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jenniepepsi
Aug 1, 2009, 03:24 PM
Hello all.

I have pretty much kicked the accuall chemical addiction to ciggarettes I had. I go for WEEKS without one and have no issues nor withdrawl symptoms.


However even after weeks of no smoking, if I go anywhere that there is a smoker, I feel that physical addiction to need to hold the ciggarette and suck on it. I just can't seem to find a way around it.

Its not really affecting my ability to NOT smoke. But how can I make these physical habits stop (the holding, sucking, inhaling, blowing out, ect)

I can't really stay away from it, as everyone at my moms place smokes and I can't NOT go over there because my daughter has a sleep over every weekend at their place.

And I've tried chewing gum, I've tried sucking on suckers and other candies, it just doesn't do it for me. :(

And I've tried those plastic fake ciggarette inhaler things, and all that does is burn my throat :(

Catsmine
Aug 1, 2009, 05:13 PM
I lit my most recent one three and a half years ago. I go through four packs of tic-tacs a day now, and I still have the oral fixation. I haven't quit smoking yet, I just haven't lit the next one.

twinkiedooter
Aug 1, 2009, 07:47 PM
I successfully quit smoking by visualizing that I was on the subway in New York City where you cannot smoke (even though it was a good 15 years after moving away from NYC). I would just keep remembering that I was on the subway. I'd pound the desk at work with my clinched fists or pound the kitchen table at home and kept saying to myself that I was on the subway.

After 2 weeks you should really have no physical cravings for a cig. What I think you have is the psychological craving. Have you tried any self hypnosis on yourself to see if you can stop your cravings that way? Self hypnosis is relatively easy. If you want some info on my techniques just PM me and I'll be happy to pass along to you.

artlady
Aug 1, 2009, 07:57 PM
I lit my most recent one three and a half years ago. I go through four packs of tic-tacs a day now, and I still have the oral fixation. I haven't quit smoking yet, I just haven't lit the next one.

You must have wonderful breath :D

jenniepepsi
Aug 1, 2009, 08:04 PM
Thanks everyone ;)

Yeah I know its just the psychological issue. I have tried self hypnosis/self relaxation whenever I get the desire. It helps a little. But as soon as I open my eyes again it's there. Lol.

Its probably something I'm going to have to live with forever. And ill just have to get the will power to NOT do it.

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 02:47 PM
I had a boyfriend a looooong time ago that was asian, and he had a family member in his native country send him these metal fake cigarettes... OMG, they were great! They were just right, right size, good taste and they didn't irritate the throat! I soooo wish I could find those, but all I can find are those plastic ones!

zippit
Aug 3, 2009, 03:14 PM
The only way I have ever been able to quit is cold turkey,they say that doesn't hold the best I agree.last time I quit was right after hurricane IKE came through.I got on a green tea kick and stopped any alcohol and smoking it was all good for two months and I gave in to a beer, then my wife smokes so that is like impossible.I started cigars and next thing you know right back where I started.
For nervous fidgeting try one of those squishy balls I forgot what they are called

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 03:18 PM
Were the plastic cigarettes you had the prescription kind?

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:20 PM
No passmeby they were from the store, and you can buy little capsule things that you insert into it to get the niccotine. Let me see if I can find the product...

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:21 PM
Here you go...

http://www.stopsmokingsteps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/inhaler_.jpg

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 03:24 PM
Can I ask what store you got them at? I might be interested in trying them out! Or if you could give me their proper name so I could look them up online? Those are def not the ones I was thinking of!

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:25 PM
Mmm aparently my hubby got it from a friend. And doesn't know where his friend got it from.

Wow. That's scary. Remind me never to take anything my husband gets from a friend :P who knows what it is.

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 03:26 PM
Jennie,

I worked with a guy years ago that satisfied the oral fixation of quiting smoking by cutting a cigarette length piece of drinking straw. Whenever he was craving that feeling, he'd suck on the straw. They're practically free and harmless. I quit 6 years ago, and know how tough it is. I'm pulling for you.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:27 PM
Thanks jm, I tried that. But it didn't work because it wasn't the same feeling. But I could try stuffing tissue in it for some inhaling resistance :P

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 03:30 PM
I tried that, but with a pen instead of a straw! I stuffed it with cotton balls that I put Vick's Vapo Rub on! Ah... but it didn't work unfortunately! But I was still smoking at the time though, I was using it to try to cut down, so it might be different to someone who has already quit.

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 03:30 PM
Why not just use a cigarette. But first, throw out your lighters.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:33 PM
Haha wouldn't work jm.

