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xMaverickx
Feb 10, 2009, 06:09 AM
All right so I was dating this girl for a couple weeks through long distance. She was about 6 hours away from me. Before we started to date we had been talking for about a month and a half. The reason we broke up is because she said she saw a new side of me that she didn't like. She told me I had mood swings and that I had loose baggage. She also claimed that she felt like she was walking on eggshells around and that she couldn't really express herself to me cause she didn't know how I would react to it. I didn't deny any of these allegations. After we broke up we both came to the conclusion that we both care each other a great deal and we both want to see this relationship work out. She also wants to be friends for now. Yesterday and the day before I tried asking her if she would like to be more than friends but less than official. She said no. She wants me to open up to her as a friend and she also wants me to fix my problems before she wants to get involved with me. Here is the catch... she said that since we are single now, if someone were to come along then we shouldn't deny giving something a chance there. I asked her if she was interested in anyone else and she said no and I said the same thing. I care about this girl a lot and I would really like to see this relationship work out, how should I approach this situation?
Ber Rabbit
Feb 10, 2009, 06:15 AM
Open up to her, be a friend first. Communication IS the key to a good relationship and instead of dumping you she's given you a chance to develop your communication skills and solve some issues that bother her.
This is a very young relationship and she's given you the information you need to have a chance at letting it grow, that's actually pretty rare.
If one of you finds someone else then discuss the situation and decide if you want to date others. Discussion is going to be key. Follow her suggestions and see where it goes. You're going to gain insight into making a relationship work whether the two of you end up dating or not.
Ber
dimonthecoast
Feb 10, 2009, 08:54 AM
Sounds like she was very honest in her concerns and if she conveyed them to you in a caring manner, then it's time for a self evaluation. I agree with Ber Rabbit, give her a chance to be a real friend and don't push a romantic relationship. As you grow and learn, she will either be drawn to you or you will have a friend for life (in which case you will be in a better position to have a more healthy relationship with someone else.)
Frustration can also make us seem "moody." That may be a good place to start.
Patience grasshopper
NeedKarma
Feb 10, 2009, 09:00 AM
She may have a point: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/some-guidance-267013.html
You need to get comfortable with yourself and your life before you can be with someone else.
artlady
Feb 10, 2009, 09:04 AM
Whatever it is she wants you to change is very vague.
Many people have baggage,what does she expect you to do about it?
Some people are moody,that is just a personality trait,what does she want you to do ?
She wants you to change but has not given you specifics.And she still wants to keep the door open for others.
Maybe she is the one with the problem,after all,she is making these demands and you are getting a* maybe I will be there when you have improved yourself* according to her standards.
What do you want from the relationship and can you change these unacceptable behaviors?
That's the bottom line.
xMaverickx
Feb 10, 2009, 10:29 AM
Sounds like she was very honest in her concerns and if she conveyed them to you in a caring manner, then it's time for a self evaluation. I agree with Ber Rabbit, give her a chance to be a real friend and don't push a romantic relationship. As you grow and learn, she will either be drawn to you or you will have a friend for life (in which case you will be in a better position to have a more healthy relationship with someone else.)
Frustration can also make us seem "moody." That may be a good place to start.
Patience grasshopper
I have to agree with you 100%. I think discussion is the key and the last I want to do is be pushy about it. Which, I will admit I have been a little bit, but I have backed off. And Ber Rabbit, you are very right, this is indeed a rare occurrence and I am fortunate to have a chance at improving upon it and I'm looking forward to see what happens. She has told me that she wants to be friends and I don't have a problem with that. There is only one thing I am concerned about and that is the fact that she might end up finding someone else and then at the point I will have wasted time and energy on her. That's my dilemma right now and also the long distance doesn't help much either. That's what I have been going over in my head.
Ber Rabbit
Feb 10, 2009, 10:35 AM
There is only one thing I am concerned about and that is the fact that she might end up finding someone else and then at the point I will have wasted time and energy on her. That's my dilemma right now and also the long distance doesn't help much either. That's what I have been going over in my head.
