Hello wingers of all persuasions,

When the left didn't go along with the dufus about Iraq, Gitmo, or rendition and stuff, they were called traitors and UN patriotic...

So, why aren't the right wingers UN patriotic and traitors when THEY don't go along with Obama's recovery program, as NONE of them have??

Poor, poor Republicans. How come you're so one way?

excon

Excellent point !

Hello sarnian:

Where is their own patriotism now that economic terror is inflicting far more harm on the country than Saddam Hussein's nonexistent W.M.D.?

You know, I've mentioned several times here on these pages, that the reason the left doesn't accuse the right of UN patriotic behavior, is because the left wingers are MUCH better people than the righty's are.

They're better looking too.

excon

Hello wingers of all persuasions,

When the left didn't go along with the dufus about Iraq, Gitmo, or rendition and stuff, they were called traitors and UN patriotic....

So, why aren't the right wingers UN patriotic and traitors when THEY don't go along with Obama's recovery program, as NONE of them have???

Poor, poor Republicans. How come you're so one way?

excon
Why??
Because it is probably the dumbest of the dumbest ideal to come out of the infertile minds of the far left in the last 50 years that's why!
This is like letting the foxes guard the chicken coop. Why in the world would you want to give a trillion dollars to a bunch of people that have8% approval rating and less than zero chance of actually doing the right thing for the country. This is all about politics and paybacks at the taxpayers expense. But this is like talking to a brick wall, because Excon you and 53.8% of the people in America simply don't get it!

Hello again, 450:

Try to focus. That wasn't the question I asked.

The Democrats didn't like the Bush doctrine any more than you like the economy recovery package.

The question IS, why did the Republicans accuse the Democrats of UNAMERICAN behavior when THEY didn't support Bush...

Are you going to say that NOT supporting Bush WAS Unpatriotic, but NOT supporting Obama is simply smart policy?? I'll bet you would.

It's a question of BEHAVIOR - not policy. And, the Republicans behave badly.

excon

Hello again, 450:

Try to focus. That wasn't the question I asked.

The Democrats didn't like the Bush doctrine any more than you like the economy recovery package.

The question IS, why did the Republicans accuse the Democrats of UNAMERICAN behavior when THEY didn't support Bush....

Are you going to say that NOT supporting Bush WAS Unpatriotic, but NOT supporting Obama is simply smart policy???? I'll bet you would.

It's a question of BEHAVIOR - not policy. And, the Republicans behave badly.

excon

How many times do I have to answer your question?
I SAID,
Because it is probably the dumbest of the dumbest ideal to come out of the infertile minds of the far left in the last 50 years that's why!

Because it is probably the dumbest of the dumbest ideal to come out of the infertile minds of the far left in the last 50 years that's why!No one is referring to the far left, in the same way that there's no point in mentioning what the far right is doing - both are fanatics and fanatics are dangerous.

Where is their own patriotism now that economic terror is inflicting far more harm on the country than Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent W.M.D.????

You know, I've mentioned several times here on these pages, that the reason the left doesn't accuse the right of UN patriotic behavior, is because the left wingers are MUCH better people than the righty's are.

They're better looking too.

excon

Huh? Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Pelosi calls House GOP “unpatriotic” (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/27/video-pelosi-calls-house-gop-unpatriotic/)

Huh? Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Pelosi calls House GOP “unpatriotic” (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/27/video-pelosi-calls-house-gop-unpatriotic/)She said it was unpatriotic for Repubs not to even show up. What's that got to do with excon's point?

Hello again, 450:

Try to focus...It's a question of BEHAVIOR - not policy. And, the Republicans behave badly.

excon

Furthermore, "Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.) on Friday suggested Democratic leaders did not solicit enough input from House Republicans on the financial rescue package…
Asked whether House GOP lawmakers are right to believe they were slighted, Kanjorski replied, “I don’t know that we included them in enough, and that’s always a dangerous thing in politics. Remember, you’re dealing with egomaniacs. We’re all egomaniacs down here.” Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: No, there was no deal on the bailout before McCain got there (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/video-no-there-was-no-deal-on-the-bailout-before-mccain-got-there/)

Nk,
This is what EC says, So, why aren't the right wingers
What is NOT FAR about that?

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Well we know where you get your talking points now. LOL!

You know, I've mentioned several times here on these pages, that the reason the left doesn't accuse the right of UN patriotic behavior, is because the left wingers are MUCH better people....
excon

You don't drink what?

