Hello:

Did you like it? I did. 40 million people saw it. Sean Hannity wondered where all the brass bands were. Course, Hannity is a jillionere and HIS America is doing great. That's why HE wants brass bands. But, he doesn't get that average Americans are in trouble and are very scared right now. We'll do brass bands AFTER Obama fixes what the Republicans broke.

By the way, Obama is going to spend ALL those millions he has, and that the Republicans DON'T. Should he win, the Repubs are already saying that he bought it, and/or that he stole it with the help of ACORN...

How does all this sit with you? Did you notice? He didn't wink once.

excon

Digg commenters LOVE it: Digg - Obama's new 30 min long infomercial (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_s_new_30_min_long_infomercial)

My favorite comment:

Take note that through the course of the 30 minutes, McCain was not mentioned ONCE. Very classy move. He let him, his policies, and his touching stories speak for themselves. Somehow I doubt McCain would have done the same thing...

As a matter of fact, no less than 15 minutes later on the same channel, there was a McCain ad doing nothing but slam Obama for 30 seconds. Quite the contrast.

Even the Washington Compost is beginning to recognize the fraudulent ways he is obtaining campaign contributions :


Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.

Faced with a huge influx of donations over the Internet, the campaign has also chosen not to use basic security measures to prevent potentially illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its accounts, aides acknowledged. Instead, the campaign is scrutinizing its books for improper donations after the money has been deposited.

The Obama organization said its extensive review has ensured that the campaign has refunded any improper contributions, and noted that Federal Election Commission rules do not require front-end screening of donations.

In recent weeks, questionable contributions have created headaches for Obama's accounting team as it has tried to explain why campaign finance filings have included itemized donations from individuals using fake names, such as Es Esh or Doodad Pro. Those revelations prompted conservative bloggers to further test Obama's finance vetting by giving money using the kind of prepaid cards that can be bought at a drugstore and cannot be traced to a donor.The problem with such cards, campaign finance lawyers said, is that they make it impossible to tell whether foreign nationals, donors who have exceeded the limits, government contractors or others who are barred from giving to a federal campaign are making contributions.

Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR)


There was a woman who reported to her credit card company that huge amts . Of donations were sent by someone or groups of individuals using her card in an identity theft. She is not required to pay it back but the Obama campaign gets to keep the money.


The Obama team's disclosures came in response to questions from The Washington Post about the case of Mary T. Biskup, a retired insurance manager from Manchester, Mo. who turned up on Obama's FEC reports as having donated $174,800 to the campaign. Contributors are limited to giving $2,300 for the general election.

Biskup, who had scores of Obama contributions attributed to her, said in an interview that she never donated to the candidate. "That's an error," she said. Moreover, she added, her credit card was never billed for the donations, meaning someone appropriated her name and made the contributions with another card.
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor's name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama's campaign replied in an e-mail: "Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.

The ad itself reminded me of one of those infomercials for supplements that promises you the world but on closer inspection only deliveres trace amts. Of the actives.

But Chris Matthews orgasm ("it was Hollywood, it was romance".)left stains on the ceiling so maybe it was effective




THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
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THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."
THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years—and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."
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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "
THE FACTS: His proposals—the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more—cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged—although not in his commercial—that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."
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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.
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THE SPIN: "We are currently spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, when they have a $79 billion surplus. It seems to me that if we're going to be strong at home as well as strong abroad that we've got to look at bringing that war to a close." These lines in the ad were taken from a debate with McCain. THE FACTS: Obama was once and very often definitive about getting combat troops out in 16 months (At times during the primaries, he promised to do so within a year). More recently, without backing away explicitly from the 16-month withdrawal pledge, he has talked of the need for flexibility. In the primaries, it would have been a jarring departure for him to have said merely that "we've got to look at" ending the war. As for Iraq's surplus, it's true that Iraq could end up with a surplus that large, but that hasn't happened yet.


Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D944H6EO0&show_article=1)

McCain has spent the last three months focusing on Obama. Obama spent those 30 minutes tonight focusing on AMERICANS
McCain supporters can only ever talk about Obama, never anything positive about McCain.

