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Athos
Jul 20, 2009, 09:34 PM
Has anyone here experienced talking in tongues? (Not those who have heard about it, but those who have experienced it).
What was it like? Did someone have to explain what you were saying? Or did you have to explain it afterwards? How did you feel during the experience?
What was the message?
Serious replies only, please.
mudweiser
Jul 20, 2009, 10:00 PM
I never personally experienced it. I have been around someone that has.
I was in a Evangelical church, and well this lady started speaking in tongues-- what is odd is that she was speaking in French when all she knew in French was "Bonjour". Anyway what she said was "Be weary of the path you walk in; only darkness and sorrow will be ahead". I personally found it creepy- I was the only one there able to understand her.. ha- maybe she was talking about my now ex, it was an ugly time in my life!
I've also heard of other people being able to speak other languages that they do not speak themselves- perhaps a message to someone in that room?
Who knows.
I do however remember this baptist church that had classes on how to speak tongues and well I find that bull honkey- I thought it was something the holy spirit gave you not something you can teach like German.
I also have a feeling that some people "fake it"- who knows why? To look like a good Christian, to get attention.. meh. I also recall the bible saying that "mocking" or "doubting" the holy spirit is an unforgivable sin so I just let them be and zip my lip. Hey call me superstitious...
I'm not a Christian, nor am I religious. I've been exposed to many religions in the past, I'm curious and love to learn. If anything I remain Agnostic.
Sarah
0EntitY
Jul 20, 2009, 10:51 PM
Yes I have. I was waking up one morning next to my girlfriend. She kept asked me a question and I answered her and she kept asking What? And I would answer her and again, What? I started getting upset from having to answer this question over many times. I finally turned over and looked at her and she had tears from laughing so hard. I thought she went temporarily insane. She saw my look of concern and explained that I was speaking to her in a language she never heard before and that she had even studied different languages in college. She called it tongues, but I knew better. I was speaking a language from one of my long forgotten past lives. I knew what I was saying when speaking to her, but lost it when I was fully awake and could not remember a word of it...
adam7gur
Jul 20, 2009, 11:24 PM
I do speak in tongues and when this started I knew that the Holy Spirit came inside me just like Pentecost.Don't get me wrong , I am no Pentecostal.
When I pray in tongues it is like I surrender my mouth and tongue to the Holy Spirit and the Spirit starts to speak in languages I do know or I don't know,mostly languages I do not know.
It is good when someone can explain but many times there is no such privillege, you just keep on praying in tongues and at the same time you pray with your mind also.It is like there are two persons praying at the same time,the Spirit using your mouth and yourself using your mind.
Deuteronomy 19:15... at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Some have both gifts,speaking in tongues and translating.
It is not always a message that comes up but most of the times it is like the Spirit is praying with you Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
1 Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
One of the latest messages that I have is that this is the sixth hour!
Athos
Jul 21, 2009, 01:47 AM
I do speak in tongues and when this started I knew that the Holy Spirit came inside me just like Pentecost.Don't get me wrong , I am no Pentecostal.
When I pray in tongues it is like I surrender my mouth and tongue to the Holy Spirit and the Spirit starts to speak in languages I do know or I don't know,mostly languages I do not know.
It is good when someone can explain but many times there is no such privillege, you just keep on praying in tongues and at the same time you pray with your mind also.It is like there are two persons praying at the same time,the Spirit using your mouth and yourself using your mind.
Deuteronomy 19:15...at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Some have both gifts,speaking in tongues and translating.
It is not always a message that comes up but most of the times it is like the Spirit is praying with you Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
1 Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
One of the latest messages that I have is that this is the sixth hour!
Thanks for answering. I thought that 'speaking in tongues" had to be translated by someone for it to be true. What do you mean by the "sixth hour"?
adam7gur
Jul 21, 2009, 02:05 AM
Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
Unknown008
Jul 21, 2009, 02:55 AM
Thanks for answering. I thought that 'speaking in tongues" had to be translated by someone for it to be true. What do you mean by the "sixth hour"?
What you are saying here is the 'interpretation of tongues' which is completely different.
For your question, I have too, and the first time was when I got baptised by the Holy Spirit. My mouth was just saying words that I myself couldn't understand and I wasn't 'controlling' it. It just happened.
