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babygirl85
Feb 25, 2009, 01:52 AM
What do you think about people using medical treatment to treat infertility as it pertains to God's will? I will try to clarify. Here we go. Do you believe it is a sin to get infertility treatment? I'm curious as to what other people think as I am currently being treated for infertility. Lately I've been feeling as if somehow, in some way, I'm going against God's will. I couldn't even take my last pill the other day. I hope I made it clear enough to understand. Thoughts?

adam7gur
Feb 25, 2009, 02:25 AM
Nothing wrong about it!
Wash away the pseudoguilt and go ahead , strengthen your body and wait for God's blessing.
Don't fall for the enemy's lies,God wants to bless you!

450donn
Feb 25, 2009, 08:44 AM
No one can tell you what is right for you in this regard. God did keep certain women in the Bible barren for a variety of reasons. Have you been seeking Gods will in this area for your life. Maybe it is Gods will for you to adopt? I don't really know. One one hand I can understand how you could believe that it is wrong. On the other hand God wants us to be happy, prosper and multiply. On the other hand attempting to change your body could be going against Gods will for your life. All I can say is seek counseling from your pastor/rabbi/priest as to the will of God.

babygirl85
Feb 25, 2009, 10:54 AM
No one can tell you what is right for you in this regard. God did keep certain women in the Bible barren for a variety of reasons. Have you been seeking Gods will in this area for your life. Maybe it is Gods will for you to adopt? I don't really know. One one hand i can understand how you could believe that it is wrong. On the other hand God wants us to be happy, prosper and multiply. On the other hand attempting to change your body could be going against Gods will for your life. All I can say is seek counseling from your pastor/rabbi/priest as to the will of God.



That's the thing that tears me. All of the "on the other hands" that exist. God and I speak on a daily basis constantly. I asked Him to give me a sign about whether I'm doing what He wants me to be doing. I kind of took the fact that I couldn't take my pill the other day as a maybe. I remembered, I just couldn't bring myself to fill a glass with water and go get it out of the drawer and take it every time I walked into the kitchen. And in my own honest opinion, I don't believe that a pastor could really direct me correctly in this matter only because there are some things in life that a person has to experience before telling you if it's right or wrong. I just don't think I'll get a fair assessment from my pastor because we don't share this experience. It took me 5 years to get to the point where I could say, "hey, i need help getting pregnant my wait and see isn't working." I had to wait for embarrassment to subside before I sought help and now I'm just thinking maybe waiting on God was the best thing for ME. Sorry this is so long I'm just hashing stuff out. And thanks for your input I really appreciate it.

450donn
Feb 25, 2009, 11:04 AM
Might I suggest that you read this;
Letting Go of Worry and Anxiety
By Pam Vredevelt
I know this woman and she has gone through it all. Loss of an unborn child, to one born with Downs syndrome. Maybe her experiences can give you some incite or guidance.

sndbay
Feb 25, 2009, 01:19 PM
I couldn't even take my last pill the other day. I hope i made it clear enough to understand. Thoughts?

Babygirl85,

I feel that we can't always give answers that help. One reason being because it is hard to reason why you have within your mind told your heart that this can't or shouldn't be done.

We sometimes struggle with the actually outcome of what will happen to our lives from something that doesn't come easy. On the otherhand, sometimes fear of the process failing can lead us to sabotage ourselves by our own actions.

In any case, I feel doctors have been given the gift of healing or medical assistance which can be help to us through life, in a world of certain sorrows.

And whatever I attempt in life, I find trying it at least three times is important. If in those three attempts things don't change, then I feel it wasn't meant to be.

On the other hand, praying to God and asking Him to bless you in being all He created you to be, would always be heard in heaven. Just understand that it is His will to be, and perhaps you are intended to serve God in some other way. I believe this should include both parents.

Question---> Just how many pills have you already taken?

Perhaps God is saying you have taken enough... I hope you can see why it is difficult for anyone here to answer ...

jakester
Feb 25, 2009, 02:21 PM
that's the thing that tears me. all of the "on the other hands" that exist. God and i speak on a daily basis constantly. I asked Him to give me a sign about whether I'm doing what He wants me to be doing. I kind of took the fact that i couldn't take my pill the other day as a maybe. I remembered, i just couldn't bring myself to fill a glass with water and go get it out of the drawer and take it everytime i walked into the kitchen. And in my own honest opinion, i don't believe that a pastor could really direct me correctly in this matter only because there are some things in life that a person has to experience before telling you if it's right or wrong. I just don't think i'll get a fair assessment from my pastor because we don't share this experience. it took me 5 years to get to the point where i could say, "hey, i need help getting pregnant my wait and see isn't working." i had to wait for embarrassment to subside before i sought help and now im just thinking maybe waiting on God was the best thing for ME. sorry this is so long im just hashing stuff out. and thanks for your input i really appreciate it.

