My neighbour keeps phoning the police on me for noice when she's the one making all of it banging slamming till 3 4 in the morning dog barking all night her partner punched my partner as he was being nice and telling him not to get in the car drunk as he will kill himself we have a sofa if your arguing
My partner decked him I saw the kids and dragged him off him and proceeded to take him home to phone the police and he kicks me full force in the back knowing I have42 stitches in my spine. We left that there to keep the peace then they but it has got worse she's screaming at my daughter vicking me calling me slag I sing with my daughter and I was doing so one mrnig at breakfast when comes banging the door and screaming and shouting at me and my 7 year old daughter for singing so I snapped and screamed at her and she wouldn't get out of my face and scrammed me so I punched her a few times in the face as id taken enough I haven't told you quarter of all the incidents but it has got worse and worse I have phoned the housing association phoned environmental health the police kept a log and listened to every thing they have said but the problems are getting worse if something is not done soon I'm going to end up killing her I am desperate oh and I've tried mediation doesn't work tried doing her for harassment doesn't work please help me and my family have been through enough with me being so ill and dying a couple of times luckily brought back.

Hello Cath,

You have my sympathy. Having had similar problems myself, though not so bad, I believe I know how you are feeling.

Although I cannot blame you, I feel you should not have attacked your neighbour. This does no one any good.

I assume you are a UK citizen as you live in a Housing Association property.

If so you have a legal right to 'Quiet Occupancy' This means you are legally entitled to live in your property without being harassed by your neighbours.

There are several laws covering this in the UK and your landlords have a legal duty to investigate and take action when required.

Although these laws are in force, they do not seem to be being enforced as often as they should.

The courts have the power to evict problem tenants/neighbours as a last straw.

Of course no one wants to see a family homeless but if they bring it on themselves, they have only themselves to blame.

My advice is to get as much proof as you can about what is going on, especially any witnesses who are prepared to stand by you and confirm what is happening. Unfortunately many witnesses to this type of thing are extremely reluctant to come forward because they normally live in the neighbourhood and either not willing to get involved or are afraid of reprisals from the troublesome tenants.

Once you have the evidence, take it to your landlords and insist that they do something to protect your family and to stop the harassment.

Also, go to either a solicitor or your local Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB) for advice and help. Depending on your circumstances, you may have to pay for a solicitor or you may be entitled to Legal Aid. In any event, most solicitors will give you a free first consultation. The CAB is totally free and confidential and they will be very used to dealing with this type of situation.

If any of your family is verbally or physically attacked again, contact the police and your Landlords and insist that action is taken. Provide both with any proof you have.

If your Housing Association still will not take action, I believe you have the right to take them to court. The CAB or solicitor will advise you about this.

Please try to avoid contact with these neighbours and do not be drawn into a confrontation with them. If they start harassing you for no reason and you do not retaliate, I am sure this will strengthen your case.

If they make any threats to your child/ren contact the police and your landlords immediately. Also, of course. If they physically or verbally abuse you.

May I wish you luck and hope that you will soon have the peace and quiet which is your right.

Poseidon

Thank you for your reply very helpful I will contact the c.a.b and see what they can do but people like her always get what they want (no neighbours) ill let you know what happens but I can not help thinking this will end in bloodshed as she knows no other way but I just hope 4 hers and my children's sake this will not happen as she likes to attack but doesn't like being attacked and I am not willing to take a beating for anyone as I have fought death for my children and will not risk my life for her

Hello again Cath,

If this person only knows violence and that violences is directed toward you and your family I must emphasize that it is imperative that you get the police and your landlords involved.

The fact that your neighbour can 'dish' it out but can't take it back is quite common.

I assume that the mediation you mentioned was organized by your landlords and if it has failed they know the situation and should be taking steps to sort the problems out.

I also live in a Housing Association property and their advice is to keep a record of date, time and incident(s) when problems occur. My landlords also have a very good relationship with the police with regard to these types of things.

If you have asked your landlords for help, harass them. Contact them everyday and ask them what they have done or are doing to help you. If they refuse to help or do nothing, threaten them that if they won't take action you will take them to court, contact your MP or even let the newspapers know that they are doing nothing.