Don't think of it as wasted time and energy on her, think of it as invested time and energy in yourself. Developing your communication skills in this relationship will leave you that much farther ahead in your next one if this one doesn't work out. Think of it as relationship school rather than a love carnival where she is a prize to be won ;)
Best of luck to you!
Ber
xMaverickx
Feb 10, 2009, 10:46 AM
Don't think of it as wasted time and energy on her, think of it as invested time and energy in yourself. Developing your communication skills in this relationship will leave you that much farther ahead in your next one if this one doesn't work out. Think of it as relationship school rather than a love carnival where she is a prize to be won ;)
Best of luck to you!
Ber
Good way to look at it... so either way it's a win, win situation for me... thanks for your help, I will definitely be taking your advice
xMaverickx
Feb 10, 2009, 03:17 PM
Open up to her, be a friend first. Communication IS the key to a good relationship and instead of dumping you she's given you a chance to develop your communication skills and solve some issues that bother her.
This is a very young relationship and she's given you the information you need to have a chance at letting it grow, that's actually pretty rare.
If one of you finds someone else then discuss the situation and decide if you want to date others. Discussion is going to be key. Follow her suggestions and see where it goes. You're going to gain insight into making a relationship work whether the two of you end up dating or not.
Ber
I have one more question and it may sound stupid, but I have to ask. I know you said communication is key, I couldn't agree more. As of right now, the last thing I want to do is smother her or pressure her into constantly talking. So, what I wondering is, how often do you think I should speak to her? Every day? Every couple days? I know that sounds like a dumb question but I'm trying to do it right this time around.
Ber Rabbit
Feb 11, 2009, 11:36 AM
Every couple of days is probably fine for now. Leave some time between calls to have experiences to share as well as talking about deeper stuff. She seems really willing to communicate so asking her how often she would like you to call would be a good subject for you to talk about with her.
Ber
dimonthecoast
Feb 11, 2009, 01:59 PM
I have one more question and it may sound stupid, but I have to ask. I know you said communication is key, I couldn't agree more. As of right now, the last thing I want to do is smother her or pressure her into constantly talking. So, what I wondering is, how often do you think I should speak to her? Every day? Every couple days? I know that sounds like a dumb question but I'm trying to do it right this time around.
Give her a few days in between calls - that gives you a chance to focus on your life. What are your hobbies, what do you like to do? (Go on a hike and enjoy creation. Buy a cook book and learn to master lasagna. Go wine tasting and build a collection.) If you sense she's impatient or doesn't have time to talk, then extend the time for the next call. You are more interesting when you HAVE other interests. Also, let the conversation develop naturally about any serious issues, but don't corner her. The main key is not to be anxious. And if she mentions another person, it's okay to let her know you're disappointed, but "hey, if it wasn't meant to be then I'll be fine and I hope he's good to you." If that closes the door, then it closes it with good feelings (which you will NEVER regret). If you blow up or get significantly upset, then you'll feel bad/guilty later. Pain and loss are a part of life, how we deal with it is what shapes us as people.
xMaverickx
Feb 13, 2009, 07:39 PM
Give her a few days in between calls - that gives you a chance to focus on your life. What are your hobbies, what do you like to do? (Go on a hike and enjoy creation. Buy a cook book and learn to master lasagna. Go wine tasting and build a collection.) If you sense she's impatient or doesn't have time to talk, then extend the time for the next call. You are more interesting when you HAVE other interests. Also, let the conversation develop naturally about any serious issues, but don't corner her. The main key is not to be anxious. And if she mentions another person, it's okay to let her know you're disappointed, but "hey, if it wasn't meant to be then I'll be fine and I hope he's good to you." If that closes the door, then it closes it with good feelings (which you will NEVER regret). If you blow up or get significantly upset, then you'll feel bad/guilty later. Pain and loss are a part of life, how we deal with it is what shapes us as people.
