View Full Version : WOW! History in the making.
SweetDee
Nov 5, 2008, 04:58 AM
:eek::D History has just been made in the US of A. Congratulations to all of you that elected this new president. I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.
I wish the Obama family well and quite frankly I say, "Hats off to you"! It's over the top ASTOUNDING and FABULOUS all in one sentence.
Imagine the changes that can take place in the US?
Imagine how all the haters are going to react in a country filled with so many racists... :eek: As I said before... I wish the Obama family well. I hope they have a ton MORE body guarding scenarios available... I mean, assassinations are probably something that the racists are already conjuring up...
Anyone have any ideas about how they feel that the US will benefit from this new president?
I'm happy for you Obama supporters!:) I feel personally that the right man won... (but I'm just a little 'ol Canadian girl! Hehe).
gromitt82
Nov 5, 2008, 04:58 AM
Today, a black man has become the President of the United States of America!
Thus, that dream Martin Luther King had 45 years ago, when he said “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal." Has, at long last, become true. And what is even more striking is that 145 years ago, President Lincoln abolished –at least, officially- slavery.
From a strict Christian point of view and leaving aside all other political considerations regarding the new President B.O. which do not come into the scope of this Board, the American people has taught the world a lesson which we should all take good note of…
For it is a lesson based upon one of the columns of our faith: that GOD has created ALL MEN EQUAL AND WITH THE SAME RIGHTS. The other column is based on LOVE. “LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I LOVE YOU “(John 15:12)
Even if he turns out not to be as glamorous and efficient as the image he has managed to project the point has already been made by the American people. That a great majority of this great country has decided that it was about time to start afresh and do it by assuming one basic Christian tenet: we are ALL equal, independently of our race, beliefs or pigmentation of our epidermis.
That this may also be the beginning of a new more peaceful and less materialized era!
As a Spaniard I recognize that today I feel a little envious of Americans.
Allheart
Nov 5, 2008, 05:43 AM
Sweet Dee,
I am so sorry that your perception of our people is the way it is. But if you think about it,
American's last night, showed their true inner spirit and heart, and the light shines so brightly on the fact that it would be impossible for last nights results to have taken place, if your perception of our people was accurate. Actually, last nights results... say the exact opposite, and I feel great pride in my nation. Last night the minority "haters" were quieted and who we really are, should be clear to all... the UNITED States of America.
tomder55
Nov 5, 2008, 05:53 AM
Canada doesn't have clean hands either .
speechlesstx
Nov 5, 2008, 08:42 AM
What a disappointment. After looking forward to finally commenting on "history in the making" I looked here and found a hater criticizing haters. I'll offer my congratulations elsewhere.
NeedKarma
Nov 5, 2008, 08:45 AM
I'll offer my congratulations elsewhere.
Nah, you won't - we know you. :D
ScottGem
Nov 5, 2008, 09:17 AM
I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.
I have to comment on this. I have to ask what proof that you have that racists "run so rampant" in the US? I'm not going to deny that racists do exist or that some of them are virulent. But I think the very fact that Obama was able to win shows that racism is no longer so rampant. I think we have proven that a large number of us believe that a person's views matter more to use than the color of their skin. That goes for many that voted for McCain as well. Sure a lot of McCain voters were voting against Obama rather than for McCain, but plenty of they voted for McCain because of his views. This means that a large percentage of the population voted based on the candiates position and ideology and not their race.
So, not so SweetDee, I suggest you do some more reflection and fact chancking before you try to forment more hate.
speechlesstx
Nov 5, 2008, 09:31 AM
Nah, you won't - we know you. :D
NK...
If you try really hard you MIGHT be able to imagine what I want to say here.
NeedKarma
Nov 5, 2008, 10:28 AM
NK ...
If you try really hard you MIGHT be able to imagine what I want to say here.Is it - "see my post in the arugula thread" ?
speechlesstx
Nov 5, 2008, 10:42 AM
Is it - "see my post in the arugula thread" ?
No, it's more descriptive of you. I suppose I could act like the losers in the 2000 and 2004 election...
SweetDee
Nov 5, 2008, 11:16 AM
As I said, I believe the right candidate won! I am happy for the Obama family as I am for the people who have chosen his team.
I just know enough about my cousins, the Americans, to know that there WILL be fall out... it's in the culture.
tomder55
Nov 5, 2008, 11:28 AM
Look to your own back yard. I'll admit one thing however... We used to make fun of Canada being a socialist nanny state . But Canada had the good sense to vote in a conservative government while we are trying to play catch up to a discreditted governing philosophy.
NeedKarma
Nov 5, 2008, 11:36 AM
Hi tom,
Whether it's a liberal or conservative government in power it our universal healthcare or advanced social programs were never in danger.
