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Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 10:34 PM
I got the job at Best buy they just have to do a criminal background check and drug test. I'm 17 getting this job but I didn't put down that I worked at Subway when I was 15 since I got fired and didn't care at the time (I was dumb) on the paper work he gave me it said criminal background check and drug test so is that all there doing?

Thanks

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 10:39 PM
Hi, Jeff_2491!

Did you tell them about the position at Subway and/or filled out on the job application that you had worked at Subway?

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 10:43 PM
Hi, Jeff_2491!

Did you tell them about the position at Subway and/or filled out on the job application that you had worked at Subway?

Thanks!

No I left it black on the app. And when they brought it up I said I had no other jobs. (Didnt want to put a job I got fired at since I was 15 and didn't care :confused: )

JimGunther
Jun 29, 2009, 10:47 PM
You said you got the job so I don't see a problem. They say that the next step is to do a criminal records check and a drug test. You can't do a criminal records check on a juvenile, those records are sealed, but you sound like you don't have a record anyway. So all you should have to worry about is a drug test and this won't be a problem either, Right??

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 10:47 PM
Hi again, Jeff_2491!

Did you make enough at Subway that you paid taxes on your income?

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 10:51 PM
I have no criminal background

Yeah I did pay taxes :o

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 10:55 PM
:( I hope they can't find that I worked at subway. I worked there from April to Aug's a few years back

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:00 PM
Since it's a job at Best Buy, there might be the possibility that they would do some sort of credit check. It would be logical at Best Buy for them to do that because they sell really expensive things.

Now, concerning whether they will do a credit check or not, I don't know. Of course you gave them your social security number. Correct? You would have to have that in order to be able to work.

Thanks!

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:02 PM
Well, I won't condone omitting or lying on an application. I've lost more than a few jobs for various reasons but have always been able to find other employment.

I'm also not trying to scare you here.

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:03 PM
Since it's a job at Best Buy, there might be the possibility that they would do some sort of credit check. It would be logical at Best Buy for them to do that because they sell really expensive things.

Now, concerning whether they will do a credit check or not, I don't know. Of course you gave them your social security number. Correct? You would have to have that in order to be able to work.

Thanks!

Yes It is on the application so they have my SS.

On the papers they gave me it says what there going to do and only says Drug test and Criminal background check

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:06 PM
Hi, JimGunther!

Can they do a background on him based upon his Social Security number? I don't really know...

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:09 PM
You said you got the job so I don't see a problem. They say that the next step is to do a criminal records check and a drug test. You can't do a criminal records check on a juvenile, those records are sealed, but you sound like you don't have a record anyway. So all you should have to worry about is a drug test and this won't be a problem either, Right???


So they can't find any records on me if am a Juvenile?

Yeah the drug test should be good I took it today but I was just worried since last week I smelt it cause my friend was doing it. So since I was worried I drunk a lot of water just in case.

JimGunther
Jun 29, 2009, 11:11 PM
Well I know that a SSN can be used by government agencies like Social Services (to see if a welfare recipient has an income) or law enforcement to do criminal background checks, but due to privacy issues private companies do not have access to that stuff. I was a retail security manager in two major corporations and was involved in some hiring and there was way no way we could check on anything using SSN.

It takes a court order to open juvenile criminal records in my state, I understand that's pretty universal.

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:12 PM
I can see where the government can find anything, but I don't know about a store or other place where people who've not yet reached the age of majority might usually seek out a job and be employed.

Thanks!

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:14 PM
So they can't find any records on me if am a Juvenile?

Yeah the drug test should be good I took it today but I was just worried since last week I smelt it cause my friend was doing it. So since I was worried I drunk alot of water just in case.

What do you mean by what I've made bold, please?

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:14 PM
I think they can look at my records since I had to sign the paper of my application. But can they find past jobs with just a criminal background check? :confused:

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:16 PM
What do you mean by what I've made bold, please?

Thanks!

Sorry, Pot I smelt it when my dumb a** friend started to smoke it in the same room as me the room is huge with a huge ceiling and I could smell what they blew out. Just to make sure I drank water more over the week. And I smelt 5-15mins of it

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:20 PM
Do you know someone personally who works for that Best Buy store?

Thanks!

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:22 PM
I've tried the following search, but haven't found exactly what we're looking for here.

What do they check for in the background check of a juvenile - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=What+do+they+check+for+in+the+background+check+o f+a+juvenile%3F&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:23 PM
Yes this girl I don't talk to often but I recently did.
She doesn't know I worked at subway though

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:25 PM
Perhaps you could speak with her, be upfront with her, and see what she says?

