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zippit
Jul 14, 2009, 03:09 PM
Am I on some sort of blocked my greenies don't show up?
And I'm open to any and all suggestions as to how my memership here is going.
Comments liked or disliked its seems I have a couple senior members out to get me and I'm not sure why
Gemini54
Jul 14, 2009, 04:58 PM
Why do you think people are out to get you?
ballengerb1
Jul 14, 2009, 05:10 PM
Have you altered your personal profile? Thenumber of posts you made is also missing. Try resetting your profile.
Alty
Jul 17, 2009, 08:26 PM
Considering that the majority of your posts are deleted because of content, I'd say you're not doing so great.
I don't think anyone is out to get you, they just don't like having to babysit you.
This site relies on the members to give good accurate advice. There are times when your advice is dead on, well thought out and well writtten, sadly that doesn't seem to be the norm.
The majority of the time you just post to start a fight, or to make a snide or rude comment or just antagonize the OP.
If every second post you write is deleted, you have to wonder why.
zippit
Jul 17, 2009, 08:28 PM
I don't think that's fair
Point taken regardless
The reason for the op was my own
Bad all I had to do was arrow down and my reps would show up
That's the reason for the post but now I'm being babysitted?
Everyother is a rude comment?
You need to prove that in order for it to have any teeth
Alty
Jul 17, 2009, 08:29 PM
i dont think thats fair
point taken regardless
What's not fair?
Fr_Chuck
Jul 17, 2009, 08:30 PM
I deleted pages of posts tonight,
Chat speak, arguments, attacking or being rude to other members
You are just lucky I was in a good mood tonight or it would have been a one week ban for the type of posts I deleted
nikosmom
Jul 17, 2009, 08:37 PM
Why do you think people are out to get you?
I second this question. That's a bold accusation.
How are people responding to your posts? I've noticed many of your posts are argumentative. On certain forums, opinions are welcome but you have to respect that they are just that: opinions. There's a way to respectfully disagree with others.
I've also seen you post just to be insulting and that's not being helpful which is that basis of this site. After all, it's the Ask Me Help Desk. I would suggest trying to be a little more tactful with your responses.
zippit
Jul 17, 2009, 08:40 PM
Well I wrote you this
I will move to rectifie the situation,seriously
I'm not here to be a jerk
I have gained so much from this site reading and writing inlight of this I can see I must do way more reading and less writing
Thank you
See you in a week or so
artlady
Jul 17, 2009, 08:47 PM
What I see is that you can be very sarcastic and you told and abused woman that she was a bad girl.I rarely give reddies but I gave you one for that.
You have a responsibility to help people and not make them feel worse.
How do you deal with a suicide ,say go for it? Sarcasm is not effective online.
Now I see that your responses seem to be a little less harsh.
You want people to listen to you so you can help them,if you are mean to them ,they get turned off.
Anyone who is mean makes us all look bad and sometimes that could be a kid thinking of suicide. You have to be more sensitive.
Its real people.
I do see a change.What is your motivation for being here?
I hope it is to help,that's all. Peace :)
Alty
Jul 17, 2009, 08:55 PM
I agree Artsy.
I too have gotten mad at people, heck, I'm human, we all are. It's not hard to get upset about something, feel strongly about something and lash out.
The thing is, we all have to remember that we're dealing with real people, some of them really have no where else to turn but to us. What we say can and does have a real impact on them, so we have to be careful.
Zippit, it's important to learn the way this site works, how the long time members do things, how this place flows. It's not easy to just jump in and start answering questions.
Read some posts, sit back and watch a bit, and when you do respond, respond the way you would want to be talked to. Always remember that there's a person sitting at their desk, possibly in tears, waiting for a response, someone kind to talk to.
I'm not saying you can't disagree with people, heck, I can't say that, I do it all the time, but try to disagree respectfully.
artlady
Jul 17, 2009, 08:59 PM
You the lady Alty! Telling it beautifully! Rock on :)
Gemini54
Jul 17, 2009, 09:08 PM
I concur with the aforementioned 'wise crones' of this site - I know that I can sometimes be tough, and I have over time tempered the tone of my responses.
It's live and learn for us all really - we learn from the other people that post as well as the people that post the questions. It's life.