ScottGem
Nov 5, 2008, 11:43 AM
As I said, I believe the right candidate won! I am happy for the Obama family as I am for the people who have chosen his team.
I just know enough about my cousins, the Americans, to know that there WILL be fall out...it's in the culture.
That is so contradictory. If it was "in the culture" then he wouldn't have been elected in the first place. So obviously its NOT in the culture. Will there be some fallout? It wouldn't surprise me. There are deviants in any culture. Maybe the US has more than its share due to out history. But you clearly know very little about us if you think its "in the culture".
kindj
Nov 5, 2008, 01:05 PM
The allegations of "racism" used to annoy me--now they simply bore me.
How is it any less racist to support Obama simply because of his race than to support McCain simply because of his?
letmetellu
Nov 5, 2008, 01:46 PM
:eek::D History has just been made in the US of A. Congratulations to all of you that elected this new president. I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.
I wish the Obama family well and quite frankly I say, "Hats off to you"! It's over the top ASTOUNDING and FABULOUS all in one sentence.
Imagine the changes that can take place in the US?
Imagine how all the haters are going to react in a country filled with so many racists...:eek: As I said before...I wish the Obama family well. I hope they have a ton MORE body guarding scenarios available...I mean, assassinations are probably something that the racists are already conjuring up...
Anyone have any ideas about how they feel that the US will benifit from this new president?
I'm happy for you Obama supporters!:) I feel personally that the right man won...(but I'm just a little 'ol Canadian girl! hehe).
Why in the world would "just a litte ol Canadian girl! hehe" try to start a race situation on the day after the election. It is people like you that give being alive a bad name.
And by the way not every one that did not vote for Obama is a racist.
Choux
Nov 5, 2008, 02:21 PM
Dee, America has changed so much from the racist country I grew up in in the 1950's and from the activities of me and my friends in the 1960's when we went all out to help our brothers and sisters get their civil rights.
Racists aren't everywhere any more!! Obama's election proves that, and HE CARRIED THE STATE THAT WAS THE HEAD OF THE OLD CONFEDERACY... Virginia.
There are pockets of racism, but we have come so far since the '60's; I can hardly believe it. I can truly rest in peace seeing the Noble Ideals I stood for bear magnificent fruit. :)
America is truly a great country.
tomder55
Nov 6, 2008, 04:47 AM
Hi tom,
Whether it's a liberal or conservative government in power it our universal healthcare or advanced social programs were never in danger.
Yes NK I realize that entrenced entitlements are hard to eliminate . That is the progression of the nanny-state.
...
How is it any less racist to support Obama simply because of his race than to support McCain simply because of his?
Hi DK ! It's been a while .
I guess the unanswered question about the Obama candidacy is this . Would a white 1st term back bencher ever be seriously considered for the job of President given the comparable lack of experience ?
NeedKarma
Nov 6, 2008, 05:35 AM
I'll take my nanny-state anyday!
kindj
Nov 6, 2008, 07:08 AM
.....
Hi DK ! it's been a while .
I guess the unanswered question about the Obama candidacy is this . Would a white 1st term back bencher ever be seriously considered for the job of President given the comparable lack of experience ?
There once was a time when I'd say no, but anymore who knows what is possible?
As for me, I've grown quite tired of all the "experienced" candidates out there on BOTH sides of the aisle. I don't think the founders ever intended for politics to be a profession. I think our representatives were intended to serve one--maybe two--terms, and then go back to whatever job they held before. I think it was intended to be SERVICE, not a profession.
Look at where the "experienced" leaders have gotten us over the last fifty or so years. Maybe it's time to have some commoners in office for a change.
Don't misunderstand me--I do not think that Obama is the right one for the job. However, that opinion has nothing really to do with his inexperience and certainly nothing to do with his race. It has more to do with the fact that his voting record tells us virtually nothing about his stances on issues, and all his speeches ever talked about was "change." I never once heard him outline clear, concise intentions on much of anything, and the few things he did offer opinions on I generally disagreed with him.
I don't know who the best person for the job is, or if they're even out there. If they are, they haven't spoken up yet.
excon
Nov 6, 2008, 07:51 AM
I guess the unanswered question about the Obama candidacy is this . Would a white 1st term back bencher ever be seriously considered for the job of President given the comparable lack of experience ?Hello tom:
It's THAT kind of thinking that was totally repudiated during this election. The sad part is, you and your fellow righty's don't know it yet... And, I doubt you'll EVER figure it out.
