View Full Version : My best friend in the whole world is atheist.
0dignity69
Oct 10, 2006, 02:26 PM
Omg I'm in complete shock. Me and my best friend ever are brothers (might as well be). And I moved away and we both have had hard times since then. And we are depressed. I was just told by his girlfriend that he is aitheist. I don't know what do to really. I can't believe it. I mean we are really close, as close as you can get. We have talked about jesus and god and stuff. I never thought this would happen. I think its his girlfriend because she and her friends are the reason he is depressed and she is aitheist to. I just don't know what to do can someone help me?
charlie123
Oct 10, 2006, 02:34 PM
I would suggest talking with your best friend. Let him know your worries. All that you can really do is talk with him & pray for him. You might could invite him to go to church with you, too. I'll keep you and your friend in my prayers.
0dignity69
Oct 10, 2006, 02:38 PM
Thanks for the answer but I cant, I moved away. And I don't go to church I'm christain but I don't believe in church. Just answer my question future people don't say anything about me not going to church
Northwind_Dagas
Oct 11, 2006, 11:41 AM
Accept them who they are and what they believe. They do that for you, right?
JoeCanada76
Oct 11, 2006, 12:43 PM
Honestly, So what!
You have a friend that became an atheist according to somebody else. Even if it came directly from you friend. You should be accepting of his choice. This friend knows that you believe, you need to continue being this persons friends and just show your friend your love, your caring and he will see how God leads your life and he will see your example and may eventually come to it on their own. Never push, never bang anything on the head. Be understanding and caring and non judgemental. That is all you need to do. God in heaven will reward you for this.
Krs
Oct 12, 2006, 02:11 AM
I agree with Northwind and with Jesushelper.. my answer would be the same... SO WHAT IF HE IS AN ANTHEIST!! What's the big deal.
Im catholic and my husband is atheist ( agnostic )
You accept people for who they are not for what the believe in in what they don't :cool:
Why is this so shocking to you?
Why would it change how you feel about your best friend?
Fr_Chuck
Oct 12, 2006, 05:27 AM
I guess I will agree, so what, perhaps if you are living a good Christian life he will see the love of Christ in you (if you are a close follower) if you are not a close follower, he will only see that christianity is just a Sunday thing and has little value, You are an example for others, and that is how christianity is suppose to be spread by others seeing our examples.
But don't be surprised there are preachers in the puplit Sunday morning that are antheist, and many in the pews every Sunday that are antheist also. This happens because of people going to church for social issues.
And I have friends who are Buddhist, and many who are pretend Christians who play church, ( since they don't live any level of Christian faith)
ScottGem
Oct 12, 2006, 06:18 AM
I'm with everyone else. What are you getting all upset about? I can't understand why you, especially as a non practicing Christian, should be even remotely concerned about your friend's religious beliefs.
I have to suspect that something more is going on here that you aren't telling us. Your reaction is way disproportionate to the situation.
talaniman
Oct 12, 2006, 07:02 AM
It should not matter whether he is an atheist or a sign painter he is your brother (in spirit) so accept and love him for who he is, not what you want him to be.
0dignity69
Oct 12, 2006, 03:32 PM
I'm christain I don't want my best friend to go to hell! That's what I'm upset about
J_9
Oct 12, 2006, 04:14 PM
Well, I bet he doesn't believe in hell, so what.
Aren't you afraid of going to hell because you are not a practicing Christian?
Skell
Oct 12, 2006, 04:20 PM
If you let it bother you that much then I don't think you are the friend you think you are.
So what. Get over it. If he is like your brother then you wll accept him for who he is.
JoeCanada76
Oct 12, 2006, 06:07 PM
Well, I bet he doesn't believe in hell, so what.
Aren't you afraid of going to hell because you are not a practicing Christian?
J9 What an excellent point you made. OMG Talk about funny. It is true, betcha the poster
Never even looked at it that way. I wanted to spread the love but the this setup still
Tells me I have to spread it.
LucyMcgoo
Oct 12, 2006, 10:26 PM
SO WHAT? Let him be who he is and move on in your relationship. Don't blame everyone else for it because clearly it was HIS CHOICE to believe what he believes.
Krs
Oct 13, 2006, 12:47 AM
im christain i dont want my best friend to go to hell!! thats what im upset about
:eek: :eek: you're a non practing Christian, which is by all means worse than being atheist, really and truly!
Can I ask... why are you a non practing christian?
The point you made above makes NO complete sense :confused: :rolleyes:
ScottGem
Oct 13, 2006, 05:21 AM
im christain i dont want my best friend to go to hell!! thats what im upset about
This is an example of one of the reasons, I'm against organized religion. Religion is supposed to provide support and solace. But in this case, its providing anxiety (irrational IMHO).
