Will Obama or McCain be a good president when it comes to foreign relations and the economic system

Obama! Both on foreign relations and economy. It's called communication and diplomacy, something that the stubborn and ignorant rarely comprehend. That being said, if a person likes more of the same slow sluggish economy of trickle down economics and poorly ran tactics of wars that risk generations of our young men and women unnecessarily... by all means vote McSame.

Last night Obama gave the most appropriate speech with the best presentation, that I've ever heard from a presidential candidate accepting nomination. He topped Reagan. Obama's running an educated campaign. It was blatantly obvious for those paying attention to current events and are unbiased, that the US doesn't need nor should want John McCain (Bush crony) anywhere near the White House after the upcoming election.

YouTube - Barack Obama Acceptance Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQGsP8mnHsg)

All the educated Republicans should be jumping ship about right now. John McCain is the Republican version of Walter Mondale, as is Sarah Palin is now their Geraldine Ferraro. I saw on CNN that the reaction is not favorable for McCain's VP pick. It's already having a backlash among the far majority of the once ardent Hillary Democrats and even some moderate Republican women. Apparently John McCain has insulted all women across America with his last minute desperate measure to expose his skirt VP selection. John McCain is not fit to serve burgers at the local Sonic, with or without skates.

Prior to becoming Governor of Alaska, Palin was the mayor of a town of less than nine thousand people. People need to realize the total population of the State of Alaska is about the size of one mid size city, for example Austin (Texas). Meaning Palin actually has no experience or understanding of the complexity of large inner city issues, such as hard drugs trafficking and gang crime. John McCain has only met Palin once before. Once! This is the single most important decision a presidential candidate can make and the seventy-two year old John McCain blew it on a salmon fishing caribou herder that was chairman down at the local Moose lodge.

Obama!

All the educated Republicans should be jumping ship about right now. John McCain is the Republican version of Walter Mondale, as is Sarah Palin is now their Geraldine Ferraro. I saw on CNN that the reaction is not favorable for his pick. It's already having a backlash among the far majority of the once ardent Hillary Democrats and even some moderate Republican women. Apparently John McCain has insulted all women across America with his last minute desperate measure to expose his skirt VP selection. John McCain is not fit to serve burgers at the local Sonic, with or without skates.

Prior to becoming Governor of Alaska, Palin was the mayor of a town of less than nine thousand people. People need to realize the total population of the State of Alaska is about the size of one mid size city, for example Austin (Texas). Meaning Palin actually has no experience or understanding of the complexity of large inner city issues, such as hard drugs trafficking and gang crime. John McCain has only met Palin once before. Once! This is the single most important decision a presidential candidate can make and the seventy-two year old John McCain blew it on a salmon fishing caribou herder that was chairman down at the local Moose lodge.

Cmon' BABRAM, is that the best you got, cut and past from another answer?

Obama would be great for foreign relations as long as he pleases the Europeans with his radical liberal one world order plans.

Obama will destroy the economy, with his huge plans to redistribute the wealth in the US.

Cmon' BABRAM, is that the best you got, cut and past from another answer?..

You're ignorance is making my point on why people should not vote for John McCain. If you disagree with my words, then show me. I'll debate you and then you'll run for the hills as usual. Better yet, DonaldM_23 deserves more than your poor weak flaming retorts. BTW I won't sue myself for plagiarism. These are my words from yesterday and today, and they still ring true!


Obama would be great for foreign relations as long as he pleases the Europeans with his radical liberal one world order plans..

What? How weird! You apparently have a one trick pony show with this one world cult view. What church keeps feeding you this stuff? I don't even think that makes sense to ardent learned Christians. Nothing personal, but as a Jew I'm intrigued and I'd really like to have the opportunity to dissect your preachers taught doctrine by comparison of Torah. Do you have a link to your religious organization that I can review. I'd really like to know where they come up with that notion.


Obama will destroy the economy, with his huge plans to redistribute the wealth in the US.

Wake up. You sound like a spoiled elitist brat. The economy has already suffered under your twice elected President Bush. Too bad for you, "progunr." You're response was very uneducated. Vote smart. Vote Obama! ;)

McCain.

McCain.

I second that!!

No explanation necessary!!

Obama.

Obama.

Obama can have all the fans he wants in Canada :D :p

No explanation necessary!!!


