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onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 09:50 AM
:confused: I'm wondering if there's any kind of rental laws through the state on renting out mobile homes? I'm in a small mobile home park & my mobile home is the 1st mobile home on one side of the street. My back door faces the main road the park is on. The people who live in the mobile home that is next to me likes using their back door as their front door & parks 2 cars there's & 1 car on the other side & some times there isn't enough room for me to have a car parked there by my front door. Their front door is on the other side but when I asked my landlord about it she said that they are using that room as a bed room & they also have some property on both sides of the mobile home so they can do what ever they want & I can park cars & use my back door as my front door & use the lawn on the other side as my lawn. Well I don't want to use my back door as my front door & I don't want to be sitting on the main road if I feel like sitting out side. What do I do?? PLEASE HELP
JudyKayTee
Jul 25, 2009, 09:52 AM
Without knowing which State you are in this is impossible to answer.
My feeling would be that the landlord knows the laws and they are within their rights if they are on their property.
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 10:02 AM
To start with I'm in Florida & I have had afew things sent to me that you are only allowed to park cars on the side your front door is on unless you are storing a car & it has to be pulled back to the very back of the other side of the lawn. But in every state there are state rules on the way a park is allowed if the owner likes it or not. So if you don't know what state I'm in how could you really say anything cause every state has its own law. Like its likes againt the Florida state laws for me to use the other lawn as my front lawn due to there isn't enough yars between the main road & my mobile home. I thought I was asking a lawyer who would know state rules. Even if you own land mostly renting out homes on it there arestate laws & RENTERS RIGHT
Without knowing which State you are in this is impossible to answer.
My feeling would be that the landlord knows the laws and they are within their rights if they are on their property.
twinkiedooter
Jul 25, 2009, 10:05 AM
What your question boils down (at least to me that is) is that you are asking about how many people can live in a mobile home legally. Well, just because the landlord allows too many people in one of their mobile homes means nothing. What really matters is that if there are too many people living in a mobile home the county or city's density zoning laws override whatever the landlord says or permits.
If I were you, I would call up the county or city depending on just where the property is located and ask the zoning dept just how many people are permitted in this mobile home. Give the sexes and ages of the people presently living in the mobile home. Give the dimensions of the home (say 14X70) and if you know for a fact how many bedrooms and let the county come out and investigate if that many people can live in that particular mobile home. Don't ask the landlord as they don't care. They just want the money. Now, if the county comes out and determines that there are too many people living in that mobile home the county will make some of the people permanently leave that residence within a 6 month period after the county makes a determination of the violation. Where I live the county zonng folks actually catch the offenders in the act. The zoning folks actually watch the residence and see if the people who were told to leave actually still come back. My neighborhood had several instances of husband, wife, and too many children living in mobile homes. The zoning officer caught the "husband" coming back to the mobile home even though he was dropped off by someone else and his car was not in the driveway. He kept denying he still lived there but the zoning guy told him to move. The zoning folks are far from gullible as they've seen it all. Ending of this particular story was the entire family moved out of the mobile home the next week and never came back.
As far as parking your vehicle and not sitting outside on a busy street, there is no law that I am aware of that you can demand someone to use their front door instead of their back door just so you can sit on the lawn in the back of your house.
justcurious55
Jul 25, 2009, 10:08 AM
onlywonder, judy didn't say for a fact that it was or was not OK what they were doing. She said her "feeling" and asked you for more information so she could give you a clearer answer. If you've already had things sent to you saying that they're not allowed to park there then why are you on here even asking? If it's true they're breaking the law that you claim to know so much about then go figure out how to enforce it.
twinkiedooter
Jul 25, 2009, 10:12 AM
to start with I'm in Florida & I have had afew things sent to me that you are only allowed to park cars on the side your front door is on unless you are storing a car & it has to be pulled back to the very back of the other side of the lawn. But in every state there are state rules on the way a park is alowed if the owner likes it or not. So if you dont know what state I'm in how could you really say anything cause every state has its own law. Like its likes againt the florida state laws for me to use the other lawn as my front lawn due to there isnt enought yars between the main road & my mobile home. I thought I was asking a lawyer who would know state rules. Even if you own land mostly renting out homes on it there arestate laws & RENTERS RIGHT
I lived in Florida in a mobile home community. I do know that there are state laws concerning how a mobile home park is run but it has nothing to do with where you park your vehicle. It has to do with lot rents, evictions, felons not being allowed to live there, and other problems. I have read and re-read the Florida rules regarding mobile homes and I've never read anything about just where you can park your vehicle other than in your approved driveway and anything about which door to use as your "front" door. That particular "rule" would be a rule that the individual park made, not a state rule or state law.
