For the past two years my husband has had a woman friend at our child's ball games. She is married and her children play too. She always seems to be talking and flirting with my husband and him with her. I did not go to the park very often and my husband would come home saying the other parents think that he is a single father. He mentions her name more than I want to hear it. When I do go to the games, she is very indifferent towards me. Our relationship has had its ups and downs, but I don't see my husband as a cheater type. LOL My husband went on a camping trip last summer with our child and this woman and her family. My child was on the same team as hers. This year my child has hardly spoken a word to her kids. (they are not on the same team) My husband continues the relationship with her and he and her family are planning another trip this summer but this time I am going. I don't have anything in comon with them. We are years older than them too. I don't feel comfortable with this, but my husband is really looking forward to the trip. I have no proof that there is something going on, but it just does not feel right to me. How can I stop this trip from happening and not making it into a big deal with me being the bad guy?

Hmmm, difficult situation.

I suggest talking to your husband, let him know how you feel, be sure to let him know you don't think anything is going on between them but just that it's making you feel uncomfortable. See what he says, and try to work it out. Then maybe he can pick up on the clues that you feel uncomfortable and need him to pay attention to you then so you don't feel akward. You know?

Trust is important, but he has to trust you to tell him when you feel such unsettling feelings. Right?

Peace and kindness be with you.

Time to have a long talk with him I'd suggest. Not the blaming, you don't tell me anything sort of talk but one where you genuinely try and find out what his motivations are regarding the friednship, the camping trip (and of course the woman). In any case, if you're uncomfortable and suspicious you need to find out why.

It could just be that she pays him more attention than you do and he enjoys this, or, perhaps they just enjoy the games together. It may pay to be friendlier to the woman and go on the camping trip to set your mind at rest.

Well, in order to clear your conscience and not feel like the bad guy, I think you need to communicate with your husband. Just tell him in a clear and slow manner how you feel inside... the best time is before bed when it is just the two of you alone. And tell him... you know it is healthy to be jealous in a relationship... just be matured about it, do not over react but always let him know your inner feelings... you both will get closer.

For the past two years my husband has befriended a woman at my child's ball games. Her children were on the same team as mine last year. She is married and lives in our same town. Last year my husband and my child went on a camping trip with her and her family. I did not go. This season her children have not even spoken a word to my child (not on the same team) but the friendship between her and my husband continues. They planned another trip for this summer. I am going too. When I go to the ball field she is very indifferent to me. Does not even say hello. My relationship has had its ups and downs, but I don't see my husband as the cheating type. LOL I don't have any proof that there is something going on but it just does not feel right. I have nothing in common with this family and we are years older than them. I really do not want this trip to happen but my husband is so looking forward to it. How can I stop it and not make it a big deal with me being the bad guy?

You are uncomfortable because neither you nor your child has a relationship with this woman or her family. I presume that you would feel different if there were a four-way friendship among the adults, and I presume that her husband is going on the camping trip.

If you truly don't want the trip to happen at all, you have to be willing to be heard and understood. That could end up making you the bad guy, but that's a risk you have to take.

How you tell your husband is important and you have to tell him. Anger, annoyance, complaining, and even trying to convince him that your discomfort is well founded would be mistakes. This is one of those things that can spark a serious argument, as well as something that can bring you closer together.

If you tell him that you appreciate the fact that he has a friendship with her (what is her husband's participation?) yet you and she have nothing in common, no cordiality, no wifely or motherly chat; there's just his connection. While you are OK with their interactions on the sidelines of ballgames, you have no interest nor desire to spend this time with her and her family, and you feel that it is inappropriate for them to go camping.

That last part is the kicker. He could become upset. If he feels accused, mistrusted, or suspected of wrongdoing, you could really be the bad guy. So, the tone of the whole thing needs to be soft yet determined and very clear. You are asking him to cancel the trip and to put boundaries around his friendship with her, healthy boundaries that protect your marriage and your child.