None expected. After eight years of Dubya, I sure wouldn't pay you seventy-five cents to hear it even if you had a half reasonable explanation.

Obama can have all the fans he wants in Canada :D :p


Toronto is going to have a population swell of new citizens, if we continue to blindly elect Republican presidents. Americans are so worried about illegal aliens from Mexico... well I got news for you! Canada might end up being the country building a fence to keep the US out. :)

I'll rent a truck and help them move :)

Why waste your time and effort. McCain has the next hundred years planned. He'd get bored after Iraq and invade Canada. :eek:

I'll rent a truck and help them move :)

I'm still with you Rick!!

I'm still with you Rick!!!

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If you believe government, by taxing its citizens more and spending more on entitlements, is the solution to all that ails us --
Obama.

If you think less government [ less taxes, less spending ] is better - McCain

Obama for sure. Everything I've read about McCain makes me scared if he were to become president

One has been involved in matters related to foreign policy either working for the Navy as liaison to the US Senate or in the US Senate holding positions in key foereign policy matters since 1977... McCain

The other was a "comminity organizer" whatever that is ;who's single claim to foreign policy before entering the US Senate in 2006 was making an obscure speech opposing the war in Iraq. In the US Senate he was given the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommitee on European Affairs(which has some oversight on NATO). But he has been campaigning for the Presidency since he entered the US Senate ;only staying in the building long enough to find his office and the Mens Room. He has held no committee hearings at all about NATOs role in Afghanistan even though he claims to want to expand their role and ours in the fight.Joe Biden when he was running against Obama in the primaries pointed out that Obama had borrowed some of Biden's ideas about the Afghan conflict and had been late to arrive at those positions. Biden said that not only had Obama held no hearings in his own subcommitee ;but that Obama had rarely attended even the full Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings. NATO has not lived up to it's commitments in Afghanistan but Obama continues to blame President Bush .

There is no question in my mind that McCain would be heads and shoulders above Obama in areas of foreign relations.

Neither of them impress me much in their knowledge of the economy .However I have seen Obama's advisers in action and prefer the advice McCain is getting from his economic team.Obama gave us a laundry list of new programs he would initiate during his acceptance speech . Then he promised a massive tax cut and claimed he would pay for his programs by imposing punitive taxes on businesses . That is a recipe for economic disaster.

Hello:

One is 72 and is a cancer survivor. He chose as his running mate, a young woman who has NO experience.

Vote for the one who has a chance at surviving his first term without leaving us with a rookie at the helm of the most powerful country in the world. Actually, I think it was reallly stupid for him to pick her.

excon

Hello:

One is 72 and is a cancer survivor. He chose as his running mate, a young woman who has NO experience.

Vote for the one who has a chance at surviving his first term without leaving us with a rookie at the helm of the most powerful country in the world. Actually, I think it was reallly stupid for him to pick her.

excon

Just to irritate you a mite, have you considered the possibility that down the road you could be saying "president Palin"? It is not inconceivable.
Not to worry, though, all presidents have councillors who generally keep them from making too many blunders.

Hello:

One is 72 and is a cancer survivor. He chose as his running mate, a young woman who has NO experience.

Vote for the one who has a chance at surviving his first term without leaving us with a rookie at the helm of the most powerful country in the world. Actually, I think it was reallly stupid for him to pick her.

excon

And by stating that SHE has NO Experience, where does that leave NObama?

McCain bores me!. OBAMA all the way

[QUOTE=BABRAM] Wake up. You sound like a spoiled elitist brat. The economy has already suffered under your twice elected President Bush. Too bad for you, "progunr." You're response was very uneducated. Vote smart. Vote Obama![Quote]

Your man NObama is the elitist, everyone knows that.

Are you talking about the economy that GREW by 3.3% in the second quarter of THIS YEAR?

My God, that is terrible isn't it?

Your gloom and doom NObama won't mention that, will he.

He won't mention that while he promised to eliminate the capital gains tax on small businesses, that the truth is, small businesses don't pay capital gains tax, they pay income tax, which he WILL RAISE. But it sure sounded good, didn't it?

He continues to lie, saying that McCain sides with GW over 90% of the time, but the facts prove that to be an outright lie as well.

As to my response, at least I didn't just copy my answer from another question, and paste it here, like your intelligent example.

Enjoy the holiday weekend.

