By the way, before she said I just need time and space.. which was after she said were done... she said if I didn't like her terms (of her being able to see other guys when were together if she wants) ((yet she says she doesn't want to, but she can if she wants)) that I should let it go then

ok so heres what happend, she called this morning on my break so i answered.
You weren't supposed to be in any communication with her until after 9 p.m.

I know I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself

i know im sorry, i couldnt help myself
So we are back to Square One. Last night was a waste.

It couldn't be that bad now??

Let us know what she wants you to do, since she is the one wearing the pants.

What do I do now

Do you think she said I can see other guys if I want don't tell me what to do... just to make me mad? Because she said she doesn't plan on it but she can if she wants

do u think she said i can see other guys if i want dont tell me what to do... just to make me mad? because she said she doesnt plan on it but she can if she wants
If you are not in an exclusive relationship, she can date and you can date. Then you two are just friends, not bf-gf.

??

She said she needs time to think or whatever, but how do I respond to get her back

she said she needs time to think or whatever, but how do i respond to get her back
I have no clue. You didn't follow the program. You're on your own now. She is still in control and manipulating the h--- out of you.

I'm sorry I didn't, I did that thing that one guy said if she's nice talk to her... is there any help you can give me? Please? Is there any other techniuqes?

im sorry i didnt, i did that thing that one guy said if shes nice talk to her... is there any help u can give me? please? is there any other techniuqes?
If she's nice AFTER 9 P.M.

The only thing you can do is start over with absolutely NO CONTACT.

im sorry i didnt, i did that thing that one guy said if shes nice talk to her... is there any help u can give me? please? is there any other techniuqes?
But she wasn't nice and you continued to argue with her.

What u mean if she's nice after nine?

what u mean if shes nice after nine?
You were not to communicate with her until after 9 tonight. THEN, if she would be nice, you could text, etc. If she wasn't nice, then Goodbye.

Ahh

You can tell her, "I want an exclusive relationship with you. If you are not willing to be faithful to me, I'm not interested."

You can tell her, "I want an exclusive relationship with you. If you are not willing to be faithful to me, I'm not interested."


Then you disappear from her life.

What if she doesn't see other people. I think she just said that to make me mad. And she just wants some time to think? Do I put up with it?

what if she doesnt see other people. i think she just said that to make me mad. and she just wants some time to think? do i put up with it?
Put up with what? She gives you loyalty and faithfulness, or you're gone from her life.

what if she doesnt see other people. i think she just said that to make me mad. and she just wants some time to think? do i put up with it?


Let's see... she's already slept with one other guy, or was it two? Because she was drunk? She's got you right back where she wants you. She's manipulating the ens out of you. What I heard in her twisted commentary was that she still wants to be able to sleep with you, when she pleases... but she's wide open to other guys, too. She might not be seriously looking to sleep with other guys, but she is clearly controlling you, and telling you (in so many words) that she is the one who matters here. Not you. Please take Wondergirl's advice and lay off the texting and calls.

Wow. I tried to say she was manipulating the "dic*kens" out of him... LOL! I knew h*ll wouldn't be passed, but I never suspected that "dic*kens" would be censored!

You we just started talking about sex, and she flipped when I started too. She's like if you really love me you wouldn't of done that and hasn't responded in an hour

After we were done talking about it with each other, then she was like "yah ur all about sex, if you really cared about me you wouldnt of done that" because she was like ooo babe lets talk dirty, so I did.. then she said that and hasn't responded

ya we just started talking about sex, and she flipped when i started too. shes like if u really love me u wouldnt of done that and hasnt responded in an hour
"If you really love me u wouldnt of done" WHAT??

Listen how much longer are you going put yourself through this? Most likely she is laughing at you because she knows she have a puppy in you.

Let her go and move on!

"If you really love me u wouldnt of done" WHAT?????

I wouldn't of talked dirty to her, she asked me too. Then I did. And when were done she said that

Listen how much longer are you going put yourself through this? Most likely she is laughing at you because she knows she have a puppy in you.

Let her go and move on!


She was like your my baby you know that?

i wouldnt of talked dirty to her, she asked me too. then i did. and when were done she said that
So you can't win, no matter what you do.

You are so whipped! I give up.

