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tomder55
Mar 18, 2009, 03:09 PM
Have you taken the pledge yet ? I had a neighbor email me the pledge asking me to sign on and it kind of floored me.
Organizing for America | Organizing for America Pledge Project (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/pledgeproject)
I tell you Saul Alinsky would be proud . The President has extended his Alinsky modelled perpetual campaign into an art form.
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.”
Michelle Obama
There is a new political organization being formed before our eyes . It's influence will exceed in short time puney groups like People for the American Way because it is a continuation of the Obama movement .It may in fact become a greater force than either political party.
It is called 'Organizing for America' Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Obama HQ Blogger: Organizing for America (http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGxFj8)
The President calls it a grass roots movement for propaganda purposes but it is anything but. The full weight of the President and his political party is behind it.
The Obama grassroots network—now known as Organizing for America, a project of the Democratic National Committee—has launched an e-mail pledge drive on MyBarackObama.com in which supporters sign their e-mail address to the statement: “I support President Obama's bold approach for renewing America's economy.”
The pledge drive was announced with a video called “Ready for the Fight.” Plouffe e-mailed supporters over the weekend with a challenge labeled “The next few weeks”: “In the next few weeks we'll be asking you to do some of the same things we asked of you during the campaign—talking directly to people in your communities about the President's ideas for long-term prosperity.”
Obama launches message war - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20007.html)
The Obots collected a thirteen million person e-mail listduring the run up to the election and they are enlisting as many of them as possible in this effort.
They are asking you to sign a pledge... not the nation ;the constitution ;not even the flag... but to Obama and his plan.
This is a big test to the concept of a permanent campaign . The President is counting on a door to door and emailing barage by his minions and this could be a template on how he fights future legislative battles.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/us/politics/18webcol-zeleny.html
twinkiedooter
Mar 18, 2009, 03:40 PM
Well, Michelle did say that he was a "taskmaster", now didn't she? If a person were to say that in say, Africa, they would probably be shot at or clubbed to death as this is another euphasism for slave master.
Can eveyone say Seig Heil? Ok, all you 13 million Obamatrons in unision say Seig Heil.
Tom - do you even speak to your robot neighbor at all before or after this email?
inthebox
Mar 18, 2009, 06:10 PM
I love the way the plan is so so detailed :eek:
What kind of health reform if Obama does not even think the government should foot the bill for service connected illnesses?
Does renewable energy come with a carbon TAX?
Does renewable energy include nuclear?
Does education reform include choice? Vouchers ? Limiting the salaries of university presidents? Limiting college tuition?
Congress may be sheep like and just as mentally deficient to be passing his spendusintoablivious bills, but are the citizenry really that gullible?
G&P
tomder55
Mar 19, 2009, 02:13 AM
Yes we are good friends.
UPDATE 1-Obama to mobilize supporters in budget push | Industries | Financial Services & Real Estate | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSN1653485620090316)
If she comes by Saturday I intend to take time from my schedule to have a lengthy discussion on the "merits" of the President's budget. I figure the more time spend debating me;the less time in the rest of the day for going door to door .
George_1950
Mar 19, 2009, 08:46 AM
Well, Michelle did say that he was a "taskmaster"...
I'm just curious if Michelle hasn't bithc-slapped Barack and told him to get rid of the incompetent boys managing the White House.
speechlesstx
Mar 19, 2009, 09:21 AM
Yes, the Obama propaganda machine is in high gear. There is no escaping the all Obama all the time coverage. You can't even escape him in the sports page - the biggest article in our sports section today was on Obama's brackets - or late night TV as you know. Now we'll have the Obama army scouring the neighborhoods and ramping up the digital chatter. Since he's expanding the federal welfare payroll exponentially they can all work for him full time before long.
I hope they come knocking on my door.
NeedKarma
Mar 19, 2009, 09:33 AM
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speechlesstx
Mar 19, 2009, 10:54 AM
The House passed the GIVE act (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388) yesterday, the first step in Obama's mandatory national service plan. I'm telling you, doublethink is reality. I don't know how else you can describe "mandatory" volunteerism. From Sec 6104 of the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act:
(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:
(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.
(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.
(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.
(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.
(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.
(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
excon
Mar 19, 2009, 11:06 AM
Hello again,
History tells us that when one president goes too far in one direction, the next one is going to be too far in the other direction.
If you didn't want such a leftward lean, you shouldn't have supported such a rightward lean, like the one we just had.
I know, I know. You didn't care how far right you pushed, because you bought into the Rove fantasy that there was going to be a permanent right wing majority.
Obama is the PROOF that Rove was wrong, oh so wrong!
excon
George_1950
Mar 19, 2009, 11:12 AM
"The House passed the GIVE act yesterday...." The hotlink says, "...This is the text of the bill after coming out of committee in the House...."
Time for the ACLU?
speechlesstx
Mar 19, 2009, 11:29 AM
"The House passed the GIVE act yesterday...." The hotlink says, "...This is the text of the bill after coming out of committee in the House...."