If this situation is as bad as it appears, I believe you should make an appointment to discuss it with your local police and try to convince them that this problem is unlikely to go away and you are very fearful that it will end in bloodshed. It is their duty to protect you and your family.

Another consideration is to ask you landlords to rehouse you and get your family away from the situation you are in. Although I feel it is unfair that you should have to move if it is not your fault and you did not cause the problems, you must think about you and your families protection and safety first and foremost.

The police and/or your landlords could place surveillance equipment in or around your home in order to record what is happening. This should give them the proof they need to take action.

If you and your husband have already been assaulted by this neighbour, I am at a loss as to why the police and your landlords have not taken action already. This must be covered in yours and your neighbours Tenancy Agreements.

You could act privately of course and ask the courts for a Restraining Order preventing your neighbours from contacting you, speaking to you or coming near you. If this is granted and if it is broken your neighbours could find themselves in prison. Your landlords also have the power to apply to the court for this. If broken the neighbours could also find themselves being evicted.

Remember that you are entitled to peace and quiet and the police have a duty to try to protect you and your family if you are under threat of violence.

The CAB should be able to help you with advice about what you should do. I suggest you seek their help as soon as possible,

I have been assuming that your neighbours have the same landlords as yourself. If not it is important that you should contact their landlords and tell them what is going on and ask them to investigate and liaise with your landlords.

Again I must emphasis that violence only makes violence, so please try to steer clear of trying this as a solution. It very rarely works and only makes the situation far worse. You could also find yourself in trouble with the police. However, if you are physically attacked, you are legally entitled to protect yourself and use reasonable force in order to do this.

Below is a couple of websites which provide information which may help you:

http://www.advicekit.info/AdviceKit/Housing/Problems_with_neighbours/Threatening_or_violent_neighbours/Default.aspx

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/family_parent/housing/anti_social_behaviour_in_housing.htm

Yes, please let me know how things turn out. I wish you well.

Poseidon

Please don't kill her you don't want to do hard time believe me jail is hell

Mate, you have my full sympathy in this matter. I moved from my rented apartment with my girlfriend around about two years ago. Our last place was a sweet pad, but we had problems with the neighbours downstairs (down't wear your shoes as you walk around in the morning as it wakes me up! ; I told him to get a job then he'd not so so troubled by normal people doing everyday things... "water running and toilets flushing!!! Is this anyway to live!!??!!) that and the landlord was simply not giving us the privacy that we though we were paying for under law; we would come home and find him in the flat 'fixing' stuff. He fixed stuff so well one time when we were on holiday that we came back to a flooded home and extensive water damage. But that's another tale. So, we'd had enough and decided to buy our own place in th area as we like it where we are, nice parks, etc. We found a place only three streets up from where we were and thought great! Things are looking up!
We had a lot of work doing the place up from scratch, I fully admit that, but we never worked later than 10 at night and always had one eye on the noise levels. The first actual contact, speaking to I mean, we had with them was coming in from work to find the woman on her hands and knees outside my door trailing weeds from between the paving stones (we'd been in there about two weeks by this time); Says, me "here, missus, no worries leave those, I'll get them when I get myself changed" To which she replied..."Yes! It's terrible! Isn't it!! "
We had both tried many times before this to speak/be pleasant/and otherwise pass the time of day with them... all to no avail. They would (and still do) stand, arms crossed, speaking in aside, soto voice to their friends, staring, staring 'til we got inside to (realative saftey).
... I'm going to finish this in a while as our hairdresser has just arrived with scissors at the ready for a chopping session...