Call her, let her continue to walk all over you.

Hey, maybe you can watch while she's having sex with other guys, then at least you can still be a part of it all.

You obviously want this girl (good or bad) in your life.

Oh, just so I know, what will it finally take for you to call it quits? How badly does she have to treat you before you grow a pair and leave?

I'd like to know, is there a limit of abuse you'll take, or can she continue to do anything and everything she wants and you won't budge?

You are so whipped! I give up.

Call her, let her continue to walk all over you.

Hey, maybe you can watch while she's having sex with other guys, then at least you can still be a part of it all.

You obviously want this girl (good or bad) in your life.

Oh, just so I know, what will it finally take for you to call it quits? How badly does she have to treat you before you grow a pair and leave?

I'd like to know, is there a limit of abuse you'll take, or can she continue to do anything and everything she wants and you won't budge?

I think she's confused, she's not going to have sex with other guys

I really think she is the one!

i really think she is the one!

The one what? The one that will continuously stab you in the heart and walk away laughing? Ya, you may be right.

Don't u think it will get better? That she's confused about a lot of things? She said she will try and reall think about us being back into a relationship

She obviously doesn't want to end this, because she came back an hour later

I just want to rescue her from all her problems I love her so much

she obviously doesnt want to end this, because she came back an hour later

And what about last night, all the texts, all the hurtful words, all the controlling behaviour and insanity. Have you managed just to forget all that? Have you put it aside as unimportant?

No, I don't think she will change, why, because she doesn't have to. You accept all of her manipulative hurtful ways, you're a puppy on a string and she knows she can kick you as often as she wants and you'll keep coming back begging for more. Why would she change? She doesn't have any reason to. Heck you can't even keep yourself from calling for a few hours, she's got you by the balls and she knows it.

You need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool she hasn't said anything in 90 minutes

i just want to rescue her from all her problems i love her so much

If you love something let it go... :rolleyes:

And what about last night, all the texts, all the hurtful words, all the controlling behaviour and insanity. Have you managed just to forget all that? Have you put it aside as unimportant?

No, I don't think she will change, why, because she doesn't have to. You accept all of her manipulative hurtful ways, you're a puppy on a string and she knows she can kick you as often as she wants and you'll keep coming back begging for more. Why would she change? She doesn't have any reason to. Heck you can't even keep yourself from calling for a few hours, she's got you by the balls and she knows it.

You need to wake up and smell the coffee.

How do I wake up and smell the coffee, without losing her?

Why would u let something go u love?

cool she hasnt said anything in 90 mins

But she's still got you watching, waiting.

Yup, she's got you by the balls, she doesn't even have to try, you just walk over and hand them to her to do with as she pleases.

Sad.

Well what do u want me to do!

why would u let something go u love?

I don't think this is love at all, that's why.

Love is a two way street, you're in the middle of the road begging her not to run you over with the car. Sad thing is, you beg and beg and beg, she still hits you with the car and then backs up to do it again. As soon as you're healed you're back in the middle of the road begging for more. That's not love, that's dependence, and it's not healthy.

I know, I can't sleep and I barley eat.. I feel like throwing up all the time, I have a couple times.. but I don't know what id do without her. I need help

well what do u want me to do!

It's not about what I want, it's about you.

Do you want to be treated like an unwelcome mat all your life or do you want to be in a relationship with someone that's actually nice to you, respects you, doesn't treat you worse then she would a slug?

None of us can tell you what to do, but you asked for advice, you got it and then the entire night you sat here telling us how hard it is and how much you want to do exactly what we said you shouldn't.

You're not a child, stop acting like one. Either fish or cut bait, but pick one and stick to it!

I'm done.

Good luck, you'll need it.

O wow, my heart just dropped.. she just added that guy she slept with a couple months ago on fbook :( omg

I need help

That's the first thing you said that makes sense. Yes, you do. She's like an addiction to you and like any addiction she's ruining your life.

You do need help, but more then we can offer here. Think about seeing a counsellor about this.

Good luck.

o wow, my heart just dropped.. she just added that guy she slept with a couple months ago on fbook :( omg

And if you hadn't been watching her, stalking her, you wouldn't know, would you?

Seriously, you need more help then we have to give, or at least more then I have to give. Everything that's said goes in one ear and out the other.

