View Full Version : I'm 17 he's 25 I'm pregnant. Do my parents have rights if I'm married?
ILoveVille4ever
Sep 18, 2008, 07:27 PM
I live in Indiana.
I am 17 && he's 25. I think I might be pregnant and if I am, him && I know my mom would completely freak out because she doesn't even want us together. He thinks that him & I getting married (( because it is legal in some states if I'm pregnant to get married w/ out parent consent.)) would help force my mom into dealing w/ it. But my question is if I get married does she still have the right to put him away and/or take me away from him?
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I JUST turned 17.
But I thoought that because the consent age in Indiana was 17 that it would be alrite?
stinawords
Sep 18, 2008, 07:48 PM
In Indiana you have to have a parents signature to get married if under 18. How far are you from being 18?
Fr_Chuck
Sep 18, 2008, 07:49 PM
Sorry but caramelbunny is very wrong in many states.
First you may not always just travel out of state, in fact in some states if he tries to take you out of state to get married, that could even be kidnaping and the parents could easily get the marriage annulled.
Also in some states like Georgia where the age of consent is 18, they can have him arrested for rape.
So yes this can be very very serious.
caramelbunny
Sep 18, 2008, 07:57 PM
Sorry! You are treated as an adult in the medical field. My mistake!
stinawords
Sep 18, 2008, 08:22 PM
Oh no, really not okay to try to get married and force the issue on your parents. You still have to have your parents signature for basically anything you do for another year especially marrieage. So I would recommend hearing your mom out because she may actually have something behind her dislike of him (not saying for sure because my mom still doesn't really like my husband after five years of me being married but I was quite a bit older than you so didn't have to ask my mom) so until you are 18 you are going to have to abide by her rules.
ILoveVille4ever
Sep 18, 2008, 08:41 PM
i live in Indiana.
i am 17 && he's 25. i think i might be pregnant and if i am, him && i know my mom would completely freak out because she doesnt even want us together. He thinks that him & i geting married (( because it is legal in some states if im pregnant to get married w/ out parent consent.)) would help force my mom into dealing w/ it. But my question is if i get married does she still have the right to put him away and/or take me away from him?
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i JUST turned 17.
but i thoought that because the consent age in Indiana was 17 that it would be alrite?
I understand what you are saying but there are states that allow you to get married w/ out consent if your pregnant and 17
stinawords
Sep 18, 2008, 09:17 PM
Right but you aren't a resident of those states and if he takes you across statelines as a minor you parents can press charges against him and the marriage will be annulled so all the effort will be useless and he will be sitting in jail. You will also be sent back to your parents house how easy do you think it will be to live in their house after that? You are going to have to live by your parents rules for one more year then you will be free to leave and move where ever you want and get married or not get married but until you are 18 you have to have their permission.
tampa_boricua74
Sep 18, 2008, 09:46 PM
Well hope you turn 18 soon because if your parents finds out they can get him 4 under aged sex and that would be bad for you both especial if you are pregnant because your parents still have a say so over you and might ask u 2 abort. Good luck
ILoveVille4ever
Sep 18, 2008, 09:50 PM
Right..
But they can't force me to get an abortion unless she can prove that I'm unfit & I'm not.
JudyKayTee
Sep 19, 2008, 08:19 AM
well hope u turn 18 soon because if ur parents finds out they can get him 4 under aged sex and that would be bad 4 u both especial if u are pregnant because ur parents still have a say so over u and might ask u 2 abort. Good luck
Again, please don't use "chat speak" or "text speak." It's difficult to understand, particularly on a legal board.
Yes, the parents can ask OP to have an abortion; however, there is no State where they can "force" an abortion.
JudyKayTee
Sep 19, 2008, 08:20 AM
right..
but they can't force me to get an abortion unless she can prove that im unfit & im not.
Parents cannot force an abortion nor can they claim you would be an unfit mother before the child is born.
stinawords
Sep 19, 2008, 08:45 AM
No they can't force you to have an abortion even if they think you will be unfit. It doesn't work that way.
cdad
Sep 19, 2008, 02:58 PM
sorry! you are treated as an adult in the medical field. my mistake!
I don't think that this is correct. Any time a minor is involved in a medical procedure other then life threatening or abortion; the doctors have to seek permission to treat the underage patient. So no at 17 they aren't treated like an adult. Also in Indiana emancipation of a child doesn't occur until age 21. So there is some conflict there also.
theshores
Sep 19, 2008, 06:06 PM
Don't get married just because you are pregnant please! That is not a good idea. You are still young and need time to decide if this is the person that you want to spend your life with. If he's any man at all, once you guys find out for sure if you are, you both should sit down with your parents and let them know what is going on and the decisions that you guys are making. You should conduct yourself as an adult and be responsible. I would hope that your parents would respect him more if he owned up to his responsibilities and faced them with it.
