Beautifulskin, congrats on being the maid of honor. I found out yesterday that one of my best friend wants me to plan her wedding and to be in the wedding (idk how to do both at once) for spring 2010, so I hope I will look and maintain how I want to look. If you mainly want to remove marks from your face, you can use retin-a (tretinoin) that will help and speed up results along w/ the lightening creme. But, it is a process as the dead skin will have to peel first, then the skin underneath is lighter and more even, so it may take time.

About the makari, it is a safe product with many natural ingredients and I had great results as it lighten my acne scars, and evened and lightened my skin alot. But, if you have acne-prone oily skin you have to use a really good cleanser that fights acne, as it is a quite oily creme made with hydrogenated oils and 2 different types of silicone which can clog the pores and cause more acne. So, a good acne fighting cleanser and even a face scrub a couple of times a week helped my face alot.

Golden girl isn't it stressful trying to plan and be in the wedding?? Wow, that's a lot of work :). I think I am going to try the retin-A do you know where I can get some?

Hey,
I used makari and broke me out but I have acne med from the doctor and I used that at night and the caviar cream in the day and no prob at all
My acne med has benzyl peroxide init
Its awesome at combatting acne, you can buy benzyl peroxide products without a perscription. And you can put it on in the day which you can't really with toothpaste lol

Hope that helps

Golden girl isn't it stressful trying to plan and be in the wedding??? Wow, that's a lot of work :). I think I am going to try the retin-A do you know where I can get some?

Yeah it can be stressful, though one of my friends is assisting me which is a plus. I'm not sure how I can be in the wedding also, though it is a small wedding of about 50 people so far. Where to get Retin-A without prescription? Well, for the generic brand tretinoin I can pm you a reliable source.

Yeah it can be stressful, though one of my friends is assisting me which is a plus. I'm not sure how I can be in the wedding also, though it is a small wedding of about 50 people so far. Where to get Retin-A without prescription? Well, for the generic brand tretinoin I can pm you a reliable source.

Thanks again for the info goldengirl! By the way, I received my order from Tonique today I am so excited! I can't wait to see what happens!

beautifulskin = SPAMMER

Indian Princess why do you say Beautifulskin is a spammer? I seriously doubt that she is.

Same, she really isn't

Well said, Fairr.

Beautifulskin how is your regimen coming along?

Indian Princess why do you say Beautifulskin is a spammer?
I seriously doubt that she is.

I guess she thinks this because B.S. (beautifulskin) came in here sounding way too familiar:

Page 16 Post#159 (beautifulskin)
Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Page 3 Post#30 (abbycute)
I've used F&F before and yes they were too expensive. I couldn't keep up with the prices and they weren't as effective as Tonique. I don't know if they're affiliated but, a lot of the all natural skin whitening companies tend to be fairly alike. I found I got much faster results with Tonique though and it's less expensive.

Is abbycute beautifulskin's friend she speaks of:confused:
Familiar theme: too expensive, Fair and Flawless is bad, Tonique is good.
Doesn't make any sense because Tonique has or at least list the same ingredients as Fair and Flawless along with the copy cat site, product name and not much difference in price.

Page15 Post#144 (beautifulskin)
Hello all nice to be here!!
Sorry to tell you guys but, I am also a fan of Tonique!! LOL

Page 4 Post#39 (whiteandlight)
Oh and I got my first order of Tonique last month and I like it. I was scared to say it because I was reading through previous posts. LOL


Familiar theme:notice the sheepish shy almost apologetic way she annouces she likes Tonique. Big letter L big letter O and another big letter L at the end of each sentence.

Beautifulskin posted she was a fan of Tonquie on Jun 12, 2009 as if she used the product before yet on:

Jun 29, 2009
Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Why is she asking me for recommendations, does she not use Tonique already:confused:

Aug 26, 2009
I am trying everything to lighten my melasma too let me know if you use anything that you find works well. My friend recommended something to me that she says she has been using for a couple of months. I forgot the name of it though. I am going to ask her again tonight. She said it works really well I will ask again and then post it here.

After almost two months of stating you are a fan of a product, you can't remember then name of it:confused:

Aug 28, 2009
My friend says that Tonique is very good. I have bad melasma so I just ordered the cream and the gel so that it can lighten my skin in half the time (or at least that's what I'm hoping).

Posted she was a fan but is just now ordering the product:confused:

whiteandlight:
It depends on what kind of product you are looking for. If you don't mind synthetic ingredients try the G&G cream. If you want to go natural try the Tonique 10x Gel.

abbycute:
Do not use anything synthetic on your skin try something natural synthetic can be harmful. I use Tonique's products but there are many other all natural skin whitening lines out there.

Tonique has a live chat helper you can talk to in real time and I asked a couple of questions and this customer service rep used the same word, synthetic. Hmmm

Bottom line is Beautifulskin sounds a lot like abbycute and whiteandlight. After I asked that moderator to check it was discovered that abbycute and whiteandlight were in fact the same person, they have never been seen chatting here since. There is just something too familiar about the way she post of Tonique, the pattern is the same. She sounds like she's been here before. Everyone has a there own way of chatting online and the words they use etc.. and if you've been around on the boards long enough you can sometimes tell who that person is even if it is under a different user name. I don't know for sure if Beautifulskin is the other two but she sure does come close.

I don't know what to say.. wow. Well, earlier today I noticed the Tonique do have too many similarities to the Fair and Flawless. I noticed Fair and Flawless has a Private Label option where other companies can choose to use F&F products, the ingredients and descriptions are the same so the companies can then also call it theirs.. maybe this explains so many of the silimarities Wholesale Skin Care | Products (http://www.fairandflawlessskin.com/wholesale.html)

I don't know what to say..wow. Well, earlier today I noticed the Tonique do have too many similarities to the Fair and Flawless. I noticed Fair and Flawless has a Private Label option where other companies can choose to use F&F products, the ingredients and descriptions are the same so the companies can then also call it theirs..maybe this explains so many of the silimarities Wholesale Skin Care | Products (http://www.fairandflawlessskin.com/wholesale.html)

Yeah your right, they do offer private label. I mentioned this earlier in this thread but I don't think they are a part of the private label line. If they were why put down the very company your getting your supplies from?

Yeah, that's true. They shouldn't try and put down the other brand if that is their parent company. Well, if they have no affiliations then what Tonique is doing isn't right.

I have never tried either products, so I do not know if either of them work first hand or not?

Hello all still trying to get my face together before the wedding. :) SoSexy I got my order of Retin A today (thanks for the referral) and I am going to mix with Tonique and hydroquinone. I am on the fast track to getting my skin clear again after the baby. I hope this works!

