View Full Version : Can Alpha Arbutin and Hydrogen Peroxide Lighten Skin?
Golden_Girl
Jul 1, 2009, 09:03 PM
Can Alpha Arbutin and Hydrogen Peroxide (35%) really lighten the skin? Hs anyone used this, if so how many shades did you lighten and what are the directions? I want to light about 4 shades lighter.
Golden_Girl
Jul 2, 2009, 07:34 AM
Can someone please answer... :confused:
XOXOlove
Jul 20, 2009, 05:47 PM
I don't think hydrogen peroxide can be used as a lightener. People usually use it for cuts and burns. It can lighten hairs too. Arbutin however can be used on the skin.
Golden_Girl
Jul 20, 2009, 05:56 PM
Thanks for answering... I thought no one was going to answer.
tai18
Jul 20, 2009, 11:33 PM
Alpha arbutin won't lighten your skin it just takes out discoloration
Golden_Girl
Jul 21, 2009, 06:08 PM
I read that the Alpha Arbutin can do a number of things. That it's good for brightening the skin, prevent tanning, and helps with discolorations:
"Alpa Arbutin’s manufacturers proclaim that the active, pure substance works on removing “liver spots”, brightening skin color, and inhibiting tanning (even after UV sun exposure) and darkening of the skin BETTER than d-kojic acid and hydroquinone... "
Alpha Arbutin - The Alpha Skin Whitening Agent that Works Fast—Advanced Skin Care and Beauty Treatment Reviews - SkinGeek.com (http://www.skingeek.com/alpha-arbutin-the-alpha-skin-whitening-agent-that-works-fast-too/)
But that it's works better when mixed with other lightening ingredients. But, I wonder what works best with Alpha Arbutin when combined to lighten all of the skin then?
lilgreg1
Aug 19, 2009, 08:31 PM
(Accept my apologies if this is a bit late or considered a bump)
To be honest, and as a user of Alpha Arbutin, it does lighten skin. Arbutin in general inhibits a process known as "tyrosinase", which in more specifically is the use of Tyrosine (An amino acid/enzyme that is REQUIRED for melanin production) to form melanin.
Albino's, or in other words people with color/melanin deficiency lack this process entirely, and therefore are pale white in every aspect, with the exception of blood-red eyes. Of course, usage of Arbutin stops about 30-70% of the process, and therefore over the course of time the remaining melanin wears off, while production of new melanin cells are slowed down. This is initially the reason why using Arbutin does not make you an "Albino" as well. (Only skin contact + reduced production, not complete removal.)
Just a note:
- Using Arbutin requires that you maintain use for months. You may gain a bit of color back if the process of Tyrosinase starts up again.
- Alpha-(Arbutin) is considered 8-10x stronger than the Beta version. Neither present any side effects whatsoever, and in terms of strength, just refer to effectiveness on skin.
-Using Arbutin does affect and lower the reaction of your skin to UV rays, but it is still advised that you use SunBlock with a high SPF whenever necessary. Exposure may lower the effectiveness of Arbutin, or prompt melanin production by a small margin.
- Mixing Arbutin may not be the best idea. Use basic creams when diluting, as AHA's and other products of similar make-up, such as Glycol(ic) [acid], may inhibit the existing effectiveness of Arbutin.
Golden_Girl
Aug 20, 2009, 12:03 PM
So your saying the Alpha Arbutin can prevent melanin production up to 30-70%? I want to lighten about 4-5 shades and then maintain by using a lightener 2-3 times weekly. Where did you purchase your a-arbutin from and was it the pure arbutin or was it pre-mixed into a cream base? And what percentage did you use to see good lightening? I already know it is stronger than b-arbutin, but I still have many questions to ask about a-arbutin, as I have never used the pure or highly concentrated.
meagro5
Aug 20, 2009, 12:20 PM
Yes lilreg1 I'd like to know where did you purchase yours from
lilgreg1
Aug 20, 2009, 12:26 PM
It takes many months for Alpha Arbutin to fully remove 3 or even 4 shades. It's a great skin maintainer however, and poses no real safety hazards. Due to forum rules concerning advertising, I'll be more than happy to list brand-name Alpha Arbutin creams that can be found in a variety of places both online and in specialty shops, rather than direct sites.