I have been doing all of these things... giving her space and doing my own thing. So far, it has proved very successful. She told just yesterday that we are getting along better than we did when we are dating and she feels like she can talk to me and open up. I didn't really know how to take that comment. I was wondering whether she was thinking that we are better off as friends or that she sees a change in me and that we are moving in a positive direction. I don't know. And another thing, we are eachothers valentine, I sent her a nice card with a picture of us and I don't think she made an effort what-so-ever to do anything for me. I'm thinking to myself... what the hell? You know what I mean? To tell you the truth, that hurts, but nothing I can do about that.
dimonthecoast
Feb 15, 2009, 10:58 AM
I have been doing all of these things...giving her space and doing my own thing. So far, it has proved very successful. She told just yesterday that we are getting along better than we did when we are dating and she feels like she can talk to me and open up. I didn't really know how to take that comment. I was wondering whether she was thinking that we are better off as friends or that she sees a change in me and that we are moving in a positive direction. I dont know. And another thing, we are eachothers valentine, I sent her a nice card with a picture of us and I dont think she made an effort what-so-ever to do anything for me. I'm thinking to myself....what the hell? You know what I mean? To tell you the truth, that hurts, but nothing I can do about that.
You are still looking for things out of her. You are putting too much effort into it. RELAX. When you don't expect things, you are more comfortable with her and yourself. I know it's hard to shift gears from romantic to platonic, but it appears to be the direction you may need to go in for awhile. If your ultimate goal is to get her back and not grow as a person, then you may surely fail. Everyone who has responded to you Maverick wants to see you succeed, first with yourself, then a wonderful girl. Guys view things from the "fix it" perspective. If there is something wrong, then do "blank" and the problem is fixed. Girls view things from a relational perspective, things ebb and flow, conversations or just spending time together. It's all about the relationship, not just with each other, but with life in general. When you're hanging out with your friends, you don't (or shouldn't) expect a lot out of them, you just do stuff or enjoy eachothers company. People gravitate to those who want to give (ie do for others, please don't read door mat, read friend). You have stuff in common. Good fulfilling relationships take time to build. A skyscraper has a very deep and solid foundation and took years to build, beach houses built on sand in a few months washed away in Katrina.
If it's too difficult for you right now - you may have to detach for awhile.. . Time and distance gives us a clearer perspective. There may be something else going on that she's not sharing with you (let her bring it up), but no matter what happens this is a learning and growing experience - you don't say how old you are, but my guess is you're younger than those who have responded to you - learn from our mistakes and experience.
All the best
N0help4u
Feb 15, 2009, 12:32 PM
She wants you to change the things she sees as a problem but in the meantime she doesn't want to be waiting around indefinitely to see IF things change. So why don't you concentrate more on working out what is hindering your relationship from moving on and then see where it goes. The more you push her for a relationship the more she is going to feel that it isn't worth it. She wants to see actions. So work on yourself and let her see the changes and see if it goes anywhere then.
Ber Rabbit
Feb 17, 2009, 07:46 AM
I have been doing all of these things...giving her space and doing my own thing. So far, it has proved very successful. She told just yesterday that we are getting along better than we did when we are dating and she feels like she can talk to me and open up. I didn't really know how to take that comment. I was wondering whether she was thinking that we are better off as friends or that she sees a change in me and that we are moving in a positive direction. I dont know.
You are over-analyzing. She's feeling more comfortable with you and that's a good thing so continue with what you're doing. Learn to accept a compliment instead of looking for hidden meanings ;)
And another thing, we are eachothers valentine, I sent her a nice card with a picture of us and I dont think she made an effort what-so-ever to do anything for me. I'm thinking to myself....what the hell? You know what I mean? To tell you the truth, that hurts, but nothing I can do about that.
It hurts because you're expecting something of her in return for things you've done, you're trying to "win the prize" again.