Take care.

Why does it make sense! She just added him as a friend!Q WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!

Why would she add him? Why. She said he like had sex w her and she wasn't aware and didn't want it

You can resue her but you can resue yourself.

You need to work on healing yourself because you are making yourself sick and the next thing you know you have depression.

She is out living and enjoying her life while your misery and your life is being turned upside down.

Maybe you should get some counseling because your having problems letting her go because your chosing not to.

How much longer do you want to stay in this funk? How much longer are you going beg and plead for someone to be with you?

She isn't the only girl out there you know you have a lot of options.

Why would she add him... why after breaking w me. Then saying she loves me.. and now won't answer. And was hinting about being w others all along.. was she cheating?

Is anyone else thinking troll?

Troll?

Please I need support here.. I feel so horrible and hurt the worst I've felt. Someone please

She's not answering me either...

Now she said I don't have a thing with him, nor do I like him one single bit

She said he's been adding her for months, and she finnally just accepted it

You want help, fine. Go back to page one of this thread, read every post, every bit of advice that you received, then think about it.

If you do all of that and actually listen to the advice you get instead of treating this thread like a chat room play by play of what you're girlfriend is doing, then you'll be fine.

Or you could continue doing what you're doing, driving yourself crazy looking at her Facebook, watching the phone to see if she's texted and continue to ignore all the advice we have given.

Why would any of us stay when you won't listen anyway?

Yes Alty I am beginning to think so.

Steve take a chill pill and sit back to catch your breathe because your rambling and rambling on.

Are you even listening? Your letting this girl take over your life.

Get some counseling asap!

Call the nineline at 1-800-999-9999.

now she said i dont have a thing with him, nor do i like him one single bit

That doesn't make any sense.

Okay she is telling you she loves you too death BUT

That is like one of those break ups where she tells you I love you but its me that has the problem not you.


Forget it and get over her. She is pulling your strings and not in love.

OK.. then tell me one more time what I should do. And ill do it

ok.. then tell me one more time what i should do. and ill do it

No you won't, all of us have told you, you don't even acknowledge that we've posted, you just come back rambling about her Facebook and texts etc. etc.

I gave my advice, go find it, that will keep your mind off things.

Loook please. I rambled on and on because I thought you guys could identify what she's doing, one more time please tell me what you think.. I promise ill listen please.. anything to make myself feel better

ok.. then tell me one more time what i should do. and ill do it

Forget it and get over her.
There is a saying ''let them go and if they come back then it is real.


What she is doing is playing games.
She must not be that in love with you or she would be straight with what she wants or doesn't want.

But she keeps coming back? All the time!

Then you have to be the strong one and tell her that she is playing too many games and you don't want the games so you feel it is time to do no contact for at least two months or until she can be honest with herself and you about what she wants.

loook please. i rambled on and on because i thought u guys could identify what shes doing, one more time please tell me what u think.. i promise ill listen please.. anything to make myself feel better

You forget about her, put the phone down, turn it off, turn off Facebook, don't stalk her and what she's doing.

Grab a book, or a movie, take a shower or bath, do something to occupy your mind and forget about her.

As long as you're stalking her, watching her, you'll never get past this, you'll drive yourself crazy.

That's what you do, it's the only thing you can do.

why does it make sense! she just added him as a friend!Q WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!

I'll tell you. She knows you're monitoring her every single freaking move online, and she's doing this to hurt you. Got it? Clearly, you're texting and talking every moment you can, even after Wondergirl advised you not to. She knows she has complete control over you. Last night, she didn't have this control... remember? When you weren't answering her calls? If I were you, I'd stop looking at her Facebook and quit answering her messages... but you won't. You can't fix things the way you're going, but you can't resist being put down by her. Truly amazing, dude. You got all the advice you need. People are much less likely to talk you through this another night, only to watch you give in to her again.

Ren has it right.
She sees that you are keeping track of her and then when she thinks maybe you lost interest she tries to get you back in her web because she loves the control.
You are wasting your time.

Ren has it right.
She sees that you are keeping track of her and then when she thinks maybe you lost interest she tries to get you back in her web because she loves the control.
You are wasting your time.

Had to spread the rep NH, but right on.

