My bottom lip is pink with a dark brown outline.
My top lip is dark brown (purple, some say).
The dark brown is what I'll say is at least 2 or 3 shades darker than my facial skin.
(it's about the same color as my dark knees and elbows which I am also working to lighten).

Originally, I tried lightening my lips using lemon.
I sucked on the lemon twice a day for 3 days.
On the third day, my top lip swelled slightly in the middle of the lip.
It revealed a light brown tone underneath the swelling.
I stopped using the lemon after that day.
On the 4th day, the swelling went down and the middle of my lip was a bit lighter but not as large as the area that had swelled.
I take the swelling as a good sign.

Then I was told to use Diana Stalder Lightening Cream.
I tried this for 6 weeks and saw very little if any lightening.

Then I used the Diana Stalder Glutathione Soap with some Vaseline.
On the 3rd day, the middle of my upper lip swelled to a kind of light brown shade.
I stopped using the product for 3 days to give my lips a rest.

Now, on my 3rd session,
I've done this for the last 5 days, only at night, and the middle of my top lip is revealing a lighter shade.

On the 3rd day, my lip swelled in the middle to reveal a browninsh-pinkish shade that was covered in a purple-ly layer. It's reminded me of a sausage, like if you cut the sausage top layer off, a clearer color will come out ;]

Here's how I've been using the soap!

- I exfoliate my lips gently with a wet towel or my tooth brush.
- then I dry my lips and wet the soap slightly.
- I then apply to soap to my top lip and the outline of my bottom lip.
- I let this dry.
- sometimes I apply Diana Stalder Lightening Cream on top of it and then I apply vaseline.
- if you want, you can just apply vaseline. You just may be wasting some cream.
- after I've applied the vaseline, I rub this in really nicely. You can skip this, I just do it.


I think the lips lighten from the middle to the ends for some odd reason.
I've beeen having a hard time lightening the bottom lip outline.

i will be posting pictures for you when it's more noticable in the photos.
i photograph much darker than i really am.

Depending on your skin type and what products work best for you,
You may chhose to use a different soap.

The reason this Go Diva Lip Gloss doesn't work for everyone may be for 2 reasons
1) it has more petroleum and not enough of the licorice extract
2) licorice extract is not the most potent ingredient here even though it's gentle

And, well 3, not everything will work for everyone!


some tips and advice!

The upper lip is sensative, so it will burn.
I ignore the burning.
I mean, it RRRREALLY burns.
Especially on the 3rd and 4th days.
Sometimes the burrning lasted for over an hour but I simply ignored it because this just means the product is working.

The Glutathione Soap doesn't taste good but I just drink some milk or whatever and kind of gargle it.

I don't eat after I put this on until it's completely dried with the vaseline on.
I usually do this at night so I don't really eat that late anyway.

I recommend giving your lips a rest according to your comfort level.

I figure I'll see really good results in about 2 weeks, excellent results in about 4.
It may even take 8 weeks but I'm prepared for that.

I'm going to start apply twice daily soon.

If you've got any questions or anything, just comment here and I'll be glad to answer you here.

I hope this works for you as well :)

Are you serious?
Because I have the same problem
My skin is browwn but my upper lips are close to getting black and the outline
It looks like I smoke! That's how serious it is
So do you think the cream would help fix that or no?

Are there no concerns about ingesting the produtcs ?

I know it's not for everyone and it isn't cheap but I had permanent make up done on my lips several years ago and I really liked the results. The effect lasts for approx 5 years and I am thinking about topping it up now that it's fading.

I know it's not for everyone and it isn't cheap but I had permanent make up done on my lips several years ago and I really liked the results. The effect lasts for approx 5 years and I am thinking about topping it up now that it's fading.

Did you add color to your lips?

Godiva lightened my lips. I didn't noticed it until after I stopped using it and one day I'm looking in the mirror like wow. So I have another jar and I'm about to use it again.

Did you add color to your lips?


Yes I added a rosy tone to my lips. Before I could only describe my lip colour as looking really lifeless. I hated it.