Unpatriotic Republicans?
In light of John Dingell's and Jennifer Granholm's recent statements attacking the patriotism of Republicans who opposed the auto bailout, John Henke rounds up a few other recent examples of Democrats' criticism of "un-American" and "anti-patriotic" Republicans:


"[Some Southern Senators] unpatriotically blocked a bill... " -- Rep. Dingell

"It is unacceptable for this un-American, frankly, behavior of these U.S. senators... " -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm [... ]

"John Ashcroft is not a patriot."—Howard Dean

"[In the Bush administration, there is] a group of people around the President whose main allegiance is to each other and their ideology rather than to the United States."—Howard Dean

"We hear them in the cries of the false patriots who bully dissenters into silence and submission".—Ted Kennedy

"I don't think it's patriotic to put on a flight suit and prance around on the deck of an aircraft carrier looking for a photo op." — Gen. Wesley Clark

"The policy that the administration is following in Iraq is... anti-patriotic at the core... " — Sen. Bob Graham


Posted by John McCormack on The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/12/unpatriotic_republicans_1.asp)

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Well we know where you get your talking points now. LOL!

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

Hello wingers of all persuasions,... when THEY don't go along with Obama's recovery program, as NONE of them have?

excon

Furthermore, "Republicans in the House had sound political reasons to obey their leadership and vote against the stimulus package.

They complain that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats did not get Obama's memo about bipartisanship and claim they were shut out of framing a bill they say features unnecessary spending and insufficient tax cuts." Is Obama's post-partisan politics dead on arrival? (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7920ad41d201471477cc3e9c0bd967e 6.21&show_article=1)

And, " A failure by House Democratic leaders to allow bipartisan input into an $819 billion economic stimulus proposal was a key reason U.S. Rep. Paul E. Kanjorski said he voted against it this week.

Efforts to reach Kanjorski, D-Nanticoke, for comment were unsuccessful, but his office provided a copy of a statement he read on the House floor before the vote."
Kanjorski voted against stimulus because plan wasn't bipartisan | News | citizensvoice.com | The Citizens' Voice (http://www.citizensvoice.com/articles/2009/01/30/news/wb_voice.20090130.t.pg2.cv30cdkanjorski_s1.2269276 _loc.txt)

Enough prattle about bipartisanship and patriotism. Can't we agree that there are 'patriotic' American communists and 'patriotic' libertarians?

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams



these people are playing douchebag psych-out games with each other
Click your ruby slippers together three times and repeat: They can’t be that stupid, they can’t be that stupid, they can’t be that stupid…Those facts from your site of facts?

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Well we know where you get your talking points now. LOL!

Please, spare us, NK. What difference does the source make if it's the truth? Have you even noticed hat the first ten items on Hotair are direct links to a variety of news sources? As of this writing those links include the Washington Times, US News & World Report, The Hill, Politico and the Washington Post. We sure can't trust any of those can we?

You must be more specific, ex. Who was calling who unpatriotic? I don’t recall calling anyone unpatriotic about anything much less “Iraq, Gitmo, or rendition and stuff.” Perhaps I did but I sure don’t recall it, in fact I’m quite sure I’ve said I don’t doubt the patriotism of the left – however misguided I think it may be.

But as to your question, why would it be unpatriotic to oppose more government power, wasteful spending and a lack of accountability? I’m relatively certain based on your past statements you wouldn’t think that unpatriotic.

Hello again:

The point I'm making is LOST on you right wingers... Really lost... I don't know why. You thought I was asking about policies, but I wasn't. I thought I explained my question pretty good, too. But, you didn't get it... I was asking about your arrogance.

You THINK you have the franchise on patriotism. How has that worked for you?

George asked about what Michael Steele is going to have to do to rebuild the party... IF he lives under that same misapprehension, then there's NOTHING he can do. The Republican party is doomed and will continue its decline...

If he DOESN'T live there, then his biggest job will be to convince the rest of you. I don't think he can do it. Do you?

excon

Hello again:

The point I'm making is LOST on you right wingers... Really lost... I don't know why. You thought I was asking about policies, but I wasn't. I thought I explained my question pretty good, too. But, you didn't get it... I was asking about your arrogance.

If I haven’t been claiming the left is unpatriotic how does that show arrogance? I thought my point was pretty simple, too.


You THINK you have the franchise on patriotism. How has that worked for you?

Again, if I said don’t doubt the patriotism of the left how does that show I think we have the franchise on patriotism? If we have to assume that all Republicans are as you define us and that Steele is no different then you may be right, Steele can’t rebuild the party. But since we don’t and I don’t believe he does either, I think there’s a good chance you’ll see a resurgence of the GOP. What will work is for the GOP to be more “one way” as in a return to conservatism, and to build on the true diversity of our party in reaching out further to minorities.