I should add, and I'm honestly not trying to be rude, that responses are much easier to read when posters use punctuation and reasonable English. You can then focus on the meaning of the response and what it says, rather than trying to decipher how it's written.
Just a suggestion. :)
JudyKayTee
Jul 18, 2009, 06:20 AM
You have been consistently rude and insulting, flippant and disresepctful, given "reddies" and "greenies" that don't even make sense, given answers that don't come close to what is being asked, consistently used text speak and generally been disruptive.
I wouldn't even want to guess how many of your posts have been pulled.
When asked to straighten out you became abusive.
That's why.
I have to wonder why you're posting on AMHD in the first place. Certainly there must be other boards which will put up with this behavior, where you might even be welcome.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 03:27 PM
Well once again we have a op that sends a post and never answers back having said that I just want to say WHEN we have a post where they answer back my success rate is high I connect,one reasons is that I try to only give advise where I personally have experienced some sort of event that the op has..
So do you want to run me off?
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 03:36 PM
well once again we have a op that sends a post and never answers back having said that I just want to say WHEN we have a post where they answer back my success rate is high I connect,one reasons is that I try to only give advise where I personally have experienced some sort of event that the op has..
so do you want to run me off?
Why not post this on your other thread?
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/history-amhd-375636.html
Then we can discuss it without hijacking this thread.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 03:45 PM
Why not post this on your other thread?
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/history-amhd-375636.html
Then we can discuss it without hijacking this thread.
That would be nice but that post was ignored?
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 03:51 PM
that would be nice but that post was ignored?
What?
How was it ignored? I was waiting for you to post your concern on that thread, then I would have responded, as I'm sure others would have.
Now you're getting me to hijack this thread. :(
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 04:06 PM
Thanks Scott, I'm assuming you're the one that moved this. :)
Zippit, what do you hope to gain?
Are you looking for recognition for the advice you give? Do you need to have constant ego stroking in order to behave on this site?
so do you want to run me off?
If you give valuable advice, follow the rules and play well with others then no, you will not be "run off" the site. The problem is that you're inconsistent. One minute you give valuable advice, the next minute you're pouting because you feel that no one is listening to you.
ScottGem
Sep 23, 2009, 04:09 PM
I told you I was not going to allow the other thread to be hijacked. Yet you ignored that. I decided to move those posts here instead of simply removing them.
3 months ago you promised to adjust. Yet here we are with the same old, same old. I'm not going to waste my time trying to see how well your advice has been received. But I don't recall seeing many resonse from you that were anything special.
But your response shows that you are looking for some sort of acceptance, some dort of recognition, pat on the back, etc.
This site exists to help people, not boost our personal egos. If that's why you are here, you will never gain acceptance.
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 04:18 PM
I agree Scott and I'm sorry that I kept posting, I was just hoping he'd move it here, where we can discuss this. Thanks again for moving it.
Zippit, we're all here to help people, we're not here so that people will look up to us.
It seems to me that you're a bit jealous of those with Expert status because you think that an Expert's advice is more accepted then your own. That's simply not true.
To become an expert you have to prove yourself in a particular forum. Many of us have expertise outside of our forum as well. I can only speak for myself but, if someone gives advice and it's good advice, I couldn't care less if that person is an "Expert" or a "Junior" member. We all started as newbies, we all had to learn the ropes and we all had to prove ourselves.
So far all you've done is give mediocre advice, complain, argue, whine and pout. You seem to think that people are out to get you here but really, the only person that's out to get you is you.
You're your own worst enemy because you refuse to go with the flow.
Why not stick to what you know, go to the threads where you can give great advice, don't rock the boat, try to get along with people? Right now I'm back at square one with you. Unlike Scott I did see some improvement. Not a lot, but some. Now I'm thinking that was just a temporary thing because the old Zippit seems to be back in full force.
Also, many times I read your post and sit here at my desk wondering what the heck you just said. I'm not a dumb person, I comprehend the English language very well. You should work on the way you write your posts so that they're easier to understand. How many times have I had to quote you asking "what?"
Just some suggestions, if you really want to stay here and be part of this site.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 04:19 PM
Looking for acceptance no? Personal ego maybe? But c'mon I have seen ego's get stroked everywhere? Why do you charge for you'r advise? You know it's the best or is worth it,is that not ego?