Ber
xMaverickx
Feb 19, 2009, 10:08 AM
OK here is update on the everything... I spoke to her last night about a couple things. It seems like every time we start talking it leads to a serious discussion about us. And of course last night it lead to one and by the end of the conversation she said she was sick of talking about serious things and it "drained" her. She told me that she doesn't really even care if I were to hook up with another girl, but she would feel a little weird about it. Last week I had been pushy about us getting back together and I know that was a mistake. She also told me last night that because of that it had completely turned her off and she has lost some feelings for me. Lately, it seems like she doesn't even want to talk to me, every time we text I get one or 2 word responses and stuff along those lines. She also said last night that she isn't even sure if she wants to pursue this relationship anymore, I was kind of hurt. But, she still would like to hang out over spring break. I literally was just texting her this morning and I told her that I agreed and I think we should talk casually and have fun. So, tonight I'm going to talk to her. Im not really even sure what to do, let this crap go or continue to see what happens.
dimonthecoast
Feb 19, 2009, 10:39 AM
ok here is update on the everything....I spoke to her last night about a couple things. It seems like everytime we start talking it leads to a serious discussion about us. And of course last night it lead to one and by the end of the conversation she said she was sick of talking about serious things and it "drained" her. She told me that she doesnt really even care if I were to hook up with another girl, but she would feel a little weird about it. Last week I had been pushy about us getting back together and I know that was a mistake. She also told me last night that because of that it had completely turned her off and she has lost some feelings for me. Lately, it seems like she doesnt even wanna talk to me, everytime we text i get one or 2 word responses and stuff along those lines. She also said last night that she isnt even sure if she wants to pursue this relationship anymore, I was kind of hurt. But, she still would like to hang out over spring break. I literally was just texting her this morning and I told her that I agreed and I think we should talk casually and have fun. So, tonight I'm going to talk to her. Im not really even sure what to do, let this crap go or continue to see what happens.
It leads to a serious discussion about "us" because you are pushing. It's draining her because she's not getting her point across. That may or may not be her fault depending on how clear she's being. I hate to say this hon, but she's moving on emotionally and hasn't reached the final "good bye" yet. She may have thrown you a "bone" for spring break because she hasn't reached that point yet.
Let it go and walk away while you still have some dignity and she still has some fond feelings for you. You never know what may happen in the future if you leave on that note. If she gets totally turned off to you and shuts the door, there never will be a future possibility.
As most of us have said before - learn from this, look at why you are trying to hang on to this girl so hard.
xMaverickx
Feb 19, 2009, 10:51 AM
It leads to a serious discussion about "us" because you are pushing. It's draining her because she's not getting her point across. That may or may not be her fault depending on how clear she's being. I hate to say this hon, but she's moving on emotionally and hasn't reached the final "good bye" yet. She may have thrown you a "bone" for spring break because she hasn't reached that point yet.
Let it go and walk away while you still have some dignity and she still has some fond feelings for you. You never know what may happen in the future if you leave on that note. If she gets totally turned off to you and shuts the door, there never will be a future possibility.
As most of us have said before - learn from this, look at why you are trying to hang on to this girl so hard.
Yea I think your right, its gotten to the point where we are both asking ourselves, "whats the point?" But something is making us both hold on for some reason. As for that final goodbye, I don't want it to get to the point, but perhaps it will and if it does then that's OK. I guess I will continue to see what happens and remain her friend.
dimonthecoast
Feb 22, 2009, 02:59 PM
Sometimes we're afraid to let go because we don't want to be alone (fear, desparation) and we'd be jealous if the other met someone. (You're always more attractive when someone else wants you).
xMaverickx
Feb 26, 2009, 02:40 PM
Sometimes we're afraid to let go because we don't want to be alone (fear, desparation) and we'd be jealous if the other met someone. (You're always more attractive when someone else wants you).
I know exactly what you mean and I do somewhat feel afraid and scared. Relationships are so complex. And I think your so right, you are more attractive when someone else wants you... do you have any tips in helping me with that?
dimonthecoast
Feb 26, 2009, 07:05 PM
Now it sounds like you want to play games.. .
