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Aesops97
Aug 3, 2009, 09:36 AM
My yard has a weed which grows like a carpet and spreads quickly. It has no flowers or buds so apparently spreads via the roots. Can anyone tell me what this weed is called and how is it controlled?
grandadm44
Aug 3, 2009, 09:45 AM
I looked this up and I believe it is called carpet weed. It can be hand pulled or use a broadleaf herbicide in early to midsummer.
Prevention
Pre emergent herbicides applied in mid spring will prevent carpetweed from developing. Keep the lawn vigorous through a regular fertilization program and good mowing practices.
Hope this helps.
Aesops97
Aug 3, 2009, 11:32 AM
I looked this up and I believe it is called carpet weed. It can be hand pulled or use a broadleaf herbicide in early to midsummer.
Prevention
Pre emergent herbicides applied in mid spring will prevent carpetweed from developing. Keep the lawn vigorous through a regular fertilization program and good mowing practices.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the response. I thought it was carpet weed also but the close up leaves of my weed and the carpet weed don't appear to match as the attached reveals.
grandadm44
Aug 3, 2009, 11:52 AM
Maybe check out these two others I found.
Spurge Prostate and Spotted Spurge
Aesops97
Aug 3, 2009, 03:39 PM
I thought you'd got it this time. <g> Spotted Spurge came close. I've taken two more jpgs of the individual stem showing leaf detail and included the Spotted Spurge.
KUXJ
Aug 4, 2009, 04:28 PM
Looks like a type of privet.
You say there are no blossoms?
Have you actually dug up the root system?
Can you post pix of roots?
Does it get taller than 2feet?
Hardy during drought?
Die off over winter?
Do you have a freeze?
What State?
Near the ocean? (Saltiness)
K
Aesops97
Aug 4, 2009, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the response.
I originally said there were no blossoms but I stand corrected. Today, I found some older growth and it had a few very small (1/4 inch dia) blossoms in a horn shape. Outside edges were light purple and inside was a shade darker. I'll try to find some more, but as you can see from one of the posted JPG's, no blossoms are visible.
Root pixes attached.
It hugs the ground but when they grow on top of each other, it can get up to 4 to 6 inches. Grabbing into it and pulling brings up many roots.
It is hardy during drought but plenty of rain this year give it too much growth. :-(
It dies off during first frost. It always starts from scratch each Spring
It's hardy in NE Tennessee near the Virginia border.
No Salt water here. :-)
KUXJ
Aug 5, 2009, 09:32 AM
Thanks for the response.
I originally said there were no blossoms but I stand corrected. Today, I found some older growth and it had a few very small (1/4 inch dia) blossoms in a horn shape. Outside edges were light purple and inside was a shade darker. I'll try to find some more, but as you can see from one of the posted JPG's, no blossoms are visible.
Root pixes attached.
It hugs the ground but when they grow on top of each other, it can get up to 4 to 6 inches. Grabbing into it and pulling brings up many roots.
It is hardy during drought but plenty of rain this year give it too much growth. :-(
It dies off during first frost. It always starts from scratch each Spring
It's hardy in NE Tennessee near the Virginia border.
No Salt water here. :-)Your welcome! I didn't forget you...
This bugger is a hard one to find.
This is, but one Site I'm checking:
Image Gallery Results | USDA PLANTS (http://plants.usda.gov/java/imageGallery?growthhabit=SS&familycategory=DI&artist=all&location=all&cite=all&duration=all&stateSelect=US47&nativestatus=all&category=sciname&imagetype=all&txtparm=&wetland=all©right=all&sort=sciname&viewsort=100&page=4&imageField.x=13&imageField.y=10)
There's four pages to go.
K
Aesops97
Aug 5, 2009, 12:51 PM
Returned to the large area shown in one of the pixes above looking for a flower but couldn't find one. The flowers I found yesterday was near another bush and it's possible the flower was not part of this unknown carpet-like weed. Hopefully, as the days pass, a flower will show up.
Aesops97
Aug 5, 2009, 01:02 PM
A friend in Athens, AL where I used to live apparently has found the same weed in his yard. It's warmer down there than in NE TN and his has flowers. The light purple flower with a darker area is shown in his weeds. So, If I can stop these things from going to seed, perhaps I can stop the spread. I'll try 2-4-D but it's a huge area. I really hate putting that much herbicide on my yard.
KUXJ
Aug 5, 2009, 02:09 PM
I'll try 2-4-D but it's a huge area. I really hate putting that much herbicide on my yard.If your not in a rush, say a couple of weeks. Why not try a salt brine, you could even add some bleach to it. 2-4-D is good, but it'll still take a week 10 days. Organic 14... try a test area.