Basically the rules regarding mobile home parks are the same with a few tweeks here and there throughout the US.
Again, contact the Zoning Dept and ask them about the density laws for your county. You just might be pleasantly surprised that too many people are living there and that the Zoning Dept can solve your problems for you. It's worth a phone call on Monday to check it out.
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 10:25 AM
And again you are making no sense. I don't care how many people do or don't live in this park. There are still STATE LAWS that owners of any land can't change if that's what they feel like doing. A STATE LAW is a STATE LAW & from what I can see I seem know more about state laws then you. Either do a little research & know what your saying or say nothing at all. What I said from the beginning had nothing to do with the amount of people any where it was all on MY RENTERS RIGHTS. Your saying its OK for 18 other mobile homes to follow STATE LAWS but because one mobile home don't like them they get to do what ever they want. I'm not paying rent for then to park their cars on the land I'm paying for. I was asking questons about the RENTERS RIGHTS & you won't even take a min. to look in to them. So if you have no information on RENTERS RIGHTS say nothing at all
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 10:43 AM
If you had no idea were I was how can you give any answer with out asking 1st. For one thing yes I can go to the state & have them put up property marks but why should I have to pay for that.
"I do know that there are state laws concerning how a mobile home park is run but it has nothing to do with where you park your vehicle."
Wrong to need to study a little better.YOU ARE A WASTE OF MY TIME. My grandmothers who's 81 years old & have been dealing with mobile home parks & state laws here in Florida longer then you've been alive gave me more right information then you. And your very right I do have a problem with YOU when I ask a question & giving wrong information more then once when you don't ever know what you saying. You need to look into STATE LAWS know what your saying before replying to a question asked about them. This argument is done this isn't a high school disagreement. So next time you may have giving wrong information admitt to it or if you don't have real laws to back up what your saying or just don't say anything at all
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 10:52 AM
Well here's part of one of the rules from something I was sent...
III. Automobiles, Trucks, and Other Vehicles
A. Vehicles shall be parked only in the designated area. Vehicles shall not be parked in or along park roads, or in undesignated areas on the lots.
B. No uninspected or unlicensed vehicles will be permitted in the park for more than thirty (30) days. Vehicles not removed by owner in this time will be removed by the management at the owner's expense.
C. The speed limit in the park is fifteen (15) miles per hour and drivers will be alert for children or pedestrians.
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 11:13 AM
Here's more mobile home park STATE LAWS
(B) Minimum setback from public streets, 25 feet;
(C) Minimum side and rear yard setback from the exterior lot line, 15
Feet;
(D) Standards for mobile home lots within mobile home parks are as
Follows:
(I) Lot occupancy. No more than one mobile home shall
Occupy a mobile home lot. No other dwelling unit shall
Occupy a mobile home lot.
(ii) Minimum lot size. All single mobile home lots shall be at
Least of 3,000 square feet in area, except that a doublewide
Mobile home lot shall be at least 4,500 square feet in area.
(iii) Separation of mobile homes. No wall, post, or column
Supporting a roof of any mobile home, accessory building,
Or addition to any mobile home shall be placed less than 15
Feet away from any other mobile home, accessory buildings
Or addition. A mobile home, or its addition or accessory
Building having an interior finish of gypsum board or
Equivalent fire resistive materials, may be placed no less
Than ten feet from one likewise finished, and no less than
12 1/2 feet from one not so finished. An accessory building
To a mobile home may be placed less than ten feet away
From that mobile home or its addition. Eaves and other
Projections may extend no more than 12 inches into the
Separation distance. Uncovered ramps and associated
Landings needed for access by people with disabilities may
Project five feet into the separation distance.
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 11:42 AM
onlywonder, judy didn't say for a fact that it was or was not ok what they were doing. she said her "feeling" and asked you for more information so she could give you a clearer answer. if you've already had things sent to you saying that they're not allowed to park there then why are you on here even asking? if it's true they're breaking the law that you claim to know so much about then go figure out how to enforce it.
Well I was sent some information & I was trying to ask some one that I thought knew about STATE LAWS. My bad. And I'll tell you the same thing that I told her... if I ask you something & you don't have proven facts to support what your saying either say I really don't know or nothing at all. If you don't mind someone giving you false information instead of the person just stating "I'm not sure" that's you. The title to this site is...