In my opinion you are being hypocritical, irrational and obsessive. If you were a true friend, you would respect your friends beliefs and lifestyle.
Frankly, I think you need to, quickly, get yourself into a church and talk to a clergyman about your obsession here. You might even consider talking to a therapist. In my opinion it is YOU who have a problem, not your friend.
Northwind_Dagas
Oct 13, 2006, 06:04 AM
Just for clarity, to all those that are accusing this person of being hypocritical, they did not say they were not a practicing Christian--they said they don't go to church. Is it necessary to regularly go to a church to be Christian?
Krs
Oct 13, 2006, 06:11 AM
You do make a valid point.
NeedKarma
Oct 13, 2006, 06:22 AM
That could be a whole other thread Northwind. :D
puppetkicks
Nov 2, 2006, 09:49 PM
There is something wrong going on here if you read the Bible the you would now one of the ten commandments is Thou Shalt Not Judge, so I guess you must be a hypocritic if you didn't know that. You can't go around preaching religion and not know what is in the Bible. So, to answer your question, an atheist is someone that does not believe in God. That does not make you a devilworshiper it just means you don't believe in anything.
talaniman
Nov 2, 2006, 10:22 PM
atheist is someone that does not believe in God. That does not make you a devilworshiper it just means you don't believe in anything.
No it means you don't believe in God.
helixfire
Nov 3, 2006, 12:44 AM
I understand that you worry about him. But if you care about him that much then you accept him right? So if you accept who he is as a person, then you should be able to respect his views as well. Whether you find them negative in the end it's still his choice, his views, his mind. Cherish the time you spend with him now and worry about the future when it gets here.
puppetkicks
Nov 3, 2006, 02:14 AM
Talaniman that is what I said -athiest is someone that does not believe in God. - That is the definition.
That does not make you a devilworshiper it just means you don't believe in anything.-That is my opinion.
talaniman
Nov 3, 2006, 04:49 AM
Talaniman that is what I said -athiest is someone that does not believe in God. - That is the definition.
That does not make you a devilworshiper it just means you don't believe in anything.-That is my opinion.
My friend of a number of years is an atheist, he doesn't believe in God but he believes in the science of creation and he thinks he should be a good human being. I consider him a good person, that why when you say they don't believe in anything may not be accurate, I respect your opinion though and its all good to me.
Sentra
Nov 3, 2006, 04:58 AM
Has he told you himself that he is an atheist?
ScottGem
Nov 3, 2006, 06:29 AM
if you read the Bible the you would now one of the ten commandments is Thou Shalt Not Judge, so I guess you must be a hypocritic if you didn't know that. You can't go around preaching religion and not know what is in the Bible. So, to answer your question, an athiest is someone that does not believe in God. That does not make you a devilworshiper it just means you don't believe in anything.
There is a saying about people in glass houses... Maybe YOU should be reading the bible. Which commandment is "Thou Shalt Not Judge"? The closest I could find what the one about not bearing false witness.
Second an Atheist is someone who does not believe in ANY God(s). So the next step is to define what is a god:
God <LI type=a>A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god. In my opinion, a god is the personification of natural forces. Therefore one can believe in natural forces without personifying them into an intelligent being. And that would make one an atheist.
Finally Tal was right in correcting you. An atheist may be believe in many things. An atheist simply doesn't believe in gods to say; "means you don't believe in anything" is not accurate.
Sentra
Nov 3, 2006, 03:11 PM
I say don't worry unless you hear it straight from him, or better yet, not worry at all. Love should be unconditional, right?
ordinaryguy
Nov 3, 2006, 03:38 PM
There is something wrong going on here if you read the Bible the you would now one of the ten commandments is Thou Shalt Not Judge, so I guess you must be a hypocritic if you didn't know that. You can't go around preaching religion and not know what is in the Bible.
No, it isn't one of the Ten Commandments. It is one of the teachings of Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount:
"Judge not that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother 'Let me remove the speck out of your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Mathew 7:1-5. (New King James Version)
Exactly on-point, don't you think?
puppetkicks
Nov 6, 2006, 09:22 PM
Ok, I am sorry that I got it wrong, but I did know that it said you shouldn't judge other people. I'm sorry for making some people mad but we don't have a rite to judge people unless you're a Saint and have never done anything wrong in our life. Maybe he has his reasons for not believing. Sometimes I feel the same way.
BabiMilokid
Nov 6, 2006, 09:58 PM
There's nothing you can do because there's nothing to be done your boyfriend made a choice to be what he is. Besides trying to influenece him there's nothing to be done in the end its his choice.