Several branded creams that have proven useful through Alpha Arbutin:
* Skinbright Skin Brightener
* Revitol Skin Lightener
* Nano DNA Lightener
** A simple search engine search will find you the appropriate sites or companies that sell these brands. It's possible to find pure Alpha Arbutin, but requires high precision to mix within the correct ratio; highly concentrated Alpha Arbutin will not mix or dilute properly, while too low concentrated is considered ineffective. **
Skinbright and Nano both guarantee first-time results (Upto a shade or even two depending on your original shade) within the first 30 days of usage.
imgorgeous
Aug 20, 2009, 12:28 PM
If you use hydrogen peroxide evry single daay after a cold shower bath I promise you you will look significantly lighter in a months time...
But you will have eto use it everyday or every alternate to keep that look up !
You will love it sooo much that a day you don't use it... you will feel your skin really DULL !
So it's a choice you have to make !
lilgreg1
Aug 20, 2009, 12:38 PM
Using Hydrogen Peroxide solely for skin lightening is highly unadvised. It's caustic, meaning it burns away your skin and is meant as a high antiseptic; using it in excess damages your epidermis, and dermis overtime, resulting in collagen loss, wrinkles, and damaged skin.
The only reason it gives off the temporary 'illusion' of lighter skin is through burning off the top layer of your epidermis, which can be achieved with less reactive, and safer skin scrubs/exfoliates, or even Benzoyl Peroxide, a common used acne fighter.
imgorgeous
Aug 20, 2009, 12:47 PM
Lil Greg.. I have used hydrogen peroxide in my late teens for alteast three years.. it did lighten me to a huge extent... Back to my childhood colour.. bUt I had to use it every single day...
You are right.. it does make the skin dull if you stop using it... That is so true... Couldn't agree with you more.. But as far as wrinkles are concerned... if you moisturise after using hydrogen peroxide with a combo of glycerin, lemon and rose water... that situation DOES NOT arise of wrinkling up...
Besides every lightening agent is harmful anyway... you got to risk to to get what your seeking ! I don't have any wrinkles today... years after using hydrogen peroxide... but yes when I stopped using it.. my skin was dull looking for many months before it recuperated..
But it DOES recuperate.. I know that through personal experience..
And today I am a heavy smoker... but I am still devoid of any wrinkles.. So I don't totally agree with what you said...
lilgreg1
Aug 20, 2009, 01:02 PM
Generally speaking, yes, different people react to different substances in various ways.
Only advice I'm here to give is that Hydrogen Peroxide isn't meant to lighten skin, and is generally more harmful that most other chemicals (such as Benzoyl Peroxide or Skin Exfoliates) that give similar and safer results, despite lightening skin to a good extent for yourself.
You may have not gotten wrinkles or permanent skin damage, but for those with more sensitive skin, collagen deformation, early wrinkles, and damaged skin will occur.
Golden_Girl
Aug 20, 2009, 01:29 PM
It takes many months for Alpha Arbutin to fully remove 3 or even 4 shades. It's a great skin maintainer however, and poses no real safety hazards. Due to forum rules concerning advertising, I'll be more than happy to list brand-name Alpha Arbutin creams that can be found in a variety of places both online and in specialty shops, rather than direct sites.
Several branded creams that have proven useful through Alpha Arbutin:
* Skinbright Skin Brightener
* Revitol Skin Lightener
* Nano DNA Lightener
** A simple search engine search will find you the appropriate sites or companies that sell these brands. It's possible to find pure Alpha Arbutin, but requires high precision to mix within the correct ratio; highly concentrated Alpha Arbutin will not mix or dilute properly, while too low concentrated is considered ineffective. **
Skinbright and Nano both guarantee first-time results (Upto a shade or even two depending on your original shade) within the first 30 days of usage.