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:29 PM
Maybe, Honestly I have the job already and think ill have it. You need to pass the drug test which Ill be good. And criminal background check also Ill be good am only 17.


IDK if you know but do you think THC will be in my system from smelling it last week? 5-10mins of smoke they blew out on the otherside of the room. I have been drinking water to clean my system in case.

And do you think they will find past jobs? There only doing a criminal background check

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:34 PM
I don't think that you'll have any problem passing a drug test.

We're still trying to find out the information about a previous job search because they do have your social security number.

I think that some of our legal gurus who are usually on during the day will know the answer. If Wondergirl is still around, she might know the definitive answer. She has worked with a lot of people concerning job coaching and resumes, etc. who've been in some kind of trouble.

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 29, 2009, 11:37 PM
Thanks man. I'm new here and don't know how this site works still but hopefully she knows the answer should I give my email to her? Or you?

Clough
Jun 29, 2009, 11:42 PM
We don't take things off the site once a thread has been started. It's greatly frowned upon around here. Things need to stay on the threads so that others with similar questions can benefit by what's been posted.

I will let her know about your thread here. She might even still be on here, but I haven't seen any activity by her here recently.

There are a couple of others who might also have definitive answers for you, but let's give Wondergirl a shot at it first.

Did they tell you when you would know if you did or didn't get the job?

Thanks!

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 09:54 AM
We don't take things off the site once a thread has been started. It's greatly frowned upon around here. Things need to stay on the threads so that others with similar questions can benefit by what's been posted.

I will let her know about your thread here. She might even still be on here, but I haven't seen any activity by her here recently.

There are a couple of others who might also have definitive answers for you, but let's give Wondergirl a shot at it first.

Did they tell you when you would know if you did or didn't get the job?

Thanks!

Yesterday at my 3rd job interview they said I had the job all I needed to do is past the drug test and criminal background check

excon
Jun 30, 2009, 10:00 AM
Hello J:

There is NO central data base where people's employment records are kept. There IS the IRS and your STATE taxing agencies, but their records are PRIVATE.

If you didn't put it down, and they don't have hundreds of $$$'s to hire a private investigator, they're NOT going to find out.

excon

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:17 AM
Hello J:

There is NO central data base where people's employment records are kept. There IS the IRS and your STATE taxing agencies, but their records are PRIVATE.

If you didn't put it down, and they don't have hundreds of $$$'s to hire a private investigator, they're NOT going to find out.

excon

I hope your right cause we all made mistakes when we had 1st jobs as a teenager and I messed up. I just don't want them to know and say or you don't have the job :(

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:21 AM
So you don't think they will my past job at subway?

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 10:42 AM
So you dont think they will my past job at subway?
You haven't said why Subway fired you (and I'm not asking you to confess here), but if it was for something major like theft or customer assault, have you matured past those attitudes and behaviors for this new job? Have you had any jobs since Subway? Are you a pot smoker or drug user or something else they wouldn't like?

Excon knows the law, so whatever he says works for me.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:45 AM
No am not a pot smoker I don't do drugs. Just my dumb friends do so I can't wait to leave for the Marines.

No I didn't cause any trouble at subway I have no record. I was fired for not showing up (I was 15)

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:47 AM
Yes I have Ma'am ever since this last year I have been more respectful to others and myself. The Marines taught me a lot

I'm enlisted but I still work out and meet with them (Marines)

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 10:48 AM
No am not a pot smoker I dont do drugs. Just my dumb friends do so I can't wait to leave for the Marines.

No I didnt cause any trouble at subway I have no record. I was fired for not showing up (I was 15)
The Subway job was for just a few months, right? If you haven't put Subway on your application or given them reference names who would know about your job there and who would mention the firing, I don't know how they would find out unless a friend/enemy ratted on you to them.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:50 AM
I worked at this small pizza place for 2 weeks I left because they didn't have any dates for me to work just come in everyday and you might work. And the managers kept saying stuff behind my back. They day I went into quit they said there letting me go

I was 17

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 10:51 AM
The Subway job was for just a few months, right? If you haven't put Subway on your application or given them reference names who would know about your job there and who would mention the firing, I don't know how they would find out unless a friend/enemy ratted on you to them.

