View Full Version : MSNBC drops Olberman and Matthews
tomder55
Sep 8, 2008, 05:25 AM
Well not exactly .They have been removed from the anchor chair and will be retained as commentators. David Gregory will move up to anchor any live political events .
The hardest hit by these maneuvers may be the Barack Obama campaign that had come to rely upon MSNBC for biased over the top lavish coverage.
speechlesstx
Sep 8, 2008, 08:08 AM
I'm sure Chris still gets a thrill up his leg.
tomder55
Sep 8, 2008, 08:21 AM
Clearly MSNBC took a lot of heat over their coverage of the conventions. Olbermann is lucky to have a job after his comments following the 9-11 video at the RNC. Michael Calderone's Blog: Olbermann: Sept. 11 tribute "not appropriate" - Politico.com (http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0908/Olbermann_Sept_11_tribute_not_appropriate.html)
Edit :
I think Matthews could fix that leg tingle by slipping on a pair of Depends.
speechlesstx
Sep 8, 2008, 10:05 AM
Obama still has MTV. Did you catch their illustrious host's comments (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2704186/Russell-Brand-upsets-MTV-audience-with-sex-and-politics.html) at the MTV awards last night?
He said: "As a representative of the global community, a visitor from abroad, I don't want to come across a little bit biased, but could I please ask of you, people of America, please elect Barack Obama, please, on behalf of the world.
"Some people, I think they're called racists, say America is not ready for a black president.
"But I know America to be a forward thinking country because otherwise why would you have let that retard and cowboy fella be president for eight years.
"We were very impressed. We thought it was nice of you to let him have a go, because, in England, he wouldn't be trusted with a pair of scissors."
Brand also took a shot at Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin.
Speaking of Palin's daughter's boyfriend, Levi Johnston, Brand said: "That is the safe sex message of all time. Use a condom or become a Republican!"
inthebox
Sep 8, 2008, 10:38 AM
Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews Booted From MSNBC Political Anchor Desk - America’s Election HQ (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/msnbc-hosts-olbermann-matthews-booted-from-political-night-duties/)
Keith Olbermann may be the “voice” of MSNBC, but network executives have decided to yank the talkmeister off its political anchor desk after the cable channel finished dead last in the Nielsen rankings of all news coverage during the two weeks of political conventions...
In favor of David Gregory, whose White House press corps experience may make him better suited to deliver sober and less opinion-driven assessments of the news.
And what is that all the lefties say about FOX? :rolleyes: ;)
tomder55
Sep 8, 2008, 10:59 AM
I heard Gregory and was actually surprised by his rather fair reporting of the RNC . When he was a White House Correspondent he was a pit bull .
excon
Sep 8, 2008, 01:24 PM
Hello:
I'm sure it was simply because they were sniping at each other on the air. I don't think it has any political significance.
excon
BABRAM
Sep 8, 2008, 03:34 PM
Matthews is the weak link there. Olbermann is really good for his countdown show. I'm not sure who David Gregory is, but I do think ever since Tim Russert passed away that MSNBC needed someone that can control the set and be the glue on the staff.
Skell
Sep 8, 2008, 04:18 PM
I was watching Fox & Friends (its on at about 9pm our time over here) and the hosts of that show were having a field day with this. They thought it was wonderful. They loved yelling it from the roof tops how biased other networks are. They then went onto 4 positive stories about Palin and 2 negative stories about Obama. I don't know how anyone can say any media organisation isn't biased. The hypocrisy was laughable!
tomder55
Sep 9, 2008, 02:37 AM
The difference is that FOX &Friends is a commentary show. The beef with Olbermann and Matthews was that they were taking their commentary into a news hosting format. I watch MSNBC yesterday with David Gregory hosting the news segment and it was fair.
excon
Sep 9, 2008, 06:52 AM
Hello again, tom:
When you take commentators and put them on a news show, it should surprise no one when they comment. Commentators should not deliver the news.