He continues to lie, saying that McCain sides with GW over 90% of the time, but the facts prove that to be an outright lie as well.
"CQ's Presidential Support studies try to determine how often a legislator votes in line with the President's position:
CQ tries to determine what the president personally, as distinct from other administration officials, does and does not want in the way of legislative action. This is done by analyzing his messages to Congress, news conference remarks and other public statements and documents.
So, these studies only track votes when the President has an explicit, stated opinion on a bill. According to CQ, Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007"
FactCheck.org: Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html)

Dear prog,
Give it up already.

Dear prog,
Give it up already.

You left out the part that said this number refers to "recently" but that the percentage is much less in earlier years.

And you forgot to mention the part that said that NObama voted WITH Bush 49% of the time.

Isn't that a lot for a Democrat, as compared to Republican voting with a Republican?

My view-Obama is an excellent leader.He is talented.Obama would be great for foreign relations... but the name of the next president is JOHN McCAIN. Dot!

I'll rent a truck and help them move :)
Haha-I will give you two trucks more.And a bus,too.Let's make them Queen Elizabeth's subjects.Great!! :)

Sure, as long as they are good people.

Sure, as long as they are good people.
Who are good people... McCain and Obama?:) :) :)

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The next president!11709

NeedKarma,THANK YOU!! I melt at the sight of these great men-the current and the next American presidents!
Do you have high resolution of this photo? I love to have it as my desktop wallpaper!

I can smell the sarcasm from here. I wasn't aware you were a woman.

I can smell the sarcasm from here. I wasn't aware you were a woman.
Hahaha-BTW our president and me are namesakes:)

Your man NObama is the elitist, everyone knows that.

Are you talking about the economy that GREW by 3.3% in the second quarter of THIS YEAR?

My God, that is terrible isn't it?


Wake up! The housing market slowed the economy down, amongst other things under Dubya, and that three percent looks almost good to the ignorant. The chart runs up and down like a roller coaster BBC NEWS | Business | US economy at a glance (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7217227.stm) But wait! The inflation rate was over four percent and that chart is steady rising! Current Inflation (http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/CurrentInflation.asp)





Your gloom and doom NObama won't mention that, will he.

He mentioned lost jobs, economic slow growth, and people sacrificing a day of work a week just to keep others employed. English! Do you speak it? Do you understand it?


He won't mention that while he promised to eliminate the capital gains tax on small businesses, that the truth is, small businesses don't pay capital gains tax, they pay income tax, which he WILL RAISE. But it sure sounded good, didn't it?

Geezers snappy pants! I had forgotten that you actually believe any distributed lie that hits your email or proposed by a blogger political page.

snopes.com: Proposed Tax Changes (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/taxes.asp)

Now for the facts about Obama's small business plan and taxation:

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/SmallBusinessFINAL.pdf

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Tax_Plan_Facts_FINAL.pdf




He continues to lie, saying that McCain sides with GW over 90% of the time, but the facts prove that to be an outright lie as well.


And as usual "your facts" are not available, but mine are. I know who the liar is here and it's not Barack Obama.

Here are the facts:

Think Progress » McCain voted with Bush 100 percent of the time in 2008. (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/28/mccain-voted-with-bush-100-percent-of-the-time-in-2008/)

John McCain Revealed : McCain And Bush (http://www.afl-cio.org/issues/politics/mccain_bush.cfm)

Newsvine - McCain Voted with Bush 95% of the Time in 2007 (http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/08/1552947-mccain-voted-with-bush-95-of-the-time-in-2007)

FactCheck.org: Is it true that even though John McCain calls himself a Republican, he has sided more with the Dems than with the Repubs? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_that_even_though_john.html)


As to my response, at least I didn't just copy my answer from another question, and paste it here, like your intelligent example.


Well thank you. I thought my example was intelligent as well. My answers are generally thorough enough that I can apply them to several redundant questions. Most sites have a catalog of answers that can be accessed and used by their experts, but this one doesn't (only rated), so I make my own going back in threads. I won't sue myself for plagiarism by using my own words. I know your jealous, perhaps just ignorant, but might could you do us all a favor and consider growing up? Did you notice that the name of this site is "Ask Me Help Desk"?? Now there's a good reason for that! We should be here to help others and learn. After you start reading a book you would not tear out each page after it was read, would you?? No, you wouldn't. You may have to reference something in that book, so it's saved complete in the home library.



