I was watching Joel Rosenberg's talk with Glenn Beck on Youtube. This is a 5 part video. Joel is incredible. Then I bumped into another 7 part video on Youtube which is called "The End Times". The End Times is a wonderful video. Did anyone see these videos? And what do you think about Joel Rosenberg?

I am also looking at the things happening around us and those are in line with prophecies in the Bible. How many are saying that we are heading into the end times? I am not sure whether we have already entered the period of end times. Yet I have not forgotten that Jesus has said that the no body knows the final hour. Does any one has more to share on the end times?

The intersting thing about end times, every generation thinks this is the end. Are you heading, of course since every year is one year closer to some date.

Even the early church thought they would be the end, many felt it was only a few years after christs rising that it would come.

Those in all eras of church history felt it was the time.

So we can feel it is the time, till the next generation proves us wrong perhaps.

That is the trick about the end time, we will not know it, till it happens, the theft in the night

There are many bible scholars that truly believe that the earth is in the last days. Not as it was seen 2000 years ago, but because so many prophesies have already been fulfilled that we are in the end of the last days. Check out Grant Jeffries for one.

Jesus gave ONE specific prophecy concerning the end.

Matt 24:14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
(KJV)

The Apostles took the gospel of the kingdom to the then known world, but obviously the end didn't come then.

However, in my lifetime I have observed the gospel being taken around the world, and it is not likely that there is a NATION (I did not say individual) that has not heard the gospel. If there are, their number is few.

So from that stand point, there is NO prophecy that must be fulfilled before the end of the Church Age.

Maranatha

We have been in the end of times for 2000 years.
For Jesus to return the third temple must be built on Temple Mount and the anti-Christ booted out.
At present Temple Mount is under control of Islam peoples via and agreement with the Jews who do have ownership of that mount.
Moneys are beenung gathed for the rebuilding of the Temple of Yahweh.
A great dispute is now going on concerning the mount.
I fear that it will be a long time before the third temple is built.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcira)
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We have been in the end of times for 2000 years.
For Jesus to return the third temple must be built on Temple Mount and the anti-Christ booted out.
At present Temple Mount is under control of Islam peoples via and agreement with the Jews who do have ownership of that mount.
Moneys are beenung gathed for the rebuilding of the Temple of Yahweh.
A great dispute is now going on conserning the mount.
I fear that it will be a long time before the third temple is built.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcira)
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You are still not getting that the Churh age will end before the Great Tribulation period, during which time the Temple will be rebuilt. The actual construction time could be very short.

You are still not getting that the Churh age will end before the Great Tribulation period, during which time the Temple will be rebuilt. The actual construction time could be very short.
Does God have a copy of this plan? He certainly will have to go through a lot of hoops before He can end the world.

[QUOTE=Wondergirl;1709157]Does God have a copy of this plan? QUOTE]

You betcha!

You betcha!
Most of the Christians in the world don't agree that this is His plan.

Most of the Christians in the world don't agree that this is His plan.



HUH??
If God is God what hoops will HE need to go through to get anything done? HE certainally will not need the help or approval of people to do what he has promised to do in the last days. Most of which has already been accomplished BTW!

I agree with FR.CHUCK.

Everybody thinks they are in the end times.

There are some preachers that preach the doom and gloom. That the end of the world is coming now. In this generation. Or some even have the nerve to predict certain dates, the world will end. The thing is, God is the only one that knows. I personally do not believe it ever ends. Life is on going one way or another.

If this place is done, then another place will be created.

I also feel that if this world does end or we all parish it will be our own doing. We are slowly destroying this world.

Joe

EDIT: The coming of christ will happen WHEN NO ONE EXPECTS IT. As long as we are all expecting it, it will not happen.

Jesushelper,

It doesn't say NO ONE will expect it... and last time I checked... not very many people expect it. Just take a look at this so called Christian board... not many are "expecting" it.

The second coming will not take place until the 7year tribulation period and the anti christ, but I do believe THIS generation will see it. Jesus said we CAN know about when... even when it is at the door.

The second coming will not take place until the 7year tribulation period and the anti christ
And, again, most of Christianity doesn't espouse this teaching.

WG,

That's a shame... but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.

WG,

That's a shame....but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.
So only a small segment of Christianity has "truth"?

WG,

That's a shame....but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.

The truth is no one knows the day, the hour, the minute, the second. Except for God and only God. That is the truth.