Time for the ACLU?
It isn't just "after coming out of committee, the status (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388) is Passed House Mar 18, 2009.
tomder55
Mar 19, 2009, 11:30 AM
History tells us that when one president goes too far in one direction, the next one is going to be too far in the other direction.
Really ? We had virtually uninterrupted "New Deal/Great Society " left wing progressive statism from 1932-1980. We have a long way to go to get back to the center .
speechlesstx
Mar 19, 2009, 11:33 AM
Hello again,
History tells us that when one president goes too far in one direction, the next one is going to be too far in the other direction.
If you didn't want such a leftward lean, you shouldn't have supported such a rightward lean, like the one we just had.
I know, I know. You didn't care how far right you pushed, because you bought into the Rove fantasy that there was going to be a permanent right wing majority.
Obama is the PROOF that Rove was wrong, oh so wrong!
Again with the myth that Bush was a hardcore conservative? I think you'll have a hard time finding where I ever "didn't care how far right you pushed."
George_1950
Mar 19, 2009, 11:35 AM
It isn't just "after coming out of committee, the status (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388) is Passed House Mar 18, 2009.
Thanks; we shall follow this.
twinkiedooter
Mar 19, 2009, 12:35 PM
So just how are they going to enforce this nonsense with the "youth" of America? And what are the "punishments" going to be for not "volunteering"? This is definitely going to be good...
tomder55
Mar 20, 2009, 08:36 AM
The Obots have one more day to organize their "Pledge Project Canvas".
Organizing for America | Host a Pledge Project Canvass (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/pledgeprojectcanvassguide/)
Best idea I have heard to date to run some rear guard action is to attempt to engage them in a lengthy debate and thus denying them the time to complete their neighborhood. Who knows ? Perhaps you can penetrate the kool-aid induced haze and help them get rid of that leg tingle.
speechlesstx
Mar 24, 2009, 09:09 AM
Apparently Congress didn't get much heat from Obama's army (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/64644.html) on the first weekend. That's OK though, Obama is busy reaching out to friendly media (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20395.html) and liberal bloggers. How long before we hear liberal outrage over the The Obama Parrot Media (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bf_1173538363)?
tomder55
Mar 24, 2009, 09:44 AM
Obama supporters knocked on an estimated 1 million doors in all 50 states.
That's all ? Wow ,back-bencher Conservative talk shows have more of an impact. Maybe that buyer's remorse has penetrated the street level rank and file .
Meanwhile, established liberal groups are gearing up to stop the Blue Dogs in more traditional ways. The Campaign for America's Future and other groups have scheduled a joint news conference for Tuesday to announce what they term a "new campaign to dog the Blue Dogs."
Love it ! A couple of months into the Obama administration the Dems are setting up the circular firing squad ! Or perhaps this is the equivalent of the Soviet Great Purge;the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution of China ;or the Night of Long Knives, to get rid of the unpure.
speechlesstx
Mar 24, 2009, 10:33 AM
“For Democrats, diversity is not just a slogan, it is a bedrock principal.” - Sen. Harry Reid
That is, as long as you walk in lockstep.
twinkiedooter
Mar 24, 2009, 03:27 PM
Hey Tomder! Thanks for the heads up on the Obot invasion last weekend. Apparently there were TWO Obots in my neighborhood on Sunday! OMG! Yep. Two kids aged probably 10 and 14 were out drumming up (or trying to drum up) business for the boss. They didn't come to my door though as they happily ran out of paperwork about a 1/2 block away (or threw the papers away) and went home. Gosh, I would have given anything to have confronted the Obots and asked them a few questions they could not have answered. Gee, 10 and 14 year olds!! Oddly enough they were both black. Their mother is white and father is black. Neither parent was with these kids. They live in the next community over as I recognized them. My community has 55 year old and over in it. I'm disappointed I didn't get a chance to confront the Obots.
P.S. Here in Podunk Ohio, there were zero and none Obama yard signs last year. Wonder why the kids threw away their paperwork? Guess they didn't have any takers for their Obot baloney.
speechlesstx
Apr 3, 2009, 02:10 PM
So the Obamasses failed to exciting the brown shirts to action. So the brown shirts failed (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512208,00.html) to win the propaganda war over Obama's $3.6 trillion (which was passed while Chris Matthews was getting another thrill (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-ens/2009/04/01/matthews-chirps-groovy-cool-obamas-giving-him-another-thrill) over his G20 diversion). What failure? The DNC just greatly exaggerates their impact (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/01/AR2009040104218.html) anyway:
A quartet of Democratic senators joined scores of union workers and students yesterday in a Russell hearing room across the hall from the office where John F. Kennedy once toiled. Campaign-style signs decorated the room demanding "SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BUDGET" and "PASS THE OBAMA BUDGET."
"Repeat after me!" Common Cause President Bob Edgar commanded, then started a call-and-response chant: "We are! The leaders! We have been waiting for!"...