Lilgreg, you can pm it to me, that would be fine. I use an Avon microdermabrasion 2-3 times weekly which is helping my skin to even. But, I'm looking for a good lightener. I think that if I purchase my own alpah arbutin, I can properly formulate it myself instead of using a diluted version from a brand name, right? That's just my guess anyway.
lilgreg1
Aug 20, 2009, 02:05 PM
It's possible to formulate it between a dilute between 3% and 5% for best results. The site/company I previously ordered from is under construction, so I'll pm you the other site which uses a liquid formation, that can be combined directly with lotion, creams, or even makeup.
XOXOlove
Aug 20, 2009, 03:27 PM
I think there might be different percentages of hydrogen peroxide. Maybe if you try a high pecentage it will work, but I don't think the ones they sell in stores have a high percentage. If it does lighten skin it might just work temporarily.
Golden_Girl
Aug 20, 2009, 07:49 PM
I'm nolonger interested in the possibility of trying Hydrogen peroxide, I doubt it would do much other than burn my skin. But, I'm interested in trying the Alpha-Arbutin though and try mixing it myself so I'll know that it is potent.
imgorgeous
Aug 21, 2009, 02:06 AM
Lol... Goldern Girl... don't use hydrogen peroxide if you don't wish to... but in proper filution of 2 or 3 per cent.. it can NEVER cause burning...
By the way I have recently purchase a body bleach cream... Firsttime.. am getting slightly desperate
Golden_Girl
Aug 22, 2009, 12:01 PM
Really? But so many people everywhere kept saying that it will burn the skin if you use it too much and too often due to it's slight acidity.
tryin2lighten
Aug 22, 2009, 04:13 PM
Lol.... Goldern Girl ... dont use hydrogen peroxide if you dont wish to... but in proper filution of 2 or 3 per cent.. it can NEVER cause burning....
By the way I have recently purchase a body bleach cream... Firsttime .. am getting slightly desperate
Imgorgeous, which body bleach cream did you buy? Was it recommended to you? TIA
imgorgeous
Aug 22, 2009, 04:58 PM
Golden Girl trust me I have used hydrogen peroxide for yearssssssssss to keep my acne at bay
It never burnt me once...
It is very good for immediate lightening..
And to make sure your skin does not go dry use lemon glycerine and rose water mix ten minutes after peroxide application...
You will lovee the skin your in ! 2 per cent and 3 per cent will NEVER burn you..
Obviously it will sting you probably the first few times your skin uses it.. Because its not used to it.. but it cannot burn... people must be talking about really strong strengths..
Hydrogen peroxide anyway is not recommended to be used in more than 2 max 3 per cent strengths..
Whoever did, did not use it correctly...
For that matter, if you use mono or benzyl in strengths stronger than recommended.. they will BURN THE TEEE out of you too...
So its very subjective... trying hydrogen peroxide is not a bad option if you are wiling to use it continiously to keep up the effect...
It will not permanently or semi permanently lighten you though... by semi permanent I mean products which give you lightening effect for dayssssss... hydrogen peroxide cannot do that.. in the beginning for a month you won't see nay difference. After a month the effect will start.. you will lighten and look really really fresh...
And its effect will last you for three to four days you will like the freshness and then it will go away.. as you start using it more... the effects will go off in the same day by the end of the night.. so when you wake up next day you have to reuse it again...
In short peroxide needs to be used everyday or every alternate day because you yourself won't be able to look at your face dull without the peroxide effect...
I really don't look into peoples opinions over things I have used and have personal experiene with..
People say benzyl works.. I think its EEE...
People say retin a doesn't lighten... I KNOW for a FACT it does lighten along with clearing your skin...
People say peroxide does nothing.. I KNOW FOR A FACT it does LIGHTEN... But in this case I agree with them when they say it is temporary... because that is a true fact. It is more like a quick fix to go out looking radiant.
But then again my personal experience could vary from the others... so I guess they must be right in their own way... but peroxide works !