Joe

WG,

Beats me... I only know that God's Word is absolute truth and that no scripture is of private interpretation, we need to have the Holy Spirit to even understand it fully, we must rightly divide it , put it in context and not add or subtract from it. IF ONE does this, I DO believe there would not be the divisions we find now. I don't care how many believe it, last time I checked it was a VERY SMALL "segment" that believe the Lord Jesus Christ when he was here.

The truth is no one knows the day, the hour, the minute, the second. Except for God and only God. That is the truth.

Joe

Joe,

Now THAT is truth! ;)

VERY SMALL "segment"
Guess you guys will get the best seats then.

YUP! We will have a front row seat at the final battle for all of the souls of this earth.

YUP! We will have a front row seat at the final battle for all of the souls of this earth.
I'll already be busy in the celestial kitchen baking brownies for your snack after the battle.

I'll already be busy in the celestial kitchen baking brownies for your snack after the battle.

Can I be the server?

Wondergirl.
That sounds great.
I like my brownies warm and with milk or fresh coffee.
I'll also volunteer to help serve the lotsa folks there.
Fred

Wondergirl.
That sounds great.
I like my brownies warm and with milk or fresh coffee.
I'll also volunteer to help serve the lotsa folks there.
Fred
You want to usher, Fred? Sell hot dogs in the stands? Pour milk and coffee?

Can I be the server?
Will you frost the brownies for me?

Would love to do that job. Hope you do not mind me taste testing first..?

Wondergirl ,
Any way that I can help, I will.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Would love to do that job. Hope you do not mind me taste testing first...????
You, Joe, yes, of course.

Wondergirl ,
Any way that I can help, I will.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
You may have to help me feed the cats before the other celestial kitchen helpers and I serve the evening's banquet. Here, please fold these napkins while you are sitting there. Thanks! We want to have a backlog ready to put onto the tables.

Wondergirl
Very good to plan ahead like that.
Fred

Hey folks, you all are great..! Thanks for turning this thread to a humorous lane. I love it.

I agree with what all is said. I know even any angel would not know the specific time of Jesus' second coming. Yet, I think that either we are approaching the beginning of the end times phase or we have already into that phase. The predictions in the Bible did not happen for more than two thousand years ago, have started happening. Birth of Isreal, global TV and internet has connected most of the people and this network is ever expanding every hour of the day, a chip insert in bodies rather than cards is coming soon, more and more people are coming to HIM and many are turning away too, people have started claiming themselves to be god, remember Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda and others? There are so many things happening. Gog and Magog, Armageddon, ruling of Anti-Christ and his bringing peace to the whole world yet to come.

The point I want to make here is that HIS second coming is inevitable, whether we see HIM coming down on the Earth or the next generation, but are we ready to receive Lord Jesus? Will HE take us with HIM? Are we doing what qualifies us to be called HIS people?

Yet, I think that either we are approaching the begining of the end times phase or we have already into that phase.
We have been in the End Times since Jesus ascended into heaven. Just like when a baby is born, it then already has only death ahead.

Come, Lord Jesus!

We have been in the End Times since Jesus ascended into heaven. Just like when a baby is born, it then already has only death ahead.

Come, Lord Jesus!

However, after a child's birth, there is always time for him to grow, enjoy and live life. Unless life is cut short by an accident, we see signs of death nearing.

However, after a child's birth, there is always time for him to grow, enjoy and live life. Unless life is cut short by an accident, we see signs of death nearing.
The minute we are born, we are already dying.

There are many bible scholars that truly believe that the earth is in the last days. Not as it was seen 2000 years ago, but because so many prophesies have already been fulfilled that we are in the end of the last days. Check out Grant Jeffries for one.

I think that when you are looking for fulfilled prophesies , you will find them. It is like those silly horoscopes. Some people read them and actually believe them. You can convince yourself that anything is true if you want to believe it.

WG,

Beats me...I only know that God's Word is absolute truth and that no scripture is of private interpretation, we need to have the Holy Spirit to even understand it fully, we must rightly divide it , put it in context and not add or subtract from it. IF ONE does this, i DO believe there would not be the divisions we find now. I don't care how many believe it, last time i checked it was a VERY SMALL "segment" that believe the Lord Jesus Christ when he was here.

Your posts sound like God sat down yesterday with his dictaphone. His secretary then typed it up and sent it to the publisher. Like there was no room for any change from his initial intent to what you sit down and read in English today.
I think that is a HUGE assumption and not a very realistic one

I think that when you are looking for fulfilled prophesies , you will find them. It is like those silly horoscopes. Some people read them and actually believe them. You can convince yourself that anything is true if you want to believe it.