Elections are often bought to the highest bidder, from local sheriff races to national ones,

For example that is why excon and I can't run for office we are poor, and don't have a large funding program behind us.

excon maybe a new non profit, excons and criminals for change, but then no one would be surprised when they break the voting laws and the such I guess.

But then what is amazing with all the millions extra being spent, the margain of polls is still fairly close. Similar to the leads the democrats had in the last election polls four year ago

Still hoping for a Ron Paul write-in win. :)

McCain has spent the last three months focusing on Obama. Obama spent those 30 minutes tonight focusing on AMERICANS
McCain supporters can only ever talk about Obama, never anything positive about McCain.

Yep, all Americans except for babies, born and unborn, who apparently have no rights. He disgusts me. Oh, I forgot, that's "beyond his paygrade" Sick!

McCain has spent the last three months focusing on Obama. Obama spent those 30 minutes tonight focusing on AMERICANS
McCain supporters can only ever talk about Obama, never anything positive about McCain.

The fact that McCain is everything Obama is not, IS positive!

The fact that McCain is everything Obama is not, IS positive!Good luck with your candidate and his campaign!

The fact that McCain is everything Obama is not, IS positive!Hello ashley:

So, how come YOUR state, a very conservative state, is going to vote for Obama? Could it be that those centers of higher learning in Charlotte are full of elitists and abortionists?

excon

What has that got to do with how I feel? By the way, I live in GA, NC is my home of record before the military got my family. And the part of NC that I'M from is very very very conservative. It would be safe to say my county and the 10 surrounding ones, are primarily Repbulican. Charlotte doesn't account for the whole state. Look at a map, ex!

Yep, all Americans except for babies, born and unborn, who apparently have no rights. He disgusts me. Oh, I forgot, that's "beyond his paygrade" Sick!
You really touched on a sore spot with me too. A supporter not only of abortion but of partial birth abortion. Can you imagine what is done to a baby ready to be born?

Obama has played up to the poor urban folks for votes while living in a million dollar mansion himself. Not much different than the Rev. Jesse Jackson or Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He is all things to all people. :eek:

Obama has played up to the poor urban folks for votes while living in a million dollar mansion himself. How many houses does McCain have?

I still agree with ashley on the "above my paygrade" comment. Obama used six times the words that McCain used to answer the same question... problem is, Obama never answered. He used eloquent words and got around it.

Is the man educated? Absolutely. Does he have good ideas? Without a doubt. Does he explain how he's going to work all of this magic on our economy? Nope.

How many houses does McCain have?

McCain has a wealthy wife. Is that a crime? I guess he can have as many homes as he wishes. Obama is a poor boy from a poor mixed family who made it big time. Just a little difference in those two beginnings.

Ex, do you REALLY believe that all that 300 MILLION dollars came from working, middle class workers? Or from those on welfare? Wake up! Try to find out who is trying to buy the White House.

McCain has a wealthy wife. Is that a crime?Is having a million dollar house a crime? Especially since he didn't marry rich, he earned it. Plus we won't even go into the details of how McCain hooked up with the rich wife. That's just disgusting.

Is having a million dollar house a crime? Especially since he didn't marry rich, he earned it. Plus we won't even go into the details of how McCain hooked up with the rich wife. That's just disgusting.

You think he earned it but I've not been able to find any record of his past jobs before becoming a Senator on the bank rolls of George Soros, Tony Rezko and William Ayres (the mad bomber from the 60's) I don't think a volunteer community organizer makes money. Amazingly Obama, with his poor white grandparents help was even able to attend Harvard. Hahahaha

People are so silly to believe this bunk!

McCain has spent the last three months focusing on Obama. Obama spent those 30 minutes tonight focusing on AMERICANS
McCain supporters can only ever talk about Obama, never anything positive about McCain.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Every ad I've seen on TV for McCain has just bashed Obama. Are there any where he focuses on what he wants to do or is every ad the same?

And Ashley, have you ever heard of rape? Or lethal conditions that would kill the baby and/or the mother? That's the reason we need to have choices.

You took the words right out of my mouth. every ad I've seen on tv for McCain has just bashed Obama. Are there any where he focusses on what he wants to do or is every ad the same?