Darnit, had to spread the rep for you too Ren. I agree.

OK I'm not going to answer her. No more.

ok im not gonna answer her. no more.

Please, please don't. Go watch a movie, turn off your computer. Everything she's doing is to get a reaction from you. Turn off your phone, go meet a guy friend somewhere... do you have any guy friends?

ok im not gonna answer her. no more.

Good... stick to your convictions... it's the only way...

I hope you mean it and don't change your mind 5 minutes from now.

I hope you mean it and don't change your mind 5 minutes from now.

Me too.

Time to live for yourself, not her. Go do something, anything but watching her and waiting.

Hope you're hanging in there...

Hope you're hanging in there...

Well if he doesn't reply, it could mean he took the advice and is off the computer... but we'll see.. really hope this dude does the right thing..

Wondergirl agrees: I remember saying something like that 400 pages ago...

You did dear, but you were nice about it. Sometimes you have to smack them over the head with a tire iron in order to get them to listen. ;)

You did dear, but you were nice about it. Sometimes you have to smack them over the head with a tire iron in order to get them to listen. ;)
You young people get so rough sometimes. Lawdy me!

You young people get so rough sometimes. Lawdy me!

Haha... what would you have used to knock some sense into someone who just won't listen to reason?

Haha... what would you have used to knock some sense into someone who just won't listen to reason?
No dessert for a whole week?

No dessert for a whole week?

That only works on kids 6 and under dear. Just saying. ;)

Yes, I can be mean, but it worked, didn't it? :cool:

No dessert for a whole week?

Hmmm... that might actually be more effective that a smack in the head, but depends on what's for dessert, and if I pull out the puppy dog eyes, will you cave? Lol ;)

That only works on kids 6 and under dear. Just sayin. ;)

Yes, I can be mean, but it worked, didn't it? :cool:
We HOPE it worked. What will be on the AMHD agenda for tonight, I wonder?

We HOPE it worked. What will be on the AMHD agenda for tonight, I wonder?

True. I do have more tools in my tool case. A claw hammer, a sander, a nail gun. The crowbar was just the first choice, there are other options. ;)

Oops, I just gave my plan away. Not good! :eek:

True. I do have more tools in my tool case. A claw hammer, a sander, a nail gun. The crowbar was just the first choice, there are other options. ;)

Oops, I just gave my plan away. Not good! :eek:
And you've always seems like such a sweet and gentle young lady...

And you've always seems like such a sweet and gentle young lady..................

LMAO! You don't know me at all WG. That's so sweet. Gosh, blush, you, not so much. ;)

I'm kind when I need to be, but kindness wasn't working here, so I was mean. So far so good, it seems to have worked. ::crossing fingers:: :D

I hope he gives us an update. Next post will probably be a wedding announcement. Until the post after that...

I hope he gives us an update. Next post will probably be a wedding announcement. Until the post after that.............

If it's a wedding announcement then I'm seriously going to rethink giving out advice. :eek:

Sigh. It's time to wait and see. I hope it's worth the wait. ;)

My wedding is on the 17th of Oct... you coming?

My wedding is on the 17th of Oct... ya'll coming?

To the land down under? You know I can't resist that offer. :D

Okay, we're hijacking the thread. I know, it's my specialty, but I'm going to pull the plug.

Back to our corners we go. :)

My wedding is on the 17th of Oct... ya'll coming?
Congrats! That was my dream wedding date back when I was a teenager. A perfect autumn day!

What will the wedding colors be?

To the land down under? You know I can't resist that offer. :D

Okay, we're hijacking the thread. I know, it's my specialty, but I'm gonna pull the plug.

Back to our corners we go. :)

Haha... true... sorry...

Well back to the poster...

So do you think this girl respects him? I think if he doesn't contact her for a while, she will get scared and maybe take the time to realise what she is doing wrong. She does need to sort herself out though... this is insane... and the messages she was sending him last night were really bad... really hope he gets through this...

Haha... true... sorry...

Well back to the poster...

So do you think this girl respects him? I think if he doesn't contact her for a while, she will get scared and maybe take the time to realise what she is doing wrong. She does need to sort herself out though... this is insane... and the messages she was sending him last night were really bad... really hope he gets through this...
It's going to take more than Steve and AMHD to help her sort out what's going on inside of her. And to her, it's all normal.