Relationships are only as complicated as you allow them to become. For many of my past relationships, things were always complicated and chaotic. In the end, the guy would break up with me and I would struggle with myself worth. Then one day I figured I couldn't continue to be a "victim." What was it in me (flaw/need, etc) that attracted guys who were not good for me? I always saw "red flags" but felt that I would give them a chance instead of going with my first instinct. I took some time off from dating, did a lot of self evaluation, reconnected to God and many things changed. I no longer felt needy or desperate because I was truly happy with myself. I had interests and things that occupied my time and when I was alone, I reconnected with my love for reading. It was during that time, that I met an amazing man. There were NO red flags and it things were easy, not perfect, but easy.
You want the good relationship, but you have to be willing to do the groundwork first. Take a page from my book and do it now while you are young. Trust me, you will thank me later.
Jo
P. S. You are never more alone than when you are with the wrong person.
xMaverickx
Feb 26, 2009, 09:19 PM
Now it sounds like you want to play games . . .
Relationships are only as complicated as you allow them to become. For many of my past relationships, things were always complicated and chaotic. In the end, the guy would break up with me and I would struggle with my self worth. Then one day I figured I couldn't continue to be a "victim." What was it in me (flaw/need, etc) that attracted guys who were not good for me? I always saw "red flags" but felt that I would give them a chance instead of going with my first instinct. I took some time off from dating, did a lot of self evaluation, reconnected to God and many things changed. I no longer felt needy or desperate because I was truly happy with myself. I had interests and things that occupied my time and when I was alone, I reconnected with my love for reading. It was during that time, that I met an amazing man. There were NO red flags and it things were easy, not perfect, but easy.
You want the good relationship, but you have to be willing to do the groundwork first. Take a page from my book and do it now while you are young. Trust me, you will thank me later.
Jo
P. S. You are never more alone than when you are with the wrong person.
Now your reading my mind lol. I didn't realize until you just said it, in a sense, I am playing games. Wow, your so so right. I have got to establish myself. Over the last couple weeks I have done a lot of self evaluation and I have noticed a lot of improvements. Im happier a lot more, I have more energy and Im motivated when it comes to my studies. By the way Im 19 years old. And to be honest, my "gut feeling" has been telling me that we are not right for each other and it won't work out. Funny how things always turn out. And For once in my life, things are clear now. I know exactly what I have to do, thank you for your help.
dimonthecoast
Feb 27, 2009, 04:00 PM
I'm glad I was able to help. Your gut will never steer you wrong, even if it's something you don't want to do.. .
At 19 you will date a lot of girls before you meet the "one" (and you are both ready for eachother). Don't put so much pressure on yourself or them. Enjoy this time of your life and know that life is about the journey, and not the destination.
I was glad to hear that you want your focus to be school and getting established.
Contact me anytime!
xMaverickx
Mar 19, 2009, 03:21 PM
I'm glad I was able to help. Your gut will never steer you wrong, even if it's something you don't want to do . . .
At 19 you will date a lot of girls before you meet the "one" (and you are both ready for eachother). Don't put so much pressure on yourself or them. Enjoy this time of your life and know that life is about the journey, and not the destination.
I was glad to hear that you want your focus to be school and getting established.
Contact me anytime!
Hey I just wanted to give you an update on what is happening. You and everyone else were a 100% right and "my gut feeling" was correct as well lol. Last week was her spring break and we had planned on getting together. She went back up to school last Sunday. I text her a week ago last Tuesday telling her to give me a call when she was free so we could hang out. So I waited and waited and never got a call from her and before I knew it she was already back in Tallahassee. She never even text, called, or even said goodbye before she left. I never saw her. I was hurt, but then something came over me and I was just like screw it, Im not going to care about someone who doesn't care about me. So... I guess that's it then.