ASK Me Live Answers From Real Experts"
Real experts woundt give you false information they would be truthful & say I'm really not sure but if you look into xxxx this might give you the information your look for. So go ahead give me more of your childish comments. Or step back & look at the facts & act like a adult
ScottGem
Jul 25, 2009, 02:07 PM
to start with I'm in Florida & I have had afew things sent to me that you are only allowed to park cars on the side your front door is on unless you are storing a car & it has to be pulled back to the very back of the other side of the lawn. But in every state there are state rules on the way a park is alowed if the owner likes it or not. So if you dont know what state I'm in how could you really say anything cause every state has its own law. Like its likes againt the florida state laws for me to use the other lawn as my front lawn due to there isnt enought yars between the main road & my mobile home. I thought I was asking a lawyer who would know state rules. Even if you own land mostly renting out homes on it there arestate laws & RENTERS RIGHT
First, you owe Judy an apology. YOU neglected to tell us what state you are in. What would be the value to you if we told you what the rules are in NY when you are in Florida. Your attitude was way off base.
Second, if you have gotten information about parking, then tell us what it says or point us to where we can read it and we can help you interpret it.
Finally, when you rent a lot in a mobile home park, you are renting a defined space. If your neighbor parks their cars within their defined space, then they are not violating any law. Its only if they park on your defined space or block your right of way would they be violating any laws.
if you had no idea were I was how can you give any answer with out asking 1st.
But Judy DID ask:
Without knowing which State you are in this is impossible to answer.
That was explaining to you that we need to know where you live before we can give a definitive answer.
well heres part of one of the rules from something I was sent...
heres more mobile home park STATE LAWS
None of that tells us where this information is from. Also none of that tells us your niehgbor is in the wrong since we don't know what are defined as designated areas. If you want us to help you have to provide us with information to help with.
well I was sent some infomation & I was trying to ask some one that I thought knew about STATE LAWS. My bad. And I'll tell you the same thing that I told her...if I ask you some thing & you dont have proven facts to support what your saying either say I really dont know or nothing at all. If you dont mind someone givin you false information instead of the person just stating "I'm not sure" thats you. The title to this site is...
ASK Me Live Answers From Real Experts"
Real experts woundt give you false information they would be truthful & say I'm really not sure but if you look into xxxx this might give you the information your look for. So go ahead give me more of your childish comments. Or step back & look at the facts & act like a adult
NO ONE has given you false information, frankly I resent the implication. You posted a question without letting us know what state laws to look up. As you admitted yourself, each state has its own laws, so it makes no sense to tell you what the law is in one state if we don't know if you live in that state. This was pointed out to you and instead of just replying with the info we needed you chose to attack without any justification. The only childish comments I see are from you getting upset because it was pointed out that we need more info from you.
My response here contains the facts, not your false accusations. To review, you asked a question about state laws without telling us what state you were in. It was pointed out to you, that we need to know what state you were in. It was also suggested to you that the trailer park manager might know what the laws are. Since then, all you have done is attack the people who were trying to help you, and falsely at that. This is not the way to get help. Now if you really want help, you will apologize for your attitude and accusations and provide us with infor that we can use to help you.
twinkiedooter
Jul 25, 2009, 02:36 PM
Since you seem to know it all - You DID say that the neighbors park 2 cars on one side and one car on the other side. That makes 3 cars total. If you would just follow my advice about contacting the Zoning Dept and get the extra people out of the mobile home you will have your problem solved. OR you could erect a fence on your rented property to prevent the offending neighbor from parking there. 18 mobile homes is a very small park.
I was a paralegal in South Florida and I know of no state law that prevents the morons next door to you from parking all over your lot if you don't do something about it. You quoting the State law is fine and all, but I do have one solid piece of advice for you if your landlord does not make the offending neighbors move their cars off your property. Either get an attorney to file a lawsuit against the offending neighbor for parking on your rented lot or move. Your landlord does not care period. What part of that don't you understand? The rules that you were provided with are typical boiler plate mobile home park rules regarding parking on the grass, blah blah blah. It's either the landlord or park manager who decides if they wish to enforce the park rules or YOU if you wish to file a lawsuit against them. Possibly the neighbors are good friends with the landlord and don't want to upset their apple cart.
And coming here and demanding answers that suit you is not the spirit of this site.
twinkiedooter
Jul 25, 2009, 02:43 PM
well heres part of one of the rules from something I was sent...
III. Automobiles, Trucks, and Other Vehicles
A. Vehicles shall be parked only in the designated area. Vehicles shall not be parked in or along park roads, or in undesignated areas on the lots.
B. No uninspected or unlicensed vehicles will be permitted in the park for more than thirty (30) days. Vehicles not removed by owner in this time period will be removed by the management at the owner's expense.