Here's a rundown of herbicides for sumac see post #3:
killing-sumac-roots (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardening-plants/killing-sumac-roots-380548.html)
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Aesops97
Aug 5, 2009, 06:27 PM
My friend in Athens, AL provided this close up of the flower. If it can't be ID now, I'm out of luck. :-(
Thanks to all who tried.
KUXJ
Aug 5, 2009, 08:27 PM
My friend in Athens, AL provided this close up of the flower. If it can't be ID now, I'm out of luck. :-(
Thanks to all who tried.
Ask your friend. When these come to fruition do they have seed pods like green peas?
Like near the bottom of this page?
Desmodium paniculatum page (http://www.missouriplants.com/Pinkalt/Desmodium_paniculatum_page.html)
Look at the flower leaves and stem on this:
Whitealt/Lespedeza_cuneata_inflorescence.jpg (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Lespedeza_cuneata_inflorescence.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Lespedeza_cuneata_page.html&h=400&w=378&sz=32&tbnid=rRdXgEyoFDSjCM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLespedeza%2Bcuneata&usg=__w2TA1d8TSnj9HUceWwVtRD_gMhQ=&ei=mj16St_AFIOwtgews6GBAg&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image)
It also has some caricature of Vinca and Fabaceae.
I know I've seen these somewhere.
Aesops97
Aug 6, 2009, 04:59 AM
A friend sent me the attached jpg of the weed growing in his yard in North Alabama near Huntsville.
Aesops97
Aug 6, 2009, 05:06 AM
Sorry for the double posts. I used a bookmark going directly to my posting and it stopped updating. :-(
Aesops97
Aug 6, 2009, 05:08 AM
This is the closest yet. Might just be it. My AL friend has more mature flowers (I have none yet probably because it's cooler in NE TN).
Thanks.
Aesops97
Aug 6, 2009, 06:12 AM
These 4 additional jpg's should be sufficient info to ID this pesky little critter. KUXJ may well have ID's it.
KUXJ
Aug 6, 2009, 09:28 PM
Hi! Aesops97...
Take a look...
Lespedeza striata
http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/images/Lespedeza_st_8-403_2548.jpg
http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/images/Lespedeza_st_8-603_6595.jpg
Lespedeza intermedia
http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/images/Lespedez_int_9-603_8646.jpg http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/images/Lespedez_int_9-603_8640.jpg http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/images/Lespedez_int_9-603_8648.jpg
It's gettin' late I'll touch base with you tomorrow.
K
Aesops97
Aug 7, 2009, 04:38 AM
Kudos to you, KUXJ. You've save the day!! Japanese Clover? One URL advised how to get <seeds> and grow the stuff. Interesting!! Why would anyone want to <grow> that stuff? <g>
It appears Roundup and 2-4-D kills it and pre-emergence in the Spring.
Thanks again, KUXJ, and to all others who participated. You've made my day.
KUXJ
Aug 7, 2009, 05:23 AM
Three varieties. It is considered a Legume, and is a valuable food source for Stock animals and wildlife, see the fed.us.database.
Brought into the country in 1910 from Japan for that reason.
It is also used in some states for highway erosion control (who was getting the upper hand? :rolleyes:)
Lespedeza striata
polyploid.net: IN Plants (http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/pages/Lespedeza_st.html)
Lespedeza striata page (http://www.missouriplants.com/Pinkalt/Lespedeza_striata_page.html)
Lespedeza intermedia
polyploid.net: IN Plants (http://www.polyploid.net/inplants3/pages/Lespedez_int.html)
Lespedeza cuneata
Sericea Lespedeza (http://www.ppws.vt.edu/scott/weed_id/lescu.htm)
Common Lespedeza or Japanese Clover (http://www.ppws.vt.edu/scott/weed_id/lesst.htm)
Lespedeza striata (http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/forb/lesstr/all.html#MANAGEMENT) CONSIDERATIONS
Turf & Weed ID Information for lespedeza, common (Lespedeza striata) (http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/turfid/csPagedPdField.aspx?PlantID=LESST)
Suggested herbecides
Turf Weed Management Decision Aid (http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/turfweedmgmt/WeedMgmt.aspx)
K
Aesops97
Aug 7, 2009, 08:44 AM
Good information. Copied to my friends. Have a great day KUXJ
KUXJ
Aug 7, 2009, 03:02 PM
Your Welcome, and the same for you Aesops97
I hope you didn't have any trouble working this link?
Suggested herbicides
Turf Weed Management Decision Aid (http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/turfweedmgmt/WeedMgmt.aspx)
I thought it linked directly to the recommended herbicides that I had found.
I didn't have time to test it earlier, and when I did, it starts at the beginning.
Steps to take:
You must select a turf, or No turf specified Select a weed Check what you want displayed Results are generated automatically.
Hope it wasn't confusing
K