dimonthecoast
Mar 20, 2009, 04:58 AM
I'm sorry that you were hurt, but don't hold hate or resentment in your heart. That seed grows into a really ugly plant that's difficult to uproot later. Try to forgive her and let it go. No, you do NOT have to tell her that. Just don't contact her in anyway. She'll eventually contact you and make light of the fact that you two "lost touch." Tell her you're sorry too, but you've moved on. Whatever you do, don't allow anyone to have that kind of control over your life. The only person you can change or have any "control" over is yourself. This is a good (although painful) learning experience. It can help you grow and mature, or it can keep you emotionally stunted. Once you do forgive and let it go, I promise you, you will feel a "release" in your spirit that was keeping you locked up. There is an attractiveness to someone who walks in freedom.
P. S. The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy
xMaverickx
Mar 20, 2009, 09:50 AM
I'm sorry that you were hurt, but don't hold hate or resentment in your heart. That seed grows into a really ugly plant that's difficult to uproot later. Try to forgive her and let it go. No, you do NOT have to tell her that. Just don't contact her in anyway. She'll eventually contact you and make light of the fact that you two "lost touch." Tell her you're sorry too, but you've moved on. Whatever you do, don't allow anyone to have that kind of control over your life. The only person you can change or have any "control" over is yourself. This is a good (although painful) learning experience. It can help you grow and mature, or it can keep you emotionally stunted. Once you do forgive and let it go, I promise you, you will feel a "release" in your spirit that was keeping you locked up. There is an attractiveness to someone who walks in freedom.
P. S. The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy
I don't hold any resentment towards her, I understand why she did what she did. I knew from the beginning that she was a little worried about seeing me because of the stuff I put on her. The one thing that upset me the most was the fact that she didn't even have the common courtesy to say she didn't want to hang out or anything of that nature. She straight up ignored me all together, which I think is rude. And I was not planning on contacting her in anyway, although it is hard because I think about her a lot. You said she will eventually contact me, part of me doesn't believe that and another part of me could care less if she ever did call me again and another part of me hopes this is true but I have moved on and I'm now living my life here where I am and not trying to live it with someone far away.
dimonthecoast
Mar 20, 2009, 05:13 PM
She didn't contact you most probably because she wasn't mature enough to be honest, so she avoided. Don't take it too personally - it happens a lot at ALL ages. But now you know that if you're ever in her position and don't want to hang out with someone, you know to be honest (be kind).
Yes, I believe she will eventually contact you. Don't you want to be WAY over her and WAY down the road when that happens? You two may even one day end up good friends and laughing about this. Time is the only cure for heartache. Don't let someone talk you into another relationship too soon. I've met many men who are on their 4th marriages because they go from one chick to another and they've done that their whole lives. It's pretty sad.
I am heartened to see the change and growth in you in this very short time frame.
All the best
xMaverickx
Mar 22, 2009, 06:49 AM
She didn't contact you most probably because she wasn't mature enough to be honest, so she avoided. Don't take it too personally - it happens alot at ALL ages. But now you know that if you're ever in her position and don't want to hang out with someone, you know to be honest (be kind).
Yes, I believe she will eventually contact you. Don't you want to be WAY over her and WAY down the road when that happens? You two may even one day end up good friends and laughing about this. Time is the only cure for heartache. Don't let someone talk you into another relationship too soon. I've met many men who are on their 4th marriages because they go from one chick to another and they've done that their whole lives. It's pretty sad.
I am heartened to see the change and growth in you in this very short time frame.
All the best
Ya I would have too once again agree with you. I hope one day we can became friends because I know deep down she is a good person. But, anyway its not about her anymore and I got to live my life. But, if anything thing happens, I will keep you updated.
xMaverickx
Apr 20, 2009, 06:18 PM
She didn't contact you most probably because she wasn't mature enough to be honest, so she avoided. Don't take it too personally - it happens alot at ALL ages. But now you know that if you're ever in her position and don't want to hang out with someone, you know to be honest (be kind).