If he does get upset, pay attention. If his reaction is overblown and out of proportion, ask him what is at stake for him. What is he losing by canceling his trip? By being more appropriate? By respecting your discomfort? If he has more in his mind than is healthy, he might show you by his behavior.

If that occurs, your reaction will determine whether he feels that you are his best friend who understands him and still expects him to uphold the priority your relationship enjoys, or a chain around his neck. Again, it's about being soft yet determined.

Another question is relevant: How does your child feel about this trip? About her and her family? If you are the "odd man out" your best move might be to go on the trip, risk having a really uncomfortable time, maybe be pleasantly surprised and have a good time, make a friend, or protect your marriage.

I'm siding with your husband. From what you write here I see nothing to suggest cheating. To me it seems like if he was, inviting you on this trip and your child on the last one would be the stupidest idea for an affair.

I would not stop this trip from happening.Talk to your husband about how you feel about this women, maybe he does not know how you feel about her.Make a point to go your kids game, the more she see's of you the more she will back off

I'm not seeing the problem here to be honest, I talk to the coach's wife a lot at my child's tee-ball games. Parents are going to be friendly. If I may ask, why don't you attend your kids games?

Have you told your husband your concerns? Ask why this woman's friendship is important to him?

I'm assuming her husband goes along on the camping trips. How does he seem to feel about their relationship?

If you're available to go to the games, then do that more often. You shouldn't have to babysit your husband or this woman, but maybe if you're around them more often you can get a better feel of what's going on.

If you are truly uncomfortable with her and the idea of a trip together, then you need to tell your husband, not in a confrontational manner either. Just start with... "I know you really enjoy her company and I was wondering why and this is how it makes me feel........"

My husband went on a camping trip last summer with our child and this woman and her family.
Did her husband go on the camping trip? I'm not getting anything wrong going on, other than you being jealous.

I think he likes them both well enough to socialize with them.

I asked this question as luigi1111 but I could not log in to see the replys. So here it is again. For the past two years my husband has been very friendly with a Mom on our kids ball team. He and our child went on a camping trip last summer with her and her family. He wants to go again this year but this time I am going to. I don't have anything in common with her and her family and we are years older than them. When ever I go to the ball field she is very indifferent to me and talks and sits next to my husband. My kid and hers have not gotten together this year do to them being on different teams but my husband continues the friendship with their Mom. I don't have any proof that something is going on, but it just does not feel right. I don't want to go on this trip, but my husband is so looking forward to it. How do I put a stop to it and not have it turn into a big thing and me becoming the bad guy?

Sounds like you need to go on this trip...
This trip can help you identify any possible relation between your hubby and the other woman.

Best case senerio: nothing going on and if you give it a chance you can make a new friend.

I'll ask again, does her husband go along too?

You have a problem with their friendship because she is a girl. Boys and girls can be friends without anything happening between them.
Also, your jealous because it almost like she is the other woman. They talk, hang out, plan trips, and the sound of her name gets on your nerves. You don't want to hear her name anymore.

Go on the trip but don't go on it with an attitude towards. Talk to her and get to know, regardless if you want to or not.

Also what did you mean by ". When I do go to the games, she is very indifferent towards me?" What does she do to make you feel uncomfortable and I must ask are you doing the same? It is easy to say the other person did this or that but being that you don't like her maybe she got the same vibe from you and did the same.

Different name, the answer's the same. Quit blaming your husband for asking you to join him on a camping trip, with a woman who's family will be there and trying to pretend there is some sort of affair. Your husband deserves better.

I'm siding with your husband. From what you write here I see nothing to suggest cheating. To me it seems like if he was, inviting you on this trip and your child on the last one would be the stupidest idea for an affair.


Completely wrong wrong wrong.

I had this problem with my husband - he befriended an "older" woman at work - ten years his senior. He would borrow her car, and always talk about her.

Well I hate to break it to you, but since I thought that she was older and that she was more of a mother figure to him, guess what? I let my guard down (in order to be the good guy), and today, she has my husband's child, my husband and I are divorced and I find myself regretting every moment.