At Democratic National Committee headquarters yesterday morning, party workers were loading minivans with Xerox boxes, each addressed to a different congressional office. It was a classic campaign canvassing operation -- except that the next election is 19 months away. "Supporters of President Obama's Budget to Hand Deliver 642,000 Pledges Gathered from Around the Country to Capitol Hill," announced the Democrats' news release.
CNN and the Huffington Post dutifully reported the DNC's claim of 642,000 pledges. Network cameras and the BBC showed up to film the operation. "We had one of the big printers downstairs smoking last night," party spokesman Brad Woodhouse said.
In fact, the canvassing of Obama's vaunted e-mail list of 13 million people resulted in just 114,000 pledges -- a response rate of less than 1 percent. Workers gathered 100,000 more from street canvassing. The DNC got to 642,000 by making three photocopies of each pledge so that each signer's senators and representative could get one.
1984, the adventure...
N0help4u
Apr 3, 2009, 03:41 PM
Have you taken the pledge yet ? I had a neighbor email me the pledge asking me to sign on and it kinda floored me.
Organizing for America | Organizing for America Pledge Project (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/pledgeproject)
I tell you Saul Alinsky would be proud . The President has extended his Alinsky modelled perpetual campaign into an art form.
Michelle Obama
There is a new political organization being formed before our eyes . It's influence will exceed in short time puney groups like People for the American Way because it is a continuation of the Obama movement .It may in fact become a greater force than either political party.
It is called 'Organizing for America' Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Obama HQ Blogger: Organizing for America (http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGxFj8)
The President calls it a grass roots movement for propaganda purposes but it is anything but. The full weight of the President and his political party is behind it.
Obama launches message war - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20007.html)
The Obots collected a thirteen million person e-mail listduring the run up to the election and they are enlisting as many of them as possible in this effort.
They are asking you to sign a pledge ...... not the the nation ;the constitution ;not even the flag ...but to Obama and his plan.
This is a big test to the concept of a permanent campaign . The President is counting on a door to door and emailing barage by his minions and this could be a template on how he fights future legislative battles.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/us/politics/18webcol-zeleny.html
Yeap! Haven't I been saying since askme.com about this very thing?
I have been saying for over 30 years that we are going to be socialist and that they are going to send these 'brown shirts' for anybody that does not conform to the New World Order and take the RFID chip... Remember my post on the FEMA camps. They are a fact.
tomder55
Apr 4, 2009, 03:02 AM
The NY Slimes endorsed Nazi styled economic recoveries that the President is adopting this week.
The New York Times > Log In (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/business/economy/01leonhardt.html?_r=5&ref=business) (registration required )
Every so often, history serves up an analogy that's uncomfortable, a little distracting and yet still very relevant.
In the summer of 1933, just as they will do on Thursday, heads of government and their finance ministers met in London to talk about a global economic crisis. They accomplished little and went home to battle the crisis in their own ways.
More than any other country, Germany — Nazi Germany — then set out on a serious stimulus program. The government built up the military, expanded the autobahn, put up stadiums for the 1936 Berlin Olympics and built monuments to the Nazi Party across Munich and Berlin.
The economic benefits of this vast works program never flowed to most workers, because fascism doesn't look kindly on collective bargaining. But Germany did escape the Great Depression faster than other countries. Corporate profits boomed, and unemployment sank (and not because of slave labor, which didn't become widespread until later).Harold James , an economic historian, says that the young liberal economists studying underJohn Maynard Keynes .in the 1930s began to debate whether Hitler had solved unemployment.
Author David Leonhardt goes on to endorse a massive stimulus approach for the current economic downturn similar to the one that is being adopted here.
I guess we should just forget that part of the German economic recovery meant the massive confiscation of the private wealth of the German Jews ;their homes, businesses, land and gold were all seized as Hitler stoked envy against that segment of the population. (last week Obama told the bankers in a meeting at the White House that he was the only thing that stood between them and the pitch forks... this after his government's rhetoric inflamed the masses against the bankers ).Hitler was the rock star of his time with people ,especially intellectuals ,on both sides of the Atlantic defending his actions. (for more on this read The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze, and Hitler's Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State by Gotz Aly.)
Leonhardt is one of these defenders of Obamanomics who concedes the New Deal was a failure;but the reason it failed in his view is that FDR did not spend enough to get the US out of the depression.
Later in the article he points out that Roosevelt did "spend us out of the depression" when he mobilized for WWII.
So in other words ;the way to economic recovery is the ramp up military spending .But what he conveniently forgets to add is that 15 million Americans were also under arms which did wonders to the unemployment rates (the same is true of the German unemployment rate in the 1930s).
Leonhardt also fails to point out that for Hitler's scheme to work he needed wars of conquest.
NeedKarma
Apr 4, 2009, 04:02 AM
Can't wait until the old folks die off so we hear less of this doomsaying.
N0help4u
Apr 5, 2009, 10:55 AM
Yeah then you can LIVE in doomsday- what a peaceful bliss.