It was about 4 1/2 months. No I know only a few people at Best buy and they never knew I worked

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 10:53 AM
The Marines teached me alot
I'm glad you're growing up into a fine man who is going to protect me and all the other citizens of this country. I respect and admire you for that.

But now's the time to start working on your English. "The Marines taught me a lot" (not "teached" and "alot" is two words). Be sure to listen to good English speakers and try to copy how they speak.

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 10:56 AM
It was about 4 1/2 months. No I know only a few people at Best buy and they never knew I worked
Be prepared for a question coming up out of the blue asking why you haven't had any jobs up 'til now.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 11:00 AM
Be prepared for a question coming up out of the blue asking why you haven't had any jobs up 'til now.

I'm sorry for my spelling. I'm not the best typer when am worried about a job.

They brought that up I said I finally want to do something with my live before I go into the Marine Corps

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 11:06 AM
They brought that up I said I finally want to do something with my live before I go into the Marine Corps
When do you go into the Marines?

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 11:08 AM
It was about 4 1/2 months. No I know only a few people at Best buy and they never knew I worked
I'm more "worried" about your references. Do any of them know about Subway?

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 11:17 AM
I leave for Boot Camp June, 14th 2010


I only put downt my SGT and he doesn't know

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 11:44 AM
I leave for Boot Camp June, 14th 2010


I only put downt my SGT and he doesnt know
Sounds like you're safe then.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 01:46 PM
Now I wait for the phone call :(

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 02:10 PM
Now I wait for the phone call :(
No, you're not going to just sit and wait. What other places need workers? Check with the library, the hospital, nursing homes, fast food places, etc. and also, for the first three places, ask if you could apply to be a volunteer. Get your foot in the door!

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 02:27 PM
I have applied all over my town its hard now days. I'm hired just need to wait for results of my drug test and criminal background check.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 05:48 PM
When I was 15 I worked at Subway and got fired (Worked 4 1/2 months there) since I didn't show up. Now am 17 trying to get a job at best buy and they said am hired as long as the criminal background check comes back good. If it's a criminal background check will they find my past job and is that all they will do? (Thats all it says on the paper work he gave me). I have no record. Now I asked this question on Yahoo answers and someone said this so now am scared :(

Most of the time, No.

A criminal background check is a search of court records in your places of residence and employment, as determined by the address information you provide on the job application as well as additional addresses and AKA's (name variations) found through the Social Security Trace (if they do one--most employers do).

The SS trace is the name and address information on your credit record. So the answer is no, unless these past employers somehow show up in your criminal records or social trace, in which case a smart researcher would connect the dots.

If a full credit report is run, then your previous employers are very likely to show up there.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 05:59 PM
When I was 15 I worked at Subway and got fired (Worked 4 1/2 months there) since I didn't show up. Now am 17 trying to get a job at best buy and they said am hired as long as the criminal background check comes back good. If it's a criminal background check will they find my past job and is that all they will do? (Thats all it says on the paper work he gave me). I have no record. Now I asked this question on Yahoo answers and someone said this so now am scared

Most of the time, No.

A criminal background check is a search of court records in your places of residence and employment, as determined by the address information you provide on the job application as well as additional addresses and AKA's (name variations) found through the Social Security Trace (if they do one--most employers do).

The SS trace is the name and address information on your credit record. So the answer is no, unless these past employers somehow show up in your criminal records or social trace, in which case a smart researcher would connect the dots.

If a full credit report is run, then your previous employers are very likely to show up there.

JudyKayTee
Jun 30, 2009, 06:10 PM
It depends on how thorough the background check is - I would say that the firing won't be found out. However, you have to tell the truth when you fill out the employment application so your past history will be revealed in that manner.

N0help4u
Jun 30, 2009, 06:11 PM
They would not find a criminal background for Subway unless you were fired because you did something that the police were involved in.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:20 PM
They would not find a criminal background for Subway unless you were fired because you did something that the police were involved in.

Nope I just got fired for not showing up

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:22 PM
It depends on how thorough the background check is - I would say that the firing won't be found out. However, you have to tell the truth when you fill out the employment application so your past history will be revealed in that manner.

I don't know if I should tell them and they never found out =/

Its best buy so I don't think they would put that much money into it

N0help4u
Jun 30, 2009, 06:23 PM
Nothing criminal about that.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:28 PM
Nothing criminal about that.

Haha yeah, am just worried cause I really want this job before I go into the Marines next year

N0help4u
Jun 30, 2009, 06:29 PM
Good luck and be careful. Being in the Military scares me. My three kids are in the Military and I worry about them everyday.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:36 PM
Thanks, were trained well. They will train everyday depending if they joined infantry which I did. Don't worry but thanks for caring everyone should.