I know this is bad news, but I really do feel it needs to be told. There is NO reason why a wife should have to feel brushed aside or why she should have to carry this inside of her. To the person who posted, you really do need to sit down with your husband and talk to him about what's bothering you.


Oh by the way - my ex husband would invite me to go out with her as well to the office christmas party of which I accepted. So an invitation has nothing to do with it

WOMEN, PLEASE TRUST YOUR GUT FEELINGS!!

You have a problem with their friendship because she is a girl. Boys and girls can be friends without anything happening between them.
Also, your jealous because it almost like she is the other woman. They talk, hang out, plan trips, and the sound of her name gets on your nerves. You don't want to hear her name anymore.
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Wrong wrong wrong - once again.

I really don't believe that "a woman and a boy can be just friends" - what a cock of baloney. There is absolutely NO reason why a married man should have an emotional relationship with a woman other than his wife. Are you kidding? That's what a wife and a husband is for. If he has any needs, then he should address them with his wife, not some other soccer mom.

And that the wife is jealous? Are you kidding, that is HER man, she has every right to feel the way she does.
Take it from me. I loved my husband and gave him all the liberty in the world with his friends - never hassled him and guess what? He winded up cheating. That's how most men are - they look at women and they undress her almost instantly, even if they don't say so. And I'm sure that woman is probably thinking "hmmmm, how would it be if me and him were together".

Anybody who denies that they think about their opposite sex friend as anything other but just a friend is a liar. We all have that - when we make friends with someone of the opposite sex, the thought to date him or her ALWAYS crosses our mind. So lets not kid ourselves.

Completely wrong wrong wrong.

I had this problem with my husband - he befriended an "older" woman at work - ten years his senior. He would borrow her car, and always talk about her.

Well I hate to break it to you, but since I thought that she was older and that she was more of a mother figure to him, guess what?? I let my guard down (in order to be the good guy), and today, she has my husband's child, my husband and I are divorced and I find myself regretting every moment.

I know this is bad news, but I really do feel it needs to be told. there is NO reason why a wife should have to feel brushed aside or why she should have to carry this inside of her. To the person who posted, you really do need to sit down with your husband and talk to him about what's bothering you.


Oh by the way - my ex husband would invite me to go out with her as well to teh office christmas party of which I accepted. So an invitation has nothing to do with it

WOMEN, PLEASE TRUST YOUR GUT FEELINGS!!!


No offence, but your situation isn't the same as her's, and her husband is her own, and not yours, and this women is not the women whom your husband "left you for".

By the way, how much do you love yourself? (Yes this does have to do with what the origianl OP asked, as it directly pertains to one's motives, beliefs, morals, goals, and the general out come of this situation.) Sorry I tend to ramble or go "off topic".

Your view on this is valuable, but it seems to be obscured for your distaste for what happened in your life. You seem to need some time to heal as it sounds as though it's still quit fresh and painful to you. Have you forgiven every one? If things do turn out like what you say, then the OP may need to deal with this same issue, and would be wise to be mindful of this possibility and if she could deal with it too.

May peace and kindness be with you.

Completely wrong wrong wrong.

I had this problem with my husband - he befriended an "older" woman at work - ten years his senior. He would borrow her car, and always talk about her.

Well I hate to break it to you, but since I thought that she was older and that she was more of a mother figure to him, guess what?? I let my guard down (in order to be the good guy), and today, she has my husband's child, my husband and I are divorced and I find myself regretting every moment.

I know this is bad news, but I really do feel it needs to be told. there is NO reason why a wife should have to feel brushed aside or why she should have to carry this inside of her. To the person who posted, you really do need to sit down with your husband and talk to him about what's bothering you.


Oh by the way - my ex husband would invite me to go out with her as well to teh office christmas party of which I accepted. So an invitation has nothing to do with it

WOMEN, PLEASE TRUST YOUR GUT FEELINGS!!!

