jozbun
Jun 7, 2006, 04:45 AM
Good afternoon.
First some background. Recently I got a new position with my company. I stay in Cherry Hill NJ 3 weeks of every month for work, and on the 4th week I fly home to Oregon to be with my family. Hard hours, but that's how I pay the bills.
I rent a room with a friend while here, and recently she and her boyfriend decided to have her basement finished (bare cement floor, and walls), and then rent one of the new rooms to me (Great!). 2 bedrooms, Bathe with shower, and the Laundry room relocated to the other side of the basement. About 600-800 square feet.
She took out a mortgage, and started the process with a general contractor. The contractor was very reasonable, and made all the right noises, and can be quoted as saying "I never pass on additional costs from material rises on to my customers". Presented her with a contract with a nice price (18K) plus 5K for the "waterproofing". The waterproofing was performed in advance, and everything seemed to be going as planned.
They signed a second contract to cover the construction of the 2 rooms, and hallway.
The 18K was due in 3 6K installments. 1 to start. 1 at the "halfway" point to pay for the Plumber & Electrician (which the General Contractor subcontracted), and the last 6K "Due upon completion".
There was a couple weeks of delay as funds, and contractors were lined up, but about 3 weeks ago work started.
You now know what I am about to say; Problems from day one.
I won't go into the whole thing, but the general contractor has been complaining from the outset about a "sudden jump" in materials. The Electrician, and Plumber raiser their prices (by about $400 each), and just general unhappiness.
Then things got worse
I knew there was trouble when the General contractor kept coming up, and saying things like "Oh something we didn't itemize in the contract is the drywall for the walls so that's outside the general build price, and I need money for that."
Where we are now.
The general contractor received the 1st 2 payments (12K in total) from my friend as agreed, and now the Plumber, and Electrician are saying the General contractor isn't coughing up money.
The General Contractor is saying there is nothing of that 12K left, and my friend will have to cough up more money for him to finish the job. He ran out of lumber yesterday, and stated he would come back today, and "Finish up what he could", but then he needs to go to another job to pay his bills.
Speaking with the Plumber, my friend , and my Father-in-Law (who has been a builder in Oregon for many years) it looks like the General contractor completely underbid the contract. He's now working for free on this job, and is understandably frustrated, but he also signed the contract.
The kicker is he also didn't get any permits for this work, and according to the plumber that leaves my friend with no real legal recourse as the City/County/State inspections/approval boards will slap her silly with fines for construction without permits.
What construction is completed
90% of the framing is done.
50% of the drywall has been hung (no ceiling drywall in place).
90% of the Plumbing has been installed.
90% of the electrical work has been completed.
And to top all this off we recently noticed that when it rains the cement all around the basement now gets damp (where he put in the new "Waterproofing system").
I advised my friend that she needs to come to the realization now that whether she sticks with this guy, or another contractor it's going to take more than the last 6K to finish this job. Someone is going to have to Settle up with the Plumber, but she never signed any contract with them. Their contract was with the General contractor (and that's another story in itself). She did agree with the GC that she would pay the additional ~$400 overages for each of the 2 subcontractors, so She is going to do that at this point, but nothing more.
Can anyone offer some advice? I've been looking online for resources to help my friend, but I'm not sure what I am looking for.
First some background. Recently I got a new position with my company. I stay in Cherry Hill NJ 3 weeks of every month for work, and on the 4th week I fly home to Oregon to be with my family. Hard hours, but that's how I pay the bills.
I rent a room with a friend while here, and recently she and her boyfriend decided to have her basement finished (bare cement floor, and walls), and then rent one of the new rooms to me (Great!). 2 bedrooms, Bathe with shower, and the Laundry room relocated to the other side of the basement. About 600-800 square feet.
She took out a mortgage, and started the process with a general contractor. The contractor was very reasonable, and made all the right noises, and can be quoted as saying "I never pass on additional costs from material rises on to my customers". Presented her with a contract with a nice price (18K) plus 5K for the "waterproofing". The waterproofing was performed in advance, and everything seemed to be going as planned.
They signed a second contract to cover the construction of the 2 rooms, and hallway.
The 18K was due in 3 6K installments. 1 to start. 1 at the "halfway" point to pay for the Plumber & Electrician (which the General Contractor subcontracted), and the last 6K "Due upon completion".
There was a couple weeks of delay as funds, and contractors were lined up, but about 3 weeks ago work started.
You now know what I am about to say; Problems from day one.
I won't go into the whole thing, but the general contractor has been complaining from the outset about a "sudden jump" in materials. The Electrician, and Plumber raiser their prices (by about $400 each), and just general unhappiness.
Then things got worse
I knew there was trouble when the General contractor kept coming up, and saying things like "Oh something we didn't itemize in the contract is the drywall for the walls so that's outside the general build price, and I need money for that."
Where we are now.
The general contractor received the 1st 2 payments (12K in total) from my friend as agreed, and now the Plumber, and Electrician are saying the General contractor isn't coughing up money.
The General Contractor is saying there is nothing of that 12K left, and my friend will have to cough up more money for him to finish the job. He ran out of lumber yesterday, and stated he would come back today, and "Finish up what he could", but then he needs to go to another job to pay his bills.
Speaking with the Plumber, my friend , and my Father-in-Law (who has been a builder in Oregon for many years) it looks like the General contractor completely underbid the contract. He's now working for free on this job, and is understandably frustrated, but he also signed the contract.
The kicker is he also didn't get any permits for this work, and according to the plumber that leaves my friend with no real legal recourse as the City/County/State inspections/approval boards will slap her silly with fines for construction without permits.
What construction is completed
90% of the framing is done.
50% of the drywall has been hung (no ceiling drywall in place).
90% of the Plumbing has been installed.
90% of the electrical work has been completed.
And to top all this off we recently noticed that when it rains the cement all around the basement now gets damp (where he put in the new "Waterproofing system").
I advised my friend that she needs to come to the realization now that whether she sticks with this guy, or another contractor it's going to take more than the last 6K to finish this job. Someone is going to have to Settle up with the Plumber, but she never signed any contract with them. Their contract was with the General contractor (and that's another story in itself). She did agree with the GC that she would pay the additional ~$400 overages for each of the 2 subcontractors, so She is going to do that at this point, but nothing more.
Can anyone offer some advice? I've been looking online for resources to help my friend, but I'm not sure what I am looking for.