I mean think about the Big Picture for a moment. Does he work full time and have health insurance? If not, if you guys get married you won't be covered by anyone. If your parents won't help... is he able to provide for you financially? Is he responsible and ready to take on the role of a husband? Think really hard about this if law does permit it.
All the best
liz28
Sep 19, 2008, 06:13 PM
First, you need to find out for sure if your pregnant instead of thinking you might. Get a pregnancy test or go to a clinic. Why the rush to get marry at such a young age?
stinawords
Sep 19, 2008, 06:21 PM
I dont think that this is correct. Any time a minor is involved in a medical procedure other then life threatening or abortion; the doctors have to seek permission to treat the underage patient. So no at 17 they arent treated like an adult. Also in indiana emancipation of a child doesnt occur until age 21. So there is some conflict there also.
For marriage you only have to be 18 because even though lots of web sites say emancipation is at 21 it is actually for all other purposed but child support at 18. At 18 you are an adult if you get in trouble you are the one going to jail and what not you can get married move out do whatever you want. The only thing that applies to the age being 21 is support continuing if the child is a full time student until that age. You aren't the only one that has made that same type of comment so I know the wrong information is everywhere.
cdad
Sep 20, 2008, 09:18 AM
For marriage you only have to be 18 because even though lots of web sites say emancipation is at 21 it is actually for all other purposed but child support at 18. At 18 you are an adult if you get in trouble you are the one going to jail and what not you can get married move out do whatever you want. The only thing that applies to the age being 21 is support continuing if the child is a full time student until that age. You aren't the only one that has made that same type of comment so I know the wrong information is everywhere.
Here is where it gets confusing because In law can't seem to make up its mind.
http://www.in.gov/isdh/files/May2007.pdf
http://www.in.gov/icpr/webfile/formsdiv/52690.pdf
Fiscal Impact Statement, Senate Bill 0469 (http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/1999/FISCAL/SB0469.001.html)
http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2000/PDF/FISCAL/SB0459.001.pdf
Requirements for In.
State (http://www.bostoncoop.net/lcd/emancipation/indiana.html)
They seem to agree to disagree.
stinawords
Sep 20, 2008, 11:58 AM
I can't give calif any more greenies so I'll just say those are some good sites and I know IN can be confusing... I'm pretty sure the only reason I know as much about it is because not only was I born and raised here but also had to study it in order to get my degree lol. But yea as far as this case is concerned she just has to wait until turning 18 then can get married and move out. In no way am I going to say that I am part of those web sites because I'm pretty sure IN government people are sitting around laughing at all the confused faces people get trying to figure them out.
ILoveVille4ever
Sep 22, 2008, 07:36 AM
Don't get married just because you are pregnant please! that is not a good idea. You are still young and need time to decide if this is the person that you want to spend your life with. If he's any man at all, once you guys find out for sure if you are, you both should sit down with your parents and let them know what is going on and the decisions that you guys are making. You should conduct yourself as an adult and be responsible. I would hope that your parents would respect him more if he owned up to his responsibilities and faced them with it.
I mean think about the Big Picture for a moment. Does he work full time and have health insurance? If not, if you guys get married you won't be covered by anyone. If your parents won't help...is he able to provide for you financially? Is he responsible and ready to take on the role of a husband? Think really hard about this if law does permit it.
All the best
Yes, he has his own business works full time && has already told me that even if we are not married while/after I'm pregnant he wants to put me on his health insurance to pay for the medical bills.
stinawords
Sep 22, 2008, 09:16 AM
Are you pregnant right now or not? Because if you are then his insurance won't cover you because pretty much all insurance policies that cover maternaty make you be on the plan for at least a year before becoming pregnant.
liz28
Sep 22, 2008, 10:21 AM
Are you pregnant right now or not? Because if you are then his insurance won't cover you because pretty much all insurance policies that cover maternaty make you be on the plan for at least a year before becomming pregnant.
Actually, when I was pregnant with my daughter I was put on his health insurance as soon as I found out I was pregnant. I know his premiums went up but I still was added. It depends on the health insurance,like you stated, because everyone has their own policies.
JudyKayTee
Sep 22, 2008, 11:45 AM
Actually, when I was pregnant with my daughter I was put on his health insurance as soon as I found out I was pregnant. I know his premiums went up but I still was added. It depends on the health insurance,like you stated, because everyone has their own policies.