I guess she thinks this because B.S. (beautifulskin) came in here sounding way too familiar:

Page 16 Post#159 (beautifulskin)
Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Page 3 Post#30 (abbycute)
I've used F&F before and yes they were too expensive. I couldn't keep up with the prices and they weren't as effective as Tonique. I don't know if they're affiliated but, a lot of the all natural skin whitening companies tend to be fairly alike. I found I got much faster results with Tonique though and it's less expensive.

Is abbycute beautifulskin's friend she speaks of:confused:
Familiar theme: too expensive, Fair and Flawless is bad, Tonique is good.
Doesn't make any sense because Tonique has or at least list the same ingredients as Fair and Flawless along with the copy cat site, product name and not much difference in price.

Page15 Post#144 (beautifulskin)
Hello all nice to be here!!
Sorry to tell you guys but, I am also a fan of Tonique!! LOL

Page 4 Post#39 (whiteandlight)
Oh and I got my first order of Tonique last month and I like it. I was scared to say it because I was reading through previous posts. LOL


Familiar theme:notice the sheepish shy almost apologetic way she annouces she likes Tonique. big letter L big letter O and another big letter L at the end of each sentence.

Beautifulskin posted she was a fan of Tonquie on Jun 12, 2009 as if she used the product before yet on:

Jun 29, 2009
Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Why is she asking me for recommendations, does she not use Tonique already:confused:

Aug 26, 2009
I am trying everything to lighten my melasma too let me know if you use anything that you find works well. My friend recommended something to me that she says she has been using for a couple of months. I forgot the name of it though. I am going to ask her again tonight. She said it works really well I will ask again and then post it here.

After almost two months of stating you are a fan of a product, you can't remember then name of it:confused:

Aug 28, 2009
My friend says that Tonique is very good. I have bad melasma so I just ordered the cream and the gel so that it can lighten my skin in half the time (or at least that's what I'm hoping).

Posted she was a fan but is just now ordering the product:confused:

whiteandlight:
It depends on what kind of product you are looking for. If you don't mind synthetic ingredients try the G&G cream. If you want to go natural try the Tonique 10x Gel.

abbycute:
Do not use anything synthetic on your skin try something natural synthetic can be harmful. I use Tonique's products but there are many other all natural skin whitening lines out there.

Tonique has a live chat helper you can talk to in real time and I asked a couple of questions and this customer service rep used the same word, synthetic. hmmm

Bottom line is Beautifulskin sounds a lot like abbycute and whiteandlight. After I asked that moderator to check it was discovered that abbycute and whiteandlight were in fact the same person, they have never been seen chatting here since. There is just something too familiar about the way she post of Tonique, the pattern is the same. She sounds like she's been here before. Everyone has a there own way of chatting online and the words they use etc..and if you've been around on the boards long enough you can sometimes tell who that person is even if it is under a different user name. I don't know for sure if Beautifulskin is the other two but she sure does come close.

Hello Nikki how are you? I got your PM about Fair and Flawless and the discount that you can offer but, I am going to stick with these products for now and then contact you for the discount if that's all right, in the mean time please don't think badly of me for not responding to your PM. I will be in touch if these products don't work for me, okay? Friends? Don't take this personally but I did a search on Fair and Flawless and it seems as if your name is involved in almost every post and forum found on the product http://askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-8507.html since 2005 and here is Nikkicute on a different forum 08/2009 http://www.skincaretalk.com/skin-lightening/4695-fair-white-fair-flawless-4.html and http://www.skincaretalk.com/skin-lightening/4695-fair-white-fair-flawless-6.html. In this post http://www.skincaretalk.com/skin-lightening/4695-fair-white-fair-flawless-2.html she supposedly bought two people that she liked the F&F products how convenient is that?? Hhmmmmm? The only reason I have not ordered from you yet Nikki is that it is still a bit too expensive for such a small amount of product but, again if these things don't work for me I definitely will still contact you. There have been some reviews of the product that I am not too fond of also from about 2005 http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5712 and http://excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=65288&threadid=1544564 and that's why I am sort of skeptical too but, again I promised and I will give it a try. :) Hhmmm?? I also found some posts from Maharani on Fair and Flawless on the skinbright forum (before the Fair and Flawless scandal) from 2005??

Hello Nikki how are you? I got your PM about Fair and Flawless and the discount that you can offer but, I am going to stick with these products for now and then contact you for the discount if that's alright, in the mean time please don't think badly of me for not responding to your PM. I will be in touch if these products don't work for me, okay? Friends?

HA HA HA!! Very funny!
You know darn well I never PM'd you about a discount.
Why in the world did you post that:confused:
Your showing your true colors now, your really giving yourself away.

Friends? Nahh...

HA HA HA!!! Very funny!!
You know darn well I never PM'd you about a discount.
Why in the world did you post that:confused:
Your showing your true colors now, your really giving yourself away.

Friends? Nahh....

At first to be honest I didn't think anything of it and was going to try it especially with the discount but now you are making me think twice. Honestly speaking I just didn't want to spend so much on 1oz. Of facial cream but, the discount made it worthwhile. I am not so sure now... :confused: Nikki I have no argument with you I just really need to get myself together for my best friends wedding it is important to her that I be there and right now I just don't feel comfortable with my skin and am trying the best way I know how to clear it up.

At first to be honest I didn't think anything of it and was going to try it especially with the discount but now you are making me think twice. Honestly speaking I just didn't want to spend so much on 1oz. of facial cream but, the discount made it worthwhile. I am not so sure now........:confused: Nikki I have no argument with you I just really need to get myself together for my best friends wedding it is important to her that I be there and right now I just don't feel comfortable with my skin and am trying the best way I know how to clear it up.

Nice try sweety. Nice try.
I'm loving this, just keep on posting and editing adding more and more untruths, your just giving yourself away with each sentence.

Post as many links as you want to me talking about Fair and Flawless.
You can always find Nikkicute. You know why? Cause I'm ALWAYS Nikkicute!
Not abbycute, Not whiteandlight Not shanifive. I'm NIKKI!

For you to post and out and out lie like you just did.
I know who are now!!
Your trying way too hard to prove what?

This is getting sad now.
It's just sad...

Did you just say to be HONEST? LOL! Your funny!! :D

beautifulskin:
Nikki I have no argument with you I just really need to get myself together for my best friends wedding it is important to her that I be there and right now I just don't feel comfortable with my skin and am trying the best way I know how to clear it up.

You should have said that in the first place!
That should have been your first post.
You have no argument with me? But you have a lie for me?
It's too late to "be honest" you already lied!

Nice try sweety. Nice try.
I'm loving this, just keep on posting and editing adding more and more untruths, your just giving yourself away with each sentence.