But Fox, of course, still uses its commentator on its convention coverage. - that is unless they can convince us that Bill O'Reilly is a news dude.
Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
excon
tomder55
Sep 9, 2008, 06:58 AM
Actually they have Brit Hume and Shep Smith as anchors. O'Reilly did not anchor any of their coverage. He ran his regular show at the regular time.
speechlesstx
Sep 9, 2008, 10:08 AM
actually they have Brit Hume and Shep Smith as anchors. O'Reilly did not anchor any of their coverage. He ran his regular show at the regular time.
Darned ol' facts. They also had reporter Carl Cameron walking the convention floors.
GaryTee
Oct 15, 2010, 07:16 PM
:mad:Olbermann is an A-Hole and should "WAKE UP TO THE REAL WORLD " ! Don't live in a FANTASY WORLD... OLD MAN ,OLBERMANN "SLEEPING BEAUTY "
spitvenom
Oct 19, 2010, 10:52 AM
Lets see You have the guy who use to do the plays of the week on espn. Then you have a failed shock jock and then you have a failed inside edition host. So I ask right and left why do any of you listen to them?
PS Tom are you having nightmares of Cliff Lee? :p
tomder55
Oct 19, 2010, 11:03 AM
If it were me I'd have the ump examine his hat.
Not to worry... we have our ace AJ going tonight.:rolleyes:
May as well enjoy BB while I can . Even if the Yanks advance I won't be able to watch them because my cable provider is having a pissing match with the provider of FOX sports.
speechlesstx
Oct 19, 2010, 11:09 AM
Our resident Rangers junkie said someone in NY claimed Lee was a witch.
tomder55
Oct 19, 2010, 11:13 AM
This is what I think . He got very good when hitters were forced off steroids .
spitvenom
Oct 19, 2010, 11:15 AM
Tom you are part of that cablevision BS!! Joe Blanton from the Phillies hat has this black smudge on the brim I have always said they should look at that.
tomder55
Oct 19, 2010, 11:36 AM
Yes I couldn't watch the Gnats Sunday,and have not seen a Philly Gnats game yet . Cablevison has a monopoly in my area (unless I went satellite ). I know bar owners who lost a small fortune this weekend . FOX has been A$$holes in this dispute also cutting off internet viewing .
They pulled the same garbage with CBS and decided to cut service during the 1st half hour the Academy Awards before they settled. And of course ,I had satellite for a few years while they quarrelled with Yankees Entertainment (YES) . Then I returned to cablevision when I had a dispute with Direct Tv.
What really bothers me about this one is that the Fox channel is local broadcasting which was free in the good old days when antennas worked .
As it is ,the whole thing is a rip off making me pay for hundreds of channels I don't want .I look forward to the day of ala carte pricing .
Just wait . What is happening here is going to be repeated across the nation. My own little protest is a witholding of my bill. I also emailed my local officials demanding an end to monopoly cable service .
spitvenom
Oct 19, 2010, 11:43 AM
Yeah I had it out with Comcast luckily for me when I did FIOS came to town and I went with them. If you want to watch the Phillies, Sixers (well no one watches the sixers) or Flyers you had to have comcast. Comcast will not let directv or dish carry them. But since FIOS is a cable and not satellite Comcast had to let FIOS carry the comcast sports network. So Ilucked out with that.
I was reading about all the money the bars lost. It is always the little guy getting screwed when Billionaires have a ping match.
speechlesstx
Oct 22, 2010, 07:28 AM
Go Rangers!
OK, speaking of networks dropping people, there's a nice battle brewing over NPR firing Juan Williams for speaking his mind on 'Reilly's show.
“I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.”
NPR chief Vivian Schiller defended his firing by telling the Atlanta Press Club his feelings about Muslims are between him and “his psychiatrist or his publicist.”