Yes, I believe she will eventually contact you. Don't you want to be WAY over her and WAY down the road when that happens? You two may even one day end up good friends and laughing about this. Time is the only cure for heartache. Don't let someone talk you into another relationship too soon. I've met many men who are on their 4th marriages because they go from one chick to another and they've done that their whole lives. It's pretty sad.
I am heartened to see the change and growth in you in this very short time frame.
All the best
Ok so she contacted me the other day via Facebook. I will admit I was a little surprised to hear from her. She basically wanted to tell me that she thought it wouldn't be a good idea to see me over spring break, I agreed. And we both came to an agreement that it was best for both of us to not see each other. We had two conversations and it went very smoothly, like nothing ever happened. I have been seeing a Psychologist lately (past two months) and I told her about how I am doing and how I am making vast improvements in my life. She was extremely happy to hear everything and I was also really happy to hear that she is doing fine as well. We are both still single, but not looking for anything (spoke to her friend about that). And I have to admit, I want her in my life, now what?
dimonthecoast
Apr 21, 2009, 07:15 AM
Okay, you "both came to an agreement . . . that it was best not to see eachother." So good so far. Yet you want her in your life. You know what I think this is a case of? You want what you can't have. Don't feel bad, that happens with all people in all age groups. Maturity comes when you recognize it. True love respects the individual person and places the good of that person above all else. You've both agreed that the greater good is to not be in eachother's lives (You're seeing a professional to help you along the way, good also, but I don't know that I would have shared that with her.) I know it's hard to separate feelings and emotions from what's best. You two had a good conversation and it left you feeling really good. Feeling really good is something that tends to open that "dream door." You dream about being with her, moving from where you are into a closer relationship and etc, etc, etc. Those dreams also make you feel really good, which propels that fantasy of the two of you being together. Dreams are good in that they give you something to reach for, however THIS dream is not a good thing. There are clearly issues you both need to overcome and you cannot do it honestly if your goal is to "obtain" her. Can you "have her in your life" as a friend only if she's seeing someone else? If the answer is no, then you need to re-evaluate your what your real goals are.
Then I have to ask, if it wasn't a good idea to see you over spring break, why didn't she just be honest with you? I can also give you a pretty good guess as to why she's contacted you now (and remember I predicted it because I know how women think). She hadn't heard from you and wondered if you had gone on with YOUR life (ie another gal). In other words, "she wanted what she couldn't have." Now that doesn't necessarily mean that she would have chased you if you had a girlfriend, but one wonders if she would have stepped up her contact. Do you remember when I told you that you're more attractive when someone else is interested in you? Of course, that would be playing games and that certainly wouldn't help you grow. So please don't use that to manipulate the situation.
My advice? Let her do the contacting. Keep your responses light, nothing heavy. If she asks about your sessions, tell her things are going well, but you'd prefer not to talk about it (that is very personal and I don't know that you should put it on face book for her or anyone else to use against you later.) Chat about school and classes, BUT NOTHING HEAVY!! You two are so very young - you BOTH will have many people in your lives over the years and don't you want to meet and date many girls in your life so you will know the "One" when you meet her? I promise you, there WILL be many others - patience grasshopper.
Let me know when you're ready to hear about what the "One" will do and be in your life.
Jo
xMaverickx
Apr 21, 2009, 08:32 AM
Yea that's very interesting on what you have to say. I found out the only reason she contacted me is because I asked her/my friend why she didn't contact me over spring break and her friend ended up telling her to talk to me about it. And regarding the whole psychologist situation, she has known about this since I first started so I didn't bring it up for the first time. Honestly, I don't why she didn't just contact me over spring break, I think she was immature and wanted to take the easy way out so it wouldn't stress her out. That is a very common thing today so it isn't a big deal. As for the conversations, she has been doing the contacting and I have kept it very light, nothing heavy what-so-ever. I have been actually seeing a couple of girls lately and she even asked me about it, because of some pictures she saw on Facebook. I am hanging out with three right now, nothing anywhere near serious, but I'm having fun. But it seems, every time I am with one of them, I think about her. She is on my mind a lot. Ever since I have talked to her last week, I have been constantly thinking about her, but no depressing thoughts. I'm not sad over the situation, I just have feelings for her and the feelings that I have are much stronger than I thought they were before. When we talk I can't help but have a huge smile on my face and I often wonder what she thinks about me. When we first started dating we always talked about how we both thought we had massive potential, I just had issues to work out. So far, most of my issues are being worked out tremendously. I don't want to chase after her, because 1. that's a huge turnoff and 2. I'm not the type to do that anyway. I'm just not sure whether to let this situation go or not.