Post as many links as you want to me talking about Fair and Flawless.
You can always find Nikkicute. You know why? Cause I'm ALWAYS Nikkicute!!
Not abbycute, Not whiteandlight Not shanifive. I"m NIKKI !!

For you to post and out and out lie like you just did.
I know who are now!!!
Your trying way too hard to prove what?

This is getting sad now.
It's just sad...

Did you just say to be HONEST? LOL!! Your funny!!!:D

beautifulskin:
Nikki I have no argument with you I just really need to get myself together for my best friends wedding it is important to her that I be there and right now I just don't feel comfortable with my skin and am trying the best way I know how to clear it up.

You should have said that in the first place!!
That should have been your first post.
You have no argument with me? But you have a lie for me?
It's too late to "be honest" you already lied!!

No need to lie Nikki and if you are offering to purchase F&F's expensive cream for two people that you are friendly with and then go to every skin forum and promote the product how honest are you? In another post you said that a moderator asked you to get free samples of the product for her and you refused and that is why she banned you from the skin bright forum, may I ask who are you to fair and flawless to have free samples to give away just laying around? At first when you PM'd me I knew I got a bad vibe from you and now I see why. Everything else someone recommends to me I try because I am in such a desperate situation but, for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to try your product or the product that you are affiliated with. I will give you one piece of advice though that I see has been given to you on many other forums if you change your attitude you may get more sales! You've now just officially lost a customer.

ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT THE LINKS THAT I FOUND FOR YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE!

It clearly says here on November 17, 2005 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/fair-flawless-8507-2.html that you have been banned from dozens of forums for promoting fair and flawless and I think that's sad! I haven't been banned from anywhere I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem, I don't sit around on the computer all day posting on every forum on the internet, trying to get a sale.

NOW THAT'S SAD

Here's a link with reviews about the products Fair & Flawless ruined my skin!! (http://excoboard.com/exco/archive.php?ac=t&forumid=65288&date=11-07-2006&t=602208-1), maybe you should be mad at the skin bright forum, not me.

No need to lie Nikki and if you are offering to purchase F&F's expensive cream for two people that you are friendly with and then go to every skin forum and promote the product how honest are you? In another post you said that a moderator asked you to get free samples of the product for her and you refused and that is why she banned you from the skin bright forum, may I ask who are you to fair and flawless to have free samples to give away just laying around? At first when you PM'd me I knew I got a bad vibe from you and now I see why. Everything else someone recommends to me I try because I am in such a desperate situation but, for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to try your product or the product that you are affiliated with. I will give you one piece of advice though that I see has been given to you on many other forums if you change your attitude you may get more sales! You've now just officially lost a customer.

ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT THE LINKS THAT I FOUND FOR YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE!

It clearly says here on November 17, 2005 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/fair-flawless-8507-2.html that you have been banned from dozens of forums for promoting fair and flawless and I think that's sad! I haven't been banned from anywhere I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem, I don't sit around on the computer all day posting on every forum on the internet, trying to get a sale.

NOW THAT'S SAD

I don't come to these boards to argue with anyone.
I was just answering a question as to why Indian Princess thinks you're a scammer. Indian Princess called you out, not me. I was thinking the same thing she was. Not in the lines of you being a scammer but of you sounding familiar. But I did not post anything to you so why would I PM you?

You could have came on the board and said, "nikki I don't know what your talking about, a friend of mine told me about this cream and I'm just trying to look good for a wedding, I don't know who those other people are, I'm just want to lighten up and look nice, I don't know why Indian Princess would say that about me."

You could have least played innocent, you could have least played like you had no clue what was going on, like why am I being accused of this?

Instead you came on here, LIE and posted I PM'd with a Fair and Flawless discount:eek: Are you kidding me? You messed up! You gave yourself away. Because you know full well I NEVER offered you anything! You speak of someone who just got caught and you know this to be true.
You don't speak of someone who's friend just mentioned a cream you should use to lighten up your complexion. You've got more at stake than that.
Your fighting way too hard, like you've got something to lose.
Perhaps a want to be Fair and Flawless business? Hmmm I don't know...

Nice try though...
Silly girl tricks are for kids!!

Let's face it, I posted something that hit a nerve with you, so much so you had go to all the waaaaay back to 2005? Really? Anyone who has been on boards long enough knows all about it. Honey your not revealing anything new. But since you want to turn the hands of time. Let me see... 2005

Yes, I did purchase two people the facial cream.
What can I say? I'm a nice person.:p

Yes, yes, a Mod did ask me to get free samples for her because when she asked Fair and Flawless they told her no. So she asked me, I told her no, so she banned me. You think that was right?

Who am I to get free samples from Fair and Flawless? I'm the one who talked about Fair and Flawless because I was so excited I thought it was the IT cream (and I still do) that we've all been waiting for. I called the company and asked lot's of questions, for some odd reason maybe it was stupidity others did not call. So I was the one with the most information on the cream.

How does Nikki know this?
How does Nikki know that?
Nikki must work for them how else would she know so much?
Like they couldn't call and ask questions themselves?

Oh they called all right!!
They actually called Fair and Flawless and complained about me!! :mad:
Who is this Nikki? Does she work for you? My husbands a lawyer I could sue you! On and on and on about Nikki.

This all went down before they even had a website. So when their first website came up instead of calling I e-mailed them about their products.
Somebody over there saw my e-mail name and said this must be the Nikki everyone is calling about. They e-mailed me saying please call us, we need to talk.

My heart is racing, I'm thinking did I do something wrong?
Why would they want me to call them? What did I do?

That's when she (Linda) says we have had many phone calls about you.
(at this point I"m thinking aww dang I'm in trouble!!!) She ask have you been talking about our products, I said umm yeah, why what's wrong?

She said THANKS!!!:D
On behalf of everyone here at Fair and Flawless we just wanted to say thank you for saying such nice things about us!! I would like to send you some free samples as a way of appreciation. You think I'm going to turn that down? She asked me what would you like? I said a facial cream would be nice.

I posted the picture right here at askmehelpdesk of what she sent me. It was not a sample, all those products were full sizes, cleanser, toner, another facial cleanser with little scrubbing beads in it, facial moisturizer that smelled like it had benzoyl peroxide in it, maybe that was for acne and the facial cream. 5 free products all for me!!

And it was do to all the haters out there who thought I worked for the company, who called and complained about me only for it to turn around on them and I ended up with free products. And that's the story of how Nikki got her first jar of Fair and Flawless.

The end....

Your right, anyone who does reads the posts, who really reads post can see the truth, not skip over only to find the negatives.

You've never been banned?
How could you?
Once your found out you leave.

You need several ID's to lie.
I only need one ID/screen name for the truth.
I'll change my attitude has soon as you stop you changing screen names.
Do we have a deal?