Well, he does keep coming back to her when she treats him bad, so she never sees that she is doing something wrong.

Hopefully by leaving her alone for a while, she will realize some things...

True. I do have more tools in my tool case. A claw hammer, a sander, a nail gun. The crowbar was just the first choice, there are other options. ;)

Oops, I just gave my plan away. Not good! :eek:

Got a seam ripper in there, Alty? :)

Haha... true... sorry...

Well back to the poster...

So do you think this girl respects him? I think if he doesn't contact her for a while, she will get scared and maybe take the time to realise what she is doing wrong. She does need to sort herself out though... this is insane... and the messages she was sending him last night were really bad... really hope he gets through this...


Yah... I hope he gets through this, too. Truth is, he's probably madly texting her as we speak. He just wasn't hearing the advice. We've all been there, haven't we? Maybe everybody needs to learn on their own. I do wish the best for the young lad... from another Wisconsinite...

Yah...I hope he gets through this, too. Truth is, he's probably madly texting her as we speak. He just wasn't hearing the advice. We've all been there, haven't we? Maybe everybody needs to learn on their own. I do wish the best for the young lad...from another Wisconsinite...

Yeah he is probably txting her, saying he is sorry and he doesn't want to let her go. Yeah we have all been there and done that.. eventually he has to learn for himself it doesn't work. I just hope he doesn't get too hurt while learning this lesson...

Huh she's talking to that guy now. And said she doesn't like him but can talk

She said she's talking to him to piss me off and get me to leave me alne..

So you are in contact with her again? How else would you know why she is talking to him?

He messaged her and told her.

I don't know why. She said to piss me off so id leave her alone

Now she says she doesn't wnt me. And doesn't want me around

She says its scary because I'm so controlling

She said you are controlling? Lol! What a joke.

Seriously, if she is being like this, you don't need her. She is trying to manipulate you. Seriously, don't talk to her and leave her alone.

Wow I'm broken what do I do

Nothing... she seems beyond reasoning... there is nothing you can do. Tell me honestly, do you need someone like this in your life. Do you want to feel this way forever?

No I don't. But this is really hurting me so bad. I don't know how ill recover

Exactly... you know you don't want this forever. You know you deserve better, and she is not treating you right.

Yes it will hurt, but trust me, trust all of us, you will recover and be better than before. You will find a nice girl who treats you right and you will look back on this decision you made and be thankful.

Be strong. You will get through this. This girl is not worth it. You don't need her.

Check out the sticky thread in the forum about how to recover, take your mind off things. The most important thing is you work on yourself, spend time one your own and with friends. You will be better than ever in time.

She said if I don't send her the texts she won't talk to me anymore

she said if i dont send her the texts she wont talk to me anymore

Good, so don't send her texts... you don't need to associate or contact her anymore.

Seriously man, its time to do the right thing. Do not contact her.

The rule is NO CONTACT and that means NO CONTACT, no matter what. You have to do it. It's the only way you will really recover.

Going to bed. Be on tommrow? Need support

goin to bed. be on tommrow? need support

Yup, I'll be here, and lots of others too... we'll help u through this... Take care, Peace

OMFG! Dude! Re-read your posts from last night, until further notice I hearby take your man card. You are letting this woman control every action you do. Today I will give you a list of things I want for you to do. You respond by the end of the day with which ones you've done

1. Change your phone number
2. Delete her number out of your phone
3. Put her e-mail as SPAM(just incase)
4. Delete her Facebook or myspace or both
5. Talk to at least 3 new people, face to face

But at least she had her man with her.. for whole life

... and of course, divorce was out of the question! Even if you hated each other.

I suggest that you read "How To Survive The Loss Of A Love", by McWilliams, Bloomfield, and Cosgrove. It's kind of corny in places, but it got me through the worst break-up of my life! It's cheap, too.

Yes... take the advice we were giving Steve... no more contact! This is how you will heal yourself from the hurting. Talk to you later... :)

Now she's saying she wants to be friends. Then said I'm a possesive creep, and she doesn't even like to have sex with me or kiss me and I'm gross?

Obviously you are going to continue standing behind the horse, so accept being kicked but stop complaining about it. When you are ready to stop being kicked, I'll start with the advice again.

