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KimberlyM66
Feb 8, 2009, 09:16 PM
I work with an elderly gentleman who was admitted into the hospital bleeding from his rectum.He has a bleeding ulcer and is in intensive care but they won't do surgery because of his age and how tiny he is.They keep giving him transfusions and medication to help stop the bleeding.I'm concerned and was wondering if this might kill him

tickle
Feb 9, 2009, 06:23 AM
Peptic ulcer bleeding is a frequent and dramatic event with both a high mortality rate and a substantial cost for healthcare systems worldwide. It has been found that age is an independent predisposing factor for gastrointestinal bleeding, with the risk increasing significantly in individuals aged>65 years and increasing further in those aged>75 years. Indeed, bleeding incidence and mortality are distinctly higher in elderly patients

KISS
Feb 9, 2009, 07:55 AM
Bleeding ulcers can be treatable and preventable. My mom has diverticulitus and was hospitalized twice for bleeding ulcers with the drugs Celbrex and Bextra.

So, trick is to avoid meds, vitamins that thin the blood like large doseages of asperin and not taking itamin E.

Then you need to avoid and or limit all small seeds.

tickle
Feb 9, 2009, 10:03 AM
Hi, Keep, problem is that some meds can't be avoided such as meds for high and low blood pressure, diabetes, etc. and a low dosage of aspirin, 81 mg, rarely does any harm at all. I have been on that dosage for years and have never had a stomach upset. Of course, blood thinners such as Warfarin, which is the hard line blood thinner and necessary for people with enlarged vein thrombrosis, can't be avoided.

I do agree with you somewhat, but some meds can't be avoided to maintain quality of life and I don't believe in in subing herbs and alternative medicines to take their place. I have seen too many elderly people switching over to alternative medications with an holistic view (mind you, some of this is good) that have done themselves irreparable harm by doing so.

Ms tickle

KISS
Feb 9, 2009, 10:38 AM
Te meds and vitamin E that were eliminated ,by her doctor, helped my mom (root cause of the bleeding ulcers) who has severe osteoarthritus and degenerative arthritus of the spine. Include insulin dependent diabetes and high blood pressure. She, at one time was taking a lot of aspirin. Now it's Vicodin to about 6 tablets/day, Soma and an Occasionaly Lidoderm for this condition.

tickle
Feb 9, 2009, 02:33 PM
I am glad the doctor saw his way to eliminate the meds. I find in most cases, clients are taking far too much because meds are added on from time to time, with none being removed and in some cases conflict with something already being taken. I stress to my clients that when the doctor is reviewing meds, you must insist that he do a complete check to see if some can be eliminated. That is a big job for a doctor to sit down and review l5 meds to see if something can be discarded. A pharmacy can't do that.

Thank god for blister packs which makes it necessary to take a good overview of all meds necessary to treat all afflictions.