The original post wasn't directed at what happened in your past. The original post was from a woman who clearly doesn't like another woman because she is nice to her husband and doesn't like her. From what she wrote, there is nothing to suggest anything going on. Not one thing. Furthermore, I pointed out, quite correctly, that it would be stupid to have an affair with a woman on a camping trip in which she brought her family, and he brought his child. On top of that, this year's camping trip will not only include her family (again) but this time she is coming along. Somehow, you call being invited as being brushed aside. Now, I'm pretty sure if you were going to cheat on your wife with a woman who is going to cheat on her husband, then you would not bring them along. I'll say it again, there is nothing to suggest he has done anything wrong, and in fact the evidence from her posts shows that he has tried to include her, not the opposite.

wrong wrong wrong - once again.

I really don't believe that "a woman and a boy can be just friends" - what a cock of baloney. There is absolutely NO reason why a married man should have an emotional relationship with a woman other than his wife. Are you kidding?? That's what a wife and a husband is for. If he has any needs, then he should address them with his wife, not some other soccer mom.

And that the wife is jealous?? Are you kidding, that is HER man, she has every right to feel the way she does.
Take it from me. I loved my husband and gave him all the liberty in the world with his friends - never hassled him and guess what?? He winded up cheating. That's how most men are - they look at women and they undress her almost instantly, even if they don't say so. And I'm sure that woman is probably thinking "hmmmm, how would it be if me and him were together".

Anybody who denies that they think about their opposite sex friend as anything other but just a friend is a liar. We all have that - when we make friends with someone of the opposite sex, the thought to date him or her ALWAYS crosses our mind. So lets not kid ourselves.


This is quite something right here. I'm not sure if I should tear it apart or feel sorry for her.

As a man I will say if this is the attitude you husband faced, it might explain some things.

wrong wrong wrong - once again.

I really don't believe that "a woman and a boy can be just friends" - what a cock of baloney. There is absolutely NO reason why a married man should have an emotional relationship with a woman other than his wife. Are you kidding?? That's what a wife and a husband is for. If he has any needs, then he should address them with his wife, not some other soccer mom.

And that the wife is jealous?? Are you kidding, that is HER man, she has every right to feel the way she does.
Take it from me. I loved my husband and gave him all the liberty in the world with his friends - never hassled him and guess what?? He winded up cheating. That's how most men are - they look at women and they undress her almost instantly, even if they don't say so.


Anybody who denies that they think about their opposite sex friend as anything other but just a friend is a liar. We all have that - when we make friends with someone of the opposite sex, the thought to date him or her ALWAYS crosses our mind. So lets not kid ourselves.


Wow, you really are against this idea eh? I've got a lot of friends who are married and have females for best friends. To be honest, it seems to be a blending of the sexes these days. Men and women are equal and so now girls are behaving more like the wild impulsive men that they detest. Well that's what I've noticed, nothing really wrong with it, but it does tend to seem like every one is doing every one, or people switch partners ever week. Kind of like a soap actually. Haha. But what ever.

The point is now girls and guys are mixing as friends and lot of girls are playing sports that men dominated and girls are taking more interest in sports on TV at the Bars/pubs. They can really get into it too. So now a lot of girls are Best friends with guys, and visversa.

Jelousy is bad thing, it blinds us to what is really important. I can understand why she feels like that but its' wiser for her to talk to her husband and sort the situation out. Telling him he can't have female friends is not fair. What about the girls that are Bi? Or guys that are Bi, she they not have any frineds? See it's his life in the end, and if he wants to do something, she either needs to respect that, and trust him, or let him go. Or he will just leave any way.

I know guys and girls who've been the most faithful people ever, then one day many years, some times up to 15-16, into it they start to have a bit of a distancing and they cheat. It happens, and you can't stop them from it.

You don't know what that women is thinking, unless you are Psychic? That would be kind of cool. Any way, you seem very distressed over this matter, and like you need to talk to some one, as your pain is very powerful and I can feel it from here. I'm very sorry for your raw deal but life changes, and you can too. Make yourself into a new and happy person. It's up to you to decide that.