Unfortunately I grew up in the south (or at least my mothers version of the south) and I light my ciggarettes on the stove :P and its not a gas stove either :P its an electric one. The old fasioned coils and all :P hehe.

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 03:36 PM
LOL, I'd go for the toaster first if I didn't have a lighter, but there's been a few times I used the stove in the past! I don't allow smoking inside my house since my girls were born, so I can't do that anymore!

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 03:37 PM
haha wouldnt work jm.

unfortunately i grew up in the south (or at least my mothers version of the south) and i light my ciggarettes on the stove :P and its not a gas stove either :P its an electric one. the old fasioned coils and all :P hehe.

It should be: "fortunately, I grew up in the SOUTH..."

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:44 PM
Lol I didn't REALLY grow up in the south. But I was raised 'southern' I grew up in Washington state but my mom was born and raised and spent most ofher adult hood in little rock Arkansas

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 03:51 PM
lol i didnt REALLY grow up in the south. but i was raised 'southern' i grew up in washington state but my mom was born and raised and spent most ofher adult hood in little rock arkansas

We claim them, they're kind of southern. But I'm in the DEEP SOUTH. It's really a great place to raise boys.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 03:59 PM
What's deeper south than Arkansas?

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 04:01 PM
Jennie, look at a map sweetheart.

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 04:07 PM
My husband and I argue all the time about what's the REAL south! He's never been to Georgia, NC, SC or anywhere around there, so he has no clue! He thinks Texas is part of that! No way! Not even close!

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 04:11 PM
NC SC isn't south..?

Texas IS south. I'm in Arizona right now. And that's south.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 04:13 PM
Its all southern, its just you guys are EASTERN southern :P and we are central/western southern ;)

passmeby
Aug 3, 2009, 04:15 PM
No... I'm talking about southern "feel" and tradition! Yes, NC, SC, GA, is Southern. Texas is Southern geographically, but not really Southern in tradition and feel compared to those other states! I feel that the 'South" stops at Louisiana!

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 04:35 PM
Yes, it's the southeastern United States, but it's called "the deep south" . Here you go:

Deep South - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South)

Catsmine
Aug 3, 2009, 04:49 PM
Grasshopper, you forgot to type in a Suthen Axcent!

Don't give me no truck about the beach, neither. I's born in Chattanooga 'n' raised in Rome Gawja.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 04:50 PM
Ahhh I get you.

Arkansas doesn't qualify? They are pretty 'hick' aren't they?

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 05:07 PM
Grasshopper, you forgot to type in a Suthen Axcent!

Don't give me no truck about the beach, neither. I's born in Chattanooga 'n' raised in Rome Gawja.

Mah brutha lived in Rohme for a peece, naw he stay in Naashvil. I's born rite heah ehn geawga, as acrow flie bowt 10 mials frum heah.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 05:19 PM
Ooo so many sexy southerners. Pretty soon ill be called 'little lady' or 'missus' or 'ma'am'

Catsmine
Aug 3, 2009, 05:20 PM
Ifn y'all isn't Southern, don't bother tryin'

We know what we say.

Sweetpea, go Kojak with lollypops.

Who loves you baby?

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 05:30 PM
ooo so many sexy southerners. pretty soon ill be called 'little lady' or 'missus' or 'ma'am'

Yore prettiur thana red weeng blakburd sitting owna yeller punken. Shuggar

Catsmine
Aug 3, 2009, 05:34 PM
Yore prettiur thana red weeng blakburd sittin owna yeller punken. shuggar

D'y'reckon she'll figgur whut y'said?

jmjoseph
Aug 3, 2009, 05:36 PM
d'y'reckon she'll figgur whut y'said?

Naw.

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 06:06 PM
Awww thank you hon!

Yes I got it :D

I'm prettier than a red winged black bird sitting on a yellow pumpkin :D

jenniepepsi
Aug 3, 2009, 06:07 PM
I had dreams when I was a teen that I would marry a country boy farmer and raise horses. Be one of those overweight women in an apron making farm fresh fried chicken, mashed potatoes, green beans, and home made buiskets and gravy :)

In fact I dated a guy in North Carolina a few years ago long distance. And we might have worked. But he is disabled (slipped disks) and his mom is older and disabled and he helps to support her, and he doesn't feel that it would be right to try to take care of me and my daughter on social security disability.