She of course made this intolerant, controversial statement while saying controversial opinions shouldn't be stated by NPR reporters or news analysts. Apparently only executives can be bigots. She's mostly just sorry this all had to happen during fund raising week... which is probably why she did it now.
That's OK for Juan though, Fox just gave him a raise. Who knew Fox would be more tolerant than taxpayer supported NPR?
excon
Oct 22, 2010, 07:53 AM
Who knew Fox would be more tolerant than taxpayer supported NPR?Hello again, Steve:
WHO knew that Fox would be more tolerant of a bigot?? Uhhhh, me.
Williams was telling O'Reilly that he was nervous around people who wear "Muslim garb", because they are "identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims". Fearing people because of the color of their skin or the way they dress is bigotry personified. I'm surprised that Williams, a man of color, didn't know that. Moreover, the very idea that those who wear "Muslim garb" are necessarily "identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims" is itself noxious. Does everyone who wears religious attire (a yarmulke or crucifix or Sikh turban) identify themselves "first and foremost" by their religion as opposed to, say, their nationality or individuality or any number of other attributes? The bottom line here is that equating Muslims with terrorism - which is exactly what Williams did - is definitively bigoted, not to mention demonstrably false.
So Fox gave him a raise. Who's surprised?? Not me.
excon
tomder55
Oct 22, 2010, 08:01 AM
If Williams had said he was nervous around white guys with shaved heads ;or around a group of white cops the NPR people would've been the ones giving him a raise.
I think it's time to defund all public money from NPR and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting . It is well past the time where taxpayer subsidized broadcasting is needed or desirable.
speechlesstx
Oct 22, 2010, 09:33 AM
I'll bet there's not another liberal in the country that ever experienced a nervous thought at seeing a Muslim in an airport, huh? Wink, wink...
Fox allowed the guy to speak his mind, unlike his former employer which fired him for a thought crime. You did notice that he warned we need to be careful to distinguish between moderates and fanatics in the same discussion didn't you? Nah, probably not, you still haven't noticed that about me.
Tom, if he had said seeing a "teabagger" made him nervous he would've certainly been given a raise... maybe even a Pultizer.
speechlesstx
Jan 6, 2011, 03:36 PM
Ellen Weiss, NPR Executive, Resigns Over Handling Of Juan Williams Firing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/06/ellen-weiss-npr-executive-resigns-juan-williams_n_805352.html)
CEO Vivian Schiller was stripped of her bonus for 2010 as well, but still no apparent outrage on the left over his being fired for a thought crime.
tomder55
Jan 6, 2011, 04:02 PM
Meanwhile Williams is doing quite well as a balanced voice at a network that allows debate.
excon
Jan 22, 2011, 11:36 AM
well not exactly .Hello again, tom:
Yup, exactly... Now, I don't know if he quit, or was fired, or whether Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck finally got him thrown off the air... but he's gone. Now, the worst part of my day, is not knowing whose the worst.
Did right wing Comcast have anything to do with it?
excon
tomder55
Jan 22, 2011, 01:35 PM
He lost his cover when Immelt was named to the Obama economic team (talk about crony capitalism) .
Interesting week for GE .
GE 's Jeff Immelt was named to replace Paul Volcker on the President's Economic Advisory panel.
GE also got approval to sell off NBC to Comcast eariler this week .
GE and China announce $4 Billion in business deals . According the IBD ,GE will share with the Chinese it's most sophisticated airplane electronics, including technology from Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, with state-owned Aviation Industry Corp. of China, or Avic.
My guess is that is the final piece of the puzzle the Chinese need to perfect their J-20 5th generation stealth fighter . (but that's a subject for another thred . I'd love to hear Gates say again that the shutting down of the F-22 Raptor in favor of the non-stealth F-35 is justified because China isn't close to a 5th generation fighter . )
Do you think Olbermann will be Robert Gibbs replacement ala Tony Snow ?
By the way did you see the ratings ?