The procedure was painful as there are so many sensory nerves in the lips and straight after my lips were enormous. I had to cover them with a scarf because it looked so odd. But it was all worth it to me.

Something to think about... I am considering permanate eyebrows

something to think about... I am considering permanate eyebrows

Hey I thought of getting the permanent eyebrows too! But, I was also thinking that once I reach my desired shade I want to have them dyed them a light brown like Tyra's. So, I'm going to purchase the Lumigan (same as Latisse) instead and put it on my eyebrows and eyelashes so they will grow thicker and darker.

Hey I thought of getting the permanent eyebrows too! But, I was also thinking that once I reach my desired shade I want to have them dyed them a light brown like Tyra's. So, I'm going to purchase the Lumigan (same as Latisse) instead and put it on my eyebrows and eyelashes so they will grow thicker and darker.

I've read that the Latisse does not work... have you heard different?

My mother has permanently done her brows... her hair there was thinnning weirdly with age...

And now I think it luks awful. Although she likes it... just be careful with such stupid procedures...

She has also done the botox ONCE.. and claims it made her frontal line recede.. I believe its sort of true also because she had such a narrow forehead like most goan Portuguese do...

And now her forehead is alarmingly bigger...

Im forcing her to do a face lift instead of botox... botox is crap... now that it has worn off her face looks even more wrinkled !

Weird isn't it? But all true... anything you start you HAVE TO MAINTAIN.. I mean HAVE TO.. no alternative left..

So better research whatever you do !

I have seen some eyebrows permanently done that look so unnatural and really spoil the features . It is clear that you have to take care with the practitioner that you allow to work on your face. The make up does fade with time, so maybe the effect on your mum that you don't like will soften with time. That said, if your mum likes it, then maybe this is the look she was trying to achieve, even if it's not your cup of tea.

It's nice that you can talk with your Mum about surgery. Not sure if my Mum would be too happy if I SUGGESTED a face lift to her. Although she has mentioned this herself before, she is reluctant to do it, as she believe that being a christian, one should not be so obsessed with your looks. In addition to the fact that she also is scared of going under the knife to achieve the lift.

It's nice that you can talk with your Mum about surgery. Not sure if my Mum would be too happy if I SUGGESTED a face lift to her. Although she has mentioned this herself before, but is reluctant to do it, as she believe that being a christian, one should not be so obssessed with your looks. In addition to the fact that she also is scared of going under the knife to achieve the lift.

Sounds like my fam

So Sexy, I'm unsure about the Lattise but some people may have side effects from it from what's noted on the commercial, so it may not work for everyone. There are several people who just use the Lumigan which has the same active ingredient as Lattise (bimatoprost) but only cost about $15. But I believe it takes about 6-8 weeks to start seeing it working.

Maharani, was it the tattoo makeup that you got for the lips? I had a friends that had the tattoo eyeliner done and it always looked perfect. There are other things that your mom can try at the spa instead of the facelift, like the chemical peels, retin-a, micordermabrasion. There also this little pump that you put under the chin and push down, as it helps with exercising the muscles but I forgot what it was called.

Imgorgeous... "forehead is alarmingly bigger....."? Lol you have a way with words, I didn't mean to laugh a bit on how you were describing it.

I used to put fair and white whitenizer gel on my lips and it lightened it.. gave my top lip a pinkish glow.. I would also exfoliate after I brushed my teeth to get rid of the deead skin cells...

Maharani, was it the tatoo makeup that you got for the lips? I had a friends that had the tatoo eyeliner done and it always looked perfect.


Yes it was the tattoo procedure I had done. From your friends experience you can see that done by the right person, you can attain a nice effect.

yes it was the tatoo procedure I had done. From your friends experience you can see that done by the right person, you can attain a nice effect.

Very nice, I did consider having an eyeliner effect done for my eyes but if it was only temporary I probably would get it as it looked so beautiful and perfect.

Thanks Sagluva for the idea when I'm ready to lighten my lips. Did it dry the lips too much?