No I'm done, I'm to hurt

Obviously you are going to continue standing behind the horse, so accept being kicked but stop complaining about it. When you are ready to stop being kicked, I'll start with the advice again.

At this point I'm kicking myself. :(

Steve, you aren't ready to hear what we have to say, you just want to whine and complain.

Personally, I have better things to do then try to help someone that doesn't want help.

Good luck to you. Have fun being a punching bag.

Don't be hurt, be angry. When people get hurt they cry about their condition. But when people get angry, they bring about change.


Now, delete everything! Change your phone number. Trust me it will be weird at first, but after a few days, with a unclouded mind you will feel free

no im done, im to hurt

Ya right.

You're done, until the next text. :rolleyes:

No she said very hurtful things, she said outragus things. I'm crushed. I cnt believe she said what she said. Then she said LEAVE ME ALONE! On her Facebook when it said our relationship ended. She wrote on it saying..

"he loves me!! hahahaha

I want to delete her from Facebook

Don't want to do it, JUST DO IT! Trust me!

i wanna delete her from facebook

Please do! Take away the power she has over you.

Don't stop there! Delete her from everything and whenever you feel the urge to check out her profile--stop yourself.

Yeah delete her, LOL I deleted many times and added many times.. now I am tired, I don't want to add again so you do the same and feel relieved :D

I told her off.. she told me off... now she's BEGGING FOR ME!

Dude... delete her. You've gotten so much good advice on this forum. If you're going to keep dic*king around with her, why do you keep posting?

Yeah try to concentrate on work and other stuff.. don't think about it

Dude I did delete her from Facebook

Cool, now enjoy and don't think about it anymore...

How will I not think about her anymore? She's trying to get back with me now... I'm going to think about her all the time, especially at work

Of course, you'll be thinking about her. That doesn't mean you have to respond to her insane texts and calls. You should go back to page one, and read all the advice that Wondergirl gave you. Give it twenty-four hours of no contact. You have not succeeded in that simple goal yet.

LOL man not sure what you want? But try to give her time so that she knws your value.. and things will get normal

But do I really want to be w her? After she treated me like this? Is this real? Or is this a joke? Is she doing this to really get me back because she loves me?or just to mess w me?

Well, give her sometime and leave her alone.. if she is serious then she will come back to you so hve confidence in yourself.. she will come to you if she is serious.. now ignore her calls and texts

Steve take a deep breathe and gather your thoughts.

Try to stop thinking about the what and if.

She treated you poorly and that is a fact. Remember that and read the responses everyone gave you and listen to it.

but do i really wanna be w her? after she treated me like this? is this real? or is this a joke? is she doing this to really get me back because she loves me?or just to mess w me?

My vote, she's messing with you. Love isn't cruel.

Will you listen though? No, that much is painfully obvious. :(

:( I don't want to get sucked into another trap.. she said "you dont have to be like this"
Then I said I'm done, she said "why :("
Then she said "i lost you"

I deleted all her comments, pics. And her Facebook prfile..

i deleted all her comments, pics. and her facebook prfile..

Then how do you know what she's saying?

She's texting me. Lol she said sorry I'm not good enough.. putting it all on me

shes texting me. lol she said sorry im not good enough.. putting it all on me

Why are you reading her texts?

You really don't want help, do you?

What's the big deal if I read them? I'm not going to not look at my phone I have a lot of friends I talk to

whats the big deal if i read them? im not going to not look at my phone i have alot of freinds i talk to

If it's not a big deal then why are you stressing about it? Why are we hearing about it?

Sounds like it is a big deal.

I'm thinking you're beyond help. You don't really want advice at all, you just want someone to whine to.

Think what u want. I came on here for advice

Then take our advice and listen to us. We know what we are talking about too. Don't look at your phone, Don't contact her, Do other things. LISTEN!

think what u want. i came on here for advice

LMAO! No you don't, you come on her to whine and complain.

Advice you got, over and over and over and over again.

I'm done. You're a lost cause.

I'd be very surprised if anyone wastes any more time on this.

You do realize that we do this for free, right? There are other people that come here and actually listen to what we say. You're not one of those people.