"Anybody who denies that they think about their opposite sex friend as anything other but just a friend is a liar."- dincher

That may very well be, but I've had many Female friends and I've never cheeted on my ex with any of them. After she left me I did hook up with a few, but that's hardly a crime. I may have fantacised about it, but I didn't ever consider it seriously. I knew the line, and a lot of the times I didn't think of her friends, or my female friends like that. I had a different view on them. Please don't make such assumptions that we are all the same it's not very nice, and more importantly most unwise.

Peace and kindness be with you.

Dincher, I hate to burst your bubble but all because your husband cheated and is now married to his friend doesn't mean every experience would end up like yours.

I have males friends just like my fiancé have female friends and everything is just fine. I trust him and he trustes me. No lines have been crossed between me and my male friends and I can honestly say the same thing regarding my fiancé females friends.

So when you say guys and females can't be friends and just friends your wrong. Sorry your husband left you for his doesn't mean that everyone is the same.

I stand by my answer regardless if you disagree.

wrong wrong wrong - once again.

I really don't believe that "a woman and a boy can be just friends" - what a cock of baloney. There is absolutely NO reason why a married man should have an emotional relationship with a woman other than his wife. Are you kidding?? That's what a wife and a husband is for. If he has any needs, then he should address them with his wife, not some other soccer mom.

And that the wife is jealous?? Are you kidding, that is HER man, she has every right to feel the way she does.
Take it from me. I loved my husband and gave him all the liberty in the world with his friends - never hassled him and guess what?? He winded up cheating. That's how most men are - they look at women and they undress her almost instantly, even if they don't say so. And I'm sure that woman is probably thinking "hmmmm, how would it be if me and him were together".

Anybody who denies that they think about their opposite sex friend as anything other but just a friend is a liar. We all have that - when we make friends with someone of the opposite sex, the thought to date him or her ALWAYS crosses our mind. So lets not kid ourselves.


Sorry that you got such a raw deal, but I think that your experience is colouring your viewpoint. Not all men are cheaters. Not all men are sexually attracted to their female friends.

We are all different in what we want and expect in relationships - our partners cannot and in fact in a healthy relationship, should not, be expected to meet our every emotional need. Sometimes we might seek friendship and companionship outside the relationship.

I have no idea what's happening with the soccer mum, it will be up to her to sort out what's happening, but I think that you need to be cautious about not projecting your own anger, resentment and fear on to her situation.

The original post wasn't directed at what happened in your past.

I understand that the original post wasn't directed at something that happened in my past. But my experience I should hope, would serve to warn others. What's the point of having experience, if your'e NOT going learn from them??

Obviosly, if this woman finds herself somewhat neglected then that needs to be addressed. Having a member of the opposite sex as your best friend or whatever, while you're married is wrong wrong wrong.
I don't care what any of you say, it's the truth. You say,
... I'm pretty sure if you were going to cheat on your wife with a woman who is going to cheat on her husband, then you would not bring them along. Well, how about because maybe theyr'e not having the affair yet? How about because maybe the one or the other feels uncomfortable even though the desires are there, and they haven't communicted their desires verbally YET?

I really don't care what your opinion on this topic is - I know what I lived.

The bottom line is that if the wife feels somethng in her gut, it's best for her not to ignore it. She has every right to question, as she's the wife and should be #1 in her husband's life, not # 2 aside from the soccer mom. I'm sorry, but the fact that the woman feels that something is wrong (red flags) should be sufficient cause for her to take some kind of action.

Sorry that you got such a raw deal, but I think that your experience is colouring your viewpoint. Not all men are cheaters. Not all men are sexually attracted to their female friends.

We are all different in what we want and expect in relationships - our partners cannot and in fact in a healthy relationship, should not, be expected to meet our every emotional need. Sometimes we might seek friendship and companionship outside the relationship.

I have no idea what's happening with the soccer mum, it will be up to her to sort out what's happening, but I think that you need to be cautious about not projecting your own anger, resentment and fear on to her situation.

I never said that ALL men are the same, but used the word "most". Most meaning the majority. The heart is treacherous, even the bible says so. Sometimes people whom you're not attracted to will become attractive over time with their personality. It's only human nature.

