If telepathy were real do you think it should be ignored or studied?
The reason I ask this is because if it were real and most of us decided to ignore it then would some of the people that knew about it abuse it. If this were true I think That would be where schizophrenia originated.

Schizophrenia - Telepathy and Schizophrenia (http://www.healthcentral.com/schizophrenia/c/292218/63519/comments)

Hi, QuestionReality!

If telepathy were something that's real, then I do think that it would be worthy of study. I don't know that I would say that it was the only source of the origination of schizophrenia, though.

Why are you asking the question, please?

Thanks!

I am not sure how you associate telepathy with schizophrenia. I am sure that schizophrenics probably feel they are telepathic but that wouldn't make telepathics schizophrenic.
Anyway they do study telepathy and other psychic/paranormal things as well.

The government has been studying telepathy, remote viewing and other things for the CIA for years, at least as far back as the 60's

Hi, QuestionReality!

If telepathy were something that's real, then I do think that it would be worthy of study. I don't know that I would say that it was the only source of the origination of schizophrenia, though.

Why are you asking the question, please?

Thanks!

Well I've never been to the doctor to be diagnosed for such things but some of my friends and family believe that a lot of my symptoms are schizophrenic based. I've been capable of dealing with all of this by believing that it may be some sort of telepathic wave that I taped into? Some days are tough though... I don't like the idea of going to a doctor anymore because of money issues and I don't want to change myself chemically, I have tried to get counseling before but they actually did'nt have very many available their were actually only like 2 in this office, I was so frustrated that I gave up on that idea and figured I could help myself. It seems today people are happy with being put on some drug to fix their problems I actually asked the guy this "that I went to get help from" and he pretty much confirmed it and he to thought it sad... There are few times when the voices are friendly, mostly I just sing or talk to myself to keep from having to hear them... I get through life very well I think though I know I'm very strong and can handle any issue that comes my way. Which is why I sympathize for scizophrenics that have been Institutionalized or put on some brain altering drug... I'm pretty sure that there are indeed telapathic people out their, and for the most part the one's I hear are trying to make me go insane but I won't so they keep trying, I tell them to go right ahead cause nothing they do or say can bring me down "stick's and stone's". It does get very hard though like when I re read all of what I've just written I sometimes do believe that I'm Insane? But I'm still hear.:)

Well is what you 'tap into' something that turns out to be true or is it irrational thoughts?

I know they say that people that get seizures due to trauma are more susceptible to this sort of thing

Well is what you 'tap into' something that turns out to be true or is it irrational thoughts?

I know they say that people that get seizures due to trauma are more suseptible to this sort of thing

I don't really know. Theirs really no way to tell cause I think that nobody besides me would talk about strange thoughts directly related to the current circumstances.. which I don't do anymore cause it did seem to make the situation become quite awkward but I don't really know if that was me assuming the situation was awkward or if it actually was awkward maybe I just made it awkward... I don't think theirs any way to really tell unless their were two people wise to this that were comfortable with eachothers character... also I don't think you consciously have to try to tap into it.. It might have a lot to do with beliefe? Sometimes I believe that it was a mistake thinking that this were real.. cause of the things that people would come up with on their own pertaining twoards this... theirs so many different explainations and theory's about all of this.. I really wish that their was like a social group to visit that practiced and proved or disproved these theorys and such and that it didn't have to be the cia that was studying it because I'm to afraid that if I talk to someone like that about it they would think they owned me and lock me away or something? Even by what I'm saying now I feel that trust is hard to come by in dealing with this situation. I think that people are to afraid of this to want anything to do with it and would hate somebody like me... it's so confusing sometimes... sometimes I would rather believe that I was just scizophrenic... It scare's me to...

I've never had a seizure. Sorry for getting all worked up. I kind of panicked their.

It hard to tell.
I might be able to figure it out for a psych fee :D

It hard to tell.
I might be able to figure it out for a psych fee :D

What's a psych fee? And I'm not really sure if anyone can just figure it out unless they already knew? And yes it is really hard to tell. Do you want to try and send me a telepathic message and I'll send it back to you on the forum, or vise versu?