I will chill out and put myself on a week check..
Good day sir
ScottGem
Sep 23, 2009, 04:23 PM
I'm not saying that egos don't get stroked, I'm saying that is not the primary motivation.
And I don't charge for my advice. I only charge if a person wants direct advice via phone. Just another example of how you get things wrong.
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 04:24 PM
looking for acceptance no? personal ego maybe? but c'mon i have seen ego's get stroked everywhere? why do you charge for you'r advise? you know its the best or is worth it,is that not ego?
I will chill out and put myself on a week check..
good day sir
Scott doesn't charge for the advice he gives here, that's only if you want a personal consultation. I don't even accept "gifts" I do this simply because I want to.
As for this ego stroking that you're seeing everywhere, I'd like some examples so that I can respond appropriately.
The fact is, you don't see any of us going on to a thread and saying "Hey, I said that first, I should get the credit!"
You're either here to help or you're here to get an ego boost. If you're here for the latter then you'll be sorely disappointed.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 04:49 PM
As for this ego stroking that you're seeing everywhere, I'd like some examples so that I can respond appropriately.
.
You put those words in my mouth,I didn't say I see it everywhere.
And the examples are there.and the bashing of a newbie that steps on your toes is there as well.
Which is why I made a post that looked into the entire AMHD member list.
If you study the list there is a severe drop off in members in the 350-700 reply. Its like
They fall off the curb right in that area.
Is it because of clicks?
If the numbers are not right you can,call me on it.
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 04:50 PM
If you are so unhappy with AMHD why don't you move onto some other site that would make you happy?
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 05:00 PM
If you are so unhappy with AMHD why don't you move onto some other site that would make you happy?
This is your advise for me/
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 05:02 PM
this is your advise for me/
Yes, and it's advice, not advise.
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:02 PM
you put those words in my mouth,I didn't say I see it everywhere.
Yes, you did;
but c'mon I have seen ego's get stroked everywhere
if you study the list there is a severe drop off in members in the 350-700 reply. Its like
They fall off the curb right in that area.
Is it because of clicks?
If the numbers are not right you can,call me on it.
I'm not going to go study a list. I don't have time for useless stuff like that when there are people with problems coming here to get help.
Clicks? You may have noticed that we accepted you. You started joining our chat threads and we opened the doors and let you in. So much for clicks.
There are people that come, post once and never return. There are people that come, post 3000 times and then disappear. Then there are the people that stick around, give good advice, enjoy what they do here and the people they do it with.
I'm a lifer, I accepted that long ago. I was almost a one hit wonder, but they lured me back in and now I'm stuck. ;)
The fact is you're too concerned with fitting in, getting recognition and it's affecting the way people are responding to you.
At this point I have to question if you'll ever change enough to be valuable to this site.
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 05:06 PM
Alty, you left out that we ALL started here as newbies, strangers, unknown to each other. Every one of us either EARNED respect - or didn't. No one came onto AMHD with the express intention of being named an expert - that comes with education, experience, research skills, the ability to read, write, punctuate, spell.
For some people there's the need for attention. They don't last very long.
Come on with attitude, leave with attitude.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 05:08 PM
There's no big STUDY Alty,
Members are dropping off at a astounding rate in the zone I mentioned?
And NO way was I accepted in chats. are you kidding me?
I just want my membership to serve a lesson you might want to be more open
Clicky
Clik
Clik
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:10 PM
Alty, you left out that we ALL started here as newbies, strangers, unknown to each other. Each and every one of us either EARNED respect - or didn't. No one came onto AMHD with the express intention of being named an expert - that comes with education, experience, research skills, the ability to read, write, punctuate, spell.
For some people there's the need for attention. They don't last very long.
Come on with attitude, leave with attitude.
Exactly.
None of us knew each other before coming here.
I admit that we're a close knit group, but we don't exclude people. There are new people coming to this site daily, new people coming to our chat threads daily, new friends being made daily.
I've never had a problem telling it like it is. If a friend on this site gives bad advice I tell them so. If I don't agree with someone, even if it's a friend, I let them know, on the thread, not through PM.
I only give attitude when I get attitude.