Dincher, I hate to burst your bubble but all because your husband cheated and is now married to his friend doesn't mean every experience would end up like yours.

I have males friends just like my fiance have female friends and everything is just fine. I trust him and he trustes me. No lines have been crossed between me and my male friends and I can honestly say the same thing regarding my fiance females friends.

So when you say guys and females can't be friends and just friends your wrong. Sorry your husband left you for his doesn't mean that everyone is the same.

I stand by my answer regardless if you disagree.

Yes, but the amount of time you spend wth someone of the opposite sex can make all the difference in the world. Like I said before, there is a reason why this woman feels this way, and believe me it's not her own insecurity. She wouldn't be having this issue if her husband would give her the attention that she needs.

I never said that ALL men are the same, but used the word "most". Most meaning the majority. The heart is treacherous, even the bible says so. Sometimes people whom you're not attracted to will become attractive over time with their personality. It's only human nature.

But not SEXUALLY attracted dincher, just because you like someone's personality, doesn't mean you want to have sex with them. (and I don't see what the Bible has to do with it)

It's your perception that something is wrong, wrong, wrong (in this case male/female friendships in marriage), that's OK. But it doesn't make it the truth.

It sounds like it's time to do a little detective work... be it showing up at a game randomly or trying to be more intemidating around her. Let her indirectly know that he is YOUR man. Don't feer inferior to this girl... that will only give her strength. When you go on this camping trip, crack some hilarous jokes, make yourself out to be the wonderful, funny, life of the party I know you are! Put her in her place, but don't be obvious about it.

I agree that the husband is doing nothing wrong. Give the guy a break. He's at the ball game, alone, his kids are playing ball with another parent's kids, and the parents talk.

I presume that the husband of the woman friend also goes camping with his wife and children, and will be there when you go also.

You need to get past yourself, and show an interest in attending ball games. Invite the woman and her husband over for a barbecue. They did after all entertain your husband and children camping last year right? Did you take the time to thank her?

Have you phoned her and asked what you can contribute to the next camping trip?

If you are not going to go and you're already sure you aren't going to have a good time, then make some excuse and not rain on a perfectly good family camping trip.

I would say that if you end up looking like the bad guy, its because you haven't even tried to make them comfortable in getting to know you. Sounds like you'll be missing out on a good time.

I understand that the original post wasn't directed at something that happened in my past. But my experience I should hope, would serve to warn others. What's the point of having experience, if your'e NOT going learn from them???

Obviosly, if this woman finds herself somewhat neglected then that needs to be addressed. Having a member of the opposite sex as your best friend or whatever, while you're married is wrong wrong wrong.
I don't care what any of you say, it's the truth. You say, Well, how about because maybe theyr'e not having the affair yet?? How about because maybe the one or the other feels uncomfortable even though the desires are there, and they haven't communicted their desires verbally YET??

I really don't care what your opinion on this topic is - I know what I lived.

The bottom line is that if the wife feels somethng in her gut, it's best for her not to ignore it. She has every right to question, as she's the wife and should be #1 in her husband's life, not # 2 aside from the soccer mom. I'm sorry, but the fact that the woman feels that something is wrong (red flags) should be sufficient cause for her to take some kind of action.

"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."- Socrates

Expereince is not always true to all things. With each new situation, we gain insight into one of many possibilites, but that is not to say that it will always be the same. Life is pliable, and thus the possibilities are pliable. I would advise being pliable too, or life may not be so kind to you. Or rather, as some have theorized, you may not be so kind to yourself.

There are ways of handling such things, but anger is illadvised. Best to talk things out, and be responsible for yourself.

Peace and kindness be with you.

P.S. Sweet, Liz I'll have to send you a coppy of my book when I finnish it. Haha, I think I have a long road ahead of me, all I've got so far is, Benism: Then I end it... :o I'll get there I'm sure. Haha

Dincher I would love to know where your getting your information from because again your saying male and females can't be friends based on an experience you had.