Enjoy the holiday weekend.


In all honesty I find you to be have a disingenuous type personality. Try not to get yourself hurt this weekend.

Hahaha-BTW our president and me are namesakes:)Obviously not the Venkov part. :D

Haha-I will give you two trucks more.And a bus,too.Let's make them Queen Elizabeth's subjects.Great!!!!!!!!:)

It is funny come to think about it. Flexing all those big cyber muscles and the he-man patriotic tongue in cheek talk... "I'll rent a truck and help them move" and "let's make them." :rolleyes: In the USA you show up in the hood and they'd take your two trucks (and your bus), and then send you and Rick hitchhiking back to neckville. Two days later the police call you to say they found all the vehicles stripped down on blocks, abandoned in East LA. :D

Obviously not the Venkov part. :D
Correct-the name is GEORGE,but the name of the next president is JOHN.:eek:


It is funny come to think about it. Flexing all those big cyber muscles and the he-man patriotic tongue in cheek talk..."I'll rent a truck and help them move" and "let's make them." :rolleyes: In the USA you show up in the hood and they'd take your two trucks (and your bus), and then send you and Rick hitchhiking back to neckville. Two days later the police call you to say they found all the vehicles stripped down on blocks, abandoned in East LA. :D
In your dreams... :)

Will Obama or McCain be a good president when it comes to foreign relations and the economic system
OK-let me think... I can see two scenarios here:
1 If NObama wins he will increase taxes,he will print $10,000,000,000,000 more, $ will lose its power forever,and the Canadians/including NeedKarma/ will go to the USA and buy the White House with their mighty Canadian Dollar.:eek: :eek: :eek:
2If McCain wins,he will capture Canada,and the Canadians/including NeedKarma/ will not be obligated to sing"God save our precious Queen...":)

Obama made a lot of half truths,outright lies and distortions in his acceptance address. I guess it is probably true that McCain voted 95% of the time with President Bush but it is undeniable that on many issues there is serious disagreement between them. I will post them even though some of them are issues I have against McCain


McCain fought for campaign finance reform — McCain-Feingold — that Bush resisted and ultimately signed because he had no choice.
McCain led the battle to restrict interrogation techniques of terror suspects .
McCain went with Joe Lieberman on a tough measure to curb climate change,
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts when they passed.
McCain urged the Iraq surge, a posture Bush rejected for years before conceding its wisdom.
McCain favors FDA regulation of tobacco and sponsored legislation to that effect, a position all but a handful of Republican senators oppose.
McCain's energy bill, also with Lieberman, is a virtual blueprint for energy independence and development of alternate sources.
After the Enron scandal, McCain introduced sweeping reforms in corporate governance and legislation to guarantee pensions and prohibit golden parachutes for executives. Bush opposed McCain's changes and the watered-down Sarbanes-Oxley bill eventuated.
McCain has been harshly critical of congressional overspending, particularly of budgetary earmarks, a position Bush only lately adopted (after the Democrats took over Congress).One of the biggest distortion in the percentage is that most Senate votes are unanimous .So by Obama's logic the Democrats vote the majority of the time with the President also.

If NObama wins he will increase taxes,he will print $10,000,000,000,000 more, $ will lose its power forever,Hello GV:

I don't know what you been smokin, but pass it over here... It appears that your short term memory is faulty. That happens when I smoke that stuff too.

The last time we had a surplus was when a DEMOCRAT ran things. The last time we had deficit was when a REPUBLICAN ran things. HE printed zillions of $$$'s and HE put the dollar into a nosedive. HE never vetoed a spending bill until the DEMOCRATS took over congress.

By the way, your REPUBLICAN said he doesn't know anything about the economy, and his adviser said we're a nation of whiners... THOSE are the people you want running things?? How can your side run the country when you can't figure out that crap??

excon

McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts when they passed.Hello tom:

So, he was AGAINST 'em before he was FOR 'em, huh?? Bwa ha ha ha ha. There's nothing left to say.

excon

In your dreams...:)

I can take you places that will make dreams come true! ;)

I can take you places that will make dreams come true! ;)
Where?? In Canada?? :)

I just wanted to add that McCain sucks.

I just wanted to add that McCain sucks.

I love it when you libs demonstrate your high level of intelligence!