[QUOTE=ColGonk]Mate, you have my full sympathy in this matter. I moved from my rented apartment with my girlfriend around about two years ago. Our last place was a sweet pad, but we had problems with the neighbours downstairs (down't wear your shoes as you walk around in the morning as it wakes me up! ; I told him to get a job then he'd not so so troubled by normal people doing everyday things... "water running and toilets flushing!!! Is this anyway to live!!??!!) that and the landlord was simply not giving us the privacy that we though we were paying for under law; we would come home and find him in the flat 'fixing' stuff. He fixed stuff so well one time when we were on holiday that we came back to a flooded home and extensive water damage. But that's another tale. So, we'd had enough and decided to buy our own place in th area as we like it where we are, nice parks, etc. We found a place only three streets up from where we were and thought great! Things are looking up!
We had a lot of work doing the place up from scratch, I fully admit that, but we never worked later than 10 at night and always had one eye on the noise levels. The first actual contact, speaking to I mean, we had with them was coming in from work to find the woman on her hands and knees outside my door trailing weeds from between the paving stones (we'd been in there about two weeks by this time); Says, me "here, missus, no worries leave those, I'll get them when I get myself changed" To which she replied..."Yes! It's terrible! Isn't it!! "
We had both tried many times before this to speak/be pleasant/and otherwise pass the time of day with them........all to no avail. They would (and still do) stand, arms crossed, speaking in aside, soto voice to their friends, staring, staring 'til we got/get inside to (realative saftey).
One year ago they aproached my woman on the street and asked her to sign an agreement to let them build another floor on their home; she told them to ask me. They called round, all smiles and 'hello's' and handed me a veritalble stack of triplicate papers and a pen, expecting me to stand like a clampet and sign them all there and then; I asked for copies of the papers to give for inspection to our notaris for legal advise, to which they refused. Gone in an instant were the smiles and good cheer. The woamn snapped that "yes! But the work shall continue anyway!" as they stormed out.
Slow fade to a few months back... ;It was a wonderful summer. Days of glourious sunny weather unbroken by so much as a fluffy cloud, not even a breez to speak of. I took a great deal of pleasure in sitting on my roof, in the shade, having a cold drink and reading/strumming my guitar; what I'm tryiing to show here is that I was often up on the roof, I was more than familiar with my roof. One time we're sitting down to dinner when we hear a crash from above. I went up to see what was up and found our smaller chimney pot had developed a pronounced lurge to the left; looking closely at it I noticed that the plaster work and roofing materials had also been damgaged, no accident. I was livid. I went directly next door and confronted the owner, being as polite as I could. Now, we're standing there and we both know that this guy has pushed it over, shaken it like a rotten tooth 'til it's came loose and listed... but all he's saying, with a humourous glint in his eye, was that it may have been a bird landing on the pot?? What??
I went back inside, there was nothing else, short of violience that I could do. A week or so later, sweltering in the heat I went on the roof once again, finish my book and try to catch a breath of air. But! What's tis? Now our large chimney has fallen over and it looks to me that if it carrys on in that manner and at that angle it's going to fall onto the street, not good. Again I checked the condition and even to the untrained eye it was obvious that it had suffered violence, there were shards of tile laying around and, FFS! Pieces of lead scattered around a good distance from the chimney which had quite clearly been thrown there.
So, I went to the local police, thinking this has got to stop, I'm not violent, I don't think, in anyway but my sleep had been distrubted with vivid dreams of extreme ultra vilolence in which the blood spattered corpses of my neighbours would be flogged from the lamppost as I hurled shards of razor sharp tiles at their still twitching bodies... but more anon... the police stated simply that this was a civil case and not something which they would deal with. I tried a different approach; criminal/wilful damage to property, abuse and harassment on the street, verbal slander... no dice, to be honest it looked to me that the guy was still drunk from the night before, big red face and stinking of stale booze.
He would not as much as be presuaded to make an official note of the occurrence. I left unsatisfied and much aggrieved. For this we buy taxes?
Another slow fade to a while later (couple of weeks or so). We're sitting at home when we hear people on our roof. I go up and there's a crowd of workmen setting wooden struts and joists on my roof, stamping around in heavy boots and dumping equipment, CRASH! On to, and I would like to make this crystal clear, my property, property for which I pay, is what I mean to say. I asked them what in the name of all which was holy they thought they were doing and they said that they had the right to use the space. They wouldn't go as far as to give me any further details and rudely carried on in their destructive manner. Again I went and asked the neighbours what was going on and they were more than rude and aggressive toward myself. We went to the building permit place to be told that we had signed the papers giving them the go ahead to build, use our space (as they've built on our wall) and access to the area for their equipment, etc, signed away our rights as it were. We protested and after lots of complaining, phone calls and other avenues finally saw a paper which had the signature from the last owner of our home. Signed after we had bought the place! This apparently was enough for them to start work. No wis that legal. I think not.
Just to make matters even more difficult for us (believe it) the neighbours chose this time to go on vacation. This meant that we could do nothing of a legal tuen until they returned;In the meantime the work continued. Roof beams lifted from below and dropped on our roof, bricks carried up and plonked down; You'd have to have been here to get the full effect, nerve shattering. I went (and still am) a bit on the wonky side, being of a naturally nervous dispostin the constant strain of this, well it rather broke me to say the least.
Hmm, typing that last sentence caved in my will to do the rest of this, so I'll cut it down to size.
We're out a lot of cash for a legal case that could go on for ever. They have their new extension almost finished. Even if we do win the case and they have to remove the work we have no faith that our property won't sustain furthe damage of a more vindictive nature. It's almost impossible for us to have any privacy. Scaffolding round the house, builders on a daily basis looking in as they work. Now it's like living in a shared flat as they stamp around, we can hear every word, cough and expletive directed toward us. A campaign of misinformation and hatred has been instigated by these lovely friendly folk to our other immediate neighbours to the effect that we have hindered their progress in building their family home that they've lived in for 18 years while we've only been hear a short while, and why do they have to sit up so late at night, and oh! Here they come! Look at them! (quote from last week). Now we have difficulty getting so much as a cold smile from people who a short while before were more than friendly toward us.
We're going to have to drop the case which should leave us further out of pocket as we wish to sell the place as soon as possible and move away from these hate filled people next door.
I'd love to know what the problem is, but sadly I think it simply boils down to natural human animosity, our faces simply don't fit with these guys.
I want to sell the place to a crowd of drunken first year mediacl students and have them pished drunk, shouting and howling every night, give them something to complain about.