Eye brows that can be glued on ? What if you have a malfunction and one of them drops off!

Eye brows that can be glued on ? What if you have a malfunction and one of them drops off !!

Lol

@ golden girl - haha.. but its true.. my mum when she came to the uk I had seen her after seven months... and she lukd more wrinkled, a lot darker, and her hairline is receding... she is like 50 or something , don't expect me to give out her real age, she loves hiding it and I love hiding it for her too. I feel rather proud to take her along with me and people saying she is my elder sister :) ) !

@ so sexy etc. - Oh I am the youngest kid.. Whenever my mum went to do something, she would take me along. I remember she used to go for some skin peels etc. when I was a kid and take me along.. I think my obsesssion for all the superficial began because of her itself lol !
No one not even my sister, brother or dad know when she goes in for such treatments... only I do because I end up going with her ( or at least used to when I was stayign with them )
For her botox I went with her... and I feel it doesn't look too good on her because her features are very chiselled.. SUPER high cheek bones, squarish jawline and very less flesh on her cheeks... she has thinning skin too... so when she did the botox.. it was as if the injection is simply going under the skin.. no flesh to inject into.. tahts what the doctor said also lol
Maybe ill post her pic on pm sometime... for a fifty year old she is pretty hot looking :)

I asked her to go in for a face lift but she is really scared.. besides she will never tell the others and if she has to then I have to be around for her to do it... else she won't go...

@mepk - guess your right... besides my mum did botox really late in life ! So I guess it didn't really help :(

Summarising, ( Lolll) my mother is pretty goodlooking in spite of that forehead going out of hand now... I even make fun of her for it and she sportingly takes it in her stride..

But when she speaks about my hair going because of seborrheic dermatitis , I LOSE IT haha

I am just not sporting enough and she knows it ;) She always makes me feel good about myself... and I'm a who always pulls her legs over everything... come to think of it I'm feeling bad now.. OK time to call her and speak with her.. I'm feeling guilty now !

Very nice, I did consider having an eyeliner effect done for my eyes but if it was only temporary I probably would get it as it looked so beautiful and perfect.

Thanks Sagluva for the idea when I'm ready to lighten my lips. Did it dry the lips too much?

It didn't dry my lips.. just make sure you exfoliate your lips with a tooth brush.. apply it to your lips then wait a few minutes and apply lip balm/chapstck.

Maharani Ihave seen these fake eyebrowson some online stores, but they were still in the packet. I never knowingly seen them on people yet, as I was wondering if they look natural or not. Sometimes it looks like Tyra wears fake eyebrows because they look so perfect, but they are probably hers.

Sagluva thanks for the tips.

Imgorgeous why not get your mom some retin-a for the wrinkles? I have high cheekbones too, so I try not to make them stand out even more as in I do not wear blush.

I know permanent make up is no joke, but even though you never went back for the top up, did you like the effect you got before it faded to grey?

I know when I had my lips done, I thought never again, but I may do it again one day because I did like the outcome.

Not to make too light of it, I suppose it's a bit like having a baby, you remember how much it hurt but you still go back for more...

Ouch!! what a comparison

Lol... as they say sometimes beauty can be painful... and I can't handle too much physical pain.

Lol @ Fake eyesbrows.

I would LOVE really nice, thick, bollywood style eyebrows, know what I mean?

I may buy LiBrow, heard some good things about it.

Lol @ Fake eyesbrows.

I would LOVE really nice, thick, bollywood style eyebrows, know what I mean?

I may buy LiBrow, heard some good things about it.

What is LiBrow? I was shocked when I saw them too. I did think about it as I would really love to have thick trimmed dark eyebrows to show off. But, I wonder if they have to shave their real eyebrows off if they have any in order to have a natural look? My mom has those thick eyebrows so she is always trimming them. My brows are thin, but when my skin is quite light my brows look a bit darker, but not thick enough.