Golden_Girl
Aug 22, 2009, 07:08 PM
Thanks Imgorgeous. Returning to my original color at the end of the night would make me upset. But I like the idea of semi permanent so that once I reached my lightening goal it will be easier to maintain like maybe 2-3 times a week. Have you tried pure bearberry, kojic, or alpha-arbutin extract diluted? I wonder how much lightening I can get if I purchased the raw thing and then dilute it to a certain percentage? Whatever I use next I will definitely use it with retin-a since it will help lighten the skin quicker and is healthy for the skin.
imgorgeous
Aug 23, 2009, 04:20 AM
You know what golden... wy don't you try retin a for a two weeks without anything else... once you apply retin a at night... in the mornign rub one cube of ice in a cloth or otherwise on your skin... then apply a moisturiser which is not a cream but something lemony...
If you don't lighten significantly , Change my name.. hahaha... call me NEVERGORGEOUS or something else... and yeah stay away from the afternoon sun as much as possible.
tryin2lighten
Aug 23, 2009, 10:07 AM
Is this board still in place to share information and answer questions?? My question was just ignored and I am not a spammer. Anyway, I guess it depends on who you ask the question!!
Golden_Girl
Aug 23, 2009, 12:29 PM
"NEVERGORGEOUS"... lmao. I would have to find a reputable company where I can buy the tretinoine without a prescription. But what is the ice cube for?
Tryin2lighten, sorry you feel ignored. Sometimes questions/answers are overlooked but not intentionally. We don't think you're a seller. For me the best thing had worked was makari night cream, but it can get costly to lighten the whole body and maintain. I do know that whatever you do decide to use, use tretinoine aka retin-a along with it because it will help you to lighten much faster and vitamin A is healthy for the skin. Other than that I have a few products on my maybe list and I know what ingredients to look for in a good lightening product.
tryin2lighten
Aug 23, 2009, 01:46 PM
"NEVERGORGEOUS"...lmao. I would have to find a reputable company where I can buy the tretinoine wihout a prescription. But what is the ice cube for?
Tryin2lighten, sorry you feel ignored. Sometimes questions/answers are overlooked but not intentionally. We don't think your a seller. For me the best thing had worked was makari night cream, but it can get costly to lighten the whole body and maintain. I do know that whatever you do decide to use, use tretinoine aka retin-a along with it because it will help you to lighten much faster and vitamin A healthy for the skin. Other than that I have a few products on my maybe list and I know what ingredients to look for in a good lightening product.
Golden _Girl thank you for your response. You are always very kind and helpful. You always share your knowledge and information. Your name does you justice... lol:)
Golden_Girl
Aug 23, 2009, 02:29 PM
:) awww thanks Tryin2lighten, that's really sweet of you to say. If I can only reach that golden all over tone and maintain I would really feel like the golden girl. But, I hope we are able to find something that works great and affordable soon...
skin perfect
Sep 7, 2009, 03:09 PM
Hi, where can you buy alpha arbutin? Like in powder form or something? I've been searching Google and I'm not sure what's good or bad. Thanks
MAHARANI
Sep 8, 2009, 01:56 PM
Here is one site that I know has been used by members before. Have not used it personally myself.
Alpha-Arbutin (http://www.makingcosmetics.com/Skin-Lightening-Agents/Alpha-Arbutin-p12.html)
Boricua1
Oct 22, 2009, 11:30 PM
You can buy arbutin from a reputable seller on eBay... search "arbutin" do not add any other words, and it will be a listing for the powder active... the picture of the product is just a plastic bottle with powder in it that has a blue top... and contact the seller to buy in bulk because the listing is usually only for a small amount.. enough to only make like a 4 oz jar of cream... I recently purchased 1lb from the seller... super fast shipping and very helpful...
Boricua1
Oct 22, 2009, 11:36 PM
I just started using a home made cream at 10% for about a month... just a little brighter.. but I know it takes time because it doesn't depig so much as stop pigment production so basically I guess I have and go through shed cycles and such and wait for my skin to just kind of process out... don't use this on your face... after three days I got super acne.. LOL... not sure what to do for my face... maybe try a lower concentration...