I'll be your psychologist to figure it out and then send you the bill :D

I am not sure what kind of thoughts you are having you didn't really say so I can't figure it out

I'll be your psychologist to figure it out and then send you the bill :D

I am not sure what kind of thoughts you are having you didn't really say so I can't figure it out

I don't have any money to spend like that. All of my funds go to rent, food, gas and my vehicle payment's. And I don't think it's a good idea to do something like that over the internet... Thank you though that's very thoughtful of you to want to help me. Are you a real psychologist?

Ahhh I'm inexpensive just throw me a couple bones to fed my dogs.

NO I'm not a real psychologist but I can usually tell stuff like that.
Like you could either be letting your brain just over run itself with what psychologists call self talk and need to learn self control on your thoughts.
Or it could be paranoid schizo
Or it could be something paranormal

Or something along any of those lines

ahhh I'm inexpensive just throw me a couple bones to fed my dogs.

NO I'm not a real psychologist but I can usually tell stuff like that.
Like you could either be letting your brain just over run itself with what psychologists call self talk and need to learn self control on your thoughts.
Or it could be paranoid schizo
Or it could be something paranormal

or something along any of those lines

Well what do you think about chaneling? Like spirits or demons forceing their words through us for a specific purpose?

That is possible.
Were you involved in any thing like channeling, ouija board, séances, or anything like that?

How long has this been going on?

I think that telepathy is different then chaneling but works in the same way or at least we precieve them in a similar way? That would explain a lot of the confusion.

About four years after a friend of mine went through something like this. He told me things very similar to what I'm dealing with now except a bit more drastic and morbid, he to thought he was scizophrenic. Later on he gave me a painting that dipicted an angel faceing a demon the back of the angel facing forward and the front of the demon facing forward is it possible that maybe something was chaneld through this painting?

I think with telepathy the person (you) doesn't even have to have the ability it just comes from the person/people that do.

Are they telling you to do crazy things?

Maybe you should get rid of the painting

I think with telepathy the person (you) doesn't even have to have the ability it just comes from the person/people that do.

Are they telling you to do crazy things?

They try to convince me that I feel negative twoards people that I otherwise love and don't want to feel in such a way twoards? This is when I usually talk to myself to let me know that I don't really feel that way.

There was a show on coast to coast on this.
I will look it up and post it.
It was about a lady that was married to some government guy and she kept being told stuff.
They finally told her that it was a government experiment for telepathy and mind control.

I don't know how it may be happening to you though or how severe or anything

One thing you can do is take vitamins and some natural supplements especially vitamin B6. I will look up a link for the rest of the supplements.

Do you think that would negate all of these happenings? Id be afraid that it would send whatever it is back to my friend. I don't really want to do that he had it pretty rough. I remember something from the movie the craft, a bonding spell do those really work? Maybe I could trap it to prevent it from causing anymore harm! I would love for that to be the case then the alternative.

I do take lots of vitamins and it does help! I take a daily multi vitamin potassium and fishoil.

Well it may have everything to do with my friend? Because the painting came from him. And I think it may have come from his father because he had a history of scizophrenia as well... I think I know where its coming from now and to tell you the truth I want to do everything within my power to make sure it doesn't hurt anyone else... after I said that I heard laughter in my head?

Yeah do you ever talk to him?
Is he doing better or worse?

yeah do you ever talk to him?
Is he doing better or worse?

He's one of my best friends and he's doing great now not on medication or anything like that he takes multivitamins as well.

hes one of my best friends and hes doing great now not on medication or anything like that he takes multivitamins as well.

I don't think its him though I think its something that came from him. To tell you the truth this is the most emotional I've been about all this stuff in awhile. Do you know where I can find a binding spell to trap the demon or whatever in the painting?

I don't want my friend to be hurt anymore we are good friends. We've been through hard times but we are so much better now. Should I send you a picture of the painting or would it be a bad idea to post it online?

Yeah it isn't him I just thought he might have some insight.
I don't get into binding spells because you can't beat a demon with a demon.
I use to have friends that did deliverances on people but I don't think they do anymore.

What state do you live in?

I don't see any harm in posting it

I live in Maine, it should be on my thing. So it's not the painting?

I don't know that is why I was saying ask him. Ask him when he got the painting and when he started with the hearing voices.
Ask him if when he gave you the painting if it got less severe.
He probably didn't put 2+2 together.