190 posts in 2 days, all on this thread, the majority of it a play by play of what she's saying to you, what she's doing to you and a whole lot of "Woe is me".

Why don't you call her, get on your knees and beg her forgiveness, you know you want to, you know you will eventually, why put it off?

Sigh. I'm going to go bang my head on a desk, it's more productive.

Good luck.

Then take our advice and listen to us. We know what we are talking about too. Don't look at your phone, Don't contact her, Do other things. LISTEN!

How many times has this advice been given? 200? 300? More?

It's falling on deaf ears. He doesn't want advice.

OK ill listen. I'm sorry I just did play by play because I didn't know what was going on and I thought it would help.. I really appreciate you helping.

ok ill listen. im sorry i just did play by play because i didnt know what was going on and i thought it would help.. i really appreciate u helping.

And you've said this more then a dozen times too.

I'm not you, I don't fall for the same line over and over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Steve - forget her and get a real girlfriend. This girl is taking you for a R.I.D.E. Get off at the next exit fast or face HER consequences. There is no other answer for this. She is a child posing as a maybe adult in a woman's body. Get a clue. She is immature and needs to grow up.

You should look elsewhere for someone else. This chick is way too messed up headwise by her mama for you or any other man right now and needs to grow up. Maybe in a few years once she's lived on her own and can think for herself you might get back together with her, but right now she is way too messed up for you or anyone else.

You will be used and used daily by her. So either get over her and move on or keep being used. It's your choice.

That's just my 2 cents as I can see no viable happy ending to your miserable situation with her using you emotionally.

So if I don't contact her.. how will I know if she's fooling me?

ok ill listen. im sorry i just did play by play because i didnt know what was going on and i thought it would help.. i really appreciate u helping.

Ok then , if you really do appreciate our help, then listen to us. You want advice, we are giving it. Listen to us

Stop reading her messages, its hurting you, which is what she wants.

Do not contact her, again, that is what she wants, it gives her the power again.

Forget about this girl, because as much as you love her, she is not right for you.

Think about yourself, do what you need to do and make yourself happy. This time it is all about you. You will get through this. BE STRONG

If she is not your girl friend, then she is not fooling around she is just dating.

And the other point, you should not care, don't need to know and move on

if she is not your girl friend, then she is not fooling around she is just dating.

And the other point, you should not care, don't need to know and move on

What do u mean from the first line?

Ok then , if you really do appreciate our help, then listen to us. You want advice, we are giving it. Listen to us

Stop reading her messages, its hurting you, which is what she wants.

Do not contact her, again, that is what she wants, it gives her the power again.

Forget about this girl, because as much as you love her, she is not right for you.

Think about yourself, do what you need to do and make yourself happy. This time it is all about you. You will get through this. BE STRONG

Thanks so much, I will still be posting as I need experts for advice still... it helps me vent a little

Yes, venting a little is fine, but telling us what she is saying when we told you not to look at her messages or reply is not listening to our advice. If you need to vent, write in a journal or on your computer or something. A forum is where you ask for advice, get it, and if you want, listen to it. If you don't like the advice or aren't going to listen to it, then this is not the place for you. Just letting you know.

Basically, ask questions, get advice, then listen or don't listen, but don't keep asking the same questions over and over again is you are not willing to take the advice we give.

Steve... you came here asking for advice. Everybody gave you good advice. Don't contact this girl for twenty-four hours. Don't even read her texts! Turn off your phone. This is your third night doing the same stupid thing over and over, with the same stupid results. Try our plan once, and see how it goes.

OK, ill give it a try. Ill report back tomorrow

ok, ill give it a try. ill report back tommorrow

Yup, 24 hours. See how it goes and seriously stick to it.

NO contact

DON'T read her messages

Don't even think about her. Do other things...

WOW , this is a long thread :eek:

Steve

People on here (some very smart people I might add ) have told you what you should do and how you should go about it. Rather than going back and forth over old ground and asking the same thing over and over its now up to you. People are going to get sick of it and will eventually get sick of reading and answering.

So now you have a decision to make , you ignore the advise and stay stuck until you come to your senses and finally stop wasteing more time wallowing in self pity OR take the advice and start using it , sure come back and discuss your progress and we'll all be here to listen to you vent and help you get through it.

DECISION TIME!!