And yet, things that were written more than two thousand years ago in the Word of God have actually come to pass exactly like He said? When you read more than one hundred prophesies in the Bible that have already come to pass it should make you wonder if there is something to this God of ours?

Perhaps it is the end times for each...

Our race is constantly advancing and redefining who we are, and how we live our impact upon this earth and so on. Perhaps it is the end of our heritage, and the beginning of a new race.

Perhaps the world of farie will come back, and there will be elves, and magic, and Ocrs, and dragons, Phoenix, unicorns. We really don't know do we.

Oooo, maybe we'll be greeted by Jedis, I hope it's not the other guys, the sith lords. Eeek.

May peace and kindness be with you.

450donn,
Good point.
Well made,
Fred

Your posts sound like God sat down yesterday with his dictaphone. His secretary then typed it up and sent it to the publisher. Like there was no room for any change from his initial intent to what you sit down and read in English today.
I think that is a HUGE assumption and not a very realistic one

Cozyk,

God has revealed everything we need to know in His Word. He places it above his name. It isn't just a story, a book, a bunch of thoughts that can be reconsidered depending on what era we live in. It is what it is. . it is a HUGE assumption to think He would go back and change one WORD in it. He didn't make a mistake... it IS absolute truth and truth never changes.

classyT,
God inspired men to write the Holy Scriptures in the bible and they did so from their current knowledge and culture.
They could not so otherwise.
The same for those who are inspired to write today.
I'm a published author and so I know that I can be inspired but cannot write beyong my level of knowledge and culture background.
When reading and studying the bible that should be kept in mind.
If God insisted on the writing to be with His infinite and perfect knowledge and understanding it would be way far over the heads of the smartest people in this world.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Fred,

Hmmm? Well I don't agree with you in that some of these guys were writing things that was NOT within there current Knowledge or culture. I believe in the book of Revelation, John had NO IDEA what he was actually describing and he did it the best he could with what he knew . He is one example, I believe Daniel also was given visions and dreams he really didn't understand. When GOD is the one that is Inspiring and he is the AUTHOR he can use mere man and that man doesn't have to completely understand it.

AND I think the bible is waay over our heads even for the smartest of people. That is why the natural man can't understand the Bible... it takes GOD (the HOLY SPIRIT) to enlighten what has been written.

So Fred, can I read one of your books? You should let me know what you have had published... that is totally COOL.

classyT,
God inspired men to write the Holy Scriptures in the bible and they did so from their current knowledge and culture.
They could not so otherwise.
The same for those who are inspired to write today.
I'm a published author and so I know that I can be inspired but cannot write beyong my level of knowledge and culture background.
When reading and studying the bible that should be kept in mind.
If God insisted on the writing to be with His infinite and perfect knowledge and understanding it would be way far over the heads of the smartest people in this world.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Wonderful Fred. I did not know you are an author. What do you write on?

I think when God inspires someone to write HIS words, that means, God is controlling the mind of the person and giving him the thoughts to put down in writing. HE uses humans as a channel to pass on HIS word. That's why we have the Bible and we believe that it is the word of God. I don't think that God would restrict HIS word to cultural background or the knowledge of that person. Whoever HE deems fit to convey His message, HE would use him/her.

If we look in the OT, HE used few people to write down HIS future plan for this earth. Now why did HE chose them, only HE can tell us. Yet whatever they wrote thousands of years ago, has happened and is happening. Prophecies about Jesus had come true. What Jesus had said has come true. In Old times, there were people who would talk to God directly and convey HIS messages to people and their rulers and bring their queries to God. Why we do not have them in modern age, perhaps we are too corrupt. There are people who can tell future, how do they do it, why do they have this special power only and not everyone, we don't know.

Triund,
I understand your wondering for I do a lot of it.
You asked about what I write.
I have written sveral short stories which are legends abot biblical happenings,
My novel is about the just prior to the end of this age battle between the spiritual and human forces of good against those of evil.
The novel is, "Angels' Tread; The king of Shadows" and it is available on Amazon the last I looked, or by mail from me.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Triund,
I understand your wondering for I do a lot of it.
You asked about what I write.
I have written sveral short stories which are legends abot biblical happenings,
My novel is about the just prior to the end of this age battle between the spiritual and human forces of good against those of evil.
The novel is, "Angels' Tread; The king of Shadows" and it is available on Amazon the last I looked, or by mail from me.
Peace and kindness,
Fred


Thanks Fred, I will check it out.