What is LiBrow? I was shocked when I saw them too. I did think about it as I would really love to have thick trimmed dark eyebrows to show off. But, I wonder if they have to shave their real eyebrows off if they have any in order to have a natural look? My mom has those thick eyebrows so she is always trimming them. My brows are thin, but when my skin is quite light my brows look a bit darker, but not thick enough.

LiBrow is this sort of serum you apply to your eyebros at night and it makes them grow longer and thicker. They also do Lilash which gives you longer thicker lashes.
They are pretty expensive but many folks raving about it on YouTube, I might just give it a go. :D If you've the money, give it whirl! :)
Ooh, not sure I would shave my eyebrows off in order to make them thicker, would be scared in case they don't grow back, eeek! :eek:

Oh, similar to Latisse for lashes? People also use the Lumigan since they are the same product with the same active ingredient Bimatoprost, but Lumigan is much cheaper like $15. People are even just buying the Bimatoprost and diluting it with the other ingredients that are common in Latisse and Lumigan since it's also cheaper. How I see it, no reason to buy a pricey name brand when you can get it for much less and stock up! I'll check the active ingredients for the LiBrow and Lilash... I wonder if it is also Bimatoprost.

Oh, similar to Latisse for lashes? People also use the Lumigan since they are the same product with the same active ingredient Bimatoprost, but Lumigan is much cheaper like $15. People are even just buying the Bimatoprost and diluting it with the other ingredients that are common in Latisse and Lumigan since it's also cheaper. How I see it, no reason to buy a pricey name brand when you can get it for much less and stock up! I'll check the active ingredients for the LiBrow and Lilash...I wonder if it is also Bimatoprost. I'll be waiting for the ingredients

OK, prostaglandins is the active ingredient in both lilash and librow.

Prostaglandin analogs for hair growth: Great expectations (http://dermatology.cdlib.org/93/commentary/alopecia/wolf.html)
Librow for eyebrow growth looks a lot like Lilash (http://www.truthinaging.com/eyes/librow-for-eyebrow-growth-looks-a-lot-like-lilash/)
Lilash offers eyebrow cosmetic products and eye make up cosmetics for eyebrow growth. (http://www.lilash.com/librow_faq.html)

ok, prostaglandins is the active ingredient in both lilash and librow.

Prostaglandin analogs for hair growth: Great expectations (http://dermatology.cdlib.org/93/commentary/alopecia/wolf.html)
Librow for eyebrow growth looks a lot like Lilash (http://www.truthinaging.com/eyes/librow-for-eyebrow-growth-looks-a-lot-like-lilash/)
Lilash offers eyebrow cosmetic products and eye make up cosmetics for eyebrow growth. (http://www.lilash.com/librow_faq.html)

OK thanks

No prob

Let me know when you order and your results

OK, I will.

Thanks, Golden Girl.

I'm currently looking for cheaper alternatives. :)

I agree, that way you can buy what you love and stock up more.

are you serious?!
cuz i have the same problem
my skin is browwn but my upper lips are close to gettin black and the outline
it looks like i smoke! thats how serious it is
so do u think the cream would help fix that or no?

Hi,

The only brand creams I've used is Diana Stalder & when I was using just the cream, no soap, I noticed some results at first. It was very subtle so I started using the soaps instead.

So it may, depending on how products work with your skin.

Good luck & keep me posted!

are there no concerns about ingesting the produtcs ?

The little amount that I use is nowhere near fatal :)

I also top it off with lotion and/or vaseline which coats it so it stays on my lips & doesn't enter my mouth.

When applying the soap though, especially the glutathione soap, I could taste the fragrance which isn't yummy but oh well!

Vaseline might actually be a bad idea for coating something intended for lightening. It's oil-based, and therefore UV exposure and it's effect are increased. (Despite any properties it may serve as bounding lips and other products' ingestion.)

I put vaseline on my lips all the time and they're really light red/pink :)

But I heard also that vaseline and emu oil both darken skin, somehow.