And while I was disapointed, I felt he was still a sweet romantic gentlemen because of it :D

Catsmine
Aug 4, 2009, 02:34 AM
i felt he was still a sweet romantic gentlemen because of it :D

Joseph, she's discovered our secret. It ain't complicated, it's just being a Gentleman.

jmjoseph
Aug 4, 2009, 05:51 AM
Joseph, she's discovered our secret. It ain't complicated, it's just being a Gentleman.

That's the trick, my mama and daddy made sure I "understood" how that worked. I'm insisting on it with my two boys too.

jenniepepsi
Aug 7, 2009, 10:08 AM
Ooh I see :P you guys all pretend to be gentlemen, but your all unscrupulous.

Catsmine
Aug 7, 2009, 03:52 PM
No dear. Gentlemen have scruples. We also have ulterior motives and are not afraid of going after what we want, just in a polite and civil manner. Devious does not mean unscrupulous

jmjoseph
Aug 7, 2009, 04:11 PM
ooh i see :P you guys all pretend to be gentlemen, but your all unscrupulous.

I have scruples. It's on the shelf right next to Monopoly and Candyland.

Catsmine
Aug 7, 2009, 04:38 PM
I have scruples. It's on the shelf right next to Monopoly and Candyland.

There's a new card game out that my son turned me on to. It's called Flux. The cards change the rules as you play.

jmjoseph
Aug 7, 2009, 05:09 PM
There's a new card game out that my son turned me on to. It's called Flux. The cards change the rules as you play.

I had an uncle that played poker like that. GOD rest his soul.

jenniepepsi
Aug 7, 2009, 05:29 PM
Oooh that's so evil :P

Catsmine
Aug 8, 2009, 03:07 AM
oooh thats so evil :P

But it keeps your hands busy so you don't light the next one. JMJ, I did not know anyone still played Dragon Poker.

jenniepepsi
Aug 8, 2009, 09:58 AM
Lol.

You know what though, I've always loved when southerners called me ma'am, or when australians/irish call me 'love' its so sweet and endearing :P

Catsmine
Aug 8, 2009, 12:49 PM
You're more than welcome, Ma'am.

jenniepepsi
Aug 8, 2009, 09:26 PM
Aww common. I like 'love' better ;)

And thank you to whatever admin/mod moved this for me. :D

jenniepepsi
Aug 20, 2009, 04:30 PM
You guys deserted me ;)
And I was having fun being swooned by all my southern gentlemen ;)

Catsmine
Aug 20, 2009, 05:06 PM
Sugar, you ain't deserted. It's just that times of grief and bereavement tend to somber up the tone of any conversation. I do apologise, ma'am. I cannot flirt right now.

jmjoseph
Aug 20, 2009, 05:28 PM
you guys deserted me ;)
and i was having fun being swooned by all my southern gentlemen ;)

I'm still here suga', what choo need ma'am?

I smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and quit cold. I just got fed up with having no oxygen and energy. And stinking.

I've always been in shape. Except... I started smoking when I got the job I have now, 13 years ago. At first it wasn't much, 1/2 pack a day, then I got a team leader position. There is a high stress level in the aircraft industry, as 99.9% is not good enough. An airplane can't pull over if something's wrong. Well, my smoking got out of hand, and I was sick of it. When our first son was in the yard he brought me a cigarette butt, when he was about 16 months. Old, and said "Daddy", I quit. Right then. We never smoked in the house ( my wife smoked up until she got pregnant), because we were worried about the second-hand smoke. I took Wellbutrin for about a week, then just stopped. It was hard, but I'm very hard- headed, and succeeded. It's been 6 years now and I'm still O.K.. I'm back in shape and am able to walk mountain trails without coughing up a lung. My inspiration was my son, well... sons now. That's all you need to remember, your daughter. Don't take a chance with your health. Tell Isaac to try to quit too, for her. I know money is tight, so this would be a huge help to the budget.

I know the challenge of quitting, and will never tell someone who doesn't want to quit to try to. I'll never complain about smelling someone's smoke, as long as it's not in a restaurant, or my children's functions. I know people who NEED to smoke, as I don't want to be around them if they try quitting. Not without a tranquilizer gun.

Just be determined, and just DON'T do it.

jenniepepsi
Aug 20, 2009, 05:34 PM
Sugar, you ain't deserted. It's just that times of grief and bereavement tend to somber up the tone of any conversation. I do apologise, ma'am. I cannot flirt right now.

