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tomatoes
Oct 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
Hi everyone. I have a question that I would love for, but don't expect to be, finally answered.
Is there any evidence or reason to believe not only in life after death, but in that during our time after death, we will speak with the Lord, and when we do, he can answer questions we never could have answered during our time on Earth?
For example, I know this sounds silly, but I have an ex-boyfriend who I am still so deeply in love with it is absolutely unbearable. We are broken up, for good, because he has it set in his mind that I have been unfaithful to him, at least once (this is because of his fear of it). Not only have I never been unfaithful to him, not even once, but I have never even had the desires to. Sure I had thought about it, contemplated whether it would ever be something I would actually do, but I came to the conclusion that I would never want to do anything to jeopardize our relationship, our love, and our trust. Being unfaithful to him would require me not only not caring about his feelings, but also me not having a care for him in general. How can you be in love with someone and want to be with someone else at the same time? So I never cheated. Never even wanted to.
To this day, no matter how much I beg, I swear, and I promise, anything, he still has this image of me in his mind as the most evil and truly cold hearted person, because he truly believes in his heart that I have cheated on him, and there is nothing anyone could do to change that. It's embedded in his mind, and in his heart.
Believe it or not, I could actually see myself getting along okay without him, without being his girlfriend or him being my boyfriend, without the idea of being his wife and the mother to his children one day, without the idea of spending the rest of my life with him. But to know that while each of us are trying to go our separate ways, he is secretly being torn apart inside because he believes he has been hurt so badly by someone he loved so deeply and so unexplainably, I am dying inside. This hurt is not describable in words, my own heart barely even understands the feeling that has taken over my mind, my body, my life.
Please, if anyone out there can give me any advice, I will be satisfied just knowing that one day, he will talk to the Lord himself, and the Lord will be able to tell him how wrong he was, and finally he can be happy. This is really all that I need to know. I don't expect anyone to "know" the answer, but if you have any advice or happen to believe this to be a possible or impossible idea, please relay your thoughts to me. I would greatly appreciate it. I will be settled just knowing that one day, the Lord will show him the truth, and he will finally be happy, finally know the reality of my love, and finally be taken out of this emotional disaster he is experiencing in believing that he has been so betrayed by someone he loved so greatly.
Thanks, I really appreciate anyone who has taken the time to read about my inquiry and especially taken time to offer advice/knowledge.
Fr_Chuck
Oct 18, 2008, 03:45 PM
In heaven we will know know pain or hurt. So we will no longer know of the heart ache and be filled with the love and grace of the Lord. First you have to assume he will be saved, and if so, he will be forgiven all the pain he has caused.
What you need is to move on and find a place to forgive him.
Will he ever know, perhaps he will find it in this life,
TitaniumG
Feb 22, 2009, 06:23 PM
Friend,the bible says that the dead doesn't know anything so when your ex-boyfriend dies he will not see God directly, after the resurrection ,yes he will, but their won't be a lot of talking but only the giving of punishments and rewards.So don't wait till he dies try to convince him now.Also this is just an opinion I think he was the one who was cheating and acted as if you did to get out of the relationship.But I may be wrong or I may be dead on right!
classyT
Feb 23, 2009, 08:17 AM
If one is saved and knows the Lord Jesus as their savior the Bible is crystal clear.. to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Yes, when we die we will be able to see and talk to the Lord Jesus.
jakester
Feb 23, 2009, 11:34 AM
Hi everyone. I have a question that I would love for, but don't expect to be, finally answered.
Is there any evidence or reason to believe not only in life after death, but in that during our time after death, we will speak with the Lord, and when we do, he can answer questions we never could have answered during our time on Earth?
For example, I know this sounds silly, but I have an ex-boyfriend who I am still so deeply in love with it is absolutely unbearable. We are broken up, for good, because he has it set in his mind that I have been unfaithful to him, at least once (this is because of his fear of it). Not only have I never been unfaithful to him, not even once, but I have never even had the desires to. Sure I had thought about it, contemplated whether or not it would ever be something I would actually do, but I came to the conclusion that I would never want to do anything to jeopardize our relationship, our love, and our trust. Being unfaithful to him would require me not only not caring about his feelings, but also me not having a care for him in general. How can you be in love with someone and want to be with someone else at the same time? So I never cheated. Never even wanted to.
To this day, no matter how much I beg, I swear, and I promise, anything, he still has this image of me in his mind as the most evil and truly cold hearted person, because he truly believes in his heart that I have cheated on him, and there is nothing anyone could do to change that. It's embedded in his mind, and in his heart.
Believe it or not, I could actually see myself getting along okay without him, without being his girlfriend or him being my boyfriend, without the idea of being his wife and the mother to his children one day, without the idea of spending the rest of my life with him. But to know that while each of us are trying to go our separate ways, he is secretly being torn apart inside because he believes he has been hurt so badly by someone he loved so deeply and so unexplainably, I am dying inside. This hurt is not describable in words, my own heart barely even understands the feeling that has taken over my mind, my body, my life.