Oh please stop the "I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem" routine.:rolleyes: Sweety you can't retract those claws now. You put them out there for all to see. Too late to play naïve, aww chucks I was just looking for a cream. Game over, the gig is up!!

I don't need any link to reviews to the bright skin forum.
I have no problem with any members of that forum.
You brought them into this, not me. You leave them alone!!

This is between me, you, abbycute, whiteandlight and shantifive. LOL!!
In fact you had no business bringing me into it like you did. You didn't play your cards right girl.

You know what's really sad? You're the one sitting at your computer trying to make a sale of your want to be products in the forums and your doing it in such a way that it's almost embarrassing. I am truly embarrassed for you.

I don't come to these boards to argue with anyone.
I was just answering a question as to why Indian Princess thinks your a scammer. Indian Princess called you out, not me. I was thinking the same thing she was. Not in the lines of you being a scammer but of you sounding familiar. But I did not post anything to you so why would I PM you?

You could have came on the board and said, "nikki I don't know what your talking about, a friend of mine told me about this cream and I'm just trying to look good for a wedding, I don't know who those other people are, I'm just want to lighten up and look nice, I don't know why Indian Princess would say that about me."

You could have least played innocent, you could have least played like you had no clue what was going on, like why am I being accused of this?

Instead you came on here, LIE and posted I PM'd with a Fair and Flawless discount:eek: Are you kidding me? You messed up!! You gave yourself away. Because you know full well I NEVER offered you anything!! You speak of someone who just got caught and you know this to be true.
You don't speak of someone who's friend just mentioned a cream you should use to lighten up your complexion. You've got more at stake than that.
Your fighting way too hard, like you've got something to lose.
Perhaps a wanna be Fair and Flawless business? hmmm I don't know....

Nice try though....
Silly girl tricks are for kids!!!

Let's face it, I posted something that hit a nerve with you, so much so you had go to all the waaaaay back to 2005? Really? Anyone who has been on boards long enough knows all about it. Honey your not revealing anything new. But since you want to turn the hands of time. Let me see.....2005

Yes, I did purchase two people the facial cream.
What can I say? I'm a nice person.:p

Yes, yes, a Mod did ask me to get free samples for her because when she asked Fair and Flawless they told her no. So she asked me, I told her no, so she banned me. You think that was right?

Who am I to get free samples from Fair and Flawless? I'm the one who talked about Fair and Flawless because I was so excited I thought it was the IT cream (and I still do) that we've all been waiting for. I called the company and asked lot's of questions, for some odd reason maybe it was stupidity others did not call. So I was the one with the most information on the cream.

How does Nikki know this?
How does Nikki know that?
Nikki must work for them how else would she know so much?
Like they couldn't call and ask questions themselves?

Oh they called alright!!!
They actually called Fair and Flawless and complained about me!!!!:mad:
Who is this Nikki? Does she work for you? My husbands a lawyer I could sue you!! On and on and on about Nikki.

This all went down before they even had a website. So when their first website came up instead of calling I e-mailed them about their products.
Somebody over there saw my e-mail name and said this must be the Nikki everyone is calling about. They e-mailed me saying please call us, we need to talk.

My heart is racing, I'm thinking did I do something wrong?
Why would they want me to call them? What did I do?

That's when she (Linda) says we have had many phone calls about you.
(at this point I"m thinking aww dang I'm in trouble!!!) She ask have you been talking about our products, I said umm yeah, why what's wrong?

She said THANKS!!!:D
On behalf of everyone here at Fair and Flawless we just wanted to say thank you for saying such nice things about us!! I would like to send you some free samples as a way of appreciation. You think I'm going to turn that down? She asked me what would you like? I said a facial cream would be nice.

I posted the picture right here at askmehelpdesk of what she sent me. It was not a sample, all those products were full sizes, cleanser, toner, another facial cleanser with little scrubbing beads in it, facial moisturizer that smelled like it had benzoyl peroxide in it, maybe that was for acne and the facial cream. 5 free products all for me!!

And it was do to all the haters out there who thought I worked for the company, who called and complained about me only for it to turn around on them and I ended up with free products. And that's the story of how Nikki got her first jar of Fair and Flawless.

The end....

Your right, anyone who does reads the posts, who really reads post can see the truth, not skip over only to find the negatives.

You've never been banned?
How could you?
Once your found out you leave.

You need several ID's to lie.
I only need one ID/screen name for the truth.
I'll change my attitude has soon as you stop you changing screen names.
Do we have a deal?

Oh please stop the "I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem" routine.:rolleyes: Sweety you can't retract those claws now. You put them out there for all to see. Too late to play naive, aww chucks I was just looking for a cream. Game over, the gig is up!!!

I don't need any link to reviews to the bright skin forum.
I have no problem with any members of that forum.
You brought them into this, not me. You leave them alone!!!

This is between me, you, abbycute, whiteandlight and shantifive. LOL!!!
In fact you had no business bringing me into it like you did. You didn't play your cards right girl.

You know what's really sad? Your the one sitting at your computer trying to make a sale of your wanna be products in the forums and your doing it in such a way that it's almost embarrassing. I am truly embarrassed for you.

WHO YOU SHOULD BE Embarrassed FOR IS YOURSELF because you can't even admit to the discount that you offered me (and I thought you were just trying to be nice). If you didn't offer me or anyone else any discounts why would you be banned from dozens of sites? You never said that any moderator first asked F&F for free samples and they said no that was never in the original post in 2005 so, what are you talking about affiliate/owner of F&F?

Here is a quote from the actual post by nikkicute:

"The other mod from the now gone lighterkskin proboards was as I written before greedy. She wanted free samples of Fair and Flawless and wanted me to get them for her, I refused. I was banned. Just like that. I ask you, was that fair? I was banned for no other reason than her wanting to get her hands on those products, which she is still trying to do."

SOUNDS SUSPICIOUS TO ME!

Please don't be mad at me because I was still in school in 2005 earning my masters and could care less about your products even though PEOPLE HAD BAD REVIEWS OF YOUR PRODUCT ALL THE WAY BACK THEN!

Personally, I think if your husband's a lawyer he needs to sue all the people who are telling the TRUTH about what happened to their skin as the result of the products you are hawking to every skin whitening forum!

YOU SHOULD BE Embarrassed FOR YOURSELF if you remember I didn't ask for any advice from you, I didn't PM, and I really wasn't talking to you. I was already getting good advice from the OTHER members here because I had already done a search for all your posts and realized what you're up to and after this I am sure all the other members here will too!

THE TRUTH IS IN THE PUDDING SWEETHEART all that needs to be done is for someone to read the links that I posted. Wow, you really think people are dumb, don't you?

I guess everyone has been LYING since 2005 http://excoboard.com/exco/archive.php?ac=t&forumid=65288&date=11-07-2006&t=602208-1! Coincidentally when you joined the forum to talk about F&F!