C. The speed limit in the park is fifteen (15) miles per hour and drivers will be alert for children or pedestrians.
This is typical boiler plate mobile home park rules. I could have quoted you literally the SAME rules from my home owner's handbook from where I live in Ohio. It's typical boiler plate language - nothing more, nothing less unless the rules are enforced by the park manager or landlord of the mobile home park they are meaningless. Just because 17 home dwellers in your park obey the rules and 1 doesn't tells me that the management could care less.
If you owned the mobile home and were not a renter, I am sure that the park management would look at the situation quite differently. Most, if not all mobile home parks are homeowners only and no renters of the homes. In Florida I ran across parks that would allow renters and some parks that were strictly owner occupied. Being a renter in a park means that you are basically a transient and not an owner who has a real financial stake in the park over the long term and if you don't like it, you can easily move versus being an owner and have to sell the home which can take a much longer time to accomplish.
Fr_Chuck
Jul 25, 2009, 03:09 PM
The simple fact is, you can be assigned parking by the landlord anywhere, it could be a block down the street ( try living in apartment in a big city with no assigned parking at all)
You get a lot of the times "what you pay for" so your issues are with the landlord, no "laws" to force otherwise.
There may be local zoning issues of supplying one or two parking spaces, but they do not have to be in the front of your home, but could be really anywhere.
Sounds like you merely need to move to a better standard of living area.
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 03:26 PM
This is typical boiler plate mobile home park rules. I could have quoted you literally the SAME rules from my home owner's handbook from where I live in Ohio. It's typical boiler plate language - nothing more, nothing less unless the rules are enforced by the park manager or landlord of the mobile home park they are meaningless. Just because 17 home dwellers in your park obey the rules and 1 doesn't tells me that the management could care less.
If you owned the mobile home and were not a renter, I am sure that the park management would look at the situation quite differently. Most, if not all mobile home parks are homeowners only and no renters of the homes. In Florida I ran across parks that would allow renters and some parks that were strictly owner occupied. Being a renter in a park means that you are basically a transient and not an owner who has a real financial stake in the park over the long term and if you don't like it, you can easily move versus being an owner and have to sell the home which can take a much longer time to accomplish.
"Vehicles shall be parked only in the designated area."
Which doesn't mean parking on land someone else is paying rent for. And the renters next door are not close friend with the owners. They can barly speak english which I know for a fact bothers the owner. I can name off 4 different mobile home parks here in Florida just here in lakeland plus 5 other parks in lakecity that you can only rent & 2 here in lakeland that you own the mobile homes & only pay rent on the lots alone
excon
Jul 25, 2009, 03:35 PM
Hello:
WHY is anybody helping this ingrate??
excon
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 03:41 PM
!st off when I didn't say what state I live in a "expert" would ask questions that weren't giving before giving any kind of answer or "feeling". You are the ones saying you're the experts not me. A friend sent me the information so I was asking a so called "expert" about state laws. You're the ones saying you're the experts & I'm just a regular person asking a question. If I didn't give you all the information needed why wasn't I told that? I'm not the one saying I'm the expert. How could I tell you where the information was from when someone sent it too me so I was asking a "Real Expert" some questions on it.
"NO ONE has given you false information, frankly I resent the implication. You posted a question without letting us know what state laws to look up."
So you say. Well then why wasn't I asked the state I live in so the laws could be looked up before anything was said further I'm wondering about laws not someone's feelings. Just like when this was said to me..
What your question boils down (at least to me that is) is that you are asking about how many people can live in a mobile home legally.
That was never even brought up. I was asking about property of lots in a mobile home park. That's where the owners don't make the rules the state make those rules & that's all I was asking and that answer was never been giving I really don't care where anyone parks their car but I do pay rent & by law so much of that lawn is in my care because I'm paying rent. So again I'm wondering about "RENTERS RIGHT" & there are special renter rights when renting in a mobile home park. If you don't know the answer just say "sorry can't help you with that" & not fuss about things that shouldn't even been said
onlywonder
Jul 25, 2009, 03:48 PM
hello:
Why is anybody helping this ingrate????
Excon
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ScottGem
Jul 25, 2009, 04:26 PM
!st off when I didnt say what state I live in a "expert" would ask questions ... If I didnt give you all the information needed why wasnt I told that?
What does it take to get through to you? You WERE told we need to know what state you were in.
"NO ONE has given you false information, frankly I resent the implication. You posted a question without letting us know what state laws to look up."
so you say. well then why wasnt I asked the state I live in so the laws could be looked up before anything was said futher I'm wondering about laws not someones feelings. just like when this was said to me..
Again you were told we need to know what state you are in.
So I will, again, suggest to you that you apologize for your attitude and false accusations. Otherwise, I agree with excon that you do not deserve help.
Furthermore, any more posts from you that continue along the same lines you have posted will be removed.