(There's a lot more to this, tatics that they've been using to get tid of our tenants, etc, but I've had enough, I've become obsessed, as has my woman with this, this is honestly all we speak of at the moment,as you can imagine we're great at parties!)
ColGonk!

[[QUOTE=ColGonk]Mate, you have my full sympathy in this matter. I moved from my rented apartment with my girlfriend around about two years ago. Our last place was a sweet pad, but we had problems with the neighbors downstairs (down't wear your shoes as you walk around in the morning as it wakes me up! ; I told him to get a job then he'd not so so troubled by normal people doing everyday things... "water running and toilets flushing!!! Is this anyway to live!!??!!) that and the landlord was simply not giving us the privacy that we though we were paying for under law; we would come home and find him in the flat 'fixing' stuff. He fixed stuff so well one time when we were on holiday that we came back to a flooded home and extensive water damage. But that's another tale. So, we'd had enough and decided to buy our own place in th area as we like it where we are, nice parks, etc. We found a place only three streets up from where we were and thought great! Things are looking up!
We had a lot of work doing the place up from scratch, I fully admit that, but we never worked later than 10 at night and always had one eye on the noise levels. The first actual contact, speaking to I mean, we had with them was coming in from work to find the woman on her hands and knees outside my door trailing weeds from between the paving stones (we'd been in there about two weeks by this time); Says, me "here, missus, no worries leave those, I'll get them when I get myself changed" To which she replied..."Yes! It's terrible! Isn't it!! "
We had both tried many times before this to speak/be pleasant/and otherwise pass the time of day with them........all to no avail. They would (and still do) stand, arms crossed, speaking in aside, sotto voice to their friends, staring, staring 'til we got/get inside to (relative softy).
One year ago they approached my woman on the street and asked her to sign an agreement to let them build another floor on their home; she told them to ask me. They called round, all smiles and 'hello's' and handed me a approached stack of triplicate papers and a pen, expecting me to stand like a clampet and sign them all there and then; I asked for copies of the papers to give for inspection to our notaris for legal advise, to which they refused. Gone in an instant were the smiles and good cheer. The woamn snapped that "yes! But the work shall continue anyway!" as they stormed out.
Slow fade to a few months back... ;It was a wonderful summer. Days of glorious sunny weather unbroken by so much as a fluffy cloud, not even a breezy to speak of. I took a great deal of pleasure in sitting on my roof, in the shade, having a cold drink and reading/strumming my guitar; what I'm trying to show here is that I was often up on the roof, I was more than familiar with my roof. One time we're sitting down to dinner when we hear a crash from above. I went up to see what was up and found our smaller chimney pot had developed a pronounced lurge to the left; looking closely at it I noticed that the plaster work and roofing materials had also been large, no accident. I was livid. I went directly next door and confronted the owner, being as polite as I could. Now, we're standing there and we both know that this guy has pushed it over, shaken it like a rotten tooth 'til it's came loose and listed... but all he's saying, with a humorous glint in his eye, was that it may have been a bird landing on the pot?? What??
I went back inside, there was nothing else, short of violence that I could do. A week or so later, sweltering in the heat I went on the roof once again, finish my book and try to catch a breath of air. But! What's tis? Now our large chimney has fallen over and it looks to me that if it carrys on in that manner and at that angle it's going to fall onto the street, not good. Again I checked the condition and even to the untrained eye it was obvious that it had suffered violence, there were shards of tile laying around and, FFS! Pieces of lead scattered around a good distance from the chimney which had quite clearly been thrown there.