Sounds like nikkicute=SPAMMER to me! :)

Your slipping!!
Part of my post page 14 post #138 after Father Chuck's discovery:

Still no answer from AbbyCute in pm and no answer from Tonquie to my second question I asked 6 days ago. WhiteandLight and I were chattnig in pm. Now WhiteandLight and AbbyCute no longer except private messages and Shantifive came in not excepting private messages.

I still think Shantifive is also another id. Notice only one post praising a product and posting her continuous support "to your company".
Who's company is she talking about? Don't know because as you can see
(page 13 post#122 #123 ) she did not answer my question to which product she was referring to.

Oh well...it's all over and done with for this vendor in this forum.
I know for a FACT this company has nothing to do with Fair and Flawless.
I suggest being more honest when trying to sell your wares.


You see? You see what you just did?
I pm'd abbycute, I pm'd whiteandlight. I NEVER pm'd beautifulskin.
You remember me PMing when YOU were Abbycute and WhiteandLight!! That's why you keep bringing up private messages!

Ooooops!
I told you... I told you, keep talking.
The more you post the more you give yourself away!
You've got your screen names all mixed up!
And you've got a Masters Degree right? LOL!!

Never said I had a husband, re-read the post and you will see I was talking about the haters calling Fair and Flawless with that silly little threat.

Ooooops! You did it again!
beautifulskin:
YOU SHOULD BE EMBARASSED FOR YOURSELF if you remember I didn't ask for any advice from you, I didn't PM, and I really wasn't talking to you. I was already getting good advice from the OTHER members here because I had already done a search for all your posts and realized what you're up to and after this I am sure all the other members here will too!

You did ask for my advice!
Never said you pm'd.
You just can't seem to get those pm's right, now can you?

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June 29, 2009, 09:37 AM
Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Is that not you addressing me BY NAME asking for advice?
Doesn't take a Masters to see that! It's pretty simple really.

And you said you were already getting good advice from the other members here because you had already done a search of all my posts? LIAR!
That post above was only your SECOND post!

Your FIRST post was Hello all nice to be here, I'm a fan of Tonique,
The above post is your SECOND post asking me which cream I'd recommend.
Between your first post and your second where are the others already giving you advice? Show me!! Where? Wait a sec, I know, let me guess, they pm'd you this advice? LOL!! And by this time out of ALL the members here you supposedly went back and looked at all of my posts? When? In June? Yeah right!

You only started looking back at my posts last night after I posted why Indian Princess thought you were a scammer, and you know it!!

Not only can you not get your screen names straight, you can't get your story straight. Your time line is all wrong Ms. Masters Degree! I repeat,
I'm embarrassed for you.

Come on!
Just give up already!
It's done. Your done!
You're a LIAR!!
And that should not be a surprise since Tonique is a liar too, with pictures (that were later removed) that did not belong to them, with fake testimonies all sounding like the same person, paragraphs taken from the Fair and Flawless website, along with the copy cat naming of products also claiming to be in business since 1999. Now you know that's a lie!!

All of us who have been in the skin lightening game know just about every product that is out there. Never heard of this cream until this year.

Stop with the 2005 post!
You expect me to remember some post I wrote 4 years ago?
I don't have to explain 2005 to you, I know what happened and why do you care about what went down with me and mod from 2005. That's old news!!
I think I know. Let's keep bringing up 2005 to distract from the fact that you can't explain away your 2009 posts. Ohhhh I got it now.;) You just might not be that dumb after all.

Anyway Nikki, Allison, or whoever you are it is obvious that you know a lot about the skin lightening game almost too much! I am sure you remember posts from 4 years ago because it got you banned from all the sites, I know you remember that!

JUST ACCEPT IT THE JIG IS UP!

I DON'T WANT YOUR DISOUNT OR YOUR ADVICE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE Ulterior MOTIVES!

WHAT HAPPENED NOT THREATENING LEGAL ACTION ANYMORE??

HAVE YOUR LAWYER HUSBAND SUE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO USED YOUR PRODUCTS AND BROKE OUT AND ENDED UP DARKER THAN WHEN THEY STARTED ALLISON!

OK I'm lost
Its all a bit weird on here now :S

ok im lost
its all a bit wierd on here now :S

LOL! Sorry about that.:o
Don't worry about being lost it's not worth following.
Silly isn't it?
Arguing over skin lightening?
That is weird but it happens.

I'll get back to the subject at hand.
Poor, poor Weezing sometimes her thread get's hijacked! Lol

Hey Nikki... I don't know either of the two of you here... But I am on your side girl and I have sen you post more genuine posts than that tonique lover...


I know how people want to defame the others when their products or their authenticity is being questioned..


That silly btcih ANATOLA tried those games with me too... I wrote her a mail on mono regimen help and she came up with FAKE SNAPSHOTS which could be TAMPERED WITH and stated I was in the United States of America and that ANil from Monobenzone was actually ME !


Hahaha


I even asked Father Chuck to take action.. Fortunately he had track of all the IP addresses ( he counted as TEN.. I wouldn't be surprised if they were more because I access various comps in my University Library ) and confirmed to me in pm that I was actually in the UK and all my addresses were traced out of the UK..


That silly ANATOLA... were all out at me.. with ANATOLA saying that OH GOD WHAT A LIAR and crap.. I can't believe the limits she went to to lie about me just because her favourite product monobenzone from her supplier ( or is she the supplier herself :)) ) never worked for me.

Or wait ! Maybe she was a part of the benzylarbutin team which never worked for me either. And all I did was say that both the products weren't working for me... So she had to concoct this HUGE story about how she tracked

My IP THROUGH HER GOVERNMENT JOB hahahaha...

I sailed in the same boat once upon a time NIKS... Don't worry I trust you more than this stupid TONIQUE lover !

Oh BTW ANATOLA how is your GOVERNMENT WORK OF SUBSTANDARD PRODUCTS OF ORIENT TOWN.. going ? And what happened to that fake ID person COMPUTER GEEK who wanted to confirm my IP Address and then dissappeared once the thread was closed down ? As far as I remember I even gave my telefone numbah and my email id to mail me and check...

One big comp wiz that comp geeek thought he ( or she? ) was !

And using the fact that I didn't know much about IP addresses and trying to make it sound as if I was lying !


Bloddy hell... Don't bother about all these crapster NIKS... they are ridiculous people... to hell with them.. just continue on our quest for lightening.. No one cares what they try to say... they are scamsters !


Well innit ;)

TONIQUE??

HELLL that sounds even shadier than BIO CLAIRE... although I know bio claire still works... with all the africans purchasing it in black beauty stores in UK...