So Best buy yesterday said I was hired if the criminal background check comes back good (Im clean nothing on my record) just worried if they will find my past job
Do you think they will find out? :confused: :(

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 06:39 PM
Thanks, were trained well. They will train everyday depending if they joined infantry which I did. Dont worry but thanks for caring everyone should.

So Best buy yesterday said I was hired if the criminal background check comes back good (Im clean nothing on my record) just worried if they will find my past job
Do you think they will find out? :confused: :(
Even if they do, nothing was criminal, you were 15 and an idiot, and we've all been there, done that. I vote that you will get the job.

J_9
Jun 30, 2009, 06:40 PM
If you have never been arrested or convicted of a crime there is NO criminal background. Simply not showing up to a job is not criminal, but rather shows that one is not reliable.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:42 PM
Even if they do, nothing was criminal, you were 15 and an idiot, and we've all been there, done that. I vote that you will get the job.

Haha yeah we all were at one time. I use to talk about I can't wait to get a job and make money but at that age your lazy and don't want to do much which I suffered from and lost a job. Thanks Wondergirl you have been great. I just worry a lot. Marines should get that out of me

N0help4u
Jun 30, 2009, 06:43 PM
Even if they did eventually find out you worked at Subway they would most likely see that you have proven yourself there and not hold what you did at 15 against you.
If they ask why you didn't list it tell them that it wasn't much of a job and you consider Best Buy as your first real job.

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 06:47 PM
haha yeah we all were at one time. I use to talk about I can't wait to get a job and make money but at that age your lazy and dont want to do much which i suffered from and lost a job. Thanks Wondergirl you have been great. I just worry alot. Marines should get that out of me
I'll bet every person on AskMeHelpDesk has screwed up on a job and maybe lost it when they were a teenager. I even managed to do it in my 20s.

I don't want a worrier Marine protecting me, so I hope they work fast.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:47 PM
Even if they did eventually find out you worked at Subway they would most likely see that you have proven yourself there and not hold what you did at 15 against you.
If they ask why you didn't list it tell them that it wasn't much of a job and you consider Best Buy as your first real job.

I was thinking something like that

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 06:48 PM
I'll bet every person on AskMeHelpDesk has screwed up on a job and maybe lost it when they were a teenager. I even managed to do it in my 20s.

I don't want a worrier Marine protecting me, so I hope they work fast.

Ha that's harsh.
I don't worry when it comes to fast thinking and death honestly. Not really scared of nothing just my mother haha

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 06:57 PM
Not really scared of nothing just my mother haha
Good for your mom! She has trained you well. You are ready for the Marines.

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 07:09 PM
Yeah I am train with marines every when. And swim miles by myself intill put camp

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 07:27 PM
Yeah I am train with marines every wen. and swim miles by myself intill put camp
Where's boot camp?

Jeff_2491
Jun 30, 2009, 07:54 PM
Where's boot camp?

Over in CA close to San diego

Wondergirl
Jun 30, 2009, 08:06 PM
Over in CA close to San diego
God's country -- perfect weather! Gorgeous scenery! Mountains, ocean, plus civilization!

Fr_Chuck
Jun 30, 2009, 08:57 PM
First, I know dozens of places that would fire you for not being honest on a job application.

How do they find out, 1. one of your personal references makes a slip about it.

If they run a credit report, it may ( or may not) be listed as a place of employment

And depends on how long you have worked there before they find out, and how good you have done.

JudyKayTee
Jul 1, 2009, 05:48 AM
You have to decide - if you tell them and then they find it, I don't see it's a big deal. It's 2 years ago, you were young, you overslept a lot, whatever. Now you are serious about employment.

If you don't tell them and they find out it's too late to explain.

Do I think it'll turn up? No. If they hire you and then find out, what will they do? Nothing - unless you lied on your application.

So it's difficult to say.

excon
Jul 1, 2009, 05:50 AM
Hello again, Jeff:

Didn't we do this yesterday??

excon

JudyKayTee
Jul 1, 2009, 05:58 AM
Da-je-vu all over again.

Curlyben
Jul 1, 2009, 06:02 AM
>Three Threads Merged<

Jeff_2491
Jul 1, 2009, 07:55 AM
Hello again, Jeff:

Didn't we do this yesterday???

excon

Heh yeah we did just worried :(