THURS. JAN. 20, 2011
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,918,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,079,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,940,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,786,000
FOXNEWS BECK 1,780,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,460,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,106,000
CNN PIERS 1,025,000
MSNBC MADDOW 976,000
MSNBC O'DONNELL 855,000
MSNBC SCHULTZ 760,000
CNN COOPER 740,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 700,000
I'd hate to see Matthews go . His is the only show on MSNBC I watch.
excon
Jan 22, 2011, 01:46 PM
Do you think Olbermann will be Robert Gibbs replacement ala Tony Snow ?
btw did you see the ratings ? Hello again, tom:
Nahhh. He's not a mouthpiece...
Sure I've seen the ratings. Nobody suggested that there isn't an audience for right wing drivel...
excon
tomder55
Jan 22, 2011, 01:53 PM
Maybe Olbe can take Elliot Spitzer's place on CNN with pseudo-conservative Katheen Parker.
excon
Jan 22, 2011, 01:59 PM
Hello again, tom:
Could be. I hear Spitzer is running for president..
excon
tomder55
Jan 22, 2011, 02:12 PM
There's credibilty in Comcast being less lib than Immelt and the GE crowd . Phil Griffin is also a casualty of this switch .
This is an interesting story . I'm sure more will be revealed in the coming days. Replacing him with Lawrence O’Donnell is not a shift to the right in my book.
Drudge is reporting that Olby threatened to end his contract with MSNBC more than once over money issues.
speechlesstx
Jan 24, 2011, 07:53 AM
or whether Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck finally got him thrown off the air...
You have the wrong side of the aisle trying to silence people (http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2011/01/19/the_hate_speech_inquisition).
excon
Jan 24, 2011, 08:00 AM
Hello again, Steve:
I wondered whose right wing knee would jerk this time... It was yours...
I don't know WHY we can't get along... We speak the same language... Or at least I THINK we do... Here's what the left said in PLAIN ENGLISH. "Rush, tone it down". In his right wing brain, that means the left wants to SILENCE him. The left doesn't want to silence ANYBODY... I'M the left, and if you shut up, I'd have NUTHIN!!
However, I have no doubt that you'll find some obscure lefty who wants to do that, but it's not going to be convincing...
excon
tomder55
Jan 24, 2011, 08:20 AM
Rep. Louise Slaughter ,Rep. Ed Markey ,and Rep James Clyburn are not some obscue lefties . They are law makers who want to use Federal law to silence right wing talk radio.
Clyburn ,according to the article suggested that there needs to be a "rethink parameters on free speech."
That doesn't make you just a little nervous ?
speechlesstx
Jan 24, 2011, 08:29 AM
Funny, but you still have it wrong. Just like it wasn't Beck and O'Reilly trying to get Olbermann thrown off the air it wasn't my knee isn't jerking. I'm pointed out whose knees are jerking. Rep. Louise Slaughter, Rep. Ed Markey and Rep James Clyburn aren't obscure lefties, they're lawmakers.
I'm with you, let 'em all talk. The more Olby, Maddow Schultz the better.
excon
Jan 24, 2011, 08:36 AM
That doesn't make you just a little nervous ?Hello again, tom:
ALL lawmakers make me nervous.
Irrespective, of those obscure lawmakers (ok, I won't call them obscure - I'll call them loony), who don't understand the Constitution, I submit that silencing right wing radio is NOT a mainstream left wing position, and it's not something you need fret about.
Yes, it pisses them off when the limp one says all the racist bull sh!t he says, and they get all government on us, but rest assured, he's going to be able to spew his swill for as long as he wants to. Racism ISN'T illegal. Hypocrisy isn't illegal. Lying isn't illegal. He's allowed to be a drug addict who got caught and pleaded for his OWN mercy, all the while calling for draconian sentences for his fellow drug addicts.. Nope. It's not illegal. It's just despicable, and he is allowed to be as despicable as he wants.
excon