But TONIQUE?? The shadiest name for the shadiest product!

TONIQUE???

HELLL that sounds even shadier than BIO CLAIRE.... although I know bio claire still works... with all the africans purchasing it in black beauty stores in UK...

But TONIQUE??????? The shadiest name for the shadiest product!

I just don't understand the logic. How can you look at the linkss and evidence that I've provided that NIKKI IS A SELLER and deny the truth. I think that you need to go over the posts again and actually take a look at the evidence and see that Nikki is going to all the skin lightening forums saying the same thing and was banned from several due to the PM'ing. How can you deny that?

And further more she's been doing it since 2005, what do you have to say to that? When confronted with the truth she threatened legal action. Come on you don't need glasses to see what is going on here. Furthermore, the skin bright forum has a whole long post on what Nikki's products did to their skin. I don't understand why you would defend someone like this. Help me to understand

Wow!! What the has this forum gone to??
What ever happen to freedom of speech? Nikki I'm so very sorry you got caught up in this mess. The reason I said Beautifulskin was a spammer was because of her posting pattern?? did not mean to cause any trouble in this forum and feel so badly for Nkkicute. We all know you DONOT WORK FOR FAIR AND FLAWLESS. Beautifulskin it's not that serious so I'm sorry also. Let all have some peace in this forum- PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSE.

What the HELLLLL! What's the matter with world and the people in it? I thought all these skin lightening forums were designed for us to exchange information and to learn from each other? Instead the honest ones get attacked by EBULLIES?? Beautifulskin are a poster or an Imposter? And don't get mad it's a fair question? Nikkicute you been around for many many years - But I will also direct my Qs to you. Poster or imposter? Ridiculous.

What the HELLLLL! What's the matter with world and the people in it? I thought all these skin lightening forums were designed for us to exchange information and to learn from each other? Instead the honest ones get attacked by EBULLIES??? Beautifulskin are you a poster or an Imposter? and dont get mad it's a fair question?? Nikkicute you been around for many many years - But I will also direct my Qs to you. Poster or imposter?? ridiculous.
Thank you.

:confused::(... all of this information is giving me a headache. I just want to know about the best skin lightening products that are safe and affordable? Lets just drop it and get back to what we were talking about earlier because I don't know what to believe.

Amen

umbrageous:Thanks for your support! I really appreciate it. Your story is too funny! Sounds like some James Bond type stuff going on. Government computers? IP tracking? ANATOLA? That name sounds like a Russian spy. Lol
What's going on the Monobenzoners? Don't know much about the product but I do know they can't seem to find a legit supplier and when one does they won't tell anybody else or they'll say you give me the money and I'll get the mono for you. Then later on you find out they charged you $50 when the supplier only charges $25. They kept the extra money to buy themselves more cream! Who can you trust?

Indian Princess:I'm sorry I got caught up in this mess too! I was answering a members question, next thing you know I was attacked. Your absolutely right, you can spot her posting pattern faster than any of us. It's the same old same old Tonique is good, Fair and Flawless is bad routine. Why is it that those who like Tonique hate Fair and Flawless? Why is it that those who have used Tonique say Fair and Flawless didn't work but Tonique worked great.:rolleyes: Why are the sites always intertwined with each other? Because Tonique is a knock off site!! A counterfeit! A cheap imitation! Why do you think she is going after me so hard? Cause she thinks I'm with Fair and Flawless and since she's really with Tonique, she feels she has to compete with me. In the eyes of the Tonique company Fair and Flawless is the enemy! If someone came in here and said they liked Tonique without ever even mentioning Fair and Flawless maybe they'd be more believable to me. But they are ALWAYS comparing the two with each other. Look at this blog.Same Posting Pattern (http://pokedandprodded.health.com/2008/10/14/anti-aging-company-explains-dubious-website/) Notice how they write? Notice how they sound alike? Notice how Renee (who is really Tonique) has to compete with Claire's bad experience with Tonique to post her own horror story saying Fair and Flawless (once again bringing Fair and Flawless into the conversation) sent her to the hospital but the phony want to be Fair and Flawless site Tonique is helping her skin? Yeah right! Same old pattern of Tonique is good, Fair and Flawless is bad. That post is sooooo obvious. You'd have to blind not to see it.:cool:

And then came the really big LIE, I pm'd her with a discount?:eek: I have never came on the boards accusing someone of being a seller/vendor scammer/spammer just because they really like a cream. I always give people the benefit of the doubt because I know how it feels to be accused of such things, I've been through it already. This is the first time I have come across a real seller on the boards, I can say it now, I think beautifulskin is a seller of tonique, she has something do to with that company. OK there I said it. I feel better now. When she lied and said I private messaged with a discount that just confirmed it right there!

If you look at her past post you'll see her first post was June 12, her second post 17 days later asking me for recommendations was June 29, that's the last time I posted to her! She did not come back here until Aug 26th. She was not here for all of July and mostly August. If she never came back to this forum after my last post to her I would have never even noticed she was gone. She's back 58 days later to say I pm'd her? Wait a second I don't even know her!

Indian Princess, if you think you are going to get a straight answer from beautifulskin your living in a dream world. She can't even address the issues in the posts that I have written:
Does she know abbycute?
Does she know whiteandlight?
Does she know shantifive?
Why her first post stated she was a fan of a cream she never used?
Where are the "dozens" of sites that I was supposedly banned from?
Why does she keep saying I have a husband who's a lawyer? Lol

Your not going to get a honest answer either. What she'll do is distract you with the old stand by "nikki works for Fair and Flawless" and the 2005 drama.:rolleyes:

Why does she keep bringing up the bright skin forum?
Why would I care what they say about Fair and Flawless?
That same forum has a member saying Bio Claire ruined there skin.
I've seen more post about Maraki making people's skin break out.
But I have nothing against any of those products. She can link to bad reviews of Fair and Flawless (which are exaggerated by the way) all she wants does not prove a thing. I've got a link to bad Tonique reviews. Not every cream is going to work for everyone.

You and Golden Girl are right, I have to let the eBullies go and move on.
Get back to discussing more positive things.:D

Well said Nkki! Now beautifulskin I'm convinced that Nikki is simply a BIG fan of F&F..

You on the other hand is clearly looking from BLOOD from Fair & Flawless Company. All of your post is clearly pointing in that direction.
You are always on the attack calling out and accusing that F&F just like NIKKI said. Smells kind of fishy to me...

TONIQUE???

HELLL that sounds even shadier than BIO CLAIRE.... although I know bio claire still works... with all the africans purchasing it in black beauty stores in UK...

But TONIQUE??????? The shadiest name for the shadiest product!


LOL!! Even the website looks crappy and shifty.

LOL!!!! Even the website looks crappy and shifty.