And Ashley, have you ever heard of rape? or lethal conditions that would kill the baby and/or the mother? that's the reason we need to have choices.

Since it's been brought up, what about Obama's outright lie that McCain doesn't support equal pay for women? I checked into that and found out what the truth was.

As for the rape/lethal conditions aspect, I agree that it's a hard decision to make. However, if you legalize abortion in only rape cases, then every woman walking into a clinic is going to say she was raped just to get an abortion. The crooked doctors out there are going to say that the baby had to be terminated "for the mother's health."

Obama is going to destroy our country. It makes me sick to think that our world is going to be coming to an end here pretty soon. Obama is a freaking joke and when he does get into office you will see in two years what a mistake you made for voting for him. And the only reason why he will make it into office is because he cheated his way into office. His campaign was going and getting homeless people registered to vote. Now tell me how is there any way to know where that person resides if they are homeless. And, now two states are letting convicted felons vote. Who do you think they are going to vote for? Not the white dude of course. And this has turned into a racial campaign. Almost all of the people on welfare who don't pay taxes as it is are going to vote for him so they can continue to stay on welfare. It tears my because I am in the lower income class and I make too much money to qualify for welfare because I am working two jobs and going to school full-time to support my child. Plus, I would be voting for him, but I found out that he won't even put his hand on his heart during AMERICA'S National Anthem, now how are we going to put a "Muslim" in office as President if he won't even salute our country? That is crazy!! Plus, as soon as Obama got his campaign jet, the first thing he did was remove the American flag on the plane's tail. And McCain's wife probably hooked up with him because he is a well educated, dedicated man who is a generally good guy. Everyone who votes for Obama is going to see what he does to our country. We are going to have change, but it isn't going to be a good change, it will be devastating.

Since it's been brought up, what about Obama's outright lie that McCain doesn't support equal pay for women? I checked into that and found out what the truth was.

As for the rape/lethal conditions aspect, I agree that it's a hard decision to make. However, if you legalize abortion in only rape cases, then every woman walking into a clinic is going to say she was raped just to get an abortion. The crooked doctors out there are going to say that the baby had to be terminated "for the mother's health."

So you're saying punish the people that are innocent because there's a couple crooks out there?

so you're saying punish the people that are innocent because there's a couple crooks out there?

I think that it should be the woman's choice to have an abortion or not. I am not saying that I believe in them, but if you were to go to an abortion clinic one weekend and count how many women are in there. Then multiple that by 72 (for the weeks in a year) then that is how many more unwanted children there would be in our world. And what do people do when they can't afford things for their kids? They go on welfare and all of the working people get to pay for them. So, I say let the women live with their decisions for the rest of their lives. That isn't your life, so don't worry about it. That is my view. I do think that it is wrong and unjust, and it isn't an innocent child's fault and if you have sex you need to deal with the consequences, but sometimes it is not fair to bring an unwanted child into this world.

so you're saying punish the people that are innocent because there's a couple crooks out there?

No, I'm saying that we shouldn't punish the baby. Adoption is always an option; murder should not be.

Yeah, because everyone wants to adopt a stillborn baby. I'm not trying to be rude but I know firsthand of someone that that was told by her doctor that her baby would not live, would most likely not make it 9 months in the womb and if she did she would end up being stillborn. On top of that she could have died. So if you were given a 100% chance that your baby would die and a good chance that you would die, what would you do? I don't really thing adoption is the best choice here.

I was referring to adoption in the case of rape. There are numerous stories about doctors providing wrong diagnosis to patients; mothers are pushed towards abortion because the doctor says the child is going to have Downs syndrome, only to have the child born completely healthy.

I don't like that Obama voted "no" on a bill that would make sure a doctor had to use every means possible to save a baby that was born alive as the result of a partial-birth abortion, and then tries to justify his actions by saying "[that bill] didn't contain anything concerning the health of the mother." That's a complete cop-out if I ever saw one, along with the beginning of life being "above his paygrade." If the baby is born, it's a living, breathing human being who deserves just as much protection as you or I. How can a baby, who is no longer inside of its mother, pose a threat to that same mother?