I know someone, who prophesies. He talks in tongues first (most if not all people don't understand that) but he then interprets it as a prophecy. For example, he may refer to a particular person whom he has never met, never talked, but know his/her name and advise him/her on certain points, where he/she has problems in life.
450donn
Jul 21, 2009, 06:37 AM
What you are saying here is the 'interpretation of tongues' which is completely different.
For your question, I have too, and the first time was when I got baptised by the Holy Spirit. My mouth was just saying words that I myself couldn't understand and I wasn't 'controlling' it. It just happened.
I know someone, who prophesies. He talks in tongues first (most if not all people don't understand that) but he then interprets it as a prophecy. For example, he may refer to a particular person whom he has never met, never talked, but know his/her name and advise him/her on certain points, where he/she has problems in life.
Let me try and explain this to you in layman's terms, something that is more easily understood.
Lets say you were traveling to Spain for holidays. Now, Spanish is not your native language, but you know enough to get a hotel room and order dinner. So here you are trying to order dinner and the waitress turns to you in perfect English and says, why not order in English. I understand well.
Same thing for speaking in Tongues. It is a way for your spirit to speak directly to God without someone having to interpret for him. Not that God needs some to translate for him LOL, but it is far easier when two can communicate directly to each other.
Tongues is for the edification and direct communication with God the Father. Now, when you talk about giving a word of prophesy that is a totally different subject.
Words are given in the body for many reasons. But they are not valid as a word from God UNLESS the word is interpenetrated for the bodies edification and understanding.
Two completely different subjects.
classyT
Jul 21, 2009, 07:29 AM
Has anyone here experienced talking in tongues? (Not those who have heard about it, but those who have experienced it).
What was it like? Did someone have to explain what you were saying? Or did you have to explain it afterwards? How did you feel during the experience?
What was the message?
Serious replies only, please.
I have spoken in a prayer language which is a different tongue. It doesn't feel like anything except praying to the Lord. Sometimes it can be emotional and I can cry but it is nothing more than a prayer or speaking directly to the Lord. When you use a prayer language you don't really know what you are saying the Holy Spirit takes over for you.
Athos
Jul 21, 2009, 07:14 PM
Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
What do you think the meaning of that message is? And is your understanding that you are to pass on that meaning to the world? If so, have you done so before this?
Athos
Jul 21, 2009, 07:16 PM
Yes I have. I was waking up one morning next to my girlfriend. She kept asked me a question and I answered her and she kept asking What? and I would answer her and again, What? I started getting upset from having to answer this question over many times. I finally turned over and looked at her and she had tears from laughing so hard. I thought she went temporarily insane. She saw my look of concern and explained that I was speaking to her in a language she never heard before and that she had even studied different languages in college. She called it tongues, but I knew better. I was speaking a language from one of my long forgotten past lives. I knew what I was saying when speaking to her, but lost it when I was fully awake and could not remember a word of it...
Which past life? Is this Biblical or extra-Biblical? (I am unfamiliar with speaking in tongues being related to past lives).
0EntitY
Jul 21, 2009, 07:40 PM
It was just my opinion of what happened and the opinion of my girlfriend who witnessed it. She was the one who called it speaking in tongues and not I...
N0help4u
Jul 21, 2009, 08:21 PM
Which past life? Is this Biblical or extra-Biblical? (I am unfamiliar with speaking in tongues being related to past lives).
Past lives is reincarnation which the Bible says it is appointed ONCE for a man to die and then the judgment.
N0help4u
Jul 21, 2009, 08:24 PM
I used to speak in tongues and when you get caught up in it like you really get going it is like a peaceful feeling you can't describe that makes you feel free from burdens and you don't want to stop.
0EntitY
Jul 21, 2009, 09:12 PM
Past lives is reincarnation which the pulpit says... and not necessarily what is written in the Bible. These can and usually are two separate realities in my opinion. Gosh, how many Theologians agree with each other on certain Biblical literature? Not many. I have to go by how I interrupt what is written, otherwise I would probably miss the truth I seek...
adam7gur
Jul 21, 2009, 10:44 PM
What do you think the meaning of that message is? And is your understanding that you are to pass on that meaning to the world? If so, have you done so before this?