So, I went to the local police, thinking this has got to stop, I'm not violent, I don't think, in anyway but my sleep had been distrubted with vivid dreams of extreme ultra vilolence in which the blood spattered corpses of my neighbors would be flogged from the lamppost as I hurled shards of razor sharp tiles at their still twitching bodies... but more anon... the police stated simply that this was a civil case and not something which they would deal with. I tried a different approach; criminal/wilful damage to property, abuse and harassment on the street, verbal slander... no dice, to be honest it looked to me that the guy was still drunk from the night before, big red face and stinking of stale booze.
He would not as much as be persuaded to make an persuaded note of the occurrence. I left unsatisfied and much aggrieved. For this we buy taxes?
Another slow fade to a while later (couple of weeks or so). We're sitting at home when we hear people on our roof. I go up and there's a crowd of workmen setting wooden struts and joists on my roof, stamping around in heavy boots and dumping equipment, CRASH! On to, and I would like to make this crystal clear, my property, property for which I pay, is what I mean to say. I asked them what in the name of all which was holy they thought they were doing and they said that they had the right to use the space. They wouldn't go as far as to give me any further details and rudely carried on in their destructive manner. Again I went and asked the neighbors what was going on and they were more than rude and aggressive toward myself. We went to the building permit place to be told that we had signed the papers giving them the go ahead to build, use our space (as they've built on our wall) and access to the area for their equipment, etc, signed away our rights as it were. We protested and after lots of complaining, phone calls and other avenues finally saw a paper which had the signature from the last owner of our home. Signed after we had bought the place! This apparently was enough for them to start work. No wis that legal. I think not.
Just to make matters even more difficult for us (believe it) the neighbors chose this time to go on vacation. This meant that we could do nothing of a legal tuen until they returned;In the meantime the work continued. Roof beams lifted from below and dropped on our roof, bricks carried up and plonked down; You'd have to have been here to get the full effect, nerve shattering. I went (and still am) a bit on the wonky side, being of a naturally nervous dispostin the constant strain of this, well it rather broke me to say the least.
Hmm, typing that last sentence caved in my will to do the rest of this, so I'll cut it down to size.
We're out a lot of cash for a legal case that could go on for ever. They have their new extension almost finished. Even if we do win the case and they have to remove the work we have no faith that our property won't sustain furthe damage of a more vindictive nature. It's almost impossible for us to have any privacy. Scaffolding round the house, builders on a daily basis looking in as they work. Now it's like living in a shared flat as they stamp around, we can hear every word, cough and expletive directed toward us. A campaign of misinformation and hatred has been instigated by these lovely friendly folk to our other immediate neighbors to the effect that we have hindered their progress in building their family home that they've lived in for 18 years while we've only been hear a short while, and why do they have to sit up so late at night, and oh! Here they come! Look at them! (quote from last week). Now we have difficulty getting so much as a cold smile from people who a short while before were more than friendly toward us.
We're going to have to drop the case which should leave us further out of pocket as we wish to sell the place as soon as possible and move away from these hate filled people next door.
I'd love to know what the problem is, but sadly I think it simply boils down to natural human animosity, our faces simply don't fit with these guys.
I want to sell the place to a crowd of drunken first year medical students and have them pished drunk, shouting and howling every night, give them something to complain about.
ColGonk!