I understand hon. *hugs* didn't mean to imply that I was making your grief seem like it wasn't important. *hugs* sorry *BIGGER HUGS*

jenniepepsi
Aug 20, 2009, 05:36 PM
Hehe joseph, reading your signature reminds me of a dream I had when I was like 12. I had a dream I grew up and married a guy like you, and had a horse and cattle ranch and I was a nice plump house wife who spent my days making big giant meals for my big working farm boys. ;)

jmjoseph
Aug 20, 2009, 06:05 PM
hehe joseph, reading your signature reminds me of a dream i had when i was like 12. i had a dream i grew up and married a guy like you, and had a horse and cattle ranch and i was a nice plump house wife who spent my days making big giant meals for my big working farm boys. ;)

Can you make cat head biscuits? And redeye gravy?

DrJ
Aug 20, 2009, 06:26 PM
Hey jennie... first of all, congratulations on quitting. I hope you are still sticking to it. :D

I think something that many of us do not realize is that excessive smoking (along with drugs, coffee, chocolate, etc.) is just a result of our addictive personalities... something that I believe everyone possesses to a certain degree.

The problem many people face when trying to give something up is that, even after their body is no longer physically craving whatever it was getting from our habit, we still have a very deep-rooted psychological craving for that habit... or at least, we tend to THINK it is for that habit.

In reality, your desire for the actual act of holding a cigarette, inhaling it, and breathing out the smoke from it is your addictive personality trying to manifest itself in the most familiar way it knows how.

You can do all the meditation & self-hypnosis you want but that personality isn't going anywhere.

What you need to do is find other things (hopefully more constructive) to feed it. Things that you can feel passionate about... even if its just a little bit. Once that side of you starts to "fiend" over the positive feelings you get from those other things, it will look to those activities to fulfill it's cravings.

People tend to think negatively about "addictive personalities" but I have to disagree. The power that we, as addicts, possess (that which drives our addictive personalities) is HUGE when focused in the right direction. We tend to possess more drive, determination, and tenacity than those with lower levels of this addictive power. Sure, it can definitely get us into more trouble but with greater reward there is always greater risk. :cool:

Lastly... people often talk about or experience trading one habit for another. What they are usually doing is just refocusing ALL of that addictive power into one single activity. Then that addictive power consumes that single activity and craves it constantly. If you can find real passion in different areas in or activities of your life you can use that energy to excel in ways that you never were able to before.

It's all just in your mindset ;)

DrJ
Aug 20, 2009, 06:27 PM
*sighs*

It seems I can no longer post anything without writing a novel these days...

Sorry... I'm one of those ones that hates having to read long posts, too :o

Catsmine
Aug 20, 2009, 06:46 PM
AMHD pet peeve: Novelists

Oops, wrong thread :rolleyes:;)

Catsmine
Aug 20, 2009, 06:58 PM
i understand hon. *hugs* didnt mean to imply that i was making your grief seem like it wasnt important. *hugs* sorry *BIGGER HUGS*

It's a Suthern thang. We're supposed to wear black for Starby for 3 months since we're not related. Alty and Arty are supposed to wear veils and loosen their corsets. You, as a friend of friends, are not required to mourn, merely sympathize.

This is the downside of being a Southern Gentleman.

jenniepepsi
Aug 20, 2009, 09:03 PM
Can you make cat head biscuits? And redeye gravy?

HAHAH yes I can! My mother is from the south and you think I woulndt know!! We didn't call them cat heads though we called them plain old buttermilk buscuits.

I can make red eye gravey, but its not my favorite. I like good old fasioned sasage/flour gravy

jenniepepsi
Aug 20, 2009, 09:07 PM
I'm still here suga', what choo need ma'am?

I smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and quit cold. I just got fed up with having no oxygen and energy. And stinking.

I've always been in shape. Except.... I started smoking when I got the job I have now, 13 years ago. At first it wasn't much, 1/2 pack a day, then I got a team leader position. There is a high stress level in the aircraft industry, as 99.9% is not good enough. An airplane can't pull over if something's wrong. Well, my smoking got out of hand, and I was sick of it. When our first son was in the yard he brought me a cigarette butt, when he was about 16 mos. old, and said "Daddy", I quit. Right then. We never smoked in the house ( my wife smoked up until she got pregnant), because we were worried about the second-hand smoke. I took Wellbutrin for about a week, then just stopped. It was hard, but I'm very hard- headed, and succeeded. It's been 6 years now and I'm still O.K.. I'm back in shape and am able to walk mountain trails without coughing up a lung. My inspiration was my son, well... sons now. That's all you need to remember, your daughter. Don't take a chance with your health. Tell Isaac to try to quit too, for her. I know money is tight, so this would be a huge help to the budget.