I cannot be sure what exactly this means , so I cannot pass it to others like a direct message from God.
But I believe that we are getting closer to the end.The sixth hour was the hour that Jesus was on the cross and darkness covered the whole land,three hours before our Lord died.
Our world will be covered in darkness a little bit before the end and this time is now.
I don't think that it is just me saying this, but there are so many voices saying the same thing in different ways.
arcura
Jul 21, 2009, 11:30 PM
I have heard people speaking in tongues and to me it is just gobbledegook.
There was no one there who understood what was said (if anything really was said).
As a result I did not believe they were actually speaking in tongues.
I also know a person who speaks in a language that no one understands but he claims that when he does speak it he is being a comedian and indeed even though no one understand what he says he IS very funny.
He gets people laughing so much they have tears in their eyes.
The man is also a successful lawyer.
So life goes...
Fred
Triund
Jul 22, 2009, 03:53 AM
Past lives is reincarnation which the pulpit says...and not necessarily what is written in the Bible. These can and usually are two separate realities in my opinion. Gosh, how many Theologians agree with each other on certain Biblical literature? Not many. I have to go by how I interrupt what is written, otherwise I would probably miss the truth I seek...
Interesting. I had never heard before your posting that the Bible also talks about reincarnation. I am eager to see those verses in the Bible.
Theory of reincarnation is for Hindus where they believe that whatever you do, you come back into a human form after being born in 860 millions other forms of different animals. Woww... they know there are 860 millions living forms on this earth. Has science counted so many animals both mutlicellular and unicellular?
NeedKarma
Jul 22, 2009, 04:30 AM
Woww... they know there are 860 millions living forms on this earth. Has science counted so many animals both mutlicellular and unicellular?
That same argument can be applied to the Noah's Ark story. I don't think we should make light of someone else's faith.
N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 04:37 AM
I have heard people speaking in tongues and to me it is just gobbledegook.
There was no one there who understood what was said (if anything really was said).
As a result I did not believe they were actually speaking in tongues.
I also know a person who speaks in a language that no one understands but he claims that when he does speak it he is being a comedian and indeed even though no one understand what he says he IS very funny.
He gets people laughing so much they have tears in their eyes.
The man is also a successful lawyer.
So life goes......
Fred
The Bible shows that tongues can either be a heavenly language, a foreign language or of the devil.
Basically your friend is *using tongues* to get attention and it *may* borderline mockery.
Athos
Jul 22, 2009, 08:13 AM
I have to go by how I interrupt what is written, otherwise I would probably miss the truth I seek...
Freudian slip?
N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 08:42 AM
Interesting. I had never heard before your posting that the Bible also talks about reincarnation. I am eager to see those verses in the Bible.
Philippians 1:23 "to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better"
Hebrews 9:27 states, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment."
Jesus told the thief on the cross today you will be with me in Paradise.
The Bible teaches that it is appointed that we die once.
I believe
*why would God keep sending us back to get it right when we don't even know what it is we did in some past life to correct.
* Isaiah 59:1 & 2
Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; our sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
*God is not in the scrap business; He doesn't need to recycle souls.
If we can't get it right the first time why are we going to get it right a second or a two thousandth time?
If reincarnation is true then why are people still so violent?
I do believe there is something we CALL reincarnation but it is more like a host body or channeller NOT reincarnation.
450donn
Jul 22, 2009, 11:01 AM
Philippians 1:23 "to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better"
Hebrews 9:27 states, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment."
Jesus told the thief on the cross today you will be with me in Paradise.
The Bible teaches that it is appointed that we die once.
I believe
*why would God keep sending us back to get it right when we don't even know what it is we did in some past life to correct.Al I hearing you correctly? YOU believe in reincarnation?????
* Isaiah 59:1 & 2
Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; our sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear. Remember, Isaiah is Old Testament. People were under the law. The way to salvation in 700BC was through good works and animal sacrifice. This passage you cited is talking about seperation from God, noting about reincarnation.
*God is not in the scrap business; He doesn't need to recycle souls.If this were true, why then has God so mightily worked through people like Billy Sunday, Billy Graham, and myriads of others who were at the bottom only to find the one true God and go on to preach to millions around the world?
If we can't get it right the first time why are we going to get it right a second or a two thousandth time?