My cousin's baby had 69 chromosomes. She couldn't keep it. There was no way the baby would live. This isn't downs syndrome. This is "the baby can't survive"

It's a hard choice, I agreed with you. I don't like Obama because he dances around issues rather than give Americans a straight-forward answer. You and I can sit down and tell each other our opinion on the matter; why can't he?

Yeah I don't know. I think if he did share his views maybe it would make more sense to some people, but I found a story online about a couple that their baby had triploidy. (69 chromosomes) like what my cousin's baby had.

Untitled Document (http://www.whiterockfellowship.com/andy/save.htm)

Abortion aside, I don't like Obama because as I said, he doesn't answer questions. I don't like the way that everyone ignored that when his self-proclaimed mentor flew off the handle, he said, "It doesn't matter if I agree with Rev. Wright's views or not..." Uh, yeah; it kind of does!

Elections are often bought to the highest bidder, from local sheriff races to national ones,

For example that is why excon and I can't run for office we are poor, and don't have a large funding program behind us.

excon maybe a new non profit, excons and criminals for change, but then no one would be surprised when they break the voting laws and the such I guess.



The way I see it that is one of the major problems with the political system in your country. A major flaw among many in my opinion. Its about money money and more money. No wonder it is a greedy, wasteful society we live in. And no side is better than the other when it comes to this.

You took the words right out of my mouth. every ad I've seen on tv for McCain has just bashed Obama. Are there any where he focusses on what he wants to do or is every ad the same?

And Ashley, have you ever heard of rape? or lethal conditions that would kill the baby and/or the mother? that's the reason we need to have choices.

Actually I have. Of course, if the mother's life were at stake, this would be a different circumstance. But irresponsible people going out and having sex and killing babies, it's sick and I don't want to think about it. But abortion itself aside, let's look at PARTIAL BIRTH abortion. Any of you ever witness one? Explain to me why ANYONE in their RIGHT mind would carry a child ALL the way up to delivery and then KILL it? It's MURDER. If you are driving drunk, and kill a pregnant mother, you get charged with TWO counts of manslaughter? Hypocrisy? Yes! We have laws designed for mothers that don't want their kids, in place to PREVENT things like abortions. Like the law that says you can drop an unwanted baby off in any ER, no questions asked. Why would anyone carry a child full term and destroy it, unless they are sick and demented. People that do this should not be granted the pleasure of parenthood and should be sterilized.

actually I have. Of course, if the mother's life were at stake, this would be a different circumstance.


Ashley, the problem with the way our law is formulated is that there is no gray area for many circumstances. You either accept choice in the situation (abiding by the perimeters of the law as is) or lose abortion as a choice all together. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is and why I'm pro-choice. Personally outside of rape or the mother's health being at risk, I'd like to see more adoptions although that's an open tab at the public's expence.

It's a hard choice, I agreed with you. I don't like Obama because he dances around issues rather than give Americans a straight-forward answer. You and I can sit down and tell each other our opinion on the matter; why can't he?

When McCain was asked about his abortion stance, he said there would be special provisions made in cases of violence (rape) and some other conditions.

Obama is catering to the urban poor African-American youth who don't protect themselves and have a higher than average pregnancy rate. By saying it's all okay - they no longer have to even consider abstaining or protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancy. They don't have to consider they are actually killing a baby either.

Sometime later in their lives, it will come back to haunt them and my guess is they won't be saying thanks for the freedom to murder.

Ashley, the problem with the way our law if formulated is that there is no gray area for many circumstances. You either accept choice in the situation (abiding by the perimeters of the law as is) or lose abortion as a choice all together.

However ; if the courts had not intervened then it is likey by now that a political compromise would've been reached on a state by state basis. It was the ill-advised intervention by the courts that hardened opinions on the issue.

However ; if the courts had not intervened then it is likey by now that a political compromise would've been reached on a state by state basis. It was the ill-advised intervention by the courts that hardened opinions on the issue.

Good point! That is some of those states by now. But looking back it's a case of coulda-woulda-shoulda. Unfortunately we have to deal with it as is. That's why part of the public, like myself, have taken a pro-choice stand on the issue.