

Stay true to yourself and if someone can't accept that then they don't deserve you. If a guy can't accept you on your worst day he sure as hell doesn't deserve you on your best.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 10:13 AM
Thank you for that kctiger.

Jake2008
Aug 31, 2009, 10:14 AM
Cris,

Don't judge all men by the boorish few. I've dated all sorts of men, fat, skinny, all kinds of interests and occupations, and the one I ended up with for 33 years and counting now, is sort of a combination of all of them.

There was a time in his life he would have dated a tall leggy blond with no butt and big knockers, and little between the ears, and was oblivious to me, the tree climbing, bike riding no makeup gal down the street. Then he grew up and realized there was more to a long term relationship than physical characteristics, started dating me, who's been up and down 30 pounds overnight, and all the really important things saw us through all these years.

Don't make time for people who judge people. For any reason, but particularly the shape you happen to be. And don't think that you aren't noticed either. If you come across as being less than worthy, or without confidence, men will pass you buy.

Negative people I avoid at all cost. I pick up on that easily, and there was a time where I thought it was directed to me, but it wasn't. It's just the way some people are, so don't let them penetrate that confidence, and tear down your self-worth. Let them go tear somebody else up, you stay strong. Pick people that are good for you, love you, enjoy your company, and that have a good sense of humour, and you them.

It is a waste of time to give of yourself to those that do not appreciate you for who you are. That may sound corny, but that really is the truth.

rosebud135
Aug 31, 2009, 10:28 AM
I think that your just talking about the jerks. The "oh i need a skinny perfect chick" When really, Phat is the new fad. (:
Im curvy and have had the same man for a year now. And I've also had lots of others and they liked my body the way it was. Just don't only talk about your body because they don't want to hear it.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 10:31 AM
Thank you. I appreciate that. I definitely agree with that.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 10:32 AM
Well, I am getting the gastric bypass surgery done in the next few months, I want to be healthy, but I don't want to be a tooth pick. I am excited.

Synnen
Aug 31, 2009, 10:41 AM
Cris,

I bet the guys you're dealing with are all under 25.

Sometime right around 25 they start getting brains and thinking with the BIG head instead of their LITTLE head.

Seriously--BOYS want the perfect thin girl. MEN want a woman with confidence.

So the next time someone tells you that you're "pretty, for a big girl", tell him:

"Thanks! You speak well, for an idiot!"

Jake2008
Aug 31, 2009, 11:09 AM
A friend of mine had that surgery nearly two years ago now. I'll tell you, she is half the person she was, literally, and she's in shape, energetic, and feels really good about herself.

It is a very long haul though, I hope that you are well informed, it won't be easy to adjust yourself and keep to the rules.

Good luck to you, I hope you let us know how it all went.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 11:14 AM
I know. I have already started the steps. I have to stop smoking, and that is going to be hard for me. I have been smoking for 9 years now. I know I can do. This is something that I have been researching for 5 years now. I am ready!! I will let you guys know.

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 11:27 AM
Haha, yea.

CrazyThumper
Aug 31, 2009, 01:12 PM
Cris- this is related, but not answering your question directly. I saw you say "Well, I am getting the gastric bypass surgery done in the next few months, I want to be healthy, but I don't want to be a tooth pick. I am excited. " Let me ask you something...

Do you have an underlying medical condition that prevents you from becoming 'healthy?' I am very into physical fitness and a lot of my friends compete competitvely, so living a healthy lifestyle is not new territory to me. Please just ask yourself before you go through with this surgery, "Have I tried everything I can on my own and given 110% into becoming a healthier person without surgery" And I'm not talking for a few weeks.. If you can say no, in any way- reconsider surgery, or at least hold off a bit longer. Start educating yourself on diets, proteins, carbs, sugars, exercise.. how your metabolism works, etc. I hate seeing people have surgeries that they think will improve their confidence, but in the end they never resolved the under-lying issue and just end up worse off then before.