If reincarnation is true then why are people still so violent?
I do believe there is something we CALL reincarnation but it is more like a host body or channeller NOT reincarnation.
Unless I am misunderstanding you , I am having a real problem with your theology.
N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 11:09 AM
Unless I am misunderstanding you , I am having a real problem with your theology.
I think the Bible verses support that God does not reincarnate us.
Not sure what theology you are seeing in that.
arcura
Jul 22, 2009, 10:05 PM
As far as I know and have been taught there is NO re-incarnation mentioned in the bible.
Incarnation, yes, but NO re-incarnation.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
galveston
Jul 27, 2009, 12:14 PM
I was filled with the Holy Ghost in 1953, spoke in "tongues", later priviliged to exercise some of the other "gifts" occasionally.
The "tongues" are the initial evidence that a person has received the Holy Ghost (or Holy Spirit, same Person). A casual reading of the book of Acts will show that the Apostles expected every believer to receive the Holy Ghost, and they accepted "tongues" as evidence that the believer had done so.
In addition to being evidence of the infilling of the Holy Ghost, tongues are also a "gift" that Paul explains to the Corinthians.
Tongues in private prayer need no interpretation, (although Paul says we should pray to interpret) while tongues in a public meeting should be interpreted.
When I speak in tongues, the mind is not involved. Strangely enough, when I interpret, my mind is only sllightly involved. It's hard to explain, but I may only get a phrase or a few words to start with, and then the words just seem to flow without any forethought on my part. In the Church setting, the message will generally be for the whole body of believers, one of encouragement, or maybe correction.
CAUTION:
No one should seek for tongues. The Holy Ghost is received through prayer, worship, and faith.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD ANYONE ATTEMPT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE LIVING A SINFUL LIFE STYLE.
First, repent of sin and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, and THEN you become a candidate for the Holy Spirit baptism. To seek for tongues while clinging to sin is to invite an evil spirit. Remember, The Devil knows plenty of languages.
Triund
Jul 27, 2009, 01:36 PM
I was filled with the Holy Ghost in 1953, spoke in "tongues", later priviliged to exercise some of the other "gifts" occasionally.
The "tongues" are the initial evidence that a person has received the Holy Ghost (or Holy Spirit, same Person). A casual reading of the book of Acts will show that the Apostles expected every believer to receive the Holy Ghost, and they accepted "tongues" as evidence that the believer had done so.
In addition to being evidence of the infilling of the Holy Ghost, tongues are also a "gift" that Paul explains to the Corinthians.
Tongues in private prayer need no interpretation, (although Paul says we should pray to interpret) while tongues in a public meeting should be interpreted.
When I speak in tongues, the mind is not involved. Strangely enough, when I interpret, my mind is only sllightly involved. It's hard to explain, but I may only get a phrase or a few words to start with, and then the words just seem to flow without any forethought on my part. In the Church setting, the message will generally be for the whole body of believers, one of encouragement, or maybe correction.
CAUTION:
No one should seek for tongues. The Holy Ghost is received through prayer, worship, and faith.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD ANYONE ATTEMPT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE LIVING A SINFUL LIFE STYLE.
First, repent of sin and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, and THEN you become a candidate for the Holy Spirit baptism. To seek for tongues while clinging to sin is to invite an evil spirit. Remember, The Devil knows plenty of languages.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I had been to prayer meetings and heard people speaking in tongues. I always thought that they are speaking different languages to impress people. Though I have never felt myself speaking in tongues but when I get connected to a higher power, at that stage the feeling I get is so calm and peaceful and I feel myself disconnected from my immediate surrounding, it is difficult to explain. But I know it is there. This happens at times, when I am praying, or riding my bicycle or walking and thanking Lord God for beautiful day and HIS creation. Therefore, I can understand how do people feel who have Holy Spirit and when they pray. I do not have Holy Spirit as I struggle everyday, every moment to fight and defeat Satan.