I actually do have a high level of intelligence but it's not worth it to rewrite what's already been posted.

Hello prog:

Most people don't have a grasp of the issues like you and I do. In fact, most people vote based on a visceral rather than an intellectual basis.

She doesn't have to know WHY McCain sucks. She just has to know that he does. And, she's right. Her vote counts as much as your very well informed vote does.

By the way, certainly, many Evangelical Christians don't know squat except that Sarah Palin is one of them. That's good enough for them. We don't put them down for it, either, because we're better than you.

excon

Hello prog:

Most people don't have a grasp of the issues like you and I do. In fact, most people vote based on a visceral rather than an intellectual basis.

She doesn't have to know WHY McCain sucks. She just has to know that he does. And, she's right. Her vote counts as much as your very well informed vote does.

By the way, certainly, many Evangelical Christians don't know squat except that Sarah Palin is one of them. That's good enough for them. We don't put them down for it, either, because we're better than you.

excon


Right on!

But I do know why McCain sucks. I've been keeping up with the politics.

Hello prog: We don't put them down for it, either, because we're better than you.

excon

In your own mind, I'm sure that is a true statement.

At least, if I'm going to say someone sucks, I'm able to convey, in my own thoughts and words, why I believe that person sucks.

As long as it makes you happy, to feel that you are better than me, or anyone for that matter, more power to you!

Do what makes you happy, that's my motto for the rest of my time on this planet.

By the way, certainly, many Evangelical Christians don't know squat except that Sarah Palin is one of them. That's good enough for them. We don't put them down for it, either, because we're better than you.

Excon


She is pro - life and lives it.

She is NRA and can handle a gun

She is against corruption and look at her record in Alaska.


If she did not walk the walk, that would not be acceptable.



Of course those opposed to her only know that they do not believe as she does, and that is all that is needed to attack her personally.



Case in point below




Clinton aides: Palin treatment sexist - John F. Harris and Beth Frerking - Politico.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13129.html)


A spokeswoman for the National Organization for Women, noting Palin’s opposition to abortion rights and support of other parts of the social conservative agenda, told Politico, “She's more a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues. Very disappointing."

Hello again, in:

Yeah, politics is an ugly game. However, I refuse to be painted with such a broad brush. I don't attack her because of what she believes. I attack her because, like any politician, she shades the truth.

Case in point; She did NOT sell the jet on E-Bay, and I heard her say she did. When it sold, she did NOT make a profit on it, and I heard her say she did. She DID support the bridge to nowhere before she DIDN'T, and I clearly heard her say she DIDN'T.

I suspect you'll suggest that these things aren't really very important. But, they are.

There'll be more to come. The press is vetting her like McCain should have. Maybe another reason NOT to vote for him.

excon

Hello again, in:

Yeah, politics is an ugly game. However, I refuse to be painted with such a broad brush. I don't attack her because of what she believes. I attack her because, like any politician, she shades the truth.

Case in point; She did NOT sell the jet on E-Bay, and I heard her say she did. When it sold, she did NOT make a profit on it, and I heard her say she did. She DID support the bridge to nowhere before she DIDN'T, and I clearly heard her say she DIDN'T.

I suspect you'll suggest that these things aren't really very important. But, they are.

There'll be more to come. The press is vetting her like McCain should have. Maybe another reason NOT to vote for him.

excon


I couldn't agree more.

GET OVER IT there is no way in hell MC cain is going to win I know that you know that we all know that!. ill bet everything on that I have a gut feeling about things same with knowing there was no way in hell bush was going to lose but most people knew that and not that I agree with that either people can say what they want the only problem that Obama had in this campaign was Hilary and he beat her which I knew! But was still a challenge and I can tell all of you right now OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.. AND TAKE THAT TO THE BANK I don't even know why people mention the other guy.. whats his name again?

It is clear that another 8 year of McCain, this country will be in serious trouble. It's a shame how our econmic suplus has gone south since Clinton left office. To all the republicans the only way you will benefit is by the tax breaks. Remember the issues, remember the war Mr. Bush put us in. Everyone is attacking obama regarding experience, I think our next president need a vision. It's a shame where foreign countries are bailing out large corporation due to a ailing econmic system that is crumpling. I personally think Obama would be welcome and open by other countries in regards to our foreign policies. McCain and Palin sounds very scary

As I recall:

Sarah never said the plane sold on EBAY, she said "I Put it on ebay" which is true...