Back to your original question- not all guys like skinny girls. I like physically fit girls. To ME a girl who is physically active has confidence, a desire to keep healthy and cares about her body/appearance. BUT I would never date a bimbo, or a b!tch, etc.. Looks are the initial attraction, and although they eventually fade.. it helps in the beginning ;)

With that- I honestly get very annoyed when I see over-weight woman/girls complaining about their weight, or mocking skinny/good looking girls because they don't have the willpower, or dedication it takes to look /feel good. If you are comfortable, and confident in your own skin there is never a reason to belittle anyone else, no matter their shape-or size. As everyone else said, be happy with who you are.. if you are NOT find out WHY. If there are things you can change about yourself to make you happier- START doing them NOW.. don't wait for a magic pill, surgery, or someone ELSE to push you. It's within all of us to become better people emotionally/physically/mentally... and you are ON this message board because you want one of those things..

Good luck!
Thumper

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 02:21 PM
Well, actually, I have put all of my focus and energy on diets, but now I have medical problems that can't be solved on my own. There surgery isn't a quick fix, or a merical worker, and I know that. It is a tool. A tool that I know I need. I have been over weight since I was 7 years old. My whole family is obese and I have relatives that had the surgery and it worked great for them. I am confident in my own skin, and I am not that big on what people think of me. I was just curious as to what it was that guys liked more about skinny girls then girls with curves.

Big girls get looked down on by guys, and I feel that if it weren't for society, it wouldn't be that way. There are also a lot of hipacrits out there that are big boned and they only go after skinny girls, what is up with that?

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 02:34 PM
Ok, here is another question. What does it mean when a guy says that he likes a girl who takes care of herself?

crisluvsu731
Aug 31, 2009, 02:35 PM
Shower? Fit? Hair color? Nails done?

CFZD
Aug 31, 2009, 05:59 PM
OP,

Don't put too much emphasis on what the guys say. It's a common sense to dress neat and go to the gym regularly. The body is yours, if you don't take care of it yourself no one else will.

none12345
Aug 31, 2009, 06:37 PM
Ok, here is another question. What does it mean when a guy says that he likes a girl who takes care of herself?

It simply means that he loves how that girl treats herself well. It shows lots of good qualities. Confidence, knows what she wants, self - respect, class, and tons more.

To be honest it goes both ways. Girls like guys who knows how to take care of themselves too.

This is because when looking for a mate, if that person takes care of themselves well, you ll be sure they will take care of their mate well too but its not just one way. Both people take care of each other. Hope that helps =P

CrazyThumper
Sep 1, 2009, 06:44 AM
Yup None12345 basically summed it up. A girl who "Takes care of herself" is just that.. she makes the effort to look the best she can at all times. This may be your hair, nails, skin, correctly fitted clothes, obvious hygiene, etc. And it also means you respect yourself and the people around you and act appropriately. Nobody likes a snob, a loud mouth, a know-it-all, ego-maniac, etc..
Perfect example.. I have a guy friend who ALWAYS complains he can't get a girl/girlfriend. Yet he hasn't cut his hair in forever, looks messy, has long nails, is a bit over-weight due to lazy/eating crap food, etc.. and because of this his attitude sucks, and his confidence is shot.

Why would a girl want to invest her time into a guy who can't even invest time into making HIMSELF look/feel good? You think that guy is going to care for/take care of a girl the way she wants to be ? Absolutely not... so the blame is on him. He needs to take the first steps. And in regards to the 'big-boned guys' going for smaller girls. Who cares? There are also big boned guys who love big boned girls... just have to find them and ignore the rest. If those other guys don't find you attractive then smile and continue on... their loss right? Love who you are... someone will definitely see what you have to offer and appreciate it.

I'm sorry to hear about your medical conditions.. I hope the surgery gives you new hope on life and perhaps more confidence/whatever it is your looking for.
Thumper

crisluvsu731
Sep 1, 2009, 09:29 AM
Thanks thumper.

earl237
Sep 3, 2009, 11:55 AM
It's a myth that most men prefer thin women. Some do but most prefer curvy women. I have always had a preference for curvy women. Marilyn Monroe and Sophia Loren were much more attractive than Calista Flockhart and most modern actresses. I think that British chef Nigella Lawson is the sexiest woman I have ever seen. I love her curvy, natural figure and light skin. Her accent is also a turn on.

crisluvsu731
Sep 4, 2009, 02:56 PM
She isn't curvy. She is thin!

earl237
Sep 4, 2009, 05:07 PM
Check her out in this video, she is definitely curvy and sexy, I never notice what she is cooking, heh heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf6WngVhv8I