Yet I have a question, why do people with Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues pray very loudly and shout at God.
galveston
Jul 27, 2009, 02:16 PM
Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I had been to prayer meetings and heard people speaking in tongues. I always thought that they are speaking different languages to impress people. Though I have never felt myself speaking in tongues but when I get connected to a higher power, at that stage the feeling I get is so calm and peaceful and I feel myself disconnected from my immediate surrounding, it is difficult to explain. But I know it is there. This happens at times, when I am praying, or riding my bicycle or walking and thanking Lord God for beautiful day and HIS creation. Therefore, I can understand how do people feel who have Holy Spirit and when they pray. I do not have Holy Spirit as I struggle everyday, every moment to fight and defeat Satan.
Yet I have a question, why do people with Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues pray very loudly and shout at God.
To answer your question.
Sheer exuberance, ususlly. Not all spirit filled people shout when they pray, but neither are they inhibited. Spirit filled or not, everyone has his/her own personality.
Someone complained, "You don't have to shout, God isn't deaf".
Another replied, "Neither is He nervous".
arcura
Jul 27, 2009, 10:10 PM
galveston
Thanks for telling us your story in that.
Unfortunately I'm still hard to convince about speaking in tongues.
One reason is that I believe so many are fakes.
Another is that I have been told that when I sleep I often speak in strange languages.
My brother once recorded such an instance and played it for me because I do not know any other language well (I do know some German words and phrases).
What I heard myself say was a mystery.
It sounded like gibberish and the more I listened to try to understand what was said the more I was convinced that it was in no language I was aware of (If indeed it was a language at all).
Peace and kindness,
Fred
a1g3b5
Aug 3, 2009, 12:46 PM
Hello.an answer to your is yes.talking in tongues or as us clergy put speaking in tongues is a very valuable gift of the Holy Spirit.. I do it everyday because it brings peace of mind and spiritual power to the believer. I don't have time to really go in to this topic because it involves a lot of teaching and supplication and the understanding of why it is a must for people who are serious about their prayer life,, but what I can tell you is this,speaking in tongues is a prayer language between you and God. It breaks down the barrier of the devil.the devil cannot understand your prayer language one reason because it is not of him or from him.this is a very powerful weapon God give to us upon request.oh yes! You have to ask for it,, and God will give to you,, so hopefully I have help someone with this but it is a very nessesary tool for the serious believer.God bless
arcura
Aug 3, 2009, 10:47 PM
a1g3b5,
Thanks for your offering on that.
I have great difficulty believing in speaking in tongues for many people.
Yes I believe that some can do so but I also think that many are fakes.
Speaking in tongues in the bible was for people from many different lands to understand what was being said. It wasn't for preachers whose entire congregation spoke English as some on TV do.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
a1g3b5
Aug 4, 2009, 11:17 AM
Hello.an answer to your is yes.talking in tongues or as us clergy put speaking in tongues is a very valuable gift of the Holy Spirit..i do it everyday because it brings peace of mind and spiritual power to the believer. i don't have time to really go in to this topic because it involves a lot of teaching and supplication and the understanding of why it is a must for people who are serious about their prayer life,,,but what i can tell you is this,speaking in tongues is a prayer language between you and God. it breaks down the barrier of the devil.the devil cannot understand your prayer language one reason because it is not of him or from him.this is a very powerful weapon God give to us upon request.oh yes!! you have to ask for it,,,and God will give to you,,,.so hopefully i have help someone with this but it is a very nessesary tool for the serious believer.God bless Hello again I see this issue went well but let me say this,, only you can decide that if you are ready for that step in your life,, God will not impose upon you to make any decisions about what you want to do with your Spirituality.now if an indiviual is ready then let him come.Thats God's way,, Well till the next time,, be sweet and stay bless!!
galveston
Aug 4, 2009, 12:02 PM
a1g3b5,
Thanks for your offering on that.
I have great difficulty believing in speaking in tongues for many people.
Yes I believe that some can do so but I also think that many are fakes.
Speaking in tongues in the bible was for people from many different lands to understand what was being said. It wasn't for preachers whose entire congregation spoke English as some on TV do.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
You are missing something important.
John 16:13-14
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
(KJV)
Jesus said that the Spirit of truth is a Person. (Indeed, He is the third Person in the God Head)
He will show us things to come.
He will glorify Jesus Christ.
The Holy Spirit Baptism does so much more than allow us to speak in tongues. In our life, He gives the strength to live a HOLY life.
He gives the endument of power that permits believers to heal the sick, cast out demons, and raise the dead. (Yes, those things DO still happen.)