Plus, you never got how much the country hated your dufus. The left could have run a mop and trounced him.
excon
tomder55
Nov 6, 2008, 08:11 AM
So I can expect some of these freshman Democrat Senators to announce their candidacy in 2010 and believe they will be taken seriously ?
excon
Nov 6, 2008, 08:15 AM
Hello again, tom:
Again, you're not getting it.
It's not his blackness.. It's not his freshmanness... It's HIM.
excon
tomder55
Nov 6, 2008, 08:31 AM
Hosanna
gromitt82
Nov 6, 2008, 09:45 AM
look to your own back yard. I'll admit one thing however..... We used to make fun of Canada being a socialist nanny state . But Canada had the good sense to vote in a conservative government while we are trying to play catch up to a discreditted governing philosophy.
Sorry to interfere but your neocom government has not proven to be that extraordinary and good for your country, has it?
tomder55
Nov 6, 2008, 10:48 AM
The " neocon s " had little influence in domestic policy . Perhaps if they had they could've convinced President Bush that his spending policies were too "progressive " for the good of the country.
gromitt82
Nov 7, 2008, 03:41 AM
The " neocon s " had little influence in domestic policy . Perhaps if they had they could've convinced President Bush that his spending policies were too "progressive " for the good of the country.
OK, then. Please cancel "neocons" from my previous post and replace it with "Republican Party"
SweetDee
Nov 7, 2008, 03:56 AM
I still feel that this little 'ol Canadian and her "nanny state" feels pretty good about Obama and his elect.
I stand behind my personal point of view. Make no mistake... I respect the Americans as I respect all other countries, even more as they are truly "guardians" of the world. Each country has a reputation... of some kind, (it's just reality). I mean, COME ON it's not like ya'all blend into the world UNNOTICED!! PLEASE!
When you are American you come across as you stand... in all your glory. God Bless America. Honestly!
With this kind of "presence" you HAVE to know that people of other nations want to learn about you. So we do... and did in school too.
Everyone is abundantly aware of American politics and all of their vast issues. You have to live under a rock not to know.
One very prominent issue is race... I know it's changed over the centuries... and thank goodness for this.
We have a ton muliticolored people in our pot pourri of melded cultures... and still racism is not something of an issue that we as Canadians are pegged for. We have other reputations that have already been brought to our attention... ("Nanny state"... lmao!).
I know it's a sensitive issue bring up racism. My intent was to just ask a question as a Canadian knowing full well how contoversial having a black president would be. It's a question, honestly not an accusation.
tomder55
Nov 7, 2008, 04:28 AM
Lol no racism in Canada ? Gimme a break . How many people of color from your pot pourri have become PM ? No racism ?
I'm sure Jonasie Faber Quarqortoq has a different opinion about that .
B.C. Inuit artist slams 'racism' in federal tax office memos (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/story.html?id=fc56a4f1-7e11-48a4-be98-2daeeb128700)
Was the KKK in Kanada ? Yes it was .
The Canadian Human Rights Act and various provincial human-rights acts were enacted at about the same time as our civil rights legislations .Institutional racism ended in both contries about the same time. So just stop the holier than thou stuff.
SweetDee
Nov 7, 2008, 04:38 AM
I didn't say NO RACISM, darling... just that we are not a country that is KNOWN for our racism...
Here is what I said EXACTLY:
"We have a ton muliticolored people in our pot pourri of melded cultures...and still racism is not something of an issue that we as Canadians are pegged for. We have other reputations that have already been brought to our attention...("Nanny state"... lmao!).
No need to be so defensive.
I'm just asking a question here in this post. I'm not making accusations. Ok?
I mean the fall out in the U.S. might be INSANE... A BLACK PRESIDENT!! There are other countries where the leaders are black... It's not an ALL WHITE world.
Imagine a FEMALE president? Or a Jewish one?? Hmmm?
Does Obama open the door to female or Jewish presidents in the American future? I certainly HOPE SO!
Gender or the colour of our skin need not play a role in a leadership position.
There are actual countries where the white people are a minority... (hehe! I love it!).
Reality check! America is just ONE country amongst so many in our world.
As I said, I respect all the MANY MANY countries in our vast world.
P.S: it's spelled C.a.n.a.d.a, you know... with the C and not the K... lmao! (You smart smart New Yorker.. lol).
N0help4u
Dec 6, 2008, 09:08 AM
I agree 100% with letmetellu and Choux
Remarks like yours are racist in itself. Your image of America is so 1950's and most American's belong to the KKK. How archaic your mind is! Many American's have come a long way baby!
Sure there are still haters but I know many people that would love the chance to kill Bush. I do not know anybody that wants to kill Obama. Even the prejudice white are waiting to see what Obama's idea of change. Most people that are anti Obama are so NOT because of his color but because of his belief system.