All companies must be different - just looked at my policy and it doesn't cover pre existing for a year and pregnancy is considered to be pre existing. Go figure.
liz28
Sep 22, 2008, 12:08 PM
All companies must be different - just looked at my policy and it doesn't cover pre existing for a year and pregnancy is considered to be pre existing. Go figure.I worked in the medical field for a long time and it depends on the health insurance. For example, you will have the most luck with obtaining a new insurance plan without a big hassle through group health insurance. So long as the insurance plan includes maternity coverage, she can be added and have her maternity costs covered due to the federal law known as HIPAA, or the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. On the other hand, if he has an individual health insurance plan, HIPAA is not a factor and he may have to pay extra money in order to have the pregnancy costs covered under the new insurance. Also, some insurances takes several months to add. Anyway, being that she is pregnant she can get health insurance through medicaid with no problem. They have a program to actually help pregnant women get health insurance asap. Unsure if that is available in Indiana.
traceyrco
Sep 22, 2008, 12:22 PM
Your parents can get grandparents rights in most states and that means they get visitation too. So even if you don't get along with mom and dad - they can still have a relationship with your children.
Let's hope this "if" turns out to be negative. Your parents can also in many states have this guy arrested whether you had consensual sex or not - how long have you been having sex with this guy? What's the age of consent in Indiana? I know of a case where the young lady 16 years old married the older man and they still got a conviction on him for underage sex - even with the couple having had a baby. Now he has to register as a sex offender every where he goes.
You have to question a 25 year old guy that wants to date a girl 8 - 9 years younger and still in high school... he could be a predator or one in the making and should you someday have a daughter - she could be at risk down the road. Please listen to your mom - in 3 to 4 years I guarantee you'll be thanking her for saving you a ton of grief.
JudyKayTee
Sep 22, 2008, 12:56 PM
Your parents can get grandparents rights in most states and that means they get visitation too. So even if you don't get along with mom and dad - they can still have a relationship with your children.
Let's hope this "if" turns out to be negative. Your parents can also in many states have this guy arrested whether you had consensual sex or not - how long have you been having sex with this guy? What's the age of consent in Indiana? I know of a case where the young lady 16 years old married the older man and they still got a conviction on him for underage sex - even with the couple having had a baby. Now he has to register as a sex offender every where he goes.
You have to question a 25 year old guy that wants to date a girl 8 - 9 years younger and still in high school.... he could be a predator or one in the making and should you someday have a daughter - she could be at risk down the road. Please listen to your mom - in 3 to 4 years I guarantee you'll be thanking her for saving you a ton of grief.
I don't think grandparents' rights exist in "most States." I researched this once before, State by State. I'll try to find it and post it again. The Supreme Court has ruled that grandparent visitation over the wishes of the parents is unconstitutional as it undermines the ability of the parents to parent to the best of their ability, unimpeded.
Do you have a list of the States that recognize grandparent rights.
stinawords
Sep 22, 2008, 01:54 PM
Indiana does have grandparents rights (not sure how long ago they were implemented). We also have medicaid to cover uninsured pregnancies if the income is low enough (her being so young I have no doubt about her being covered through medicaid).
traceyrco
Sep 22, 2008, 02:16 PM
JudyKayTee - you need to look at what the Supreme court ruled on again. It did not take away the rights of the grandparent's visitation - it was another argument regarding full custody or something.
Medicaid will cover the bills and then turn around and bill the biological father - that's how it is in Texas. The state decided these guy's that run around getting women pregnant and the women knowing they'll get free medical care needed to end. I think they should have to cover the medical expenses. Lord knows getting the child support later can be difficult to impossible.
liz28
Sep 22, 2008, 02:21 PM
She may be eligible to get coverage through teen cap through medicaid. This is designed for pregnant teens. Then once the baby is born they'll both get coverage.
JudyKayTee
Sep 22, 2008, 02:26 PM
Indiana does have grandparents rights (not sure how long ago they were implemented). We also have medicaid to cover uninsured pregnancies if the income is low enough (her being so young I have no doubt about her being covered through medicaid).
Right - in Indiana grandparents rights are awarded if either parent is deceased, the parent's marriage has been terminated or the child was born out of wedlock. Visitation must be shown to be in the best interest of the child. Adoption cuts visitation rights except the adoption is by a close relative.
One of the more progessive States.
liz28
Sep 22, 2008, 02:27 PM
Tracy, I guess they do that in Texas but not where I live. People that are on medicaid must now choose an hmo and if they don't one will be chosen for them. It's funny how even state is different they should've that rule every where.
theshores
Oct 9, 2008, 05:38 PM
yes, he has his own busines works full time && has already told me that even if we are not married while/after im pregnant he wants to put me on his health insurance to pay for the medical bills.
Whew! That's good. So, there's no rush to get married then if he is telling you that he will be there for you no matter what. Have you found out yet? If so, did you tell your parents?