You guys have obviously been bamboozled if you think that Nikki doesn't work for F&F. There are too many signs pointing to the OBVIOUS and for years at that. Her real name is Allison and she works for F&F. Google ALLISON AND FAIR AND FLAWLESS and see what you find!! Then again you may not want to do that because Allison has multiple computers at home and at the shop so, therefore she has multiple IP addresses so all of you are probably the SAME PERSON. Notice Maharani has not posted here ever since I mentioned that she was in the same forum backing up Nikki all the way back in 2005. Allison give it up you are forgetting I know who you really are. ;)

Indian Princess
That's it! That's it! That's it right there!
What in the world does she have against (except their success) this company of which she has never used their products? Why is she out for blood? What did they do to her? Why all the hate? Every skin lightening cream you find has at least one bad review. Name a company and I'll show you several
Complaints against them. That's how it is, even the best of companies have them. So what's all the fuss about? She posted I should be mad at the bright skin forum and not her, well she should not be mad at me and direct all her anger to Fair and Flawless.

Instead she wants to try and convince others that I work for them and it's not working because those links don't prove anything! It's simply not true.

Remember this?

Posted by adamjohn
Fair and flawless completely damaged my skin they also never
send the same formation of cream when you re-order.

adamjohn
I use a cream called Eliminer and pills. I have been using these products for a year now and my skin has gone from medium brown to very light olive. The cream is expensive but work quite quickly but the pills took about 3 months before i saw a difference. There is nothing toxic in these products i am very pleased with them i am asian and eliminer products are great. I bought from Fair & Flawless but they sell toxic products that really damaged my skin.

Indian Princess to adamjohn:
You such an obvious spammer. That eliminer site looks so sketcy!!

nikkicute:
You saw that too right? LOL!!
It's also obvious because these people make a couple of posts and someone calls them out on it POOF!! there gone....

Wheres abbycute?
Wheres whiteandlight?
Wheres shantifive?

I bet adamjohn's not coming back to this site/thread anymore.
(at least not under that user name).
Now the site does not come up anymore, it's a blank page.
oh boy!!

LOL! You spotted him with a quickness! Another poster who recently joined
Says bad things about Fair and Flawless, when called out then poof! Another one bites the dust!

Guess what? Adamjohn has not been back since, scared so bad deleted all posts on the way out too! LOL! Made sure you couldn't follow.
You can't even find past post except in other members quotes. I knew that was going to happen. When these new members start posting and come out swinging you know something is up.

LOL! :D Did you just call the Tonique site "shifty"? That's a new one.
Oh, I told you she wasn't going to answer your question.
Her silence and refusal of not answering questions speaks VOLUMES!
And she expects others to listen to her when she points the accusing finger towards me? At least I was women enough to answer mine. You can do that when you have the truth on your side.

beautifulskin
You putting out the name Allison only proves one thing, you have been reading the chat threads, that's the only way you know that name. So what!
It's not me, moving on...

Fair and Flawless is a PROFESSIONAL company that does not even know about these chat boards and has no need to hire someone to sit and post, they are far too busy being successful filling out orders due to the popularity of their products. I can't say the same for Tonique.

Maharani has been a valuable member of this forum since 2007 with over 300 post and is still active. She probably didn't think anything of it and of you. Wish I would have done the same.

What you should be doing is focusing on is your fixing yourself up for the wedding and taking care of your precious baby girl and forget about fighting with Nikki and Fair and Flawless. There are more important things in life you know.

Indian Princess
That's it!! That's it!! That's it right there!!
What in the world does she have against (except their success) this company of which she has never used their products? Why is she out for blood? What did they do to her? Why all the hate? Every skin lightening cream you find has at least one bad review. Name a company and I'll show you several
complaints against them. That's how it is, even the best of companies have them. So what's all the fuss about? She posted I should be mad at the bright skin forum and not her, well she should not be mad at me and direct all her anger to Fair and Flawless.

Instead she wants to try and convince others that I work for them and it's not working because those links don't prove anything!! It's simply not true.

Remember this?

Posted by adamjohn
Fair and flawless completely damaged my skin they also never
send the same formation of cream when you re-order.

adamjohn
I use a cream called Eliminer and pills. I have been using these products for a year now and my skin has gone from medium brown to very light olive. The cream is expensive but work quite quickly but the pills took about 3 months before i saw a difference. There is nothing toxic in these products i am very pleased with them i am asian and eliminer products are great. I bought from Fair & Flawless but they sell toxic products that really damaged my skin.

Indian Princess to adamjohn:
You such an obvious spammer. That eliminer site looks so sketcy!!

nikkicute:
You saw that too right? LOL!!
It's also obvious because these people make a couple of posts and someone calls them out on it POOF!! there gone....

Wheres abbycute?
Wheres whiteandlight?
Wheres shantifive?

I bet adamjohn's not coming back to this site/thread anymore.
(at least not under that user name).
Now the site does not come up anymore, it's a blank page.
oh boy!!

LOL!! You spotted him with a quickness!! Another poster who recently joined
says bad things about Fair and Flawless, when called out then poof!! Another one bites the dust!!

Guess what? Adamjohn has not been back since, scared so bad deleted all posts on the way out too!! LOL!! Made sure you couldn't follow.
You can't even find past post except in other members quotes. I knew that was going to happen. When these new members start posting and come out swinging you know something is up.

LOL!!:D Did you just call the Tonique site "shifty"? That's a new one.
Oh, I told you she wasn't going to answer your question.
Her silence and refusal of not answering questions speaks VOLUMES!!
And she expects others to listen to her when she points the accusing finger towards me? At least I was women enough to answer mine. You can do that when you have the truth on your side.

beautifulskin
You putting out the name Allison only proves one thing, you have been reading the chat threads, that's the only way you know that name. So what!
It's not me, moving on....

Fair and Flawless is a PROFESSIONAL company that does not even know about these chat boards and has no need to hire someone to sit and post, they are far too busy being successful filling out orders due to the popularity of their products. I can't say the same for Tonique.

Maharani has been a valuable member of this forum since 2007 with over 300 post and is still active. She probably didn't think anything of it and of you. Wish I would have done the same.

What you should be doing is focusing on is your fixing yourself up for the wedding and taking care of your precious baby girl and forget about fighting with Nikki and Fair and Flawless. There are more important things in life you know.

WHAT A COINCIDENCE THAT YOU KNOW AND HAVE HEARD OF ALLISON! LOL!
That's just because that's you! I was concentrating on myself until you started spreading RUMORS AND LIES! Next time you should investigate yourself and your motives before investigating anyone else. Instead of putting down Spa Basin and Tonique let's focus on the review for your company, you should go and defend those and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!

LOL!!!! Even the website looks crappy and shifty.