I know the OP was only about speaking in tongues, but it is error to separate that experiene from the total work of the Holy Spirit in the individual believer.
arcura
Aug 4, 2009, 10:05 PM
galveston,
Yes I agree with those passages and all in the bible...
But...
I still do not believe in speaking in tongues to a group of people who all speak the same language. There is no need for it and to be the gobble-de-gook spoken is fake.
If a person was doing so to a group of people from different lands and different languages I would consider that to be as it was done as the bible records.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Unknown008
Aug 5, 2009, 07:16 AM
Well acura, I would say that talking in tongues is not speaking a language that someone from another country will be able to understand. This is a language only between God and you. No one is supposed to understand this, except God himself. The Holy Spirit is the one talking for us, from deep inside our heart. That means that the one speaking in tongues himself doesn't know what he's talking about. But then, you have another ability, that of interpretation of tongues.
This enables you, through the power of God, to translate what you have said, in the case that it would be beneficial to the people around you. It's obvious that if nobody translates 'important messages', no one will receive it.
This therefore means that the interpretation of tongues is only for the 'other people' to understand, some sort of sharing previously in-comprehensible news.
N0help4u
Aug 5, 2009, 07:19 AM
The Bible says it can be either.
In Acts it says they were speaking in tongues and foreigners understood them.
Some speak a foreign language while others speak a 'heavenly' language.
Unknown008
Aug 5, 2009, 07:24 AM
Oh, OK NH, I didn't know about this :o I always thought that the true 'speaking in tongues' was in the 'heavenly language'. A good point you made :)
galveston
Aug 5, 2009, 01:54 PM
galveston,
Yes I agree with those passages and all in the bible....
But...
I still do not believe in speaking in tongues to a group of people who all speak the same language. There is no need for it and to be the gobble-de-gook spoken is fake.
If a person was doing so to a group of people from different lands and different languages I would consider that to be as it was done as the bible records.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
I have personally be in a meeting where a "message in tongues" was given, followed by an "interpretertaion". It was a large meeting attended by many missionaries.
At the end of the service, a missionary testified that the "tongues" were understood by him as it was the language of the people he ministered to, AND he also said that the "intertpretation" was a literal translation, although neither the speaker or the interpretator spoke or understood the language.
All foreign languages sound like gibberish to me. Earthly or Heavenly.
arcura
Aug 5, 2009, 09:51 PM
Galveston,
Now, that instance you described I can accept for it fits what the bible says about speaking in tongues.
Thanks.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
cogs
Aug 6, 2009, 07:44 PM
I was reading other posts about this subject. When people experience these spiritual 'gifts', the supernatural part is that of the spirit of god. I know someone can lay their hands on someone and pray for healing for them, but it's god's decision to heal them or not. When a person gives prophecy, the supernatural is at work predicting the future that actually happens. So, although we're able to do what seems supernatural, only god has the true power to move his spirit, through a person's body or mind. And this verse makes an interpreter necessary:
1Cr 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
1Cr 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Cr 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
arcura
Aug 6, 2009, 10:32 PM
cogs,
Yes,
Thanks much for that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
chocodrip
Jan 29, 2010, 12:06 PM
Tongues actually mean languages. We all should agree that after the upper room experience when Peter and his fellow disiciples spoke to the crowd, many of them heard it in their own mother tongue. And they all wondered as to how these fishermen knew so many languages and 3000 were baptized that day.
I know of a Pastor who knew how to speak, read and write only Tamil and English. He went to China and when the time came for him to speak the translator didn't show up. So he got on the stage whispered a prayer and started speaking in English. He saw people nodding at him, responding,etc. After he finished and came down the translator hurried towards him and after excuzing himself for being late asked him as to why he needed a translator since he had just given the message in pure chinese. The astonished pastor praised God and shared this experience as a testimony. Now this is speaking in tongues not some jibber jabber that no one understands
galveston
Jan 29, 2010, 04:05 PM
There was one account out of Russia just a few years back where a Russian teen spoke in English. The amazing part is that he retained the English language.
So don't discount the supernatural just because you don't understand everything about it.
arcura
Jan 29, 2010, 10:52 PM
chocodrip,
Thanks much for that story.
Peace and kindness,
Fred