I wish
Apr 21, 2009, 12:48 PM
I know I'm late to give advice, but I wanted to put my 2 cents.
She told me I had mood swings and that I had loose baggage. She also claimed that she felt like she was walking on eggshells around and that she couldnt really express herself to me cause she didnt know how I would react to it.
I see in the updates that you won't really have a chance with this girl. However, she did point something out about you.
I see that you gave her space. But that's not the only thing you had to do. There are obviously certain aspects about your personality that will affect your interaction with this girl and other girls in the future.
I think you should spend some time working on these aspects, because nor matter how much space you give a girl, if you come back the same person and she or another girl still points all those things about you, you won't make any progress.
That being said, I understand long distance can be tough and you have to be a bit pushier to get things out. Cause you're not around so you can't see what's going on. So unless you can fix this part about your personality, maybe long distance is not the best type of relationship for you just yet.
dimonthecoast
Apr 21, 2009, 07:35 PM
Yea that's very interesting on what you have to say. I found out the only reason she contacted me is because I asked her/my friend why she didn't contact me over spring break and her friend ended up telling her to talk to me about it. And regarding the whole psychologist situation, she has known about this since I first started so I didn't bring it up for the first time. Honestly, I don't why she didn't just contact me over spring break, I think she was immature and wanted to take the easy way out so it wouldn't stress her out. That is a very common thing today so it isn't a big deal. As for the conversations, she has been doing the contacting and I have kept it very light, nothing heavy what-so-ever. I have been actually seeing a couple of girls lately and she even asked me about it, because of some pictures she saw on facebook. I am hanging out with three right now, nothing anywhere near serious, but I'm having fun. But it seems, every time I am with one of them, I think about her. She is on my mind a lot. Ever since I have talked to her last week, I have been constantly thinking about her, but no depressing thoughts. I'm not sad over the situation, I just have feelings for her and the feelings that I have are much stronger than I thought they were before. When we talk I can't help but have a huge smile on my face and I often wonder what she thinks about me. When we first started dating we always talked about how we both thought we had massive potential, I just had issues to work out. So far, most of my issues are being worked out tremendously. I don't want to chase after her, because 1. thats a huge turnoff and 2. I'm not the type to do that anyway. I'm just not sure whether to let this situation go or not.
The big smile comes because you really like her and when you converse with her it shows on your face. You also think about her when you're with other girls because you still have an attachment. Detachment comes with time.. . When she pops into your mind, try to find something else to occupy it. It's not a matter of shutting her out of your life, it's a matter of not allowing her to become an obsession. I think you're doing fine, keep seeing the professional, keep hanging out with your new friends and continue to resist the urge to make it more with her. You're growing up honey - we call it maturity. What you're going through is all part of the "process."
All the best.
annybaby84
Apr 22, 2009, 11:36 PM
I have one more question and it may sound stupid, but I have to ask. I know you said communication is key, I couldn't agree more. As of right now, the last thing I want to do is smother her or pressure her into constantly talking. So, what I wondering is, how often do you think I should speak to her? Every day? Every couple days? I know that sounds like a dumb question but I'm trying to do it right this time around.
Ho often do you think you should speak to her?
As often as someone who would talk to you and you don't think the amount of that is too annoying... Don't worry too much for that, be casual about it!