Babygirl - from your perspective, what are some of the reasons you have which cause you to doubt whether you are doing the right thing? That's what I am interested in knowing first.

babygirl85
Feb 25, 2009, 02:30 PM
Babygirl85,

I feel that we can't always give answers that help. One reason being because it is hard to reason why you have within your mind told your heart that this can't or shouldn't be done.

We sometimes struggle with the actually outcome of what will happen to our lives from something that doesn't come easy. On the otherhand, sometimes fear of the process failing can lead us to sabotage ourselves by our own actions.

In any case, I feel doctors have been given the gift of healing or medical assistance which can be help to us through life, in a world of certain sorrows.

And whatever I attempt in life, I find trying it at least three times is important. If in those three attempts things don't change, then I feel it wasn't meant to be.

On the other hand, praying to God and asking Him to bless you in being all He created you to be, would always be heard in heaven. Just understand that it is His will to be, and perhaps you are intended to serve God in some other way. I believe this should include both parents.

Question---> Just how many pills have you already taken?

Perhaps God is saying you have taken enough... I hope you can see why it is difficult for anyone here to answer ...



I completely understand why this is hard to answer. I guess I wasn't really seeking anything definitive, just someone else's outlook on the general situation as it may pertain to God. I feel that it's possible that forcing my body to do something that God has obviously made it not to do may be not sinning per se, but turning a blind eye to what he really wants for me. To answer your question, I take 10 pills a month to induce my period, plus pills for ovulation. I'm on my 4th month here and the effects of the pills plus my own conscience is just taking it's toll. Ever since the first time my husband and I walked into the fertility clinic, I felt very conflicted with myself but I had prayed the night before and it seemed that I was taking a step in the right direction. I also feel that if I do stop, I will feel like more of a failure, like I gave up on something I yearned for, and maybe therefore I didn't really want it. Which would be so far from the truth it isn't even funny. But that is how I may feel if I stop. So I suppose I'm just battling with this in my mind. I really do appreciate all of your input.


I'm glad you said this
(On the otherhand, sometimes fear of the process failing can lead us to sabotage ourselves by our own actions.)

I can relate to this. I have thought that maybe that is why I've been feeling this way but it's more like... I'm pissed that I have to force my body, as a woman, to perform the way it should naturally. And I'm irritated that there really are no real answers for why a woman's body sabotages her in this manner. It's a mystery to doctors and that to me is unsettling and unfair, to say the least.

As to why this is in my mind, I was raised as a christian, and when I told my mother about 2 years ago that I don't know what's wrong with me, why I can't conceive, maybe I should see a dr. and as 'gung ho God' as she is, she didn't berate me or anything, but she comforted me in God, saying that I shouldn't allow anyone to prod around. And I agree to a point. But she isn't in my shoes, and that's where the tables flip a little. She has 5 children, so therefore doesn't understand where I'm coming from. Not to mention she was born in 1945, so in my opinion maybe she just doesn't understand that my body isn't going to just correct itself unless God does intervene. But then again, I believe that as well, except that I also believe that maybe I need to help myself as well with the help of modern medicine... im so confused.

But again, I do appreciate all of your answers and input. Now it's just me my husband and God and hoping for the best. Thanks again

adam7gur
Feb 26, 2009, 12:26 AM
Man and woman in a marriage are no longer two,but one.
Malachi 2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed.
God's will in every blessed by God marriage is a godly seed.
All through the bible , not having a child is a curse.Do not compromise, do not accept no man's opinion that is against God's law.Feel the agony of those women in the bible till they were blessed with a child.Not being able to take the pill is NO SIGN. When you have the Word of God , that is the best sign you can have.The Word is clear and beyond doubt.A marriage should be blessed with a child from Adam and Eve till the end!

sndbay
Feb 26, 2009, 05:17 AM
.A marriage should be blessed with a child from Adam and Eve till the end!

I prey that both parents can be blessed by God with a child of His Will..

But your last statement, a child blessed from Adam and Eve would be Christ's hertiage. Man was created on the sixth man.. But this would be a different thread....

adam7gur
Feb 26, 2009, 11:02 PM
I mean , from the first married couple(Adam and Eve),till the end,God's will is to bless those couples with a child!If that sounded otherwise I apologize for my English!