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 05:14 PM
OK I'm going to pull my thumb out my A**
Close this thread pleez
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:16 PM
theres no big STUDY Alty,
members are dropping off at a astounding rate in the zone i mentioned?
and NO way was i accepted in chats.! r u kidding me?
i just want my membership to serve a lesson you might want to be more open
clicky
clik
clik
Really?
I remember chatting with you on the chat thread. No, I'm not kidding.
I should be more open? How? What more can I do to make you and everyone feel more accepted? Why don't you ask around? You're big on studies, ask others what they think about me, whether I'm open, or "clicky".
Zippit, the truth is that I never judge someone on their "status" here, or the number of posts they have. If the advice is good then it doesn't matter who said it, just as it doesn't matter who said it if the advice is bad. I was a newbie once too. Trust me, I learned the hard way. I jumped in with both feet and stepped on a lot of toes. Then I learned how this place worked, got the flow of things, and now all is well. I still step on toes once in a while, but that's me and most of the people here know that.
I'm generally against giving reddies, I don't dish them out lightly. Usually, when I disagree with someone I quote them and tell them why. Not just for people that I consider friends, but for everyone.
The only time I give a reddie is when the poster has been asked repeatedly to stop their behaviour, or if that person is being abusive or giving very bad, harmful advice.
You're acting like a child. Sorry, but I call them like I see them.
ScottGem
Sep 23, 2009, 05:16 PM
this is your advise for me/
Sounded good to me!
This site is a labor of love for many of us. So we do tend to guard the quality of the advice given here to a large extent.
Frequently we get people here who think they are god's gift to the rest of the world. They think they know the best way to run a site like this and the best way to help people. So rather than try to work within the structure and try to fit in, they rub people the wrong way and get jumped on.
Then one of two things happen. Either they learn the facts of participation here and conform to the way this site runs, and they never learn and continue to be ostracized and eventually leave.
So which one are you gong to be?
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 05:20 PM
Are "we" taking bets? If so, count me in.
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:22 PM
This site is a labor of love for many of us
Longest labor I've ever had. ;)
Zippit, the fact is that you have to conform to this site, not the other way around.
You either work within the rules,leave or are forced to leave.
The choice really is yours.
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 05:24 PM
Sometimes I REALLY miss Starby!
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:27 PM
Sometimes I REALLY miss Starby!
I miss her daily.
Someone posted on an old thread in the dogs forum the other day. I was subscribed to it so I went to check it out. There was a post from Starby. Choked me up.
Okay, now you're making me hijack a thread! :(
I'm easily encouraged so don't encourage! ;)
zippit
Sep 23, 2009, 05:28 PM
I opt to stay..
Now can we close this fricken thread?
Stringer
Sep 23, 2009, 05:36 PM
Sounded good to me!
This site is a labor of love for many of us. So we do tend to guard the quality of the advice given here to a large extent.
Frequently we get people here who think they are god's gift to the rest of the world. They think they know the best way to run a site like this and the best way to help people. So rather than try to work within the structure and try to fit in, they rub people the wrong way and get jumped on.
Then one of two things happen. Either they learn the facts of participation here and conform to the way this site runs, and they never learn and continue to be ostracized and eventually leave.
So which one are you gong to be?
I believe that the term Narcissistic may apply Scott, along with a few others.
JudyKayTee
Sep 23, 2009, 05:37 PM
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/where-you-399249.html#post1994695
Stringer
Sep 23, 2009, 05:49 PM
Ben, Rick, Scott, don't you think that enough is enough?
Alty
Sep 23, 2009, 05:53 PM
I think it's time to pull the plug.
We haven't accomplished anything here.
Zippit, I hope that you do stick around and learn to play with others. Obviously you want to be here, but you have to remember that the rules are for everyone, no one is exempt.
Just follow the rules, give the best advice you can and stay out of trouble.
You have to realize that you started all of this when you posted on the other thread. This could have been avoided. You opened this can of worms, so you have to deal with the consequences.
If you're having problems with another member of the site then notify the mods, they'll decide what to do. The mods here are great and very fair.
Good luck.
Fr_Chuck
Sep 23, 2009, 05:54 PM
Closed, and they wonder why people have issues with them