Then you go on to say ". Most meaning the majority of men are the same as your ex", well your wrong, wrong, wrong. I would love to see some stats on your theory.

I once had a former female friend that tried to pulled to take a guy I was seeing at the time. Does that means I should let this one bad experience dictate my future friendships with females? No! If I did I wouldn't have the females friends I have now.

I understand that the original post wasn't directed at something that happened in my past. But my experience I should hope, would serve to warn others. What's the point of having experience, if your'e NOT going learn from them???

But your experience is not this experience. It's not even close.


Obviosly, if this woman finds herself somewhat neglected then that needs to be addressed.

She is not neglected. Honestly, did you read the same post we all read? Her own husband has tried to include her. That is not neglect.

She can address her insecurities with her husband, but those are hers. It's not his job to deal with her insecurities when he's done nothing to cause them.


Having a member of the opposite sex as your best friend or whatever, while you're married is wrong wrong wrong.

Again, I didn't read where they were best friends. But let's assume they are. So what. They are going on a camping trip with each other's families. Honestly, how does this escape you? They aren't flying to Vegas for the week in a luxury room with a hot tub.




I don't care what any of you say, it's the truth.

Do you know the word truth means? I realize the one man you loved out of the 3 billion available screwed you, but that does not define the truth.




You say, Well, how about because maybe theyr'e not having the affair yet?? How about because maybe the one or the other feels uncomfortable even though the desires are there, and they haven't communicted their desires verbally YET??

Is this for real? Aren't you admitting what most people here are saying? There is nothing going on, and now you are saying the same thing. But... because one guy did it, now all men are cheaters so this guy is going to do it on a camping trip in with both families.


I really don't care what your opinion on this topic is - I know what I lived.

What you lived has nothing to do with this OP's question.


The bottom line is that if the wife feels somethng in her gut, it's best for her not to ignore it. She has every right to question, as she's the wife and should be #1 in her husband's life, not # 2 aside from the soccer mom.

Never was it expressed that she is number 2. This is pure made up BS.



I'm sorry, but the fact that the woman feels that something is wrong (red flags) should be sufficient cause for her to take some kind of action.

There are no red flags. In fact there is nothing wrong. If she wants to question her husband about she certainly can, but she's got no ground to stand on.

I never said that ALL men are the same, but used the word "most". Most meaning the majority. The heart is treacherous, even the bible says so. Sometimes people whom you're not attracted to will become attractive over time with their personality. It's only human nature.

Most men are the same huh? Do you know that men take longer to emotionally recover after a break up? Do you know that more men commit suicide over a break up then women. Why is that exactly? Why are these evil, sex only wanting, undressing every woman they see, lusting, can't be friends with women the ones who suffer the most. Now we aren't talking about you... we are talking about most.

Yes, but the amount of time you spend wth someone of the opposite sex can make all the difference in the world. Like I said before, there is a reason why this woman feels this way, and believe me it's not her own insecurity. She wouldn't be having this issue if her husband would give her the attention that she needs.

READ THE OP! Her husband HAS tried to include her. It is HER, who is trying to back out.

Had to spread the rep Chuff but both of your posts were dead on. All I can say is "Whoa".

Sounds like we need a "sexy party."- Stewie Griffith.

Sorry had to break the tention in hear.

Maybe we should just wait for the OP to take some of this info in, eh? Im sure she'll be thrilled that every one is responding to her.

Ok, I said it. Peace be with us all.

What I am still trying to grasp is the fact that she can't make time to go to her own kids baseball games? Kids remember that stuff and it will come back to you. I remember both of my parents at all of my baseball games and I am still close to my parents today.

She wouldn't have this chance to get close to your husband if you decided to come to the games and include yourself in things. Not that I think it matters, the husband and other woman is not doing anything wrong. What is the big deal about going on vacations with ANOTHER FAMILY!

Sounds like we need a "sexy party."- Stewie Griffith.

Ok, I said it. Peace be with us all.

You watch too much Family Guy but I love it. Lol