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Sunnywootxp
Aug 14, 2008, 05:31 PM
Hi Everyone

Well usually when it start raining or thunderstorm my DSL Internet start slowing down or freezes sometimes. So I am thinking is the line problem is there a way to improve it. Or does all internet from Dial-up to DSL slows down whens raining, not sure about T1 but I doubt they don't since they are the most elite internet :cool: .

Scleros
Aug 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
Or does all internet from Dial-up to DSL slows down whens raining, not sure about T1 but i doubt they don't since they are the most elite internet
No. Wireless systems (satellite) can experience rain fade. Wired systems don't unless water is getting into nooks and crannies it isn't supposed to.

jadeleonjr
Aug 14, 2008, 08:01 PM
Partly True. It depends where you lines are.

jadeleonjr
Aug 14, 2008, 08:08 PM
The choppy service during a rain storm usually comes from the wind. The lines that are above ground succomb to the sway of the top of the "telephone" poles. This can cause the lines to NOT "give" or not be as elastic. If the winds are very strong, the lines can, of course, be snapped due to being stretched between the "telephone" poles. There is nothing that you can do to improve the connection because you can only control your internal wires and the incoming device on you house.

There is a difference between the elasticity of fiber optics vs. copper as well. Another item to keep in mind is that many telephone companies will use "repeaters" which re-streghthen the copper signals over long runs until it gets to fiber.

If you live in a community (usually new ones) where the lines are underground, you will probably experience faster times ironically. That is because other neighborhoods with line above ground may be out of service due to wind. Which may reduce latency. This is rare because service providers are pretty much guranteeing minimum bandwidths to consumers.

I hope this helps.

Joey

KISS
Aug 14, 2008, 08:56 PM
If regular conversations are also bad then you may have moisture problem somewhere along the path. Spider webs and water do interesting things.
It can usually be fixed.

It wouldn't hurt to have a good DSL installation which includes:
1. Change the jumper thing in the NID to a test port with no jumper.
2. Have the 1/2 ringer removed in the NID
3. Use a splitter rather than filters.

nickeknew
Aug 14, 2008, 09:01 PM
Only wireless connections will weaken

Sunnywootxp
Aug 14, 2008, 10:21 PM
If regular conversations are also bad then you may have moisture problem somewhere along the path. Spider webs and water do interesting things.
It can usually be fixed.

It wouldn't hurt to have a good DSL installation which includes:
1. Change the jumper thing in the NID to a test port with no jumper.
2. Have the 1/2 ringer removed in the NID
3. Use a splitter rather than filters.

Sorry I am not a electronics expert, can you explain these in more detail. And what is NID?

Thanks

Sunnywootxp
Aug 14, 2008, 10:23 PM
The choppy service during a rain storm usually comes from the wind. The lines that are above ground succomb to the sway of the top of the "telephone" poles. This can cause the lines to NOT "give" or not be as elastic. If the winds are very strong, the lines can, of course, be snapped due to being stretched between the "telephone" poles. There is nothing that you can do to improve the connection because you can only control your internal wires and the incoming device on you house.

There is a difference between the elasticity of fiber optics vs. copper as well. Another item to keep in mind is that many telephone companies will use "repeaters" which re-streghthen the copper signals over long runs until it gets to fiber.

If you live in a community (usually new ones) where the lines are underground, you will probably experience faster times ironically. That is because other neighborhoods with line above ground may be out of service due to wind. Which may reduce latency. This is rare because service providers are pretty much guranteeing minimum bandwidths to consumers.

I hope this helps.

Joey

They will probably cost more... I am thinking about switching to cable see if that works better.

KISS
Aug 15, 2008, 07:04 AM
NID = Network Interface Device. It's the phone company'd demarkation point.
It's where there lines connect to your insiide wiring. It's usually mounted on te outside of a house for single dwellings.

The box has a telco side and a consumer side. The telco side connects to their drop and houses the surge protectors.

The customer side usually consists of a plug in module for each line. That plug in module contains some electronics so that the telco can do some line testing. Those electronics interfere with DSL. Also in this box is a sort jumper that isolates your inside wiring from the telco's wiring. This allows you to remove the jumper and plug in a phone to see if it works before calling for service.

Here is where you connect your inside lines to red and green screws on the modules.

It has been found that the jumper thing has reliability problems and there is a test jack without a jumper available as well as without electronics.

A DSL splitter can be a module in this NID. A splitter attaches to the red/green screws on the test jack. Those are DSL. The splitter provides another set of red/green screws which are the telco lines.

Now, you have two pair that enter the house from a single line. The DSL modem, then becomes the ONLY thing on the DSL port. The telephones with all it's old crappy wirimg from yester year won't affect the DSL service.

No filters are then used on the phones in the house. When filters are used the number of filters are limited to 5.

I can locate a picture that I posted on this forum if you would like me to.

This is the right way to install DSL.

Inside is another story.

KISS
Aug 15, 2008, 07:09 AM
See this thread:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/landline-phones/nid-box-wiring-145653.html