Here is the link I was telling you about
They should have an audio on it or they may have it on YouTube.

Mind Control & Secret Societies - Shows - Coast to Coast AM (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/04/06)

Ohhhh OK ic all right, I don't know if he would say anything about it if he knew. So it probably wasn't the painting.

Trash can?

Here are some links

Supplements and Schizophrenia (http://hubpages.com/hub/Supplements-and-Schizophrenia)

MotherNature.com - Schizophrenia (http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Ency/Index.cfm/Id/1259003)

Here is a link for clinical studies
That may be helpful
Search of: schizophrenia - List Results - ClinicalTrials.gov (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=schizophrenia)

Now would panic attacks have an effect on causeing me to feel harmful when I otherwise don't want to cause harm? Because usually I have a panic attack before I hear these negative things.

I know when I would get panic attacks sometimes it would make me feel like I needed to punch something. Probably more with anxiety panick attacks though.
For panic and/or anxiety attacks you need to take sublingual vitamin B12
I'll look for a panic attack link too.

I'm even more confused then ever now.

What is confusing you?

Why I'm being affected this way what did I do to diserve this. I don't think I'm a bad guy and I don't want to be. Is it because I don't gett along with all of societys standards and they just don't want me here. It's not up to you to fix me everyone has their problems. And you can't know all of the answers to my questions some of them are imposible to answer... but I think I know what I have to do. Nothing bad so don't worry. I'm going to paint my own painting.

Thanks for your help by the way. The painting was called self poison by the way. And it was painted on 11/18/05

It isn't your fault and it isn't anything bad you did. Bad things happen to good people. Everybody has some kind of problem that bothers them throughout the years.
You just have to be strong and work on overcoming things.
Like try to learn to distinquish and control these thoughts. Try to learn about it and what to do to make it quit.
Keep taking the vitamins especially the B vitamins and the ones you said you take.

It isn't your fault and it isn't anything bad you did. Bad things happen to good people. Everybody has some kind of problem that bothers them throughout the years.
You just have to be strong and work on overcoming things.
Like try to learn to distinquish and control these thoughts. Try to learn about it and what to do to make it quit.
Keep taking the vitamins especially the B vitamins and the ones you said you take.

Thanks :) ill keep trying, yum vitamins!

Besides the sublingual B12
Some things good for panic attacks are
GABA -an amino acid
5 HTP
Flaxseed oil
Chamomile tea
Bach's flower remedy

besides the sublingual B12
some things good for panic attacks are
GABA -an amino acid
5 HTP
flaxseed oil
chamomile tea
Bach's flower remedy

I've been taking a st. john's wort lemon balm compound. That seems to help with my anxiety but I guess I don't really have to bad of an issue with panic attacks. I didn't realize those were more anger based, my issue is more of an unknown fear type thing, I'll see if I can't get my hands on some of that stuff though.:)

Question reality, they are demons, I just read a book about a lady who experienced the same thing that your going threw that learned how to channel spirits. She was torcherd for along time and thought that some one or something could get them to go away. She went to church and pastor after pastor and nonething worked. She finally realized that she needed to command them to leave in the name of jesus. They didn't leave right away but the more she surrounded herself with christ and his love they finally left her alone. The bible says resist the devil and he shall flee. This book is called ENTICED BY THE LIGHT. THE AUTHOR IS SHARON BEEKMANN. She is a licensed marriage and family therapist wi th her own christian based practice. She teaches a course on occultism and christianity. So your not crazy there are other people who have experienced what your going threw.

Its been a while since iv'e been on here and lots has happened in between and I realize now how ridiculous I was being. I was afraid and I let it get the best of me. In a sense the demon was me and my fear was the catalyst.

Hi again, QuestionReality!

I'm glad that you've gotten some things figured out! Please also know, that this thread is now old and archived. So, it's no longer on the list of currently active threads. If you start a new thread, it will be more likely to get noticed and addressed.

Thanks!

If you are interested in telepathy (regardless of whether it’s a real ability or not) I suggest you look into body language, intuition and basic instincts and behaviour. You can learn a lot about a person just from their body language and attitude.

It has been looked at to a point, Government programs and the such ( even though it has never been proven)

If it could or was proven, then yes it would be studied.