NIKKI/ALLISON/INDIANPRINCESS/MAHARANI I hope you know that saying things about Tonique when you've never tried it and promoting F&F only makes you look more like you're selling the product!;)

nikkicute/allison/indianprincess/maharani=spammmmerrrsss! They are all the same person and all own f&f!

OK how about you all just get over it?

Lol

nikkicute/allison/indianprincess/maharani=spammmmerrrsss!! They are all the same person and all own f&f!!



How dare you call me a spammer. I have been a member of skin lightening boards for more han 10 years. I have always been totally honest in my posts and any advice or recommendations I give.


Please get your facts straight before you make such accusations. You are so wrong and need to think before you post.

By the way, if I was affiliated with F & F, I would hardly be saying that the results are inconsistent... Think about it, you silly person.

This clearly a losing battle fighting with this person. Lets just all move on like I said in my earlier post. Ridiculous!!

I am warning everyone here that nikkicute/indianprincess/maharani are all the same person and I am very familiar with this person. Anyone thinking of purchasing any product including F&F should not take any stock in what these "people" have to say at all. What she's doing is trying to appear as if she is not all of these people but, she is. Try these products because you want to NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT SHE SAYS! If you notice a lot of the screen names that I mentioned all just showed up after I mentioned them! You can't say I didn't warn you! (ie. Her best bud Maharani that has been in all the same skin lightening forums as her since 2005 the same time as her backing up all her "statements" about Fair and Flawless). DON'T BE FOOLED PEOPLE! I have more details but, I will keep them to myself for the time being!

Well, about Adam John. I had reported him and asked for him to be banned from here because he started sending me harassing pm messages about his junk products saying I shouldn't say that about him, and then started attacking me on the forum, although others noticed he was a spammer also. It's his fault for bad business, I told him to do it right and go buy some banners. He sent me a pm saying how he was ticked at me because I called his Elimer crushed up tylenol, which it is... so he can't come back anymore and all his marketing messages were deleted.

Only way to know who's who here is by checking their IP addresses. And if Nikkicute really had sent Beautifulskin a message, then it should be no problem for it to be posted here. But, since the "message" has never been posted, then we can say there was no message that was ever sent, correct?

Ok, so. How are everyone's regimines going do far this week? What are you using or stopped using, etc?

You gave him good advice, banner advertising to get the product noticed.
He must not like being told what to do, some think they always know better and don't listen.

Crushed up tylenol:confused: What is Elimer anyway, a powder?

My skin regime is going well.
I'm using the Crème de Laser from Fair and Flawless. Lol
Along with the Skin Brightening & Resurfacing Cleanser and the Skin Brightening Toner. It's working out fine, just trying to be more consistent when it comes to applying my creams.

The 5XF Gel is being used in my hands and I'm finally starting to see some lighting. I'm applying it thicker now. A thin layer to rub in well and a thicker layer to sit on top and let it soak in. Now I see some lightening going on.

My sister called today and she said she is using the African Queen products. I forgot I must have told her about those creams a loooong time ago. I don't talk about lightening with her but one day she asked me what should she use to lighten her knees. I really really liked the way the african products smelled, it smelled so fresh, like soap.

Lol... I just said ithat it was made with crushed up tylenol as a joke of how ineffective the stuff really was, well maybe to help headaches. But the site was selling pills that's mad with bearberry leaves, sulfur, and vitamin c. I'm unsure if sulfure helps to lighten, but what I have read before, you can buy pure quality msm sulfur for much much less at walmart. But, you would have to take so many pills of sulfur a day for a long period. The site also has these awful before and after photos in different lighting where I noticed that they had darkened and hardened the before shots, and then lightened extra bright the after shots. One of the photos it was the same photo in both shots, in another the girl is in the same room with the same clothes on as her before shot except she is posing differently! They also have a crème, but they didn't give the list of the ingredients, so I'm guessing it was the same stuff that was in their tylenol pills.

That's good that you are beginning to see some lightening with the 5XF Gel and creams. I have to make myself stay consistent because I can be impatient. How long do the products last for?

Ewww for some reason I think if took sulfur pills they'd make me constipated.
Now why do you people think they are getting away with before and after pictures with someone wearing the same cloths? I've seen those type of pics on tattoo removal cream sites.

I think I saw an Asian woman's site on how to lighten skin with sulfur a while back. She was beyond pale, I think I saw a YouTube video or was it on her site? She was giving a lecture. I have never seen an Asian women with such big lips as hers. She was cute but she had these lips! I'm thinking did she get injections or did the sulfur do that? Lol:p

This is the first time purchasing the 4oz sizes from Fair and Flawless, they should last a while because I'm not using them all over my body, the 5XF Gel on my hands and the Crème De Laser on the my face. The 1oz facial cream I usually purchase lasts me a while. You don't have to glob it on all at once.

I forgot to ask what products are you using?

LMAO... you must be referring to Thienna Ho and her sulfur pills. Yeah I saw that video a week ago and I thought the same thing. I thought her lips were pretty, but unnaturally big for her nationality. But, I also thought that they amy also look bigger than usual because her skin is very pale now and she was wearing dark red lipstick which made her lips stand out even more. But, I bet she also did get lip injections to make them larger. Honestly I thought she was prettier in her before photo before lightening.

It might make people constipated, who knows. I thought it might give people gas. I had wanted to see and read about more people having success with this product, but I haven't yet. But, if it does lighten and it's the MSM then people are better off buying them at a drug store, as they would be much cheaper. Right now I'm using a skin lightening kit I purchased from eBay made from mediderm rx, I haven't seen any lightening yet and starting to feel discouraged with the product. But, it is supposed to be mostly natural and supposedly "potent" in skin lightening, so we'll see.

nikkicute=spammer!!

Lol get over it

I am warning everyone here that nikkicute/indianprincess/maharani are all the same person and I am very familiar with this person. Anyone thinking of purchasing any product including F&F should not take any stock in what these "people" have to say at all. What she's doing is trying to appear as if she is not all of these people but, she is. Try these products because you want to NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT SHE SAYS! If you notice a lot of the screen names that I mentioned all just showed up after I mentioned them! You can't say I didn't warn you! (ie. her best bud Maharani that has been in all the same skin lightening forums as her since 2005 the same time as her backing up all her "statements" about Fair and Flawless). DON'T BE FOOLED PEOPLE! I have more details but, I will keep them to myself for the time being!

Where is the moderator? I am tired of this person and their stupid insinuations. I have nothing to hide, so please explain this to this cretin .

Where is the moderator? I am tired of this person and their stupid insinuations. I have nothing to hide, so please explain this to this cretin .

Why don't you explain it Maharani/nikkicute/allison/indianprincess? I agree that the moderator should moderate you!! LOL:D

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