Please, if anyone out there can give me any advice, I will be satisfied just knowing that one day, he will talk to the Lord himself, and the Lord will be able to tell him how wrong he was, and finally he can be happy. This is really all that I need to know. I don't expect anyone to "know" the answer, but if you have any advice or happen to believe this to be a possible or impossible idea, please relay your thoughts to me. I would greatly appreciate it. I will be settled just knowing that one day, the Lord will show him the truth, and he will finally be happy, finally know the reality of my love, and finally be taken out of this emotional disaster he is experiencing in believing that he has been so betrayed by someone he loved so greatly.
Thanks, I really appreciate anyone who has taken the time to read about my inquiry and especially taken time to offer advice/knowledge.
tomatoes -
Look, not to diminish the emotional difficulties you are feeling right now, but there are more significant issues that need addressing which may help to put your situation in perspective.
First, it sounds like you have not personally settled the matter of life after death for yourself: “Is there any evidence or reason to believe not only in life after death….” I do not know where you really stand on the matter but judging by your question, at the very least, is it not a matter that you have really concluded. To me, the importance of settling that question is that our very lives depend upon what we believe about God, what he has promised, and what it is he wants from us. Our lives are often shared with others, be it family or friends, etc.; but the bible is standing in the midst of our lives calling for our attention. What will we do with its claims? How will we choose to live our lives? What will we do about the pain we experience as it relates to our understanding God and his purposes in our lives?
The reason I point this out is because ultimately, in my opinion, God is not all that interested in making sure that your boyfriend knows the truth about you and that you are innocent. What God is really concerned about is whether you come to understand the truth and your need for mercy. I believe he is operating according to a set of principles that are focused on far more significant things. Do relationships have a place with God? Absolutely. Relationships can be a means for God to make us wiser and more loving people. But relationships never trump the significance of the most important things in life. God sent his son into this world to bear the guilt of those who would place their faith in him and receive mercy. To me, you have got to consider the importance of this first before you ponder whether God will ever reveal the truth about you to your boyfriend.
Secondly, perhaps if God is sovereignly working in your life, he may have placed you in the midst of this circumstance to wake you up to the things I have outlined above. I know God can take away things from us that are most dear to us to break us and humble us because we may have an unhealthy affinity for the things of this world, including relationships. I believe he does it because he is loving and because learning wisdom and truth is something much more valuable than any relationship…because in the end, after it is all said and done, whether we were committed to knowing God and learning his ways is what will separate us all in the end.
I understand that you are dealing with emotional pain and I have great empathy for you because I have been there. However, I also appreciate coming out from those circumstances and having the courage to leave my past where it is. We have to move on. We must become wiser and realize that there is more to life than just our relationships…whether they be bad or good. We cannot always do right by each other; sometimes we fail each other and sometimes we do not fail but we are rejected by others. We all are sinners and we all hurt each other and if our relationships in of themselves are supposed to bring us lasting joy and peace, then I'm afraid we will never find it because as long as we are the way we are, we will never do what we ought to. This is why I contend that finding lasting joy and peace with God is the only worthwhile pursuit…in the end, if you are ever found to be innocent in the eyes of your boyfriend is really meaningless…but finding mercy in the eyes of a good and loving God is what you should strive for.
Sincerely.
arcura
Feb 23, 2009, 11:16 PM
tomatoes,
You have received some good advice so far particularly from form Fr. Chuck and Jakester.
The boy friend you are in love with has a big problem and it is other than his belief that your have cheated on him.
That guy is of the type who will have troubles all his life.
For some reason he is terribly insecure.
Now to your question, Yes, after death persons will be able to talk with God IF they are saved and in heaven.
If fact it is believed that once a person becomes one with God they will know everything.
All truth will be shared.
My advice to you is to work that guy out of your system. As a former counselor I have know people like him and they are very difficult to deal with because of their insecurity which can be caused by a variety of incidents some of which could have started in early childhood.
He needs a good councilor to help him, and it is not you.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
swatterac
Feb 25, 2009, 02:47 PM
Tomatoes, I do believe we will talk to the LORD directly just as in the beginning
Like Adam and eve did.
As to your other situation I think as time moves on so will your heart and he
Will be the loser in this situation,I truly believe.Keep your eyes on GOD and your
Prayers and he will guide you to someone who will make your former love a distant
Memory.
arcura
Feb 25, 2009, 11:02 PM
swatterac,
THAT'S Very good advice from you.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
cozyk
Feb 26, 2009, 06:06 AM
tomatoes,
You are right. None of us knows anything. I happen to believe certain things though. For instance, when we return to God, after our time on earth, we will have no need for vocal speech. That is a human trait. I personally believe that are our questions, doubts, etc. will be satisfied. We will just know the answers of our lives if we even care about them then.
On the other hand, your boyfriend sounds like a kook. You have done nothing to make him believe that you may have cheated on him, yet he is totally convinced that you did. What is wrong with this picture? Just out of the blue one day, he decides you are cheating. Doesn't add up. What's up with him?
arcura
Feb 26, 2009, 02:57 PM
cozyk,
As I said that kook needs counseling.
Fred