I like my lips burgandyish-brown, I would prefer no lighter than light brown/burgandyesh. I don't know why but my lips look a bit more fuller that way and it looks like I am wearing lipstick. I believe any oil based product applied to the lips can increase the chance of the skin darkening if your lips have more melanin there. My only reason to use vaseline would be for my eyebrows once in a while, other than that I hate vaseline.

You guys with dark or rich lips is blessed.

Pale lips can look lifeless and have that "clear" look. :(

I doubt I would look right with red-toned lips, no matter how much I lightened. But, some people look great with red-toned lips like Mccauley Culkin, he has vibrant red lips and is adorable.. even though hese older than me

http://www.ojotele.com/images/2008/04/garydourdan-csi.jpg

Yeah he has pink lips, similar to my older brother's. But it looks fine on him. But I don't find it attractive on him, its not unnatractive either, I guess they blend in too much on him.

Yeah blending too much into the rest of the skin tone :(

Ok so back to the lip lightening... will any papaya/kojic acid soap work or does it just have to Diana stadler soap?

Hi, I've been using papaya kojic acid soap on my face and lips for the past 6 months,alpha arbutin on my lips morning and night for the past three months and have just received my fresh up today. The papaya for me is just a great exfoliater,the alpha arbutin hasn't shown much results in way of lightening either! I'm going to continue to use all three along with some lip balm because the alpha and fresh up feel very drying on the lips... il keep you all updated.

p.s fresh up very very expensive for a tiny 15ml!

Hey let us know if fresh up works on your skin

On my sixth day of using fresh up morning and night along with the other stuff I mentioned. There is no noticeable difference to the colour of my lips although I have been smoking a lot more recently which can't be helping,but I'm going to continue using the fresh up until it finishes. I'm going to be gutted if it doesn't work!

I am brown skin also,I had that problem also with the dark lips,I used the kojic acid soap on my lips when I am cleaning my face before my cream,I leave it and my lips for about a min or a two,everday and night,and it seem to lighten my lips up a little,they like this dark red color now,and I love myskin complexion,now it's very clear &bright,now.. It's very funny,when I am in the house I look like a very clear brown,but when I am outside I look,light brown...

How long have u been using that kojic acid product ?

iam brown skin also,i had that problem also with the dark lips,i used the kojic acid soap on my lips when iam cleaning my face before my cream,i leave it n my lips for about a min or a two,everday and night,and it seem to lighten my lips up a little,they like this dark red color now,and i love myskin complexion,now it's very clear &bright,now..It's very funny,when iam in the house i look like a very clear brown,but when iam outside i look,light brown....

I have made that observation too.In the house,I look brown,under the toilet light,I look lighter... I don't seem to know my skin tone.
I used meladerm on my lips.Its doing a great job

I been using gluta-c skin lightening cream every since2008,and the kojic acis soap

If your lips are dark to smoking, then the first thing you need to do is stop. But if it's just dark because it is, then try using your toothbrush to scrub with lemon juice once a day. It'll work. Everything takes time.

It'll work if at one time your lips were lighter. Your lips don't bleach like your skin can. It'll bruise if anything. It can only return to it's natural shade, but won't of another color, again, IT'LL BRUISE, and look funny, and you'll be praying for those black lips back again. (LOL)!!

iam brown skin also,i had that problem also with the dark lips,i used the kojic acid soap on my lips when iam cleaning my face before my cream,i leave it n my lips for about a min or a two,everday and night,and it seem to lighten my lips up a little,they like this dark red color now,and i love myskin complexion,now it's very clear &bright,now..It's very funny,when iam in the house i look like a very clear brown,but when iam outside i look,light brown....

Of course you'll look lighter outside due to the sun light, or just the different light. That's normal, everyone experiences that.

@zo3_786
Any noticeable difference after using fresh-up?

Hello everyone! Apoligies for not keeping you updated... a week into using the fresh up I started a new job and my beauty regime just took a back seat! Sorry droy I'm sure its not the update you were hoping for! I stopped using the fresh up once I started my job as my daily routine became too hectic and my priorities changed. I do intend on starting again with the fresh up and once I do I will let you all know my results xx