Sarah never said she made a profit on it. We all know Murkowskis folley was sold at a loss. Not Sarahs fault Murkowskis mess was expensive to solve.

Hello again, AK:

You're right, I misspoke. She didn't say she made a profit on it - John McCain said that. Makes it kind of worse, doesn't it?

excon

In order to see what a candidate will do, we can do two things. We can look at their records to see what they have done, and we can look at what they have said on the issues.

In Obama's case, we can't look at what he's done because he hasn't done anything. But we can look at what he has said.

On the economy:

Obama said that the best way to solve the problem of high energy costs is to inflate your tires and get your car tuned up. See it here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0&eurl=http://riggword.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/obama-inflate-your-tires-america/)

McCain is in favor of drilling for oil in the USA territories to increase supplies and decrease prices, as well as creating energy independence. He also favors alternative fuels, efficiency standards for cars and a capitalistic approach to the energy markets. See it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OagC3NCiMug).

Which of these makes the most sense to you?


On foreign policy:
When Russia invaded Georgia, Obama said: “I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.”

(This is just a fancy way of saying "Can't we all just get along? Can't we just be friends?")

By contrast, McCain said: "[T]he news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences of Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave. The government of Georgia has called for a ceasefire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course that it has chosen. I repeat, the government of Georgia has called for a ceasefire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The United States should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council and to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course that it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to asses Georgia's security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia."

(This basically means that the US should use it's political and economic pressure, and the European community should join in, in order to pressure the Russians to back off. If Russia refuses to do so, they will be marginalized from the rest of the world and will face economic and political consequences.)

Which of these seems to be a more competent response to you?

Elliot

Well I don't think that McCain saying she sold it on Ebay makes it worse... he is not after all the one who had to sell it...

Is that kind of like Obama saying "my muslim faith"... but oops he didn't mean it?

She did sell the plane on e-bay. It was purchased for $2.7 million, and she sold it on e-bay for $2.1 million. All she wanted to do was recoup at least part of what the prior governor misspent. She wasn't looking for a profit and she didn't make one.

Frankly, I think it would be a good idea for the government to sell surpluss or outdated stuff to the public. It's a great way to recoup much of the capital expenditure, which can then be reused for new capital expenditures. Why don't they do that? If people want it, and the government doesn't need it anymore, why not sell it. That way WE don't have to foot as much of the bill as we currently do.

Elliot

Hello again, El:

In fact, inflating your tires is a GOOD idea. It DOES save money and energy - something like $3 BILLION a year. I don't know. $3 billion sounds like a lot when it's FREE. McCain made fun of it, like you're doing here. But, of course, the Automobile Manufacturers Association agrees with Obama, as does the AAA and many many others. Interestingly enough, so does NASCAR - that bastion of red neckedness.

However, that isn't the total of his plan. You misquote Obama. Don't surprise me none. When you don't have an argument, fib. O'Reilly and you do it will.

Really, Obama supports nuclear energy. Did you forget that? Or doesn't it fit?

Next, given that Georgia precipitated the attack, Obama's response was the more reasonable. My initial response was to get bad with the Ruskies, too. I've got a temper. But, it's a good thing I'm not running things, nor McCain either. Fortunately, cooler heads, like Obamas prevailed. Because after it was sorted out, we find that the Georgians DID provoke the Ruskies, No?

I suspect you'll ignore that fact too, cause it don't fit either.

excon

On foreign policy:
When Russia invaded Georgia, Obama said: “I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.”

(This is just a fancy way of saying "Can't we all just get along? Can't we just be friends?")

By contrast, McCain said: "[T]he news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences of Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave. The government of Georgia has called for a ceasefire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course that it has chosen. I repeat, the government of Georgia has called for a ceasefire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The United States should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council and to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course that it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to asses Georgia's security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia."

(This basically means that the US should use it's political and economic pressure, and the European community should join in, in order to pressure the Russians to back off. If Russia refuses to do so, they will be marginalized from the rest of the world and will face economic and political consequences.)

Which of these seems to be a more competent response to you?

Elliot

Its no surprise you liked old maverick John "shoot from the replaced hip" McCain's response. Calmer folk including the rest of the world thought Obama's response was what they liked.