The Dems don’t have a lock on diversity ex, they have an image of such and portray an image of Republicans as a party of rich white men that we have to overcome. Steele is another example of Republicans advancing minorities to places of prominence that the left not only refuses to give us credit for, they attack them as traitors to their race... just as they did to the first black Secretary of State, the first black female Secretary of State and Steele himself. Steele dares to be different from the 90 percent of blacks that voted for Obama and that bodes well for our party even if we have to kick and scratch all the way to beat back the inevitable onslaught from the left. I'm sure Steele and most Republicans welcome and invite all those who dare to be different and courageous enough to escape the clutches of a party that takes advantage of them, uses them as pawns in their power play and could care less about really empowering them.

Same old same old Frank Rich type attack .

The crisis is at least as grave as the one that confronted us.... and, for a time, united us ... after 9/11. Which is why the antics among Republicans on Capitol Hill seem so surreal. These are the same politicians who only yesterday smeared the patriotism of any dissenters from Bush's “war on terror.” Where is their own patriotism now that economic terror is inflicting far more harm on their constituents than Saddam Hussein's nonexistent W.M.D.?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/opinion/01rich.html_r=2

He is really warped to compare the incineration of 3000 people and a decapitation attempt of the US economy and government by external enemies with an economic slump.

Dissent was patriotic when President Bush was in office. Now you have to be bipartisan. You have to stand up and be patriotic by paying your taxes according to Biden .But not Tom Daschel or the half dozen other tax cheats that have passed to confirmation process. It's OK if they cheat on their taxes . They are true patriots.

According to Michelle Obama everyone "must" sacrifice. "Barack Obama will require you to work. . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

I don't buy into the lefty orthodoxy .Therefore I am not patriotic and I'm uninvolved and uninformed. I am unwilling "to find meaning in something greater than [myself ] " if I I reject or don't show fealty to the expansive centralized power he proposes .

Yeah I get it . They couch it in different language but the meaning is the same . I' m not patriotic . I can take it from the source and not moan and complain when I receive their ad hominem .

Things I identify as unpatriotic is garbage like this .
http://www.capveterans.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/shoot_officers2.jpg (http://www.capveterans.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.capveterans.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/shoot_officers2.jpg&target=tlx_new)

Steele will be smeared by the left as an Uncle Tom... just like Judge Thomas was and is .

But not Tom Daschel or the half dozen other tax cheats that have passed to confirmation process. It's ok if they cheat on their taxes . They are true patriots.Hello tom:

Daschel exhibits the worst attributes of a politician swilling at the public trough. He should NEVER be confirmed.

excon

Boy do I agree with that ! His wife is one of the leading lobbyists on K street and was when he was Senate Majority leader also .

Steele will be smeared by the left as an Uncle Tom ....just like Judge Thomas was and is .

Already begun.

You tube: Is RNC Chairman Michael Steele an 'UNCLE TOM'? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcgc9h4y2xY)

GOP Elects Uncle Tom Michael Steele as Chairman (http://prince.org/msg/105/296347?pr)

Token negro. Uncle Tom, Aunt Jemima, house negro, oreo, sellout. This is Steele (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Steeles_victory.html).

Posted By: keeping it real | February 02, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Uncle Ho Says:

Michael Steele, the NEW Uncle Tom. (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/30/steele-chairman/)
January 30th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Shayne Says:

Anyhoo, Uncle Tom is going to send Uncle Cracker over the edge. FABULOUS!
January 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

uncle tom is back (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/rnr/1015752639.html) er: Michael Steele (O,O,O)

And it just gets more disgusting from there.

Already begun.

You tube: Is RNC Chairman Michael Steele an 'UNCLE TOM'? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcgc9h4y2xY)

GOP Elects Uncle Tom Michael Steele as Chairman (http://prince.org/msg/105/296347?pr)

Token negro. Uncle Tom, Aunt Jemima, house negro, oreo, sellout. This is Steele (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Steeles_victory.html).

Posted By: keeping it real | February 02, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Uncle Ho Says:

Michael Steele, the NEW Uncle Tom. (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/30/steele-chairman/)
January 30th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Shayne Says:

Anyhoo, Uncle Tom is going to send Uncle Cracker over the edge. FABULOUS!
January 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

uncle tom is back (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/rnr/1015752639.html) er: Michael Steele (O,O,O)

And it just gets more disgusting from there.Anyone can find a YouTube video to confirm ANY idea they want. The rest of your links point to postings by anonymous people, not news/media reports.

Daschel exhibits the worst attributes of a politician swilling at the public trough. He should NEVER be confirmed.
excon

"President Barack Obama says he 'absolutely' stands by Tom Daschle's nomination for secretary of health and human services." Obama: "absolutely" standing by Daschle - International Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/02/america/Obama-Daschle.php)

Welcome to the Committee of Apostates and Traitors.