I know the challenge of quitting, and will never tell someone who doesn't want to quit to try to. I'll never complain about smelling someone's smoke, as long as it's not in a restaurant, or my children's functions. I know people who NEED to smoke, as I don't want to be around them if they try quitting. Not without a tranquilizer gun.

Just be determined, and just DON'T do it.

Did you edit?? I don't remember all this.

I've been doing good on my smoking until yesterday... *blush* after the fight with issac yesterday morning I went over to my moms house and smoked like a chiminy all nigth while thikning. But no more smoking. I didn't smoke ONCE today :D yay me.
Se for me, its not a chemical addicton. I don't need the NICOTINE. I need the deep breaths, and the hard exhales, and the physical habit of holding the ciggarette. Not to mention I'm a social smoker. If my mom goes outsdie to smoke, I'm going to go with her :P

DrJ
Aug 21, 2009, 10:48 AM
AMHD pet peeve: Novelists

Oops, wrong thread :rolleyes:;)

Maybe I should start my own thread on how to kick THAT habit...

jmjoseph
Aug 21, 2009, 11:46 AM
Maybe I should start my own thread on how to kick THAT habit...

For me? Or for yourself? Or us both maybe?

Catsmine
Aug 21, 2009, 11:56 AM
Maybe I should start my own thread on how to kick THAT habit...

Why not start a thread to quote all the different threads that that "Oops, wrong thread" has popped up in? (Hint: Simply search Alty's posts.)

Unknown008
Aug 21, 2009, 12:10 PM
Just stepped upon that thread...

Good one Cats! :p

DrJ
Aug 21, 2009, 12:26 PM
For me? Or for yourself? Or us both maybe?

You mean I'm not alone? Well, maybe we should just start a support group instead!



Why not start a thread to quote all the different threads that that "Oops, wrong thread" has popped up in? (Hint: Simply search Alty's posts.)

LOL classic! Yeah, maybe it's time we have an intervention with Alty. "This hurts us more than it hurts you, Alty."

jmjoseph
Aug 21, 2009, 12:40 PM
You mean I'm not alone?? Well, maybe we should just start a support group instead!




LOL classic! Yeah, maybe it's time we have an intervention with Alty. "This hurts us more than it hurts you, Alty."

Watch out. She has claws.

Catsmine
Aug 21, 2009, 01:08 PM
Watch out. She has claws.

And a whip.

jmjoseph
Aug 21, 2009, 01:09 PM
And a whip.

Bless her heart.

Catsmine
Aug 21, 2009, 01:15 PM
Bless her heart.

According to John Cho, that's supposed to be the opening of a statement.

Like: Bless her heart, she's cute as a bug.

Or: Bless his heart, he's about as bright as a box of rocks.

jmjoseph
Aug 21, 2009, 01:19 PM
According to John Cho, that's supposed to be the opening of a statement.

Like: Bless her heart, she's cute as a bug.

Or: Bless his heart, he's about as bright as a box of rocks.

Some Southern women think it's OK to say "ugly" things if they throw that in there.

Like: "she looks like a man, bless her heart" or " bless her heart, her hair is as coarse as a horse's tail".

Catsmine
Aug 21, 2009, 01:35 PM
Some Southern women think it's OK to say "ugly" things if they throw that in there.

Like: "she looks like a man, bless her heart" or " bless her heart, her hair is as coarse as a horse's tail".

That was Cho's point. He does a 10 minute routine about you can say ANYTHING about someone if you preface it with "Bless their heart."

I just searched for a clip... it's HENRY Cho. Oops.

jmjoseph
Aug 21, 2009, 01:53 PM
That was Cho's point. He does a 10 minute routine about you can say ANYTHING about someone if you preface it with "Bless their heart."

I just searched for a clip...it's HENRY Cho. Oops.

My wife learned it years ago concerning flight attendants. I really get a kick out of older Southern women. At the beauty parlor every week, filling up on the town's "issues".

Back to the issue at hand. What were we saying about Alty? She has whips, chains, and Great Danes?

Catsmine
Aug 21, 2009, 01:57 PM
No, bunnies.

And a carrot.

Unknown008
Aug 21, 2009, 10:13 PM
And a whip.

Her whip is no more with her ;)

Catsmine
Aug 22, 2009, 03:04 AM
Her whip is no more with her ;)

What did I miss? Was it a funerary gift?

Unknown008
Aug 23, 2009, 01:23 AM
The latest news is that it's with Sunny. In the castle, post 440

Catsmine
Aug 23, 2009, 03:07 AM
Be careful, Sunny had an imposter at one time.