When mixing your own cream.. I tend to use a hand mixer (like for cooking) to mix it into regular old lotion.. I use eucerin fastabsorbing lotion.. cause arbutin can be hard to mix especially at higher concentration cause it takes 6grams just to make 5%.. (about 2 tsp per 4 oz) so you get the idea...
lilgreg1
Oct 23, 2009, 01:39 PM
I've used Alpha Arbutin on my face before with no real side-effects including acne. I don't think Arbutin has any real property of clogging up pores nor causing acne, so it may be due to using certain lotions or creams in general.
(Then again, I use Salicylic acid and Clindamycin alongside any product I happen to use on my face.)
Golden_Girl
Oct 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
I just started using a home made cream at 10% for about a month... just a little brighter.. but I know it takes time because it doesn't depig so much as stop pigment production so basically I guess I have and go through shed cycles and such and wait for my skin to just kinda process out ... don't use this on your face... after three days I got super acne.. LOL... not sure what to do for my face... maybe try a lower concentration...
When mixing your own cream.. I tend to use a hand mixer (like for cooking) to mix it into regular old lotion.. I use eucerin fastabsorbing lotion.. cause arbutin can be hard to mix especially at higher concentration cause it takes 6grams just to make 5%.. (about 2 tsp per 4 oz) so you get the idea....
Great, thanks!!
Is Eucerin petroleum-based? If so, perhaps this is what will cause the ance.
imgorgeous
Oct 27, 2009, 04:31 AM
ANything that is petroleum based.. can clog your pores big time and darken you over time also.. unless there is an effective lightening treatment you make use of while using petroleum based products..
Petroleum, which I used to use thinking my skin could never go dark, did go dark using it regularly...
Golden_Girl
Oct 27, 2009, 09:34 PM
great, thanks!!!
Is Eucerin petroleum-based? if so, perhaps this is what will cause the ance.
Oops, I meant to say acne, not ance.
sara_c
Nov 10, 2009, 07:14 AM
Hi,
I have joined these forms recently, and learned a lot about whitening. It seems that alpha arbutin is the most safe and effective. I even found a website that cells acids, etc. I also read on another thread you mentioned that 5 % is a good amount of alpha arbutin to use, but how would one know how much is 5% ?
So like if I want to make one month's supply for face, how much cream should I take in ounces and how much alpha arbutin to mix in it?
Also, is alpha arbutin in powder form?
Thank you so much..
I've used Alpha Arbutin on my face before with no real side-effects including acne. I don't think Arbutin has any real property of clogging up pores nor causing acne, so it may be due to using certain lotions or creams in general.
(Then again, I use Salicylic acid and Clindamycin alongside any product I happen to use on my face.)
lilgreg1
Nov 10, 2009, 02:21 PM
Simply put, 6 grams of Alpha Arbutin (pure powder) and 4 oz of lotion or moisturizer would create a 5% dilute of Alpha Arbutin cream. This would last even the heaviest of facial cream users approximately a month if not 2 or even 3. (Personally, it lasted myself approximately 1 and a half month using it throughout my body sparingly, but evenly.)
sara_c
Nov 13, 2009, 07:48 AM
Thank you so much lilgreg1. I also was thinking of adding niacinamide along with alpha arbutin as I read that it is effective for Asian skin. So how much of niacinamide should I add along with 6 gms of alpha arbutin? Would using kojic soap alogn with this combination be too strong? Thanks for your help... I do appreciate.
Violaename
May 31, 2010, 12:34 PM
@Imgorgeous
Please tell me how you used it.Did you rub it on your skin or what?It is like water...
Tried to pm you but your box is full!
sanyia
Apr 27, 2011, 05:57 AM
Yeah but many pople use it and t has no harm if you use the 3% one as its oxygen and water
So please recommend I used on my hand and they glow and also the skin got tight