Anyone can find a youtube video to confirm ANY idea they want. The rest of your links point to postings by anonymous people, not news/media reports.

Um, tom said "Steele will be smeared by the left as an Uncle Tom... just like Judge Thomas was and is," not "news/media reports."

Are you saying these people aren't of "the left?" Are they really Republicans masquerading as liberals to smear the left? How about the Kossacks who began their smear show on Friday (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/liberals-really-nutty-already-310651-4.html#post1519061), are they not of "the left?"

It's amazing how you'll do anything to discredit and mock a conservative source and make excuses for liberal sources. But that's OK, I'll still keep you posted on who's saying what wretched things about Steele.

Being in Black Face (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judith-ellis/being-in-black-face_b_162665.html), Judith Ellis on Huffington post

'You guys know that this dosen't work with just ANY black guy - right?' -Seth Myers on Saturday Night Live

And have fun reading the comments on Democratic Underground (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3715358#3715987).

How about the Kossacks who began their smear show on Friday (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/liberals-really-nutty-already-310651-4.html#post1519061), are they not of "the left?" I'm not suree what a "kossack" is but that link does not mention "Uncle Tom".



Being in Black Face (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judith-ellis/being-in-black-face_b_162665.html), Judith Ellis on Huffington postThat link does not mention "Uncle Tom".


And have fun reading the comments on Democratic Underground (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3715358#3715987).I don't link to comments by anyone. There is plenty of people with hatred out there, I don't feel like giving them any exposure. Have I ever linked to comments on websites?

I'm not suree what a "kossack" is but that link does not mention "Uncle Tom".

I like to include a 'diversity' of smears from the left, like this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/flagcommunity/michael-steele-web.jpg


That link does not mention "Uncle Tom".

So portraying Steele as being in "black face" and saying "this dosen't work with just ANY black guy" has no "Uncle Tom" connotations and is really a compliment.


I don't link to comments by anyone. There is plenty of people with hatred out there, I don't feel like giving them any exposure. Have I ever linked to comments on websites?

Have I ever said you did? Whether you do is irrelevant. The fact is, Steele has been smeared by the left as an Uncle Tom and worse, is continuing to be smeared as an Uncle Tom or worse, and will be smeared as an Uncle Tom or worse, and your evasive maneuvers won't change that.

Have I ever said you did? Whether or not you do is irrelevant. The fact is, Steele has been smeared by the left as an Uncle Tom and worse, is continuing to be smeared as an Uncle Tom or worse, and will be smeared as an Uncle Tom or worse, and your evasive maneuvers won't change that.
Sorry mate. I few posts by weirdos does not make it such.

Sorry mate. I few posts by weirdos does not make it such.

Sorry mate, but I don't base such things on "a few weirdos." If you'd been paying attention (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/liberals-really-nutty-already-310651-3.html#post1518145) you'd know the smears against Steele have transcended "a few weirdos (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/liberals-really-nutty-already-310651-3.html#post1518974)."

It may be "mostly" a few weirdos so far in this cycle, but the news of his chairmanship is still young. But don't worry, I'll keep you posted.

No one is referring to the far left, in the same way that there's no point in mentioning what the far right is doing - both are fanatics and fanatics are dangerous.

Yep, and calling someone un-this or un-that was a way of controlling the majority through fear.

Hello wingers of all persuasions,

When the left didn't go along with the dufus about Iraq, Gitmo, or rendition and stuff, they were called traitors and UN patriotic....

So, why aren't the right wingers UN patriotic and traitors when THEY don't go along with Obama's recovery program, as NONE of them have???

Poor, poor Republicans. How come you're so one way?

excon

Because we all know that the PORKULUS is a waste of money that we don't have.

It is unpatriotic to burden future generations with further debt and the increasing costs of medicare, medicaid, social security. The latter three, may be insolvent by the time us folks under 40, reach 65.

What do you think adding debt, does to the value of the dollar? Dollars the Treasury can print out of thin air. Think inflation, another tax that is regressive. Is this why you are so into gold? Obama is going to make the dollar worthless.

Speaking of being unpatrioitic didn't Biden say it was "patriotic?"

Biden links tax on wealthy to patriotism - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/09/19/biden_links_tax_on_wealthy_to_patriotism/)


Yet look who Obama hires:

A Tax Dodge or an Honest Mistake? - Room for Debate Blog - NYTimes.com (http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/a-tax-dodge-or-an-honest-mistake/?hp)


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I'm glad the Republicans took and made the free throw on this one. ;)






G&P

Oh Inthebox from the Post I had gotten the impression that there was actually a plan submitted to improve the economny not merely pay off the interest groups and pork to the political party for getting the election.